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[22] God bless football, Fuentes.
[23] God bless footballs to guts.
[24] Thank you, Mike Fuentes.
[25] We are just under 30 days away from the start of the NFL season.
[26] Very exciting.
[27] College football is right around the corner.
[28] Football is back, Billy.
[29] You excited?
[30] I am excited.
[31] There's a lot going on here.
[32] Yes.
[33] We're about to, the band is about to be back together.
[34] Yes.
[35] Well, what do you mean my band?
[36] Like Mojo and the crew and Chris Sims and Mike Golick?
[37] I mean, yeah, I meant like.
[38] Sims and Golick and we have a call with Mojo later.
[39] We have a call with Mojo later today.
[40] Not to, you know, put the cart before the horse here, but the original band may be back together.
[41] I have to figure out what we do with the secondary band.
[42] But there's things to be sorted out still also, and this is, I have a segment.
[43] I like to play.
[44] Really?
[45] Now, if you'd like to, we just get to.
[46] Already.
[47] Really quick.
[48] Just a quick little segment.
[49] Before you get to it, Dwight Franey, who was just enshrined, enshrined, excuse me, into pro football's Hall of Fame is going to join us in just a little bit.
[50] Looking forward to that.
[51] We are happy about that.
[52] That is the second guy since we started doing this show, who is a fairly regular contributor to the show.
[53] Tony Bisselli, Dwight, the second guy to make it into the Hall of Fame.
[54] What?
[55] Why are you giving me that look?
[56] I think Dwight's been on Gablo's football one time.
[57] He's been on like four times, it feels like.
[58] A few times.
[59] A few times.
[60] It's been a few times, Billy.
[61] It's been a few times.
[62] More than once.
[63] Maybe two.
[64] Yes.
[65] More than once.
[66] I don't for a fact more than once.
[67] I think this is like the whole, like suponity god bless football like mesh thing where we get where things end up right well anyways uh okay so i have a story of the week but that's not what i want to get to right now all right this is a segment i like to call on -air production meeting wow yeah okay there's an on -air production slash planning meeting on -air prod meeting exactly right okay so this is the situation it's something that we've done in the past it's something that has been well received and is somewhat popular and it is we took or we have spoken to Mike Wright to help us with fantasy football yes now every time we've spoken to Mike Wright we've also had Nitro the American Gladiator on with us and he has helped nitro put together Nitro's fantasy football team now yeah I have been in discussions with getting Mike Wright back on the show prior to the start of the football season and this is where I need your help in making a call okay got Mike Fuentes Mike EA audience as well yeah while I like the idea of helping Nitro set up his fantasy football team again this year.
[68] What I think has happened in the past is Nitro has had a lot of questions.
[69] We have a lot.
[70] I don't want to say wasted Mike Wright's time with some of the questions.
[71] I'll say it.
[72] But I will say we haven't had time to get in a lot of questions because we've been asking very specific questions to Nitro's football team, which while entertaining and while Mike Wright seems to really enjoy as well, isn't helping the masses, right?
[73] Because we'll ask questions like, when should I draft a tight end or why do I need a tight end?
[74] Which is not super helpful for the fan that's been playing fantasy football for a long time.
[75] So my question to you guys is, do we have Nitro back on with Mike Wright?
[76] And I have a partial solution and I think it's what we might go with.
[77] But I'm open to hearing your suggestions first.
[78] I mean, I'll start.
[79] I love Nitro, so for me, I'm good with it.
[80] Like, I want Nitro on the show in some way, shape, or form.
[81] I think Nitro should take someone who is now new to fantasy this year and he should be the teacher.
[82] He should go from the student to the teacher.
[83] How about that?
[84] That doesn't help with the Mike Wright of it because then we don't have any need for Mike Wright.
[85] You also ruin somebody's fantasy football season.
[86] Yeah.
[87] Probably.
[88] Yeah.
[89] I mean, Nitro made it to the Super Bowl last year of his league.
[90] He did.
[91] He lost, but he made it.
[92] Did he?
[93] I think you did, yeah.
[94] You just made that out.
[95] I did.
[96] Mike, do you have a suggestion of what to do with Mike Wright?
[97] I think we should have Nitro on with Mike Wright once before the season, let him do all his draft questions and then we've got to have Mike Wright on separate from Nitro because I can't listen to Nitro keep saying, you know, the kid from the Chargers and he really means like Pooka Nakua from the Rams because that's what happens a lot.
[98] It does with Nitro.
[99] Should we tape it and not air it?
[100] Nitro won't know the difference, I mean.
[101] No, that's not it.
[102] Just to make Nitro happy.
[103] Just to make them happy.
[104] No, because in general, I'm trying, this season of God bless football, I'm trying to maximize the amount of things that we tape that get aired.
[105] So I'm trying to minimize the amount of things that we're taping that are never seeing the light of day, which is a surprising amount.
[106] And it's not because it's a lot.
[107] It's a lot.
[108] Every single week.
[109] I think Mikey is on to something.
[110] I think we need a Nitro draft day special.
[111] Okay.
[112] We help him one time, this is go do your draft.
[113] You're an experienced veteran now.
[114] An isolated special is what you're saying.
[115] Maybe that.
[116] A one hour special.
[117] Maybe we dedicate a full episode to it.
[118] We'll be doing...
[119] One hour we'll take it covering kickers.
[120] Why do I have to have this kicker?
[121] Oh, me, oh my.
[122] How come I can't have more kickers?
[123] What about the kid from the chargers?
[124] Okay.
[125] So my solution was going to be, let's just, let's see if we can have Mike right on for two segments and just have one with Nitro and then one without right after back -to -back.
[126] If I ask for an hour of his time with Nitro, we're not going to...
[127] It's going to be the exact.
[128] same way.
[129] No, I understand that you think that it's a special, but then we're not going to get him on again.
[130] We can't get an hour of him and then him again, I don't think.
[131] This is a busy time of year for him.
[132] What is he doing?
[133] He lives for this stuff.
[134] Mike Wright, he's a fantasy guy.
[135] He wants to talk about it all day.
[136] And Nitro was an idol.
[137] I mean, he told us that.
[138] He said he idolized Nitro growing up.
[139] I mean, it's a weird person to idolize, but that's the guy for him.
[140] Everybody has their thing, you know.
[141] Let's face it.
[142] Me and Billy have questions for Mike Wright that we want answered, and Nitro kind of takes up all our time.
[143] Right.
[144] So your teams are more, so your teams are more important than Nitro's teams.
[145] Is that what you're saying?
[146] No, but they're just as important.
[147] Okay.
[148] That's fair.
[149] Equal time.
[150] But they're just as important.
[151] So I think in our, in our inaugural segment of production meeting on the air, we didn't really come to a solution.
[152] Well, I think you did.
[153] You make final decisions.
[154] Well, yeah.
[155] You got to call the meeting and then make a decision.
[156] I mean, I get it.
[157] And this is why you do it because I come up with the idea of a one hour special and you say no, Stu, that's not what we're doing.
[158] Yes.
[159] Yeah.
[160] Right.
[161] Yeah.
[162] So what did you decide?
[163] I'm going to wait till the last minute to tell you what the decision is because it gives you less time to change it We'll get Billy's decision of the week of the month Yes I like that We'll get to the story of the week In just a second here Billy we did not get your reaction last week To the news that Tua was signed Not only did he sign the big contract He grabbed the microphone at practice And he celebrated it with the fans It was odd So odd So what you've been seeing reported out there is this is a new Tua.
[164] Once he signed the contract, this is a different version of Tua.
[165] Is that a good thing, though?
[166] Nua.
[167] Is that a good thing?
[168] Oh.
[169] A new Tua.
[170] Tua.
[171] Tua.
[172] There you go.
[173] Oh.
[174] So you were saying?
[175] I was just saying it seems as though we've turned over a new leaf here with Tua.
[176] I would say, and I don't know, time -wise, I don't know the timeline.
[177] You guys correct me if I'm wrong.
[178] But since Tua was signed, and I think this may have happened after you guys recorded after the last episode aired, they also saw, signed Tyreek to an extension.
[179] Yes.
[180] So, like, the Dolphins are now spending money on now.
[181] I don't, was it an extension or they just gave him more guaranteed money over the next three years?
[182] I think it was always three years, but they gave him more guaranteed money.
[183] They've reworked his contract and they've locked him in.
[184] So, like, we're not going to seemingly have an issue over money, which is kind of interesting because, like, the reason that he left the chiefs is because they had just signed Patrick Mahomes and they were out of money for him.
[185] But the Dolphins now have signed their quarterback and they've signed Tyree Kill.
[186] I mean, Mike McDaniel is telling you.
[187] whether you think he's right or not, it doesn't matter.
[188] He's the guy who's in charge.
[189] He's making those decisions.
[190] He's telling you, I have a window here with Tua, Tariq Hill, and Jalen Waddle, and I'm going for it right now.
[191] He thinks it's enough to win a Super Bowl.
[192] Yeah.
[193] I mean, that's his job.
[194] Do you think this says anything about Mike McDaniel?
[195] Like, do you think that he's feeling the pressure that I need to win with this core now?
[196] Like, we need to lock these guys in because I need to win with them.
[197] Because once we've missed this window, I don't know what we're going to do after.
[198] I mean, I could be reading too much into it.
[199] I don't think you all.
[200] And I'm not saying that like he's, I don't think he's anywhere near a hot seat or anything like that, but he's just doubling down and recommitting to this core.
[201] He has Tariq Hill, who's getting older and three years remaining on his contract.
[202] You have Moster who's 31 or 32 years old, led the NFL and touchdowns are tied for the lead in touchdowns last year.
[203] He's 32 years old.
[204] Waddle is young.
[205] Yeah, I think he thinks there's a window right now with that core of Moster, A. Chan, Waddle, Tariq Hill, Tua, I have a three -year window to win a Super Bowl.
[206] Well, you've also made decisions in like, okay, we're going to let Christian Wilkins go.
[207] Right.
[208] And we're going to put the money here.
[209] I mean, San Francisco's going through it.
[210] You can't sign everyone, you know?
[211] I mean, that's what happens when you pay your quarterback, $50 million.
[212] You had to pay him, though.
[213] $15 million.
[214] You didn't have to pay him.
[215] Because if you don't pay him, like I said, you paid Waddle all this money.
[216] You have Tyree Kohl.
[217] I understand you guys saying they had to pay him.
[218] I get it.
[219] I understand that.
[220] You could have tagged him.
[221] You could have tagged him.
[222] Technically, you didn't have to pay him.
[223] to pay him.
[224] I mean...
[225] Well, he was under contract this year anyway, right?
[226] Yes.
[227] You'd have to tag him.
[228] You could tag him, I think twice.
[229] You could tag him.
[230] So, like, you could have continued that going on and on, but I think the option of getting rid of him entirely and starting with someone else because you're not sold on him is not an option, right?
[231] Because then what you do?
[232] Not for Mike Big Daniel, no. No, then what do you do?
[233] You go into the Baker Mayfields, the Gardner Minchus, and you're hoping that you catch fire with one of them.
[234] But you're basically punting on the rest of Terry Hill's career.
[235] That's what I'm saying.
[236] Right.
[237] It's over.
[238] That's over.
[239] I mean, Mike McDaniel, before he got started here, me, Dan, Mike Ryan went up.
[240] We spoke with him.
[241] We interviewed him.
[242] He told us then, Tua was the perfect guy for my offense.
[243] It's one of the reasons I wanted to come here.
[244] He's the perfect quarterback for this offense.
[245] And so he's in charge.
[246] And that's how Tua gets $50 million in a year where you didn't really have to pay him.
[247] You did have reports that he pushed hard on getting it done with Stephen Ross.
[248] He did.
[249] Like he was driving force on that.
[250] Also, I don't know if you guys caught this.
[251] Which bodes well for the entire Dolphin team.
[252] to know that a coach will go into the owner's office and push for you to get a contract if he likes you.
[253] Yeah, it won't.
[254] Players coach.
[255] If he likes you.
[256] By the way, a quick note on the Tyree Kill contract, he now has $106 .5 million and updated fully guaranteed money it's the most ever for a wide receiver.
[257] That's what it was about.
[258] It was guaranteed money, not more years.
[259] Because once you give two of that money, Tarik Hill is sitting there going, hey, the reason he got that money is because of me. Yeah.
[260] Now give me more money.
[261] Well, I remember when he was out here saying, I'm going to get mine no matter who's throwing the ball and then he got that with Skylar Thompson and I was like, oh wow, he's right.
[262] He'll because he's going to get that no matter what.
[263] Did you guys see that now the person who has a stadium after him, Pitbull, Pipple Stadium here at FIU the pit bull came out and gave his official Super Bowl prediction for this season.
[264] Already?
[265] Yeah.
[266] Pit bull is on the record giving his prediction for who will win the Super Bowl.
[267] Mikey, do you have any thoughts or guesses as to who it is that Pippel thinks is going to win the Super Bowl this year?
[268] I would have guessed he'd say Miami.
[269] I mean, he is, after all, Mr. 305.
[270] Yeah, well, he's graduated.
[271] He's also Mr. Worldwide.
[272] Yeah, he's graduated to Mr. Worldwide.
[273] Mr. Worldwide.
[274] I will let you know that Pitbull has come out and said that the Dolphins are going to win the Super Bowl.
[275] Not how you play the game, Mikey.
[276] He was hoping you would choose someone else.
[277] Did this on Sports Center, so it's official.
[278] Right.
[279] He wanted you to choose the bills.
[280] He wanted me to say the Jets.
[281] He wanted Fuentes to say anyone but the Dolphins.
[282] No, it's fine.
[283] But that's what you were going for.
[284] No, no, it's fine.
[285] It's fine.
[286] I just, that pit bull off I used to worry so crazy.
[287] It's awesome.
[288] And I know that it's a couple of days old at this point, but oh my gosh.
[289] Are you calling games this year?
[290] Oh, what if you like end up calling like Pipple night?
[291] I don't know.
[292] Every night is Pipple night.
[293] That's good point.
[294] I don't know what I can say.
[295] Right.
[296] I don't know what I can say.
[297] What do you mean?
[298] I don't know what I can say.
[299] I don't know what I can say.
[300] Iside info.
[301] Are you calling games?
[302] We're just going to, we're just going to next question this one.
[303] Are you going to call the first game ever at the pit?
[304] I don't know what I can say.
[305] That's just, I have a story of the week.
[306] Oh, you do?
[307] Yeah, I do.
[308] You bailed yourself out.
[309] My story of the week.
[310] Later this episode.
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[325] Hall of Famer Dwight Freeney is going to join us in a few minutes here.
[326] Very much looking forward to that.
[327] Told a story about jumping out of a window during his Hall of Fame speech when he was two years old.
[328] I have follow -up questions to that.
[329] But Billy is upset because at the time of taping God bless football this week, Brandon Ayuk is still a 49er.
[330] And Billy feels like he's holding everything up.
[331] And he's a little upset with it.
[332] Is that fair?
[333] Is that an accurate depiction of what you told me?
[334] I don't know if it's him that I'm upset with.
[335] The situation is a bit annoying.
[336] I mean, what are we waiting on?
[337] Let's get this over with.
[338] We're just sitting around waiting for Brandon Ayyuk to, to be a 49er or more than likely not be a 49er, and then we have to figure out where he's going to be.
[339] So let's get this going already.
[340] What are we waiting on here?
[341] I feel like he's in a plane just circling above Pittsburgh right now.
[342] I feel like he's just hovering above Pittsburgh, and he's just waiting for clearance to land.
[343] That's where I feel like we're at.
[344] So the Niners tagged him.
[345] He'll make $14 million this year if he stays with San Francisco.
[346] I think he should stay with San Francisco, because that team has the best chance of the teams that are interested, at least the teams that we know of, that team has the best chance of winning the Super Bowl.
[347] He kind of rejected New England already.
[348] He was like Jacoby Brissette.
[349] Nah, I'm kind of with Billy now, with Ayuk.
[350] You know what?
[351] If you want out and the Patriots are making the offer and they're going to give you the extension, then get the hell out.
[352] What are you doing?
[353] You're holding everything up.
[354] Is it on him, ultimately, though?
[355] He didn't want to go to New England.
[356] The framework of a deal was done there, and his agents called and were like, eh.
[357] Yeah.
[358] Yeah, we're good.
[359] You want to go, go.
[360] You know what I mean?
[361] How badly do you actually want to leave?
[362] Right, right.
[363] Well, he wants to leave.
[364] He wants his cake and he wants to eat it too, Billy.
[365] Not only does he want to leave, you don't think he does.
[366] He wants to leave.
[367] He wants his money.
[368] He wants his extension.
[369] He also wants to play on a team that has a chance to win the Super Bowl.
[370] Unfortunately, he's on one of those teams.
[371] They just don't want to give him the money.
[372] Yeah.
[373] Yeah.
[374] So just go get the money elsewhere.
[375] Go get the money from the Patriots.
[376] It's like, whatever you think.
[377] And what, the Steelers are the better option?
[378] Like, get out of here.
[379] You think the Steelers are going to be great?
[380] Do you guys think the Steelers are going to be good?
[381] I think the Steelers have a chance.
[382] I think the Steelers have a chance to be really, really good.
[383] I do.
[384] Steelers country, let's ride.
[385] I think the Steelers have a chance to be a giant disappointment.
[386] Well, they have a chance to be a disappointment as well.
[387] If Fields or Russell Wilson are good and you pair that with Iyuk and Hickens and you have T .J. Watt on defense, you know they can run the football.
[388] Like, yeah, the Steelers have a chance to be good.
[389] But to your point, they also have a chance.
[390] to be a complete disaster.
[391] I'm going to put this out there.
[392] Steelers have a chance to get Mike Tomlin a losing season this season.
[393] Really?
[394] Yeah.
[395] Don't say, don't say have a chance.
[396] Make a prediction.
[397] That's my prediction.
[398] They have a chance.
[399] No, no, no, no. That's not a prediction they have a chance.
[400] They've never had one before.
[401] A prediction is Mike Tomlin's going to have his first losing season this year.
[402] You said that, not me. I said they have a chance.
[403] You're an ass.
[404] I don't know where you get off saying with certainty he's going to have a losing season this year.
[405] There's a chance, though.
[406] I need to slow down.
[407] Is that what you're saying?
[408] You don't feel like this is like one of those things that it's like, I don't know if this is going to work out exactly how they think it's going to work out.
[409] Like the two -quarterback situation, like that's fine and dandy.
[410] Everybody's nice and happy now.
[411] By the way, did you see, this is unrelated to what we're talking about, did you see the Seahawks had five fights in camp in one day.
[412] Yeah, chippy, yeah.
[413] Helmet swinging fights, not like pushing and shoving and, and you shouldn't say that kind of fights.
[414] Like, I'm going to take off your helmet and beat you in the head with it fights.
[415] Wasn't a D .K. Metcalf?
[416] Wasn't he one of them?
[417] Yes, it was.
[418] He was the culprit.
[419] Well, where's the line between this is great?
[420] I like this fire in our team's eyes.
[421] And, like, this is one of those things that's going to bring us together.
[422] And, oh, I don't know about this.
[423] It's like the line.
[424] three fights in one day?
[425] Right about the time a helmet comes off is really when it becomes a line.
[426] Like as soon as somebody could actually get seriously injured from a swinging helmet.
[427] Yeah, that's where you draw the line.
[428] I think you have guys in pads who have you know, they've had this summer off.
[429] It's August.
[430] It's hot.
[431] It's humid.
[432] You know, they get, you know, they start swinging helmets at each other.
[433] We'll ask Dwight Freeney if he ever swung a helmet at a teammate during training camp.
[434] All a favor.
[435] Next.
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[445] We have a Hall of Famer joining us right now.
[446] Should have been last year, but he got in this year.
[447] It's Dwight Freedy.
[448] He and I laugh, and we get about that a lot and I've said that Dwight Friety, in my opinion, was a first ballot Hall of Famer.
[449] But you got it to the Hall of Fame, you got the Yellow Jacket, man. In terms of the weekend, like whatever your expectations, Dwight, were for the weekend, did it exceed whatever expectations you have?
[450] by far exceeded it um you know you can talk about all you want it you know and you can hear all the stories but when you actually feel the emotion um in the moment you know what's going through your mind and all these legends that you're seeing and those guys are here for you and to um bring you in like people brought them in you know it's it's an emotional thing and And words can't really describe my appreciation and what was going through my brain when I was sitting there on that stage on Friday and Gold Jack at dinner watching legend after a legend come up there, you know, limp up there.
[451] Both of them.
[452] My guys can't barely even walk barely and they're up there.
[453] And, you know, they're all here to, you know, obviously bring us in, bring our new class in and embrace us.
[454] So, yeah, that feeling and how that, what that meant to me. Couldn't really describe, you know, how big of a moment that was for me in my family.
[455] Wait, once you finally get in and you have that moment, you describe it or you experience everything you just described, do you forget about the idea of, I should have gotten this sooner?
[456] Oh, yeah.
[457] That's gone.
[458] That thought, hey, look, it is what it is.
[459] You can't go back and fix, you know, and, you know, that's, water under the bridge.
[460] All right.
[461] You know, I would I have loved to be in the first ballot, sure.
[462] But you know what?
[463] There's a lot of guys who are in there that it doesn't even matter.
[464] And I couldn't tell you all the guys that I saw who was the first ballot and who wasn't.
[465] You know, the guys don't talk about it.
[466] You know, it's it's based on, you know, whoever decided to vote on us to say, hey, this guy's the first ballot or not, you know, and we don't have control over that.
[467] All we know is we're in.
[468] We're all in the same team now.
[469] You know, I can't be cut, traded, or released off this team.
[470] You can't forgive my man. Even if I wanted to get off, I couldn't get off.
[471] I can't even die off this team.
[472] I'm there.
[473] I feel like in your career you didn't have many fears of getting cut and traded to all.
[474] So, get out of here.
[475] Towards the end.
[476] It gets kind of sticky towards the end.
[477] You're taking a little bit too much money.
[478] a little old day or whatever that gold jacket dinner though i went with tony becelli a couple of years ago to check it out the gold jacket dinner for me was better than the hall of fame ceremony i'm speaking as a fan though you're a hall of famer was it better because that thing is special man yeah i wouldn't say it's necessarily better but it's more i don't even say significant kind of significant i would probably use it that word because it's private too yeah yeah yeah you're going in and you're walking through a gauntlet of hall of famers who are not just giving you high fives and saying good congratulations they're embracing you they're giving you hugs they're saying words to you like yeah you finally made it man and and i appreciate you and you're going to be part of us and you're one of us and it's a it's they're embracing you as family and um that feeling you know it's a lot it's it's deep it's deep and it's it's deeper than Saturday, and just because the Saturday is just more or less you're giving a speech and you're telling your fans and your friends and your family that you love them, which is, you know, this is also significant.
[479] But I think from a standpoint of just personally how you felt, you know, when you're on that stage and when you're running through that gauntlet and then you finally get that gold jacket now that I get to keep, it's, yeah, it's hard to measure up to that.
[480] Dwight, you didn't appear to be nervous at all, were you?
[481] Like, you nailed it.
[482] Man, what?
[483] The Saturday?
[484] Yeah, the speech, yes.
[485] Yeah, it's called tequila.
[486] You got to have the right.
[487] You and MJ had a couple of shots.
[488] The mix got to be right, you know what I mean?
[489] You can't have it too far because I won't be able to see the words.
[490] And if it's not enough, I'm going to be shaken.
[491] So you're going to have the balance right.
[492] And I think I had a good balance, man. And you know what?
[493] It's just the thing is, is once you get up there, you know, for me, and I'll be honest with you, it was like, you know, I had to treat it like a game, you know, you prepared, you got ready.
[494] Here we go.
[495] That first whistle's about to blow, and I got to go out there and perform.
[496] And I turned the switch on, and that was it, and I was done.
[497] you know i'm not going to think about you know i wasn't sitting there thinking okay everybody's naked in the stands and you know i'm talking to little two -year -old it was more like you know what i'm going to go ahead and that's an off to tackle and i'm about to go get them and that's it and i'm about to go do what i do and there's a bunch of quarterbacks on there so time to get the sack that was more of my mentality was tequila ever a pre -game ritual for you by the way i mean just that of no way in the game in the game of football Look, you exhaust yourself in so many different ways, but physically exhausting yourself is probably the top thing, right?
[498] So I go ahead and take a shot of tequila.
[499] I'll be dying, you know, with cramps or whatever it is by the end of the first quarter.
[500] So it wouldn't happen.
[501] Okay.
[502] I mean, we were just talking about a story where Brandon Jacobs admitted to doing a line of cocaine before a football game and he had the best game he's ever had.
[503] Not making it to the Hall of Fame, Brandon Jacobs, by the way.
[504] 338 and four touchdowns.
[505] It might be worth it.
[506] 3 .38 and four touchdowns.
[507] I don't know if it would be worth it, but I guess that's off to them.
[508] I don't know.
[509] Do what you do, Brandon.
[510] I got name me. Oh, my God.
[511] I remember a lot from your speech, but the thing that really stuck out to me, were your teammates, you listing the teammates, some of those teammates not being in the Hall of Fame.
[512] That was one.
[513] The other thing, and we'll get to that in a second.
[514] The other one was right at the beginning of the speech, you've waited your entire life and I'm wondering what happened here to apologize to your mom for jumping out a window as a two -year -old.
[515] I have so many follow -ups.
[516] Please expand on that story.
[517] And how do you remember something as a two -year -old?
[518] There's nuts.
[519] Nuts.
[520] I was out of my mind.
[521] I thought I could fly.
[522] I had, I was a big Superman fan.
[523] So I had a whole Superman outfit on, you know, Superman pajamas and all that.
[524] And I jump out the window yelling Superman and I jump and obviously I go straight down.
[525] And I laid into a bush.
[526] And you know what?
[527] The thing is, it's like I, you know, completely forgot about this whole thing and the whole moment.
[528] And my mother this year, you know, I don't know what she was.
[529] talking about and she brings this thing up she's like like how you remember when you jumped out the window i said what you mean i jumped out the window and she told me i said you know what i kind of remembered that jumping out the window and that's you know i never apologize so there you go i got an opportunity to apologize see that billy superman i mean they're teaching the kids bad things you know yeah yeah you know you think you can fly no more superheroes no more super hero When you were rattling off to teammates there, so you're talking Peyton, who's in the Hall of Fame, Edron James in the Hall of Fame, Marvin Harrison in the Hall of Fame, then you get to Robert Mathis, he'll get to the Hall of Fame, and perhaps him not being in yet, and Reggie Wayne not being in yet gives you perspective on the first ballot stuff.
[530] Reggie Wayne is still waiting.
[531] Jeff Saturday was on that team, and I was thinking to myself, how many Super Bowls would this team have won if Tom Brady merely did?
[532] not exist.
[533] What do you think?
[534] Oh, my goodness.
[535] Oh, my goodness.
[536] Tom, I hate you.
[537] No, it's, you know, what it is, is just, it is what it is.
[538] You know, you look back and you don't realize what you had until it's gone, you know, and, you know, you kind of felt it.
[539] You know, you had a great team.
[540] You know, you had more wins in a 10 -year span than any team in NFL history, but you didn't have the rings.
[541] like you wanted all right but you have one and that's a lot more than a lot a lot of people can say that they have um but yeah we have a list of hall of famers you know had him been in terry you had to put him on the list you know he's a guy he's another guy that has a chance of getting in so we had a whole bunch of us on that team and that tells you a type of team that we did have and yeah Tom kind of stood in the way of a few You know, and, you know, but, you know, this, that's how the ball bounces.
[542] And that's why this is one of the greatest games, if not the greatest game, has ever been created just because you never know what's going to happen.
[543] And, you know, look at Tom.
[544] You know, Tom, you know, you would think every time Tom laces it up, he's going to win it, right?
[545] But he's failed more times than he succeeded at getting a ring.
[546] You know, he's played a lot of years, and I think he ended up having seven or eight championship.
[547] or whatever he has.
[548] But that's, you know, it's a 20 plus career.
[549] So it's a lot of failures that go in that.
[550] And, you know, he's at the top of the list of as far as rings are concerned and what that organization has done.
[551] You know, so, you know, for us, yeah, we have only one, but one is I love a lot more than none.
[552] Well said.
[553] You guys were so built to play with a lead because of, Peyton and all that and a high -powered offense and then you guys coming off the edge to make sure the quarterback was never comfortable.
[554] And then the Patriots kind of exploited that.
[555] And then you got Bob Sanders healthy and you got Booger McFarland.
[556] Like how much did that change how you could play against a team like the Patriots?
[557] Yeah, well, I wouldn't say they exploited anything.
[558] I think they just happened.
[559] The ball happened to bounce the right way when it needed to bounce the right way for them.
[560] Maybe it has to do with weather.
[561] It had to be this.
[562] but, you know, it wasn't like, you know, they're killing us now.
[563] You know, it would be fourth quarter, okay, you know, maybe we should have ran the ball in that moment, or maybe, you know, the ball bounced the wrong way.
[564] So let's not go too far.
[565] I'm talking about it.
[566] I caught him off guard.
[567] He wasn't expecting me to call back.
[568] Yeah, no, I really wanted to know.
[569] But he told me before you came on, Dwight, was that he feels like Booger and Bob Sanders solidified that defense and help your team get past the Patriot.
[570] Yeah.
[571] So I think that any pieces that we added after the fact, and obviously huge pieces in Booger McFarland and Bob Sanders, were big, big parts of that team.
[572] Bob is a human missile bowling ball, whatever you want to call it.
[573] And, you know, he is a guy who plays the game, like how I play the game, kind of just reckless abandon and just watch out.
[574] Here he comes.
[575] and having a safety like that who can come down and make any tackle and just go out and just play as hard as he you know it's invaluable and to add that and Booger McFarland who is another guy who's underrated I think you know you guys see him on TV all the time but people don't realize how good he was as a detackle he would know every play he'll call the play out before it happens me and him are talking before up here it comes here's a lead draw here comes the dive here comes this here comes that and um you know he was a heck of a teammate you know and um i think if the injury didn't happen you'd be seeing booger you know here you know maybe one of these days in the hall of fame if it wasn't for him getting hurt um but yeah you know i think that you know for us you know getting that type of defense around us the more players the more you know the guys go out there and play, like how those guys played, you know, gave us a better chance of winning games, especially games deep in the playoffs when we needed to win them.
[576] Because, you know, you all know is defense wins the championships, right?
[577] And offenses for tickets.
[578] So that's just what it is for us.
[579] And we went out and we had to show the world that, you know, look, this defense is something serious.
[580] right we had this conversation last year with tony becelli and i don't know how much thought you've given it yet but you are going to get your own version of your hall of fame bust and i see a wonderful set up behind you i'm wondering is that going to live there behind you if so what are we going to move out of there like where are we going to put your hall of fame bus that you get he was very pleased with the bus by the way he liked how it looked it looked exactly i actually i i really did you know what?
[581] I don't know.
[582] I mean, I would think it would have to live somewhere back here.
[583] Yes.
[584] You know, um, you know, these are a lot of great memories and moments in my life here.
[585] So, you know, it's cool.
[586] I have a little light that comes down, you know, to kind of shine on a little bit, give it a little glow.
[587] Um, but no, it's, it's, I didn't even know we were going to get one.
[588] And, and someone told me that I, I honestly can't even, you know, believe that.
[589] You know, how big is it going to be?
[590] You know, it's a little.
[591] You know, it's going to be the same side, you know, whatever.
[592] But, hey, look, man, you know, the Hall of Fame did do a great job of honoring us.
[593] And this is another example.
[594] Where's the jacket, man?
[595] Where is it?
[596] Jackets all wrapped up in a little protective, you know, garment bag in the closet.
[597] It's so hot.
[598] And my daughter can't climb up the little ladder I have there to get it.
[599] It's hot.
[600] how many hours have you have you worn that thing since you got it like or you just put it right in the closet you just put it away well no I you know what there was some events after and um like I had my um actually Friday night you get to wear it all right after you get it and then Saturday obviously but Saturday night you get to wear it and everyone wants to take pictures man that jacket got some I mean miles on it and it was looking it was looking it was looking orange It was the sweat, my sweat was coming through it, and it was looking orange, but those guys at me as funny, it's like, they take your jacket right after the events, and they dry clean it immediately.
[601] And so the next day, you wake up, it's ready.
[602] Whenever you need it fixed, they're on top of it.
[603] Yeah, so, you know, it's, right now it's sitting, you know, in the garment bag, but when I was at all of fame, it was getting, yeah, it was getting somewhere.
[604] What's the, and this is an indelicate question, and I don't mean to potentially, upset you with this.
[605] What's the process of replacing the jacket should something happen?
[606] Because, like, you're 44 now.
[607] You're in great shape.
[608] When you're 70 and not necessarily in the same shape, maybe the same size jacket doesn't make you.
[609] I mean, Dwight.
[610] It happens to everyone.
[611] Larger jackets.
[612] I mean, give Billy a brain.
[613] As our bodies change, how do we get maybe a larger jacket?
[614] You have them spilling wine on it or something?
[615] I mean.
[616] Well, you know, putting on a couple of LBs, you never know.
[617] We know.
[618] We know.
[619] We know.
[620] is happening.
[621] Taking off a couple of things.
[622] Yeah, exactly, 100%.
[623] So what I know is this, they, like I said, they do a great job and taking care of us.
[624] They have people to refit it, resute it, re -measure things that are not right to make sure that you look your best.
[625] So they always continue to make sure that we're honored and we're looking good, even when I gain about 20 pounds here in the next 20 years.
[626] It's actually a great question, Billy.
[627] I never thought about right because yeah your body changes that you grow older and minds will change oh my so you talked about the guys like kind of limping up during the uh the gold jacket ceremony and and i was there i saw it and you're right and i was thinking man the stuff that some of these guys go through is your body fine right now do you feel okay or is it impossible to play that sport at the level you played it for as long as you played it and not have pain somewhere i mean it depends you know what you mean by okay right it's okay good enough for me absolutely have I felt more worse pain yep um do I feel some pain sure um but from time at time and it goes you know it comes and goes I've had seven or eight surgeries when I played so there's going to be a little bit of residual because of that um but it's nothing major where I don't think I can't handle it right now you know I've done you know good job of making sure I try to take take care of my body after I retired, you know, and we'll see when I'm 60 years old, you know, but right now, you know, knock on wood, it's not too bad.
[628] I can still swing the golf club.
[629] Oh, I know you can.
[630] So listen, MJ was there.
[631] It was very cool.
[632] I know he's become like a big brother to you, like family to you.
[633] He was there supporting you, supporting Julius Peppers.
[634] So how was that experience?
[635] Because I found it, it's amazing to be so big as an athlete and a, and a persona where you're in the NFL, you're at the NFL Hall of Fame ceremony, and the Hall of Famers are in awe of Michael Jordan.
[636] I was like, what?
[637] I know.
[638] Yeah, it's nuts.
[639] It's nuts.
[640] You know, what it is is this.
[641] This is how it went down.
[642] So last year, you know, when I was thinking I was going to make it, and I didn't make it, it's all good.
[643] You know, Michael was part of that process.
[644] You know, he's a big brother to me. We play golf four or five times a week.
[645] And so he felt it like I felt it when I didn't make it last year.
[646] And this year, he said, there's no chance I'm not making it, and I'm not going to be there to support you.
[647] You're my brother.
[648] And he said, if you don't give me a ticket, I promise you, I'm going to blow this damn building up, you know, whatever.
[649] And I was like, you know, I'm like, of course I would give you, you know, of course I'm going to give you a ticket, man. You're my guy, you know, and that's family.
[650] That's family.
[651] And I'm happy that he was there.
[652] to support me. You know, it wasn't any question in my mind that he wasn't, he was going to be there.
[653] I knew he was going to be there because that's the type of guy that he was, you know, he actually cut his vacation time down, you know.
[654] He was in like Spain or wherever he was.
[655] And he came back, made a short trip just to come back to see his little brother.
[656] And, you know, I appreciate him for that.
[657] Dwight, before you came on, we were talking about training camp, things kind of get heated sometimes, and I'm sure you saw a lot of this.
[658] The Seahawks, it came out earlier this week, got into five fights during training camp in the same day.
[659] What is the most that you've seen?
[660] Because as someone who has not participated in training camp, five seems like a bit much for one day.
[661] Well, look, put it this way.
[662] Let me ask you a question.
[663] I didn't see the clip.
[664] Was it versus another team?
[665] No, themselves.
[666] And the helmets were coming off and they were swinging helmets at each other.
[667] Yeah.
[668] Yeah.
[669] Yeah, it's about right.
[670] You know what?
[671] Look, the thing is, When you're in training camp, and it's just a lot of, you know, you're upset, you're just like, you're seeing the same guy, you know, the guy keeps holding you or whatever it is, and he knows exactly what play you're running, you know exactly what play you're, they're running, you know, you're staying in dorms, you're, you know, it's just like, and you have all this, this anger and just like, just like, just like anxiety.
[672] of just training camp, you know, you're not even playing a team yet and you're banging around, banging, hitting each other.
[673] So usually there is some type of fight or something at some point during training camp five.
[674] This seems like a lot.
[675] But then again, you know, look, one of our head coaches were coach Dungy and he ain't playing all of that.
[676] He wasn't playing.
[677] Listen, If you fight, you're going to get ejected from practice ASAP, and it wasn't, it didn't happen.
[678] Now, other years, yeah, there'll be, yeah, about four or five, you know, but it just is, it just is what it is.
[679] It's just, you know, it's nothing personal.
[680] It's just, you know, you as football players, the game is a violent game.
[681] And there's a lot of, of just intensity and just adrenaline and you're hitting each other.
[682] and there's no refs, and it's just what it is.
[683] But trust me, I bet you those guys are going to be hugging it out.
[684] Maybe not a day after, but next week.
[685] You ever swing a helmet at somebody or have a helmet swung at you?
[686] No. Who the hell would swing a helmet at Dwight Freeney, man?
[687] Doreean was huge.
[688] I can tell you the guy on that cult team that, I mean, no one ever tried Morven Harrison, right?
[689] That's fair, correct?
[690] No, I mean, no, we promise you, you know what, we didn't have much of that.
[691] Definitely during Coach Dungy's errors in time, we just didn't have much of it.
[692] We understood what it was and what we needed to do.
[693] If you can't fight in the game, you can't fight in practice.
[694] And that was our mentality.
[695] Did it happen in time and time?
[696] You know, but it wasn't something, you know, regular.
[697] We didn't have like five in one practice, you know.
[698] But we, you know, there would be, you know, spotted this, a spot it.
[699] that in the years when coach wasn't there or when I was in another team, yeah, about four or five.
[700] Dwight, real quick, before you go, before you got on, Stugat says that he believes that this is the year Mike Tomlin has a losing record for the first time.
[701] I didn't say that, Dwight.
[702] He actually used those words.
[703] Dwight, I didn't say it.
[704] Dwight, I didn't agree or disagree.
[705] Okay, all right, yes.
[706] Boy, don't worry about that one.
[707] Him and Tom, he finds a way to pull it out.
[708] I don't know how he pulls out his ass every year.
[709] He pulls that thing, man. Like, I look at the team, I'm like, there is no way he's going to be 500.
[710] Look at this.
[711] Look at this.
[712] This is backup to the backup quarterback.
[713] This is defense.
[714] And somehow he does it, man. I have all faith in that man and him doing this thing.
[715] Yeah, I have no faith in Billy.
[716] I mean, he totally shoved those words into my mouth.
[717] You're a Hall of Famer, man. You cannot be cut.
[718] But as Billy pointed out, I don't think too many teams were thinking about ever cutting you.
[719] So congratulations to you, man. I texted you.
[720] And it was just so, it was so.
[721] great, having gotten to know you a little bit, to see how happy that weekend made you.
[722] You had a big smile on your face the entire time.
[723] It may have been the tequila.
[724] My guess was it was the gold jacket, your family being around, your kids.
[725] It was really cool to see you be honored and be that happy and be surrounded by loved ones, man. No, I appreciate you, man. It's all good.
[726] Thank you for having me. That boys take care of yourself, all right?
[727] Go play some golf, man. You know it.
[728] I got the golf shirt on him.
[729] and we're back we are exciting what's about to happen still got football first time ever what i have a video story of the week wow so before the stories i mean it's still the story of the week It's still the story of the week, but before I've just told you the story of the week based on something that I've read this one, this story of the week is based on video.
[730] Are you excited about this?
[731] I am excited.
[732] All right.
[733] So today, should we just get to it or you want to, you know, play around a little more, joke around, make a little quips here and there?
[734] Quips, why were you throwing elbows at me?
[735] That's just what you do?
[736] You laugh.
[737] How you do one of those?
[738] No, I want to get to it.
[739] What do you mean?
[740] It's your story of the week.
[741] It's my favorite segment.
[742] I know, but you like to play around sometimes.
[743] I'm a man of business.
[744] We've discussed this in the past.
[745] And I'm trying to figure out if you want to play around, if we can just get down to business, brass tax.
[746] Let's get down the brass taxes.
[747] Oh, no. I think it is taxes.
[748] I think it's Brax tax.
[749] That's definitely not what it is.
[750] Okay.
[751] So today's story of the week is courtesy of Brandon Jacobs, who joined the Raw Room podcast.
[752] Skir, hold up.
[753] He did a line of cocaine before a game in high school.
[754] Did.
[755] What?
[756] Absolutely.
[757] Wait a minute.
[758] 338, 4 touchdown.
[759] It was easy.
[760] I felt like I was the only one out.
[761] Breast taxes works, by the way.
[762] That's the story of the year.
[763] Well, hold on.
[764] We haven't even done the story of the month yet.
[765] Okay.
[766] And as you can remember, last month's story of the month was never decided because I was on vacation.
[767] I mean, Brandon Jacobs is a mountain of a man. It's correct.
[768] Brandon Jacobs on cocaine?
[769] Oh, my God.
[770] I didn't think it could get any more intimidating than that.
[771] That, like, him in his normal state is intimidating.
[772] Him on cocaine is the most intimidating thing I've ever seen in my life.
[773] The story that he told was that he did it before a game when he was in high school.
[774] He went for 338 yards and had four touchdowns.
[775] What did he do the week before?
[776] I'd be interested.
[777] You don't have game logs?
[778] He's got to go back from high school.
[779] I want to know what he's like when he's not on cocaine.
[780] I just know he was 6 '4, 264 pounds when he was playing.
[781] He had no business being a running back.
[782] Wow.
[783] Tackle?
[784] Yeah, a defensive end.
[785] You would have been a great end.
[786] Nose tackles, whatever.
[787] Different time.
[788] He was huge.
[789] Different time.
[790] No reason being a running back at all.
[791] Yeah.
[792] But you do a line before a game and you have a stat line like that.
[793] Yeah.
[794] That many yards from the line of scrimmage.
[795] And aren't you tempted to do cocaine before every game?
[796] I'm the wrong person to ask.
[797] I'm just saying you've never done cocaine.
[798] Then you do a line of cocaine.
[799] Yeah.
[800] And you go out and you have the game.
[801] of your life.
[802] Aren't you then tempted the next week to say, hey, I'm going to do more cocaine?
[803] He claims that he never did it again.
[804] Yes, he said he never did it again.
[805] I mean, come on, everyone said.
[806] Rob Washington, three 38 and four touchdowns.
[807] You think Ron Washington?
[808] It's ironic he was a giant.
[809] Right.
[810] I mean, that's the story of the decade, by the way.
[811] Ron Washington getting busted for doing cocaine at the age of 71 and saying it was his first time.
[812] Come on.
[813] bad luck i guess he got too comfortable he didn't know how to hide it yeah he got too comfortable anyway well this led me to make a top five stupid really really wow a coincidence that quickly huh just like that unbelievable some of my best work actually wow so you have a top five based off of this story correct it is my top five current NFL players I would not want to see on cooking oh okay while playing while playing yes yes obviously so these are guys that probably in a normal day you wouldn't want to see but when they're on cocaine it's like if I was playing professional football I would not want to see these guys especially not if they're on cocaine You have five of them I actually got two O 'LIs as well Wow seven All right so we'll start off First O 'LI, Nick Chubb Seems like an angry runner Don't want to be in front of Nick Chub On downhill, all right?
[814] On cocaine On cocaine In general I don't think he'd want to be in front of Nick Chub Yeah but not especially not when he's on cocaine Got it Then Debo Samuel Debo Samuel Deblot That's a good joke It was a good joke Thank you I liked it Good joke It's a good joke It's a joke Number five Max Crosby Good joke Bad joke or just a joke New segments All right So Max Crosby Yeah What number is that?
[815] Number five He has two Xs in his name Yeah Very dangerous What does that have to do with Coke, though.
[816] I don't know, but I don't want to see a guy with two X's in his name.
[817] These are just active.
[818] I have retired when I wouldn't.
[819] Brian Cushing.
[820] Oh, that's a good one.
[821] That's a good one.
[822] Yeah.
[823] Earl Campbell.
[824] For some reason, Luke Keakley.
[825] I wouldn't want to see him.
[826] Huh.
[827] Hmm.
[828] Makes sense.
[829] Yeah, right?
[830] I got news for you.
[831] James Harrison doesn't want to see you.
[832] Yeah, probably.
[833] What?
[834] Number four, D .K. Metcalf.
[835] A sober D .K. Metcalfe once ran down Buda Baker from behind.
[836] Yeah.
[837] Okay, don't want to see him on cocaine.
[838] Cocaine, he runs down to Rick Hill.
[839] Exactly.
[840] Number three, probably runs down Noah Liles.
[841] Number three, any Bosa.
[842] Yeah.
[843] I don't want to see Nick.
[844] Mama Bosa.
[845] I don't want to see Mama Bosa.
[846] I don't want to see, Mara Bosa.
[847] This covers all the Bosa.
[848] All the Bosa.
[849] Any and all Bosa.
[850] All right, we got it.
[851] All encompassing Bosa.
[852] All of them.
[853] None of them.
[854] I don't want to see any of them when they're on Coke.
[855] Okay.
[856] Number two, Miles Garrett.
[857] Yeah.
[858] Billy said he's a very strong man. Well, he picked Billy up.
[859] He carried me around.
[860] I didn't think he was ever going to put me down.
[861] He threw Billy over his shoulder and walked around Radio Row.
[862] While recovering from surgery.
[863] He had a bum ankle, I think.
[864] And he was carrying Billy around.
[865] Like, it was nothing.
[866] What a great moment.
[867] It was so weird.
[868] It was so uncomfortable.
[869] I was like, is he ever going to put me down?
[870] Because he would finish the second of just standing off to the side and he was having a conversation.
[871] Like with his people and I'm just there.
[872] Like, freaking Lex Lugger torture racking me or something.
[873] Crazy.
[874] And number one.
[875] I think he forgot I was up there, honestly.
[876] We had you on camera off in the end.
[877] He just talking to a guy and you're there on the shoulders.
[878] I think he forgot I was up there.
[879] That's how little I weighed to him.
[880] Wait, you're maintaining he forgot a human being was on his shoulder.
[881] I agree with you.
[882] I think you're right.
[883] And number one, should be obvious, Derek Henry.
[884] There are stories of Derek Henry having 338 yard before touchdown games when he was sober in high school.
[885] Right.
[886] So imagine what he would do on cooking.
[887] Imagine.
[888] I imagine.
[889] Get the game logs on Jacobs yet from high school?
[890] No, I don't.
[891] Sorry.
[892] It was an odd request.
[893] Yeah.
[894] God bless football.