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Moment 21 - Professor Green on The Source Of Your Success

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett XX

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[0] Did you know that the DariVosio now has its own channel exclusively on Samsung TV Plus?

[1] And I'm excited to say that we've partnered with Samsung TV to bring this to life, and the channel is available in the UK, the Netherlands, Germany and Austria.

[2] Samsung TV Plus is a free streaming service available to all owners of Samsung Smart TVs and Galaxy mobiles and tablets.

[3] And along with the Dyeravisio channel, you'll find hundreds of more channels with entertainment for everyone all for free on Samsung TV plus.

[4] So if you own a Samsung TV, tune in now and watch the Dyer of a Cio channel.

[5] right now.

[6] I remember listening to your music when I was in when I was in secondary school a lot and I remember listening to a lot of your records more recently as well and even you know like as when I know you were coming in today I started like going back through my old back catalogue of your music.

[7] At the time when you made it, as you said then in the UK, in the UK hip -hop scene as a white male, that's a fucking staggering accomplishment.

[8] Like, do you not know, no, genuinely it is.

[9] I'm like, I know a lot because you might not know this, but you're from the jump -off days.

[10] Yep.

[11] And I'm all the don't -flot boys that all best friends are mine.

[12] Like, I don't know if you know you, you know -unonymous.

[13] I don't know if you know who, you know -not -oh.

[14] Okay, he'll be offended.

[15] But, no, but, like, you know, Shottie Horror?

[16] You know, I know Shottie Horrors.

[17] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[18] They used to come to my house sometimes for five days in a row and, like, stay at my house and they'd rap and stuff.

[19] I used to write music back in those days as well.

[20] But watching how talented a lot of these people are at what they're at what they.

[21] do, and still a lot of them haven't made it like you did, makes me beg the question.

[22] It's like, what were the factors that came to play to make sure that you, as a white rapper in the UK scene, got through?

[23] Do you know what?

[24] Just persistence.

[25] Really?

[26] Persistence.

[27] Persistence.

[28] I just didn't stop.

[29] You know, there were so many full starts as well, starting to Mike Skinner's record label, me and him, me being lazy, not working as hard as I should have.

[30] When?

[31] During the period when I signed to his label.

[32] I can put my hands up and say that, but us also biting heads and not agreeing on music up until a point.

[33] And then just as we did, and he sent a really kind email and he was like, look, I've been spending too long trying to make you into something that you're not rather than focusing on what you're good at, let's go.

[34] And it was almost at that point when Warner pulled the financing from his label.

[35] They were subsidizing his label.

[36] They moved everything in -house apart from all of their, the rest, sorry, I think it was 6 -7 -9 was the label they kept and they moved that in -house.

[37] and then they pulled the finance in from the rest of their subsidiaries because of Napster and Limewire, you know, the money they were seeing had fallen subsequently because of all the piracy.

[38] So the album never came out for two reasons because the label lost their financing because I never worked hard enough.

[39] And then after that I went back to what I knew and what facilitated me being able to continue my quest to become a successful musician, which, by the way, I thought, would absolve me of everything in my past and just make me happy.

[40] What did you find out?

[41] That was bullshit, isn't it?

[42] What a stupid fucking idea that was.

[43] So you thought that becoming a successful musician would put your past at ease, basically, yeah, you just, you, and this is what's dangerous about pinning your happiness or your hopes of happiness on an ever -moving goalposts that quite often you move yourself.

[44] If I sell this many records, I'm going to be happy.

[45] and then you sell that many records and then it's like, okay, if I get a number one single I'm going to be happy, then you get the number one single and then it's like, well, what's next?

[46] You talked about this earlier.

[47] You said about how you've got to enjoy the moment more else you'll never enjoy like that.

[48] Yeah, yeah.

[49] How do you do that, though, in the moment?

[50] In the moment, I don't like, for me, I'm just, it's just, it's been a really, really long journey towards not, you know, going back to the corners you can't see around.

[51] It's just taking it for what it is.

[52] It's like, I'm here and I'm entirely present.

[53] My head is not worrying about the meeting that I've got to go to afterwards.

[54] I'm aware of it because I've seen my schedule, but I'm not thinking about it.

[55] And I used to, like I would lay in bed and my mind would be spinning, spinning, spinning, spinning about everything that I had coming up.

[56] There's no, like, it's good to plan.

[57] And I find you worry more if you don't plan.

[58] But I try and look at, you know, I don't look at my calendar too far ahead anymore because it doesn't help me. You know, I want to be present.

[59] I want to be able to be here and have a conversation.

[60] with you to look you in the eye and talk to you without having other shit in my head.

[61] You know, an empty head and an open heart, man. That's how you're present.

[62] And they're not the easiest things to achieve when we all have so much going on in our lives.

[63] And when we're always so, like, ambitious, because when, like, as you say, the moving goalpost and I actually I really like, because I will achieve something today, but before the day of even achieving it, I've already set the new goal.

[64] Do you know what I mean?

[65] And so you never experienced the achievement.

[66] And I've actually, since leaving my business, one of my mentor said to me, is like, you just need to, he's that old and he's done it all and he's way more successful than I probably ever be.

[67] And he was like, the one advice I'll give to you, Steve, is just like, try your very best to enjoy it in the moment.

[68] Because you look back on it with, you know, rose -tinted glasses and you, you know, you wish you had just savored it more.

[69] Yeah, but you can enjoy it in hindsight, isn't it?

[70] It's what I was saying earlier.

[71] You look back on it and you go, wow, I did that.

[72] But actually, it's that the accolades are not that important.

[73] The rewards are, they're part of it, if you're lucky enough to achieve.

[74] but the process is the part of it that you have to enjoy and that's the I think that's the struggle that's why a lot of people don't necessarily find themselves that happy because they're not in situations where they're happy to be doing the work that they're doing to get to where they want to be and that's perhaps because they're in the wrong place where they want to be and what they're doing to get there don't you know they don't marry up and we're fortunate we do things we love we get to pick and choose I was going to say that's lucky but it's not it's hard work and perseverance what do you worry about then these days I mean most recently in the last two weeks it's been like is that noise that my son's making in his sleep normal so for context Stephen's just had a new kid a new baby boy yeah my first child and really you know just I mean yeah just the the things that I encounter day to day.

[75] I'm not really to, I don't know, man. Like, it's weird to be at this point in my life, in my career, about to sign a new record deal to be putting music out again, but to not have that, like my energy is different.

[76] I'm just excited in being able to have a route to market.

[77] I've had all this music that because of some stupid problems I had with the label I was with that I couldn't put out.

[78] I wasn't able to, to exercise.

[79] that part of, you know, what I did and that I missed terribly because that's my output.

[80] That's my creative output.

[81] You know, I enjoy working on all the other things I'm doing, whether it's a gulp or giz and greens, anything, all the ideas that I have that I, you know, will hopefully come into fruition later on that I'm chipping away at behind the scenes.

[82] But music is my output.

[83] That's my hobby.

[84] It always has been.

[85] So when I get suppressed and I'm not able to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, work on music or release music and they kind of go hand in hand because it's kind of weird working on music that you know you can't release or that you know someone is standing in the way off you that you don't feel as motivated to get in the studio and work whereas now I'm like no but I'm not worried about how it's received I'm just really happy to be able to put music out my worries are not not what they were all the things I used to worry about I you know I mean I don't have financial security yet and I'm in a much better place days than I could have been growing up where I grew up.

[86] It wasn't what was expected.

[87] But, you know, I have to pay my mortgage.

[88] I have things like that.

[89] But there's, you know, they're not worries.

[90] I have to work to pay.

[91] You know, that's, again, you know, work can be a stress or it can just be work.

[92] You know, my mortgage can be a stress or it can just be a mortgage.

[93] I just have to work.

[94] There's quite simple things that I have to do in order to pay my mortgage, you know?

[95] So I try and not get bogged down by the everyday shit.

[96] My worries are just whatever pops up and are they worries, you know?

[97] And I'm getting to know a child, like, am I holding my child correctly?

[98] Things like that.

[99] That they're my current concerns.

[100] Did you know that the Dariovacio now has its own channel exclusively on Samsung TV Plus?

[101] And I'm excited to say that we've partnered with Samsung TV to bring this to life.

[102] And the channel is available in the UK, the Netherlands, Germany and Austria.

[103] Samsung TV Plus is a free streaming service available to all owners of Samsung Smart TVs and Galaxy mobiles and tablets.

[104] And along with the DiraVosio channel, you'll find.

[105] hundreds of more channels with entertainment for everyone all for free on Samsung TV Plus.

[106] So if you own a Samsung TV, tune in now and watch the Dyer of a CEO channel right now.