435 - Ring Ring, Canada

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Welcome to my favorite murder.

[2] That's Georgia Heartstar.

[3] That is Karen Kilgariff.

[4] This is like the most perfectly synchronized intro we've ever done.

[5] We're pros now.

[6] We're pros now.

[7] We took two weeks off and now we're professionals.

[8] We're actually in the same room.

[9] That makes a huge fucking difference in podcasting you may have noticed.

[10] Oh, man. Vacation made us professionals.

[11] Turns out all we needed.

[12] I needed to be a passenger princess in Vulcan Michigan.

[13] What was that your dream to actually just, be.

[14] What?

[15] I'm like, I've watched you be a passenger princess while also being a passenger princess.

[16] That's right.

[17] But I'm not good at it in LA.

[18] So it like really strengthens my and Vince's relationship when I can like be a passenger princess in a different place.

[19] Because like most of our fights are about driving in LA.

[20] And what's the fight that I'm insane and I can't fucking stand it and I know how to do it best and I should probably be driving.

[21] You're doing it wrong and like what the fuck go around that guy?

[22] Go around that guy.

[23] Like why are you like we're not getting off for like a quarter of a mile.

[24] You don't have to get over all the way yet.

[25] You know what to me?

[26] That's the whole time.

[27] No, I try not to so bad.

[28] I try not to.

[29] What pill?

[30] What car pill could you take do you think?

[31] What car pill couldn't I take?

[32] Is there?

[33] Do they have car pills these days?

[34] They should have a car.

[35] There was the first time I ever took Xanax was a friend gave it to me when we got in the car and we were driving all the way across town to Santa Monica and I was like, I'm going to try Xanax.

[36] I took it and I found myself on the 10 freeway and fucking bumper to bumper traffic going like, it's so interesting how you can just see into other people's lives and other cars.

[37] Oh, shit, this works.

[38] This is drugs in action.

[39] Oh, my God.

[40] I needed this.

[41] I, the first time I took Xanax was also recreationally at Margaret Cho's house.

[42] That was when we spent our days drinking red wine and watching the Food Network.

[43] Oh, sounds fucking perfect.

[44] It was, that, that, it was new.

[45] And he just couldn't get over.

[46] Old School Food Network is like Sarah Moulton.

[47] Yes, too hot, too hot Hot tomollies.

[48] Hot tamales.

[49] Oh, my God.

[50] Bobby Flay was all over that shit.

[51] With that Emerald coming in hot.

[52] It was really a dream.

[53] And I didn't realize how much I don't want to cook.

[54] I'm not actually interested in cooking.

[55] Very interested in watching other people do it.

[56] Remember Yankan cook from even further back?

[57] Yes, he was like a PBS guy, wasn't he was a legend.

[58] He was so good.

[59] Also, along those same lines, who was there was another guy.

[60] Oh, you know what?

[61] He was local San Francisco, I think.

[62] We used to do an impression of him.

[63] Now I'm not going to be able to remember his last name.

[64] He's like a French guy, and when he was making his stuff.

[65] Oh, I don't you think about it.

[66] He would go, a little zold, a little beba.

[67] A little zold, a little pepper.

[68] So we always said that.

[69] If you were seasoning your food at the dinner table, you had to say that.

[70] Yeah.

[71] So are we both on Adderall or just me?

[72] If you're on and I'm on it, because that's what I'm like.

[73] You're breathing the fumes of my Adderall.

[74] So you're back?

[75] I'm back on all the things I'm supposed to be on.

[76] Do you light them along your windows, though, like all the yellow coming through with sunlight.

[77] No, because the sun's going to damage the...

[78] Oh, you got to keep those inside.

[79] Room tap.

[80] What is happening?

[81] The reason I started back on Naderol, which has been prescribed, I have ADHD.

[82] It's like, that's not bullshit, which I still feel like I have to explain to people because I still feel like guilty.

[83] It's got stigma.

[84] But yesterday, Vince and I were making our own lunches, and I explained to him my process for like what I choose for lunch.

[85] And it was so complicated.

[86] It involved so many steps.

[87] It involved the past.

[88] It involved the future.

[89] It involved like, let's hear it.

[90] I mean, it was just one of those things where it's like, well, if I open that thing of chicken, then I have to eat the rest of it by tomorrow, it's going to go bad.

[91] And if I open that avocado, then that avocado, tomorrow I know I'm going to eat this for lunch, so I'm not going to finish that avocado, and the avocado is going to go bad.

[92] But I want to eat this right now, but I know we're having beef for dinner.

[93] So if I should, I shouldn't, I shouldn't, and last night I had this for dinner, so I shouldn't have more chicken.

[94] Shit.

[95] Do you do that?

[96] Oh, yeah.

[97] But me, everything's like, I just go, hmm, it's time to order out.

[98] It's the easiest.

[99] I stand in front of a refrigerator.

[100] full of diet Pepsi.

[101] And I go, looks like I need to get some Mexican food in here.

[102] I'm going to definitely go to Trader Joe's tomorrow.

[103] Like, that's happening, it's happening.

[104] But I think that thing of like the problem of half an avocado where you're just like, it's always a measuring, timing, cooking element that was never, what do they say?

[105] It was never shown to me in like a way that I could copy.

[106] Okay.

[107] It was always my mom throwing everything up in the air and going, let's just get Chinese.

[108] I can't.

[109] I worked all day.

[110] God damn it.

[111] I can't do that.

[112] this and we'd be like, yep, here we go.

[113] Yeah, that sounds great.

[114] Those people that can throw a couple ingredients in a pan calmly.

[115] That's my fucking sister somehow.

[116] We're from the same place, but she can put a thing in a toaster on an English muffin and just be like, that's the fucking best thing I've ever seen.

[117] Why don't I eat that?

[118] Why don't I do that?

[119] What, does she do a mini pizza on an English muffin?

[120] She'll do a pizza, just a little sandwich.

[121] It's why she has kids and I don't because she can fucking handle shit and I can't.

[122] The reason she has kids is because she can make a really good English muffin.

[123] And she has to share that with somebody.

[124] That's right.

[125] She needs two sweet little boys to share that with.

[126] Oh, yeah.

[127] Shit.

[128] Damn it.

[129] I moved to those over there.

[130] Kara just placed her water bottle down so delicately because we're trying to be quiet because of the mics pick everything up.

[131] And it was just so, like, dainty.

[132] And it also took, I think, 18 seconds.

[133] It was a slow lowering.

[134] To go all the way down.

[135] Here's a thing that involves the podcast.

[136] Oh, good idea.

[137] There is a documentary out called How to Rob a Bank on Netflix about your boy, Scott Scurlock, aka Hollywood, the guy you covered in episode 205, who in Seattle, like, built the fucking treehouse out in the woods and robbed their shit out of banks.

[138] Yes.

[139] It shows you the treehouse.

[140] It shows you him.

[141] He's hot.

[142] It's like, it's a lot.

[143] That is how to rob a bank on what channel.

[144] How to rob a bank on Netflix.

[145] Netflix.

[146] Yeah.

[147] How was your vacation?

[148] really quick before we go back to the podcast that we never started it was great i've been holding this since the first night the first dinner vinson i had in michigan in the town called potoski which was the cutest fucking thing i've ever seen we had a dinner and it was a steakhouse and they had a one pound twice baked potato i was like i cannot wait to tell cared about this it was the size of a like baby yes a baby filled with bacon and cheese yes it was so good Was it just yours or did you share it?

[149] We shared it.

[150] Oh, that's nice.

[151] And then I almost ate French onion soup three times on my vacation, but it was only twice.

[152] During the summer.

[153] It's not that interesting, yeah.

[154] So that's all I have to report.

[155] Love that.

[156] What about yours?

[157] Well, I was in Milwaukee because I went to see Bradford.

[158] Yes, that's right.

[159] Who works in the legal department.

[160] That's our Great Lakes office is what he calls his house.

[161] So we just had a very chill visit.

[162] Milwaukee, we've had a very lovely time and experience.

[163] doing our shows there every time.

[164] As a town, it's as good, if not better, than those experiences we've had.

[165] It's so pretty there.

[166] People, everybody, like, all their stuff looks nice.

[167] Every single house, every single neighborhood.

[168] Everyone's yard is...

[169] All little Victorians and shit.

[170] And, like, yeah, or even, I can't explain it.

[171] It was just, like, it felt like a homey, cozy, beautiful in every way, city.

[172] Yeah, I think MFM moves to them.

[173] Midwest is important decade two of this podcast with that idea that it's like we should actually we should go on themed to vacations where it's like this time we'll go the Midwest this time we're going to South America and what does that mean to you and then like we both do our own thing there and then it's like well what did it mean to you and for me it was twice baked potatoes I think for me if I had known I would have just been trying to find a bigger twice baked potato than one pound there can be if there is you need to at us You need to tag us and tell us.

[174] There's guys in England that I was watching on TikTok.

[175] They have a, if I'm not wrong, a baked potato food truck.

[176] There you go.

[177] Have you seen that one?

[178] No, we've been looking for it forever.

[179] It's just cute guys in England making people.

[180] I think they call them Jacket potatoes rather.

[181] They call Jacket potatoes, yes.

[182] Just filling them up with good stuff.

[183] Fuck yeah.

[184] But I don't want it covered.

[185] I still want the baked potato to be the vessel.

[186] You know what I mean?

[187] You don't want, like, bacon to upstage your potato.

[188] I don't mind the baking upstaging it, but I don't want to be like, they open it and they almost use the baked potato like a plate and then they just put a bunch of shit on it.

[189] No, no, no, no, no, no, you know what I mean?

[190] No. No, you can't do that.

[191] When you see like a really great burrito and they're just covered in a bunch of sauces and things, you're like, well, the burrito is the point.

[192] Yes.

[193] So I want the burrito.

[194] Culinary world, now that we've admitted that we like you, let's pull back on not only as sauces, but sprinkling parsley everywhere.

[195] No one needs it.

[196] I fucking hate it.

[197] Have I brought that up on this show before?

[198] Parsley, but I know you don't like cilantro.

[199] I don't like cilantro as a flavor.

[200] That's just because I have the soap thing.

[201] Yeah.

[202] But the parsley as a kind of last splash accent, I don't need it, especially on scrambled eggs.

[203] Oh, let's talk to Tom Colicchio, get him on here.

[204] All right.

[205] Well, let's talk about this podcast network that we have.

[206] Let's do it.

[207] I think we've talked about this already.

[208] Kate Winkler -Dawson has done 12 unbelievably amazing seasons of 10fold more wicked.

[209] It was an OG podcast on this network.

[210] Kate Winkler -Dawson is one of our all -stars.

[211] So she is putting that podcast to bed.

[212] So thank you, Kay, for all of your hard work and everything you brought to this network because it is beyond legit.

[213] If you haven't listened to Tenfold More Wicked and you're interested in historical true crime, let Kate Winkler -Dawson take you on 12 seasons worth of journeys.

[214] There's no better historical true crime podcast, in my opinion, than Tenfold More Wicked.

[215] Yeah, she's the greatest.

[216] And so she's retiring it, But she has her podcast, Wicked Words, which is actually kind of like a true crime talk show where she interviews true crime journalists, true crime authors, all kinds of people in the space that she knows that she's worked with that she's interested in.

[217] And so you can always listen to Kate Winkler -Dawson just to have a conversation with some of the leading people in the true crime space.

[218] The people who are the most enmeshed in the cases that we lightly cover, the people that we use as sources, she interviews those people about those cases.

[219] fascinating.

[220] And on some upcoming episodes, she's talking to author Patricia Cornwell and journalist and podcaster Mandy Matney from the Murdoch Murders podcast.

[221] She's our friend.

[222] Mandy's our friend too.

[223] And then over on Ghosted by Roz Hernandez.

[224] We love her so much.

[225] She's joined by actor, comedian and her best friend, one of the favorite people here at exactly right network, Sam Pancake.

[226] Oh, Sam Pancake.

[227] He's my birthday twin.

[228] Oh.

[229] So over on that's messed up, an SVU podcast.

[230] podcast.

[231] Kara and Lisa's guest is none other than Danny Pino who played NYPD detective Nick Amaro on four seasons of SVU.

[232] Oh, they got good guests on that show.

[233] I know.

[234] They really, that's our Patrick Cot Noir the Booker.

[235] Hell yeah.

[236] He kills it.

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[244] Let's talk about people rating and reviewing for this podcast.

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[258] Some examples of some great reviews that we've gotten lately.

[259] Nancy Girl says MFM is that warm hug with that little extra tight squeeze at the end that makes you realize you can't breathe.

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[281] Goodbye.

[282] All right, I'm going to tell you a story today that is pretty incredible.

[283] I think we talked about this a little bit, but when we went to the IHeart Radio Awards at South by Southwest this year, and I believe it was March, wasn't it?

[284] There was a podcast that won in the true crime category and that podcast is wrongfully convicted.

[285] That's a podcast that actually overturns convictions that are for wrongfully convicted people really actually takes action and doing something in this space which is so exciting.

[286] So a lot of those stories are just so overwhelmingly about how intense and impacted racial injustice is in our justice system.

[287] And sometimes I can feel very overwhelming or difficult to talk about or like, I feel like, oh, I'm not qualified to talk about it.

[288] Yeah.

[289] But the stories are important, and I felt like kind of inspired watching those guys and listening to them speak about how important these stories are, how common it is.

[290] So I'm going to tell you a story that took place in 1994 in Kansas City.

[291] So it started on April 15th, around 2 p .m. Two men, Donald Ewing, and his cousin, Daniel Quinn, are seated in a parked car.

[292] And witnesses nearby say they watched as a black man dressed in all black clothing walks down a small hill through a vacant lot up to that parked car and without warning raises a pump action shotgun to the passenger side window and fires.

[293] Holy shit.

[294] The gunman then flees back up that hill, gets into the passenger side of an older model Chevy, and they speed away.

[295] Daniel Quinn dies at the scene.

[296] He is 21 years old.

[297] He's the father of a six -month -old baby boy.

[298] 34 -year -old Donald Ewing dies later that afternoon.

[299] Wow.

[300] So a double murder investigation is opened, and the detective on that is a man named Roger Goluski.

[301] He questions the witnesses, and they include a 21 -year -old woman named Nico Quinn.

[302] Nico had been walking to her mother's house when this shooting took place, and she's actually related to both of the victims.

[303] One is her cousin, then another, it's kind of unclear, distant cousin, basically.

[304] So in her statement, Nico tells police that she could identify the shooter if she saw him again.

[305] Then police speak with a 27 -year -old witness named Ruby Mitchell.

[306] She lives near the crime scene and describes the shooter as having slicked back hair and brown skin.

[307] She says he looks like a man named Lamont that used to date her niece, but she can't remember Lamont's last name.

[308] So Detective Galuski drives Ruby to the police station and shows her a photo array of five different men.

[309] And Ruby identifies one of the photos as the shooter.

[310] And Nico later confirms that identification.

[311] The man, Lamont McIntyre, is then arrested and charged for both murders.

[312] And ultimately, he's convicted.

[313] He's handed two consecutive life sentences.

[314] When I say the man, Lamont is 17 years old.

[315] Oh, my God.

[316] And that's not the end of the story.

[317] It's actually just the beginning of Lamont's nightmare.

[318] This is the story of Lamont McIntyre's wrongful conviction and the individuals within the criminal justice system who knowingly orchestrated his imprisonment.

[319] It's so crazy to be like, that person looks like so -and -so.

[320] That's it.

[321] That's all you're going on.

[322] Yep.

[323] That is, like, what if you're trying to describe how someone looks by saying, he kind of looked like my uncle, and then they go after your uncle.

[324] You know what I mean?

[325] It's like, that doesn't, don't say.

[326] say it looks like anyone when they're questioning you.

[327] Right.

[328] And I mean, we'll get into this later, but it's that idea that when you see something as horrifying and traumatic as a double murder, a double shotgun murder in front of you, your instincts as a witness would be, I'm going to help.

[329] Right.

[330] I'm going to say what's going to get that man caught.

[331] And that very kind of like innocent motive to be a part of it gets turned on these people.

[332] And it's just, it's crazy.

[333] So the sources for today's show, a write -up on the website for the non -profit Centurion, reporting by Peggy Lowe on the Overlooked podcast produced by Kansas City MPR affiliate K -C -U -R and articles from the Kansas City Star.

[334] And the rest of the sources are in our show notes.

[335] Okay, so in 1994, Lamont McIntyre is a tall, skinny, 17 -year -old kid who dreams of becoming a comedian.

[336] Oh.

[337] He's very close with his family.

[338] works with his mother, Rosie, part -time at a restaurant called Feefe's Diner, and he's also a skilled barber.

[339] He's been cutting his friends and family's hair since he was 11 years old.

[340] On April 15th, the day that Donald and Daniel were murdered, Lamont is supposed to attend class for a GED program at a nearby college, but he decides to skip and hang out with his cousins at his aunt's house.

[341] They spend the day watching soap operas and watching movies on HBO.

[342] So basically, several members of Lamont's family live in the same neighborhood.

[343] So basically throughout the day, Lamont goes from his aunt's house back to his mom's house to another aunt's house.

[344] He's just kind of hanging out with his cousins.

[345] And at around 2 p .m., which is the time of the shootings, Lamont is on route between two of his family's homes.

[346] Those homes in that neighborhood is more than a mile away from the parking lot where Donald and Danielle are killed.

[347] Regardless, the police show up at Lamont's family members' homes that afternoon saying that they want to speak to him.

[348] They don't explain why.

[349] And so when they hear about it, Lamont and his mom, Rosie, drive down to the police station to go talk to police.

[350] Lamont had recently missed a court date regarding a drug possession charge.

[351] So he figures that that's why the officer came and that he's going to go down and get it cleared up.

[352] neither has any clue that a double homicide has taken place, much less that Lamont is currently considered a suspect in these murders.

[353] But Rosie McIntyre, Lamont's mom, is familiar with Detective Galuski, and she has seen a very dark sight of him.

[354] Galuski had aggressively pursued Rosie in the past, asking her wants to come down to the station, kind of for no reason, and then once she was there in his office, he sexually assaults her.

[355] Holy shit.

[356] But this is a well -known, powerful cop in their community, right?

[357] Rosie knows she has to keep quiet about this assault.

[358] She can't, who's she going to turn the cop into?

[359] The top cop, yeah.

[360] So even after that assault, Goluski continues to harass her for sex.

[361] Rosie always denies him, but now she's in this difficult position of having to cooperate with and trust the police department that employs her abuser.

[362] still Rosie will later say when she brought Lamont to the station that day quote I believed in the system they said give them 15 minutes and I did the next thing Rosie knows they're taking her 17 year old son into custody and they will keep him there for the next 23 years holy shit so Lamont McIntyre's murder trial takes place five months after his arrest which was incredibly fast for a murder case the trial is overseen by a judge named Jay Dexter Burdett, and the lead prosecutor is a woman named Tara Moorhead, whose case relies on Detective Golovski's investigation.

[363] And to be clear, the case is a weak one.

[364] There's no physical evidence.

[365] There's no murder weapon.

[366] There's no prints at the scene.

[367] No bloody clothes are found in Lamont's possession.

[368] In fact, there are no clothes in evidence whatsoever or any personal items belonging to any of the people involved in this case, because unbelievably, Detective Goluski didn't obtain a single search warrant during his investigation.

[369] Okay.

[370] The thing you need to go look for and find evidence.

[371] There's no evidence, and there isn't a clear motive.

[372] Lamont has no connection to either of the victims.

[373] In fact, the two eyewitnesses, Ruby Mitchell and Nico Quinn, are the prosecution's entire case.

[374] So Lamont pleads not guilty.

[375] He's actually kind of not worried.

[376] He's like, I have five witnesses who all can collaborate my eyes.

[377] alibi, and those people testify Lamont was in a different part of town with his family when these murders took place.

[378] Family members testify Lamont wasn't wearing an all -black outfit the day of the murders, which is what both witnesses said they saw the Genman wearing.

[379] But even with all of that in his favor, the defense's case goes sideways fast.

[380] Lamont's court -appointed lawyer is a man named Gary Long, and he has no experience with double homicide cases to make matters worse.

[381] at the time of Lamont's trial, Gary Long is on supervised probation for failing to properly defend three previous clients.

[382] No, that's not probation anymore.

[383] That can't be probation.

[384] I mean, it's not like there's no other lawyers.

[385] Yeah.

[386] Like, how many times?

[387] But, I mean, as I was reading Marin's research, I was just kind of like, that can't be a coincidence.

[388] No. Right.

[389] That LeMont gets one of the worst lawyers maybe that there is nearby.

[390] We don't have motive, means, or opportunity, so let's give him the fucking lawyer who can't defend him against anything.

[391] Let's give him a lawyer who's on probation for being a bad lawyer.

[392] Even still, Lamont refuses to take a plea bargain.

[393] And he would later say, quote, I was innocent.

[394] I thought the truth will come out and everything will be okay.

[395] Yeah.

[396] End quote.

[397] This double murder trial lasts four days.

[398] No. Mm -hmm.

[399] Jury comes back with the verdict.

[400] Lamont McIntyre is guilty on both counts of murder and he has given two life sentences with basically eyewitness testimony.

[401] It says like no silver lining, rough, brutal justice system story as you can get.

[402] He goes to jail and he's just in jail now.

[403] But he immediately starts writing to in essence groups including a New Jersey -based nonprofit called Centurion that investigates wrongful convictions.

[404] It was founded by a man named Jim McCluskey in 1980.

[405] And since that time, they have freed 70 wrongfully convicted men and women serving life sentences or death row sentences.

[406] Wow.

[407] Lamont reads an article about that nonprofit in a magazine in 2001.

[408] And so he sends them a letter and here is a part of that letter.

[409] Lamont says, quote, I'm 100 % innocent of the crime I'm doing time for.

[410] I've been doing my best trying to prove that.

[411] I have no money and I don't know where to go from here.

[412] So I'm asking for your help.

[413] If you could just look at my case, you would see I shouldn't be here.

[414] And Jim McCloskey reads up on this whole story, and he agrees with Lamont, he should not be in prison.

[415] So between 2009 and 2010, this is 15 years after Lamont's conviction.

[416] Jim starts traveling to Kansas City talking to these eyewitnesses, as well as the people who knew Donald, Daniel, and Lamont.

[417] and one thing becomes blatantly clear to him, and that's no one believes that Lamont committed these murders.

[418] But one name does come up when he talks to people, and that is the name of a notorious Kansas City drug dealer and convicted murderer named Cecil Brooks.

[419] So Jim goes to talk to Cecil.

[420] Cecil's in prison at the time, and he agrees to meet with Jim, and when he does, Cecil tells Jim a teenager who went by the nickname Monster is the one who actually killed Donald and Daniel, over a dispute about drugs.

[421] Cecil says he knows this because he's the one who ordered the hit.

[422] Cecil signs an affidavit confirming that all of this is true.

[423] That is unbelievable.

[424] You actually have like the criminal responsible saying this kid is innocent.

[425] Yeah.

[426] So at this point, Centurion has connected Lamont with a new lawyer who is very good at her job.

[427] Her name is Cheryl Pilot.

[428] and Jim and Cheryl are joined in this fight by a retired detective named Mark Bustle and by the Midwest Innocence Project.

[429] So their work exposes the fact that the case against Lamont is even flimsyer than anybody could have suspected.

[430] Since the prosecution's case hinged on those two eyewitnesses, Ruby Mitchell and Nico Quinn, the team goes and looks back at their testimony.

[431] Nico Quinn identified Lamont as the shooter after being shown his photograph, But she explains that she felt manipulated into making that identification.

[432] While questioning her about the murder, Niko claims Detective Roger Goulouski lied to her saying that the gunman had already been arrested and police had recovered the murder weapon.

[433] And Niko said the officer with Gouloski, quote, had his thumb on one photo as if pointing Lamont McIntyre out.

[434] Can't do that, turns out.

[435] Remember that part in making a murderer?

[436] that kind of like they laid out a photo away and they basically were like what about this guy and it's just that thing where like you see it you know it happens but the idea that in an investigation that important that you would just be like pushing this all in a certain direction that overtly it's horrible so it was only at the trial that Nico saw Lamont in person for the first time and when she saw him, she immediately knew that he was innocent.

[437] He looked nothing like the gunman that she saw that day.

[438] Dude.

[439] So before she was slated to testify, Nico told prosecutor Tara Moorehead twice that they had the wrong man. And Nico claims that Morhead told her, quote, if you don't do what we discussed, I'll throw your black ass in jail, I'll send the police to get your kids, and you'll never see them again, end quote.

[440] That is so shocking to me, a white girl from Southern California.

[441] But I don't think, unfortunately, that rare for black people who go through that on a regular basis.

[442] Yes.

[443] It's not fucking idle threat.

[444] No. It's not.

[445] No. Not in the least.

[446] It's the mark of unchecked power.

[447] It's the system that black people have been talking about for decades, if not centuries, that white people are like, there's no way that could happen.

[448] It's just isn't right.

[449] That's not our justice system.

[450] Right.

[451] It's not our justice system.

[452] Yeah, that's right.

[453] It's everyone walking out.

[454] It's the systemic race.

[455] justice system.

[456] So in the face of those threats, Niko was forced to comply with the prosecution.

[457] She perjured herself by testifying that Lamont was the shooter.

[458] And she absolutely felt like she had no choice.

[459] And then there's Ruby Mitchell, the witness, who gave Lamont's name to investigators the day of the shooting, but she couldn't think of his last name.

[460] So only one person with the name Lamont was included in the photo array that Golovsky presented.

[461] And of course that was Lamont McIntyre, they could have included multiple men with the name Lamonts and without last names and just been like, oh, here's all the Lamonts that we could find.

[462] Is it any of these people?

[463] But they didn't do that.

[464] They just had the one guy.

[465] So knowing that's his name and being like, oh, well, that's the, I guess.

[466] So not only did Goluski's five -person photo array only contained one Lamont, it included a photo of Lamont McIntyre's brother.

[467] and one of his cousins.

[468] K -CUR reports, quote, Lamont's lawyers later called that unduly suggestive, meaning police were trying to get witnesses to choose him out of the lineup.

[469] And that's what Ruby did.

[470] She looked at the photo.

[471] She identified the supposed shooter by his full name, but this is especially bizarre because Ruby and Lamont were strangers.

[472] Lamont's attorney, Cheryl, says, quote, this witness provided in a taped state, my client's last name, a man she did not know and had never heard of, which raises the very interesting question who gave her his name.

[473] So it was only after Ruby sees Lamont's photo in the photo array that she changes her initial description of the shooter's hair.

[474] And her new description now matches Lamont's hairstyle, the one he had in that photo.

[475] So not slicked back, whatever.

[476] Right.

[477] Now she's like, oh, it actually kind of looks like this, the picture you were probably.

[478] pushing toward me as I was looking at this five photo array.

[479] Then during Lamont McIntyre's trial, it comes to light that the Lamont Ruby thought she saw, the one who dated her niece, was actually a man named Lamont Drain.

[480] And she confirms this in her testimony.

[481] And these two men look nothing alike.

[482] The inconsistency alone should have tanked her reliability as a witness.

[483] But in an effort to explain it away, Tara Moorhead claims that the two Lamonts looked, quote, like identical twins.

[484] Oh, my God.

[485] They don't.

[486] And also, spoiler alert, Lamont Drain was out of town on the day of the murder, so it was a misidentification all the way around.

[487] It was no Lamonts.

[488] Yes, no Lamonts.

[489] So most people consider Ruby's contribution to be a very unfortunate mistake made by someone experiencing trauma and confusion after witnessing a double homicide.

[490] And as Cheryl Pilot points out, quote, take a person who's traumatized who's just witnessed a really horrific event, and they can be pretty easy to pressure and manipulate.

[491] For sure.

[492] And it's pretty easy to believe that they would when the person that you're talking about is Detective Roger Galovsky.

[493] Oh, dear.

[494] According to the Kansas City Star, the team investigating Lamont's case will collect, quote, more than 15 affidavits from criminals and their cronies to police that point to the detective Roger Galovsky using terms like crooked and dirty, end quote.

[495] Among other terrible things, Goluski's accused of using his position of authority to pressure black women and girls into having sex with him.

[496] A retired FBI agent named Alan Jennerich investigated Golovsky for several years, and he says in one of these affidavits, quote, as my investigation uncovered, he used the authority of his position to extort sexual favors from black females.

[497] These women complied with his demands because they knew they would be arrested if they said no. The women were powerless, and Galuski exploited them, end quote.

[498] And Ruby Mitchell would be one of these women.

[499] As Centurion writes in their report, quote, Ruby had a reason to fear him and succumb to his influence in identifying Lamont McIntyre as the shooter.

[500] So when Ruby Mitchell was going to go give her witness statement, Goulowski goes and picks her up and drives her to the station.

[501] And so she testifies that on that drive, he made sexual advances toward her, made her feel super uncomfortable, very pressure.

[502] And like, so now you're just in the situation where you're just trying to help a crime.

[503] You're just trying to help some victims.

[504] But suddenly, somebody's basically threatening you.

[505] It's just the grossest, like, it's exploitation of power in every possible direction.

[506] So this story is as much about who the police and prosecutors leave.

[507] out of the case, as it is who they decided to include in it.

[508] The biggest one, prosecutor Tara Moorhead, never reveals that she once had been in a relationship with Judge Burdette.

[509] You can't do that.

[510] It was a short relationship.

[511] It was long over by the time Lamont's trial began, but it is still a humongous conflict of interest and one that one of the two parties should have definitely admitted to and then recuse themselves.

[512] from the case over.

[513] 100%.

[514] Another big omission, Josephine Quinn, Nico's mom, was also a witness to the murder.

[515] She was basically where Nico was same day, same time.

[516] And during the investigation, Detective Galovsky interviewed her and showed her the same photo array of the five men, but Josephine told him it's none of these men.

[517] At one point, Josephine even went down to the courthouse to see if her testimony might be useful.

[518] Tara Moore had told her no. It would not.

[519] But at the courthouse, when Josephine saw Lamont McIntyre for the first time, she went and told Moorhead, you have the wrong guy.

[520] But Moorhead ignored her concerns saying, quote, it's in the jury's hands now.

[521] Yeah, after we gave them everything against him.

[522] Right.

[523] And also, this is a witness.

[524] Like, they pick one witness over the other.

[525] Yeah, the one they want.

[526] Dirty.

[527] It's just outright cheating all the way down.

[528] Totally.

[529] And then there's Stacey Quinn, Josephine's daughter, Niko's sister.

[530] Stacey actually had the closest view of the murder more than any other witness she was the closest to the crime scene she was never interviewed by police Cheryl Pilot will later write in a legal filing quote the failure of detectives to interview Stacey is inexplicable but it's actually no mystery why Stacey was left out officially she was marked by detectives as being quote not available but as one of her family members noted in an affidavit quote most everyone in the family knew that Stacey Stacey Quinn had been having a sexual relationship with Detective Gavluski since the mid -80s when Stacey was 16 or 17 years old.

[531] Gouloski would have been in his late 20s, early 30s at the time.

[532] And in a position of power.

[533] Yes.

[534] Oh, my God.

[535] But even still, Stacey tries to share what she knows.

[536] Just two years after Lamont's conviction in 1996, Stacey testifies at a hearing where a judge weighs the facts of whether or not.

[537] not Lamont received a fair trial.

[538] Stacey testifies that she's certain of Lamont's innocence, but the judge at this hearing is incredibly Judge Burdette.

[539] Okay.

[540] So Judge Burdett is supposed to decide whether or not his own trial was okay.

[541] Right, right, right, right.

[542] According to the Kansas City star, Judge Burdett writes Stacey's testimony off.

[543] He reportedly says, quote, she is a felon.

[544] She's a habitual drug user, end quote.

[545] He ultimately refused.

[546] is to give Lamont a new trial.

[547] So a decade later, it's 2016.

[548] Cheryl Pilot files a new motion to vacate Lamont's conviction.

[549] She includes all the affidavits her team is collected.

[550] And in response, an evidentiary hearing on Lamont's case takes place in October of 2017.

[551] At this point, Lamont McIntyre has been behind bars for over 20 years.

[552] But at this hearing, there's a new judge presiding, God bless.

[553] He listens to witness after witness, including members of Donald U .N. and Daniel Quinn's families all testifying that they believe that Lamont McIntyre is innocent.

[554] Oh, my God.

[555] One day later, after 23 years behind bars, the judge vacates Lamont's conviction.

[556] The now 41 -year -old Lamont McIntyre is a free man. The first thing he says, after 23 years behind bars, is, quote, it's nice outside.

[557] From 17 to 41.

[558] In prison for something you have literally nothing to do with.

[559] So this awful story shows just how brutal our criminal justice system is and the reality of the many bad actors who populate it.

[560] Cops who are themselves criminals, prosecutors who are hell -bent on winning cases no matter what.

[561] And all leaves the accused extremely vulnerable and their rights.

[562] And as Shell Pilot once said, quote, other than the 20 minutes of taped interview for my witnesses, there was very little else in Lamont's case.

[563] Someone can go to prison for the rest of their life because of a total of 20 taped minutes.

[564] 20 minutes and they never got a search warrant.

[565] They didn't find the weapon.

[566] There's no evidence.

[567] And they didn't do the one step past a photo array of how about you look at these people in real life.

[568] Totally.

[569] But I mean, all of that is we're arguing it like they had intention to be fair or to do anything.

[570] Clearly there was an agenda here.

[571] Sure.

[572] So for years, these bad actors who engineered Lamont's conviction face no consequences.

[573] Detective Galovsky remains a detective.

[574] Tara Moorhead is promoted to a federal prosecutor's job.

[575] No, please.

[576] But Lamont McIntyre's fight for freedom eventually brings them both to justice.

[577] Yes.

[578] And it just happened a few months ago.

[579] No. In April of 2024.

[580] Oh, my God.

[581] The Kansas Supreme Court issues an order of disbarment against Tara Moorhead.

[582] after she surrenders her law license.

[583] She is no longer prosecuting cases.

[584] And according to KC