358 - Atlanta & Noah Gragson: Is Dirty Driving The New Way?

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[1] Should we just go back to being assholes?

[2] Yeah, that's what we are, right?

[3] Let's continue being an asshole.

[4] I am probably closer to Tommy than anybody else in the sport.

[5] What the fuck are you talking about?

[6] I think the two of you definitely have being assholes coverage.

[7] Who can really be a bitch when they want to be a bitch?

[8] That was the first person to come to mind.

[9] I try to stay calm.

[10] Here's what pisses me off about that.

[11] What is that supposed to mean?

[12] Exactly what I said.

[13] Did I start?

[14] Who are you?

[15] Who are you?

[16] Well, fuck it.

[17] I guess we'll just go back to being ourselves.

[18] Yeah, we'll buckle up because you might get your feelings hurt.

[19] Yo, what's up, everybody?

[20] Welcome to Door Bumper Clear.

[21] I'm Freddy Crafts, spotter for Bubba Wallace.

[22] Hello, Thomas.

[23] Tommy Baldwin, competition director at Rick Ware Racing.

[24] That was it for the week.

[25] Didn't have to do anything else.

[26] No crew chief or anything else, but yeah.

[27] Carson Elledge, a little bit of everything at the Cars Tour still as of last week.

[28] And we have a special guest today.

[29] I'm excited about this one.

[30] We got Noah Gregson with us.

[31] Noah?

[32] Janitor, FRM.

[33] Okay.

[34] Janitor and FRM.

[35] How you been, Noah?

[36] It's been a couple years since you came and joined us.

[37] Last time, I think we had a bit of a shit show last time we were on.

[38] So let's try to, not you, us.

[39] We did that ourselves.

[40] But how you been?

[41] I'm good.

[42] I definitely...

[43] Haven't been winning as much as last time I saw you on the show.

[44] So I thought about it last night.

[45] I was like, I saw you getting towed off and I was like, he's going to be in a bad mood tomorrow now.

[46] But you're actually not.

[47] You actually showed up.

[48] You're chipper.

[49] I don't know what the hell you're drinking.

[50] It looks.

[51] It looks like pee.

[52] Yeah, it does look.

[53] Yeah, everyone said it's a lime, sugar -free energy from clutch coffee.

[54] So some changes for you this year.

[55] Obviously went from Stuart Haas over to front row.

[56] How's that been?

[57] It's been good, just pretty seamless transition for me. I brought my crew chief, Drew, and interior guy and a couple other guys from the Stuart Haas number 10 team.

[58] So they had all my measurements.

[59] It was pretty seamless for me. They had, you know, getting the charter stuff and the haulers over and all the equipment took a little bit longer than we would have expected.

[60] Once we got to Daytona, we were in a much better place than what we thought we were a month before.

[61] Speaking of seamless transitions and people you brought with you from Stuart Haas, there's somebody that I think fits you like a glove.

[62] That's Rusty Rush.

[63] A lot of people don't know Rusty.

[64] Can you just figure out a way to describe Rusty in a few words?

[65] Rusty is one of the most interesting people I've ever met in my entire life.

[66] Such a smart guy.

[67] He doesn't save any phone numbers in his phone.

[68] He memorizes every phone number and he can tell you your phone number after looking at it once.

[69] He's really, really calculated with numbers.

[70] And he obviously leads more than 8 ,000 people with Rush Truck Center.

[71] So he's built up a huge business and he's an unbelievable leader.

[72] Crazy.

[73] He drinks tequila all day long.

[74] He always has, when he lands, he sent me the picture of him with a Calvary cowboy hat on and he calls it his Calvary hat.

[75] And then he's got, he's shirtless.

[76] He's ripped.

[77] He's like 65 standing on his PJ with his arms crossed and said, Hey, bitch, I'm coming up.

[78] Come see you.

[79] I landed 1230.

[80] If you know Rusty, that's that's so rusty.

[81] I met Rusty with Clint.

[82] I don't know about how many years ago.

[83] Rusty travels with a case, not a bottle, a case of her.

[84] They're a tequila at tequila tequila.

[85] And when he opens the bottle.

[86] He takes the cap and throws it about as far as he could because you're never putting the cap back on the bottle.

[87] Well, that's after he's done with the bottle because the reason why he likes Horadora tequila is because the cap is a shot glass.

[88] So he doesn't need to bring shot glasses around with him.

[89] So he drinks so much tequila that we were down in Daytona and went to dinner with him.

[90] And he's like, all right, let's pull over and wait till we got about 30 minutes till we got to go to dinner.

[91] Our reservation will.

[92] oh, this one's a sweet one right here.

[93] He can tell, man, this is a sweet batch.

[94] Different batches.

[95] I'm like, it all tastes the same to me. All that sugar, he's not tasting anything.

[96] Does he still bring his blow dart?

[97] Yeah, blow dart gone.

[98] So I went and visited him.

[99] It was myself.

[100] Chase Briscoe and Tony Stewart, we went out and visited his ranch, and he's got over 11 ,000 acres in Texas, and I can't tell too much, but this guy is insane.

[101] But he was driving around.

[102] I pulled out the blow dart gun.

[103] I was sitting in the passenger seat, and we're moving, and I shot this jackrabbit with it, and then we get out.

[104] Rusty's like, where is that thing?

[105] And it ran over to the other side of the...

[106] He's got Escalades, and he drives them around like they're...

[107] Like farm trucks?

[108] Polaris Razors, like around the property, you know, like a side by side.

[109] And the whole left side of this thing's beat up because he'll park it in front of this gate.

[110] And I can't say too much.

[111] We were at Oyster Pub one night.

[112] Just he's there.

[113] We're all hanging out.

[114] And he's like, hey, let's go outside.

[115] We just go out to the street.

[116] He opens the back of his Escalade and he pulls out this blow dart gun.

[117] He's like, let's shoot this pole over here.

[118] And, you know, like around the Oyster Pub, it's just there's cops everywhere.

[119] And the cop just walks up.

[120] He's standing there.

[121] He's like, the fuck are you guys doing?

[122] I think we got to put this away at this point.

[123] I'll try and find the pictures from the trip.

[124] The trip was unbelievable.

[125] So he.

[126] We landed right there on his property.

[127] He's got a landing strip or a runway for the plane.

[128] We land right there.

[129] He picks us up in this basically F -450 Ford pickup truck with a pontoon boat essentially on the top that he drives from up top.

[130] I've got to find this picture.

[131] It's unbelievable.

[132] When I tell you, Megan called me one day, and she's like, oh, we're over here, and we're with Clint, and we met one of his sponsors, and I'm like, Which sponsor?

[133] And she's like, oh, some guy named Rusty.

[134] And I'm like, oh, no. That's me with the blow dart gun and the jackrabbit.

[135] And so he doesn't, he calls the windshield wipers rabbit holder.

[136] So I'll put the rabbits on there.

[137] I've never seen a more fitting sponsor driver combination.

[138] So this is when we landed.

[139] Here he is coming down the.

[140] Top of this truck.

[141] He is the best.

[142] Yeah, Rusty coming down.

[143] He drives it from up top.

[144] Yeah, he drives it from up top.

[145] I mean, it was unbelievable.

[146] And just good time bonding out there.

[147] So I killed my first buck, which was super cool.

[148] And he was doubting me. And then I started asking him questions.

[149] About the hunting and everything.

[150] He's like, man, I thought you were a dumbass this whole time.

[151] Well, he's not wrong.

[152] Looking like a goofy bugger walking up here.

[153] Turns out you're a lot smarter than you look, boy.

[154] That's exactly your image.

[155] Exactly.

[156] He's the best.

[157] So front row, obviously, I've got a bunch of buddies over there.

[158] I've worked with Drew before in the past.

[159] He hates you.

[160] I know.

[161] You can't stand me. All those guys hate you.

[162] Everybody.

[163] That's good.

[164] I hope they do.

[165] It's fine.

[166] I'm kidding.

[167] So this year, going into this year, obviously, new deal, new team.

[168] What's a successful season look like for you this year, you think?

[169] Well, we're not off to a very good start right now.

[170] They led laps at Daytona, and I felt like we put ourselves in a decent position to have an opportunity to duke it out for the win.

[171] And then Recchi made a bad block on Logano, and we all wrecked.

[172] So that sucked and didn't get any stage points there, which was a bummer.

[173] So I think I have 13 points.

[174] You got more than Briscoe.

[175] Yeah, but I mean, I wrecked yesterday.

[176] Was that the chase wreck?

[177] That was the Suarez.

[178] So he was coming back up the racetrack and clipped me in the left rear through the triable.

[179] So that was a bummer.

[180] And then I was kind of bummed out after the race.

[181] Like, damn, you're just at such a deficit when you start going to these real race.

[182] I don't want to say real racetracks, but.

[183] Your Phoenix's and Vegas's were qualifying so important.

[184] The metric system on where you're at in points, your fastest lap from the week before, and then your finish.

[185] With that metric system, going out later and qualifying, we've seen you don't want to be the first handful of cars, right?

[186] So you just put yourself at a big detriment going into those weekends than if you start the season out on the right foot.

[187] So I think what would be a successful year is, I mean, we obviously have goals and that's, and we prepare to try and win every race throughout the week.

[188] But sometimes you just don't have what it, the car, things aren't going as good.

[189] So just managing the opportunity that we have and minimizing the mistakes and maximizing the opportunity that we have is really the goals I have.

[190] And we're over two right now to start the year out of two.

[191] Yeah.

[192] So it's not going great, but.

[193] I feel really confident and comfortable with the team that we got right now.

[194] We had a few guys, like I mentioned earlier, come over from Stuart Haas, and then we were able to get some new guys in the shop and on the team from going over to the four car.

[195] We got a lot of energy.

[196] Our car chief, Joey, he's awesome.

[197] He came from Legacy.

[198] He was up on Eric Jones' car last year.

[199] And I worked with him.

[200] I was on the 42, but he was on Eric's car.

[201] So I knew him a little bit.

[202] And we just got a really, really good team that all believes in each other.

[203] And this is the first time that I really feel since I was here at Junior Motorsports that we have a team that will go to war with each other and truly, truly has each other's back and has a lot of energy and confidence when we show up.

[204] Before we get into this week, I have to give a shout -out to the Gregson Fan Club, my buddies, DeRosa, Pedrotti.

[205] How are those clowns doing?

[206] I have not gotten to see them yet this year.

[207] They love you.

[208] They love you.

[209] So everybody thinks they're my uncles.

[210] I think Dave introduced me as this.

[211] Yeah, they call themselves as my uncles, but no, they were fraternity brothers from my dad back in college up at UNR.

[212] So they're good dudes, and they like to tear it up and party.

[213] They are.

[214] You guys have had.

[215] I haven't been there for most of the fun.

[216] Usually it's the night before the race, a Saturday night, and you guys are all tearing it up, whether it's in Pensacola or wherever it is.

[217] But they absolutely love it.

[218] And we've got a really fun group that comes to the racetrack.

[219] Yeah, the two of them, it's something when you get around those guys.

[220] Seems like you attract a lot of those people.

[221] It happens.

[222] So Pedrotti.

[223] is a captain of, this might be a touchy subject right now, but he's a captain for Delta Airlines.

[224] But he's actually very, very good at his job.

[225] He hasn't landed one on his lid yet.

[226] Anyhow, Thomas, how was your race yesterday, should I ask?

[227] Well, we got involved in the same wreck with the 51 as Noah did, and man, that thing hit hard.

[228] No, Cody.

[229] Yeah, Cody.

[230] I mean, I looked at the front clip.

[231] That was probably the most crushed front clip I've ever seen.

[232] He's going to be a little sore today for sure.

[233] I'm going to check on him here in a little bit.

[234] But, yeah, I mean, Corey was doing well.

[235] He was running in the top 20 when he got wrecked there.

[236] I think he had a good car.

[237] You know the deal, Noah.

[238] I mean, it was crazy.

[239] The dirty air was just absolutely insane yesterday.

[240] I mean, you could try to do something, then the air would just stop you.

[241] Have to lift on exit.

[242] I mean, look at Ross.

[243] He ran in the mid -pack all day and couldn't ever get forward, and then he got track position.

[244] I think it...

[245] midway through the third stage, and he stayed up there for the rest of the race for the most part.

[246] You had to fight your ass off all day to stay up there in order to stay up there.

[247] We were up front for most of it, the first two stages.

[248] We got stage points.

[249] I think we were fourth and second in two stages, but to get stage points in the second one, we had to stay out when a lot of guys flipped it, and then once we got back into, like, I don't even know where we started, 20th or 22nd, something like that.

[250] we were a different car.

[251] It was like two numbers tighter, just in traffic.

[252] Like six.

[253] Yeah.

[254] But it's just, you know, it was crazy.

[255] And I heard a lot of guys talk about it.

[256] You know, like my car's driving fine, but Lugano talked about once he got shuffled back, it's like you have to have your car set up because you want to be good when you're leading.

[257] But if you're not leading, you're just going to be dump truck tight for the rest of the day.

[258] Yeah, I mean, I think it contributes to the track getting more wore out because there's not as much grip.

[259] And obviously the cars are losing grip.

[260] when there's 30 air so um yeah it was uh it was interesting to see the difference between the last race there to to yesterday the difference of the handle in the cars there wasn't as many comers and goers you know um but yeah i thought the you started up front you had a good quality yeah we started 10th and threw out the anchor right away i was super tight to start the race and what's weird about that place is I was like super good on the bottom through one and two.

[261] And if I could hook the line on exit, almost like old Atlanta, how you'd hook the line with your left sides, I could stay on the line all the way on exit, full throttle, so much more throttle time.

[262] When I get to the second or third lane off of two, extremely tight.

[263] And I feel like it loses bang.

[264] I just don't feel as compressed in the racetrack when I go to the second and third lane, which is really weird.

[265] Like it's almost like.

[266] The bottom lane has more banking, and then as you move up the racetrack, it has less for whatever reason.

[267] But you have to be in that outside line, too, down the straightaway to keep the draft.

[268] So it's definitely a chess match out there.

[269] Yeah, it was an interesting weekend at the racetrack.

[270] I'm sure we'll get into some of the Xfinity stuff later on.

[271] So how was it?

[272] I mean, you just kind of got stuck mid -pack and then just got collected in somebody else's mess, basically.

[273] Yeah, we...

[274] Finished 10th in the second stage and then pitted when all those guys flipped it to start the third stage.

[275] And we were mid -pack.

[276] And then I think a couple restarts later is when Suarez's wreck was and just got collected.

[277] How's your spotter?

[278] New spotter, new guy on the roof.

[279] Yeah, Nick DelCampo.

[280] He's doing a great job.

[281] You know, there's little things that we're working on each and every week when situations arise.

[282] And it's like, oh.

[283] Did a really good job here.

[284] Maybe try this differently.

[285] But he has definitely impressed us coming into the year with a new spotter, never spotting a NASCAR much, at least for a contending car throughout the whole race.

[286] He's doing a phenomenal job, in my opinion.

[287] He stood next to me at a...

[288] Bowman Gray, and luckily your heat race wasn't eventful at all.

[289] I was like, this poor kid hasn't stopped talking yet.

[290] Yeah, he's a new guy.

[291] Brandon, you've probably never even seen him before.

[292] He's been really good on the driver prep side and putting together clips and film and all the data for pre -race stuff and looking at that and talking together.

[293] So he's really valuable in that department as well as he's a pretty good spotter.

[294] He hasn't put us in.

[295] any bad positions i feel with you and your team drew's really good at calling races right and the focus of the team if get to the point that it's time for him to make those good decisions he's gonna put you in a good spot you know so it's uh he's always seemed to, at the end of the race, get his cars where they need to be for the drivers to take advantage of the situation.

[296] He's one that's never been afraid to kind of go off script.

[297] You know what I mean?

[298] There's guys that are going to just keep doing the same thing everybody else does.

[299] And Drew, we had him at Petty with Bubba, and I had him at Front Row, I think, or maybe it was the year before Petty.

[300] He's just always been one that just always makes – seems like always makes the right calls.

[301] He may be a little bit risky at times, but it always seems to work out for him.

[302] Yeah, he's pretty realistic too, I feel like, where he doesn't get caught up in all the drama.

[303] He's got a good 30 ,000 -foot view on, hey, this is the risk that we're willing to take, but it's not a super, super risky move.

[304] But he's – Been really good for me. I enjoy him.

[305] He's almost like a big brother to myself.

[306] As long as you have that in your head, that belief is there, and you know that he's going to, by the end of the day, have you in good position, you won't need to make any crazy moves or dumb mistakes, right?

[307] So that will come in time.

[308] The only time was that I hope he watches this because – Let's talk shit about him.

[309] The only time he's made a bad call and – Wait, hold on.

[310] You're flushing the poor guy?

[311] Yeah, I'm flushing him right here.

[312] So he's cooked right now.

[313] He gave a response.

[314] We're good.

[315] At Martinsville in the fall last year, he called me to Pit Road, but it was like half a car length before I was at the box, so I wasn't going to make it, so I stayed out.

[316] We ended up getting, like, stage points and keeping the track position.

[317] We were, like, on my shoulder tire.

[318] And so I'm like, he thinks I, like, purposely stayed out, but I was never going to make it.

[319] He won't admit that he knew the call was late.

[320] But I ended up staying out, and we ended up benefiting from it.

[321] So it was good.

[322] In his defense, that place is always the fastest to go to Pitt Road Open, and we can't see.

[323] It's the hardest thing to judge because it's always the quickest to get the – you know, Martin's the shortest track.

[324] It's always the fastest.

[325] So once that caution comes out, we all know we need to make the decisions right then and there.

[326] We can't, like, think about it for a lap, right?

[327] Because pit road's on, boom, you're already on pit road.

[328] So, yeah, that place is very deceiving on that part to be able to make a quick decision as a crew chief.

[329] Take me into the crew chief side of it, Tommy.

[330] Obviously, you were a crew chief for – I don't know, 600 years.

[331] Last week.

[332] Last week when they got all kicked out.

[333] But where is the fine line of, like, you want to be aggressive, you want to make aggressive calls, you want to get your guys in position, but obviously you can go overboard at some point.

[334] How do you manage that from the box?

[335] Well, obviously you've got to understand what you're doing with the air, the clean air, you know, versus the tire where you're at.

[336] I mean, that's the whole thought process.

[337] And the fuel, right?

[338] You have to make sure you can't.

[339] Don't have to stop 20 laps before anybody or have 30, 40 laps more on your tires, you know, at certain places.

[340] So, you know, while they're out there running, we're just not watching the race.

[341] You know, we're making sure what the next plan is and what we got to do.

[342] And it takes, you know, no one knows this.

[343] It takes probably.

[344] the first stage to really understand who you're going to race the rest of the race, right?

[345] And then the position you're probably going to be in if you don't make any mistakes or somebody like Drew bails you out and gets you to the next group of cars.

[346] I mean, because it goes in steps, right?

[347] You have the top eight, you have eighth through 15th, you have 15th or 24th, and you have the rest of the guys that are just carving.

[348] Trying to stay on the lead line of that first run.

[349] The hardest thing about cup racing is when you qualify not in that top group.

[350] So at most of these tracks, just staying on the lead lap for that first run, if you can stay on the lead lap for the first run, you get a chance to work on it.

[351] That's the biggest.

[352] That determines how your whole rest of the day is going to go.

[353] It's so challenging to pass, as you know.

[354] So it's a long day if you're going a lap down early, especially at a place like Martinsville or Bristol.

[355] Having a bit of a buffer is super key.

[356] The problem is you're always starting in the back.

[357] And 30 laps, you're getting caught again.

[358] I always say they should have a separate TV channel from 24th on back so they would see one hell of a race.

[359] I remember when I was spotting for you, that was where we lived.

[360] We were scratching and clawing.

[361] Yesterday from 20th on back, 18th on back, was intense.

[362] We were three wide.

[363] Guys were dicing it up all day long.

[364] We racked with like 60 to go.

[365] And...

[366] I was like, man, the race out front is nothing like how it was mid -pack all day where I was.

[367] So it's pretty interesting.

[368] HBO, is it HBO Max?

[369] The Max, yeah.

[370] Yeah, that's pretty cool where you can see all the in -car and stuff now.

[371] It's an audio.

[372] You can get, yeah.

[373] They're burning us on that audio thing.

[374] The spotters are having a rough time lately.

[375] Yeah, well, I mean, you guys are overpaid, and now it's finally overpaid.

[376] Kiss my ass.

[377] How much do you get paid to be on Radioactive?

[378] None.

[379] Nothing to be on radio.

[380] Really?

[381] You don't get any points?

[382] Why do you try so hard to get on there?

[383] I actually get SAP.

[384] Spotter ambassador points.

[385] God, if they did an implicit program for y 'all, we'd be screwed.

[386] The one thing, I saw Tim's going nuts about this.

[387] Tim, you got a microphone in there?

[388] Yeah, I'm here.

[389] Tim was going nuts about this on Twitter last night.

[390] Commercials.

[391] What was up with commercials last night?

[392] I timed it.

[393] From the restart to the next commercial was four and a half minutes.

[394] Is that a lot?

[395] I think so.

[396] It was like five laps of racing.

[397] And they missed a shit ton of cautions, too.

[398] I think the first four cautions they missed, it was crazy.

[399] And then even when they...

[400] were actually on the air.

[401] They did like a Toyota all out or whatever, and there was a caution.

[402] So it's just like they missed everything.

[403] It was crazy.

[404] You couldn't get in any rhythm watching the race.

[405] So we gave him props last week.

[406] I missed that.

[407] Sorry.

[408] I didn't see that.

[409] I mean, you probably should have saw the second half.

[410] So we gave him props last week, and now this week they went and fucked it up, huh?

[411] Yeah.

[412] All right.

[413] Well, do better, Fox.

[414] Come on.

[415] Since we're getting opinionated, I guess we could roll into some spot on, spot off.

[416] Unless y 'all have any closing thoughts from Atlanta?

[417] Tommy, a couple things from you, just on the technical side of things.

[418] I know we had a lot of guys fail tech on Friday.

[419] A lot.

[420] 20 -something guys, right?

[421] 24.

[422] We failed for expired window net by two months, and then we waited another four hours to roll back through, and one of the lead officials said, If I would have known that, I would have let you just change it right there because we passed everything else, but we failed before we even rolled out of the garage.

[423] We dealt with the same thing.

[424] Our headrest wasn't certified.

[425] We sent it out to get it powder -coated and somehow it fell through the loop of not getting back to the seat company to get certified.

[426] But I was like...

[427] We passed everything.

[428] I was like, no way.

[429] I am not going through this line again.

[430] Tommy just didn't want a crew chief.

[431] No, no. Well, that too.

[432] But what it was, we got there at what, 1130?

[433] Well, they got to our car at 330.

[434] 1130 on Friday.

[435] Friday.

[436] Yes.

[437] Four hours, we did not see one official.

[438] For four hours.

[439] So we got through tech, just like Noah said, no problems, both cars.

[440] But we had a safety violation.

[441] And finally, like, I went and got the head guy and said, look, I rolled the car back.

[442] We didn't, you know, and they work with us.

[443] I'm like, I don't have a headrest.

[444] I have to send somebody from the shop.

[445] Halfway, we got to go pick it up.

[446] So what do you want to do?

[447] We're going to have to go through this tomorrow.

[448] And he's like, give me a minute.

[449] So he's like, all right, we approved everything.

[450] And we put the shocks on.

[451] But it was a. So, I mean, with 24 guys failing, was it just nitpicky stuff?

[452] Well, yes.

[453] So NASCAR, on one of the platforms, they decided after last week they were going to put all brand new tops on their platform.

[454] So obviously the wear and tear of the – So everybody – NASCAR's biggest thing is, well, we give you a tolerance, right?

[455] And you make sure you use every bit of that.

[456] Yeah, we understand it.

[457] But when you change that tolerance and don't tell us – You know, some guys fell for some rear height stuff.

[458] And there's a reason why we go as high as we possibly can for places like Atlanta and Daytona and Talladega, you know, for spoil angle type situations for tech.

[459] And, you know, some guys fell there.

[460] And this was really the first time out of the three races that we went before practice.

[461] Right.

[462] So.

[463] There's so many tolerance.

[464] I mean, NASCAR has a tolerance difference between their machine and Concorde that we allowed to go to, to the track.

[465] To the one track.

[466] So it's very...

[467] It's a guess.

[468] It's a pain in the ass, to be honest with you.

[469] You know, I tell everybody, sometimes on Fridays, I just go back to the hotel and cry.

[470] You know, it's a...

[471] I don't believe you.

[472] Yeah, no, really.

[473] But back in the day, you only had one of those a year, the Daytona 500.

[474] You had to sweat.

[475] You know, tech, right?

[476] It's every single week because you have no idea what's going to happen.

[477] No idea.

[478] But, yeah, I mean, it keeps everybody in line, I guess.

[479] Well, luckily, you had plenty of time at the racetrack this week.

[480] Oh, yeah.

[481] We were there for three days for one lap.

[482] And then we ran half the race, and then we loaded up and went home.

[483] It was great.

[484] At least it was a short drive.

[485] The schedule is awesome.

[486] This is a good schedule.

[487] You were home eating Oreos before I took off last night.

[488] Yeah, we wrecked.

[489] Both cars wrecked.

[490] Oh, that's right.

[491] Both cars wrecked.

[492] That's why.

[493] We got on our plane, and boom, we were going.

[494] All right, Carson, let's go.

[495] Are you guys ready now?

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[500] Spot on.

[501] Spot on.

[502] Did you want to go first on this one?

[503] I think he's a whiny bitch.

[504] That's what I think.

[505] Send it.

[506] Why me?

[507] All right, number one, William Byron and Austin Sendrick wreck racing with Kyle Larson for the lead with four to go, setting up overtime.

[508] Sendrick obviously was not thrilled.

[509] That's how you said that?

[510] What?

[511] She's going to fucking hit you.

[512] What are you talking about?

[513] That's not even how it went.

[514] That's what Alex put on the sheet.

[515] So yell at Alex.

[516] Did you watch it?

[517] Yes, I fucking watched it.

[518] Did the five car wreck the two?

[519] The five car, if you would have just let me go, I have two more lines if you would just let me finish.

[520] Thank you.

[521] Go ahead.

[522] Well, how did you see it?

[523] The five car wrecked the two, then the 24, I had no, arrow push, I guess.

[524] They all wrecked together.

[525] All right, so I guess Tommy's spot off on that.

[526] Well, he's spot on for the statement that the five wrecked the two.

[527] Yeah, okay.

[528] Spot off for the way I said it, apparently.

[529] I really didn't, you were out already, I assume, at this point.

[530] Yeah, I was watching it.

[531] I mean, what did you think?

[532] I mean, the five, like, listen, Larson is one of the best out there of putting you in a spot where you need to lift.

[533] He's just one of them guys that can crowd you.

[534] He can run you out of room and make you lift.

[535] This just looked like a complete misjudgment to me. I don't think he was being told clear, because I never saw a point where he was ever really clear to keep moving up, and he just kind of ran the two on the fence at some point.

[536] Yeah, he's been on the...

[537] other side of things with Denny at Pocono, right, and other races, but the way I saw it is the five was, it's obviously four laps to go, so he's trying to clear himself up and make something that's not there, but if he gets clear and he gets a shove, then he probably wins the race.

[538] Yeah, so, but I think the two bounces off the wall as well.

[539] The 24's tight.

[540] Even if the two runs right up against the wall on exit and doesn't come down that half car width, they're probably side by side and door banging off the corner.

[541] But with the two bouncing off the wall and coming back down right there, I think it's just a misjudgment on both sides.

[542] But had that been lap 40, yeah, there's no excuse.

[543] But with it being the end of the race, I get every side of...

[544] things you know guys aren't willing to lift it's just aggravating because the two car ran up front all day right never touched anybody same as last week i mean just it's racing everybody clean i mean obviously look you you can tell that the five car got tight there lifted and he definitely fenced the two yeah i mean just but like you said like Byron also, like, no matter what happens with the two, the Byron's just going to drive in inside of him.

[545] Byron just said, we got to get the five to win.

[546] I'm just going to clean this guy out.

[547] I'm going to finish him off.

[548] Watch.

[549] Oh, yeah, yeah, you're done.

[550] Yeah, I'm going to send you.

[551] And, oops, I didn't mean to send myself.

[552] Oh, man. Yeah, it just looked like a, I mean, it's a, like you said, four to go.

[553] Everybody's going for it.

[554] I think it's racing.

[555] Yeah.

[556] At that point, you still got to, like, Larson's just hoping to get him to lift right there, just carry him off the racetrack and hope to get him to lift.

[557] And, unfortunately, The two just carried it straight to the fans.

[558] Like you said, Sendrick, the poor guy, two races in a row, he's probably dominated, probably led, I don't know if he led the most laps yesterday, and he's got absolutely nothing to show for it.

[559] So a shame for him.

[560] I know Danny was calling him the best plate racer we've got these days, and he showed it again yesterday.

[561] And unfortunately, that's the end.

[562] All the Penske guys are good.

[563] I mean, for Blaney to spin and come back up through the field and finish, what, fourth?

[564] Fourth, yeah.

[565] They controlled that race yesterday.

[566] And there's points in the race where we got on the bottom and followed, like I think it was the two and the 22, and they just dragged us, the whole bottom line, right to third, and then they got clear, went to the top, and we went right to the back.

[567] I was like, oh, okay, I figured out where the horses are now.

[568] All right, this is a little deja vu with some caution situations.

[569] Christopher Bell wins after NASCAR throws a caution on the final lap while the leaders were entering turn three.

[570] Spot on, spot off.

[571] ready so i'm gonna ask noah this because i asked bubba this last week and he really didn't have a great answer and i don't i don't know i don't expect you to have a great answer like what what do you want them to do like do you want to be driving through a wreck trying to race back to the line or do you just want to throw the yellow when the when there's an incident yes but it's the same answer bubba yes but the consistency of it yes i almost messaged in the group chat Good morning, are we racing back to the checkers today, or are we ending it under caution?

[572] Because you don't know, because it's been different every week, right?

[573] And we saw it down at Daytona.

[574] I understand they're in a tough position, but it's just the inconsistency is what we fear as drivers.

[575] I mean, does Carson Josevar make that move if he knows the caution's coming out?

[576] Probably not.

[577] He probably shoves a five.

[578] But he thinks we're racing back to the checkers because in the driver's meeting, they said we're racing.

[579] We have every intent to race back to the checkers.

[580] But they're in a tough position, and I understand that.

[581] But we would just like to see more consistency on, hey, throw the caution every time.

[582] I did see a tweet yesterday, last night when I was on the plane, and this is going to open up a whole other can of worms.

[583] Even if you're on the white flag, just call the caution and have another green -white checker.

[584] Finish it under green.

[585] If you're going to call the caution and turn three, then you have opportunity.

[586] You know, hey, we're going to get another shot at it and guys aren't going to be wrecking into each other.

[587] But when you don't know if the caution's coming or not, you have to hold it wide open and sometimes you're going to plow through someone or you're going to get through unscathed and everything's going to be okay.

[588] It's a disaster waiting to happen.

[589] Yeah, and listen, we've said on here forever, like, same thing.

[590] We want consistency.

[591] We thought we were starting to get it because they threw the yellow way too early on Thursday at that duel.

[592] I thought that was an unnecessary one, but then that put them in a box where I felt like the rest of the weekend they were never going to throw yellow at the end of the race, which they didn't at the end of the 500.

[593] Then they don't throw the yellow on Saturday, and we're all...

[594] piling through a wreck half the field and you're like okay i guess we're just gonna this is what we're gonna do now like we're just gonna race back to the yellow and i think i think that would be fine if everybody knew that was what's coming but then saturday sunday they put out in the driver's meeting oh we made a mistake last night we probably should have threw the yellow they're like you said there's no win situation because no matter what you do everybody's gonna complain and i've said this on here before for years i like that caution a caution is a caution like if blaney a single car spin on the apron for blaney is a yellow Then that's whether it's lap one or lap two 60, a caution is a caution, you know?

[595] And if you're going to throw the yellow for Blaney spinning by himself on the apron, you have to throw the yellow for a fucking 20 car pile up down the back straightaway, you know?

[596] And like, and Bubba said the same thing you said on here last week.

[597] He said, if there's only really, there's only two fixes to this.

[598] In my opinion, you either do away with green, white checkers and just end the race at lap two 60 yesterday and throw the checker under yellow, or you just have nonstop.

[599] green white checkers until we cross the start finish line under checker because this that you're never going to fix this.

[600] There's, it's going to be different race directors.

[601] There's going to be different people up there.

[602] They're going to hit the button at different times.

[603] You're never going to, you're never going to get what you're looking for in this scenario, like complete consistency or the right call every time.

[604] So you either just keep racing until we have nobody left and, or just stop, get rid of the green, white checkers.

[605] I mean, what do you think?

[606] What'd you guys think of Nashville last year when guys were running out of fuel?

[607] That was when I, that was like when I started harping on here, I'm like, let's just like, stop doing, cause we know like, and you, that's a problem.

[608] You're a driver.

[609] You have to go for it.

[610] What are you going to do on a green -white checker?

[611] Absolutely.

[612] Everything you can get, whatever spot it is, you're going 110 % trying to get that spot.

[613] That's what everybody else does.

[614] Nashville was a perfect example where we just continued to crash.

[615] They're in Indy, right?

[616] That's why I said I'm all for just get rid of them.

[617] Because all we do is tear up race cars.

[618] Do you remember why they got rid of them?

[619] I don't remember why we ever...

[620] Like, why we started Green White Checkers is for fans?

[621] They wanted a more exciting finish?

[622] And that's the problem.

[623] I think they're so involved right now with social media and worried about the world.

[624] They're not worried about us.

[625] They're not worried about them anymore.

[626] Look, just make a decision, right?

[627] What has been so wrong about throwing the caution in case of emergency, right?

[628] I mean, obviously that wreck happened.

[629] If they still crossed the line, they were still in danger.

[630] Everybody was...

[631] Emergency vehicles couldn't get to the guys that wrecked.

[632] There's all types of situations.

[633] If the wreck probably happened on the back stretch going into two, they probably wouldn't have thrown the caution.

[634] So it's a situational situation, right?

[635] Wherever it happens, they have to make a split -second decision, first of safety, the driver's safety.

[636] I don't know, man. It's just I think they're getting caught up in worrying about what everybody thinks instead of doing their job.

[637] We see that.

[638] I mean, we see it like they won't throw a yellow during pit cycles.

[639] I'm like, it's a yellow.

[640] It's a fucking yellow.

[641] It's not a case -by -case basis of when you're going to throw the yellow.

[642] We're not going to throw a yellow because it was here.

[643] Was it here last year where they all wrecked coming to pit road?

[644] Yeah.

[645] And they're scattered over there in turn three, and we're good.

[646] We're not going to throw the yellow because it's going to fuck up the pit cycle.

[647] That should not come into play.

[648] It's either a yellow or it's not.

[649] Fair.

[650] All right, next.

[651] Multiple drivers frustrated with Carson Josevar during and after the race.

[652] No, really?

[653] Yeah, do I even need to read the quotes?

[654] I mean, I think we all heard them.

[655] You can read some of them.

[656] Let's hear them.

[657] Kyle Busch, go tell that 77 he's done the same fucking move 10 times.

[658] I don't care if I wreck the whole field.

[659] I'm over him.

[660] He's a fucking douchebag.

[661] Jesus.

[662] I'm going to wreck his ass.

[663] That's bad.

[664] Quote, unquote.

[665] I didn't say anything like that.

[666] Blaney was mad.

[667] Chastain talked to him after the race.

[668] Spot on, spot off.

[669] Tommy.

[670] Yeah, spot on.

[671] I mean, same thing.

[672] I mean, he's going to learn someday, but he needs to learn pretty quick because he's going to start getting wrecked and cost himself and his team a lot of money.

[673] Again, great, talented race car driver.

[674] Car's been fast.

[675] He just needs to harness it, man. I told Bubba one of you guys is going to have to get a step stool and punch him in the face at some point.

[676] But listen, for me, and I don't know how Noah feels about it because you've got to race with him, but obviously he was ultra aggressive, really fast race car, and it's kind of following the mold of a Stenhouse, a Logano, a McMurray back in the day.

[677] And these ultra aggressive plate racers, while they might wreck a lot, They win races.

[678] Jay McMurray won plate races.

[679] Stenhouse wins plate races.

[680] Logano, probably one of the best plate racers in our sport.

[681] At the end of the day, he was ultra, ultra aggressive.

[682] I didn't want to be anywhere near him on the racetrack.

[683] It had nothing to do with the plate race.

[684] He was doing a Bowman Gray.

[685] He's done it every racetrack last year.

[686] I'm just singling out last night.

[687] You didn't want to be around him on the racetrack, but when it came down to it, he's three wide for the lead.

[688] Yeah, because he had a really fast race car.

[689] He still wrecked a lot of people and ran into a lot of people on the way.

[690] How do you balance that?

[691] You've been in a position.

[692] You have fast race cars.

[693] How do you balance?

[694] Do you give a shit what people think about you while you're out there?

[695] You do, ultimately, because your respect level on the racetrack, that determines how people race you and put you in different positions.

[696] I've obviously had my fair share of mishaps throughout my career and on the racetrack.

[697] But I feel like I have a lot more respect and understanding now that I'm older on being more patient, putting myself in better positions and not, you know, ruining other people's day.

[698] Because, you know, you got to race against these guys 38 weeks in a row in multiple years.

[699] And he's really, really fast.

[700] He's up there.

[701] I mean, he drives the wheels off that thing.

[702] But eventually there becomes a point where it's a detriment each and every weekend because guys race you super, super hard each and every week.

[703] Instead of pointing you by if you're faster, letting you go, they're just going to race the shit out of you every single time you're out there.

[704] And it ultimately hurts you in the long run.

[705] nobody's perfect and we all mess up and misjudge stuff on the racetrack.

[706] But, you know, it's just, it's not fun.

[707] You got to know, in my point of view, you got to, I try to always know who I'm around.

[708] There's certain guys that, you know, you can race side by side and three wide with.

[709] And there's other guys where you're like, man, this guy, he's a dart with one feather.

[710] He's still going to get there and he's going to get there fast, but you don't know.

[711] where he's going to be or where he's going to go.

[712] And that inconsistency doesn't scare you, but it just, it puts you on guard of, man, I don't.

[713] I don't want to be around this guy.

[714] Have you been in a position where you get out of the car like Carson did last night and every interview is just...

[715] They're lined up.

[716] Just lined up.

[717] 100%.

[718] What is that even like?

[719] I think watching some of Carson's interviews, he thinks he had a great night, he finished second, whatever it was, and then you get out of the car and you're like, oh, shit.

[720] Everybody's mad at me. Nobody wants to be in a boy band with him.

[721] That was a weird comment.

[722] I don't know.

[723] In two years from now, you're going to look at the result sheets and say, if he ran second and did what he did on the racetrack each and every weekend, but he still ran in the top five every race, you'd be like, man, this guy's unbelievable stat -wise, right?

[724] But people forget over time.

[725] So as he progresses and gets better to race with, I think it'll be okay.

[726] He's just got to pick a lane, a fork in the road if he wants to go right or left.

[727] And that's, I'm going to continue to race this way and I might have good results.

[728] And thumbs up.

[729] He's doing his job and he's getting the results.

[730] At the end of the day, that's what this is about is results.

[731] But he's going to piss a lot of people off on the way.

[732] And if anybody's not familiar, you guys don't forget.

[733] Like, I'm sure you have a list of guys.

[734] You don't have to name any of them.

[735] But, like, there's guys you race harder than other guys because of however they race you, whether it's Cup, Xfinity, whatever it is.

[736] Like, you guys know.

[737] Like, this guy, I'm going to make his life difficult no matter who it is or what they've done you in the past.

[738] Like, this is a guy, I'm going to race the shit out of him right here because he fucking ran me three wide into a corner five years ago or whatever it was.

[739] 100%.

[740] Or you just take care of him when it's, you know, we keep tabs on everyone.

[741] And, you know, when there's a big moment transferring in the next round of the playoffs or something, two years down the road, this guy raced you like shit one time.

[742] He's got a year under his belt.

[743] Enough's enough, man. Learn how to race.

[744] I mean, I'd say it time and time again.

[745] Mark Martin should write a book or do a video, and every new race car driver, no matter what, at four years old, needs to start watching.

[746] Mark Martin's video on how to race, and we'd have a much better sport.

[747] I think part of the problem is every lap counts now, and every position counts.

[748] Back in the day, they used to point guys by because they were racing 38 races.

[749] Now we race it race by race, lap by lap.

[750] Instead, you'd point a guy by and...

[751] A seventh was a good day because you're just stacking points.

[752] But that's not true because it's a math thing.

[753] Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, they all understood it.

[754] And if you guys race side by side for five laps, you give up more time to the next guy or the leader than just letting him go.

[755] I mean, it's just something that's – and you look at – why are you racing us to death like this?

[756] Let us go.

[757] Let's both get in cleaner air and not get lapped.

[758] Or not get in trouble with the 10th place guy that's catching us.

[759] It's just so different.

[760] I'm sure for you, it's hard to pass.

[761] Everybody's racing at 110 % each and every lap.

[762] So why do you want the next group catching you then?

[763] Because if you hold that guy off, then he's getting passed and you're good.

[764] You're holding your track position.

[765] You're not getting passed by a freight train guy.

[766] I feel like this is even different.

[767] from xfinity to cup for you you know like obviously you had a really fast xfinity car some nights you could you could let that guy go and eventually your car is going to come around to where you liked it you can go back and pass him now if you let somebody go in the cup series there's a good chance you're never passing that guy again like it's just the way like that's the way it is like you can't like and it's so fucked up that a lot of a lot of it tire wear or heat really in tires is the problem so like if you just hold the guy off for 10 laps and let him get his tires hot you'll never see him again you just drive away and it's it sucks to race that way because i remember like well i i spotted for you and that's the way we were like you know just we don't need to race we know we're trying to just Get a top 25, top 20, whatever it is.

[768] Like, we don't need to get in trouble.

[769] We don't need to race.

[770] But now you just have to race every lap like you're trying to arrow block or just hold the guy off and he just tires up so you can drive away.

[771] And it's frustrating when you're the guy that's better and you catch the guy and he just raises to death.

[772] But it's just the way it is now.

[773] I see two or three guys, senior guys still to this day, not do that.

[774] And at the end of the stage or at the end of the race.

[775] They're the best cars passing the most cars.

[776] I still don't believe it.

[777] I think that's something that's in their heads that they have to do.

[778] You know, Harvick was really good at.

[779] Denny's really, really good at it.

[780] A couple other guys out there are really good at saving their stuff, understanding what they got to do.

[781] And if everybody raced like that, it would probably be the same and better racing.

[782] It drives me nuts on how we have to race today or if we think we have to race today in order to advance.

[783] Do you think Kyle Busch races differently with this next -gen car than he did beforehand?

[784] I think Kyle Busch is overdriving what he has right now.

[785] I don't think he really is in love with this car.

[786] And it's really hurting him.

[787] I mean, he's one of the most talented race car drivers in the world, right?

[788] But I just don't think it fits him.

[789] I think not practicing really aggravates him.

[790] I think when he's on the track, again, his statistics showed it.

[791] When he runs a truck race, he's better on Sundays.

[792] I think that he has not fully probably bought into.

[793] what he needs to do and how aggressive he needs to be driving these cars to a certain point, right?

[794] And when he does get overaggressive, he's spinning out or he's doing things on his own.

[795] You know, it's like, man, it's not the Kyle Busch that we all know that can outdrive everybody when he has really, really good stuff.

[796] So, yeah, I mean, everybody has to drive differently, right?

[797] I mean, I think the guys think that they have to be aggressive.

[798] but I don't think they have to be.

[799] I don't.

[800] I see the leaders of the band not have to do that, and they're there.

[801] They're there every race.

[802] You know, you didn't hear one word about Ryan Blaney after he spun out, get back to fourth.

[803] Did he touch anybody?

[804] Did he wreck anybody?

[805] He didn't need to.

[806] He was riding a rocket ship.

[807] He was in a Ford.

[808] That's what I'm getting at is this shit is really, really fast to where if he makes mistakes, he'll get back up there where.

[809] If you're average, you have to race every single lap to keep your track position because it's so hard to get it back.

[810] Oh, I understand, but you can be average and still be...

[811] Nine out of ten times, you're going to get in trouble, right?

[812] Yeah, you don't have to be a dickhead.

[813] Right.

[814] Nine out of ten times, when you're over -aggressive, you're going to be in trouble.

[815] And I just see a lot of guys making a lot of mistakes on the track during the race and bump into somebody and bend something a little bit.

[816] hurt the rest of the race, and, oh, the car's a piece of shit now.

[817] Yeah, you think?

[818] So, you know, it's, I don't know, I just, I'm too, I guess I'm still too old school on that.

[819] Well, you are old, I'll give you that.

[820] Yeah, I am, I am, but I just think we can all do ourselves a better, you know, all do ourselves a favor by racing a little bit differently, and, yeah, like you said, Carson pissed off a lot of people, but he finished second last night, right, and he did his job, what he was supposed to do, but, It's going to hurt him down the road.

[821] It comes back.

[822] It comes back eventually.

[823] All right.

[824] Justin Elgar chooses not to block Austin Hill on the last restart of the Xfinity race.

[825] What the fuck?

[826] I was at Dave and Buster.

[827] So the 21 dominates the entire race.

[828] Is this the last restart?

[829] Yeah.

[830] 21 dominates the entire race.

[831] Justin gets clear right here down the back straightaway.

[832] By a fucking mile.

[833] Fuck it.

[834] What are we doing?

[835] Fuck it.

[836] Just let him come back around the top of us.

[837] Fuck it.

[838] Like, we don't have to worry about nothing.

[839] Who are the two cars behind him?

[840] His teammate.

[841] Yeah, teammate.

[842] But who cares?

[843] Yeah.

[844] Like, if you have to cover the fastest car in the race, and it's been the 21 every plate race for the last, whatever, three or four years, like, you got to get in front of that guy.

[845] That pissed me off.

[846] You can't just let him have a lane to drive back around you.

[847] I was confused that.

[848] He didn't start behind him.

[849] Yeah, you talked about this.

[850] Me and me, you talked about this yesterday.

[851] Yeah, because every restart, they would push out, then make you move.

[852] But, yeah, I don't know.

[853] I mean, once he got clear, we're going to have to call Eddie.

[854] See what the hell Eddie was doing.

[855] Yeah, I don't know what he was doing.

[856] I just, I don't know.

[857] Like, to your point, Tommy, every time the 21 was clear into one, like every restart, whoever was behind him, really.

[858] But right here, like.

[859] Yeah, but you know, even at.

[860] regular mile and a half, the outside lane is going to roll.

[861] It's beneficial off of two, yeah.

[862] We were back there, like one of the last cars in line because we're like 15 laps down, and I'm like, I'm spotting live down the back straightaway.

[863] I'm like, oh, the seven's got to cover the top here, right?

[864] He's going to do it.

[865] Was he worried about just taking care of his teammate and his mind?

[866] I mean, I don't know.

[867] His interview afterwards was a little strange too, but like.

[868] You got to pull up right there.

[869] You have to pull up right there.

[870] And now he's back outside you and the game's over.

[871] Like, he's just going to drive back around you.

[872] I just, like, for me, like, Austin Hill is obviously a phenomenal plate racer.

[873] Very, like, the RCR cars can do whatever they want like the Penske cars can on Sunday.

[874] But that's the guy you got to keep bottled up.

[875] If you're out there racing, you know this.

[876] You've raced against them guys in this race.

[877] Like, the 21 of the two are the guys you got to kind of base your race off of.

[878] You got to keep those guys bottled up.

[879] You let them get out front and they can't get around them.

[880] Jesse was pretty good in the beginning, but as soon as – probably I think about mid -race when the Stuart Haas cars got a little strong there and they shucked the two away from the 21.

[881] The two never got back there, not back to the front, never got back to the front.

[882] Because he had an average car.

[883] Yeah.

[884] I noticed – Oh, here we go.

[885] I noticed they were – I think they were more trimmed out than the 21 was because they qualified a little bit better, and the 21 I think had more downforce.

[886] So once you lose track position when your car is really trimmed out, it's kind of – It's kind of a handful to get back up in there.

[887] But I just this was this was mind boggling to me for to not not at least block the 21.

[888] All right.

[889] We have a new twist to spot on spot off this year.

[890] And our host gets to ask each other questions if they have any.

[891] Number three.

[892] Lord.

[893] Did Luke find some money to go race?

[894] No, was it last week?

[895] No, he thought he did, but no. That fell through?

[896] So he didn't go to Cordell?

[897] No. Damn.

[898] What is it like dealing with these fucking Baldwin kids?

[899] I mean, I know you get to hang out with them a little bit.

[900] They're fucking pains in the asses, aren't they?

[901] No, they're good.

[902] They're good.

[903] I've mainly just hung out with Luke.

[904] So he rolls around with Zilich and a couple of those other guys.

[905] Oh, Zillich making his first cup start this week.

[906] I know.

[907] You should run him straight off the racetrack.

[908] Like, just dump him as soon as you see him.

[909] I don't know if I'll be able to get there.

[910] He'll probably take care of himself.

[911] Turn one at Coda is pretty tricky for Zillich.

[912] He'll be fast.

[913] Yeah, I think the last time he was there, he was pretty good.

[914] I have a question for Tommy.

[915] Do you know what a situationship is?

[916] It's my word of the day for you today.

[917] No. A situationship?

[918] No. I'm always in situations.

[919] Noah, can you help explain it?

[920] I don't know what the fuck.

[921] Oh, you know what a situation ship is.

[922] You've probably been in one or two of them.

[923] Currently, maybe.

[924] Maybe.

[925] Situation shit?

[926] Ship.

[927] I've been a lot of situation shit.

[928] Can you give us, are you in a situation ship these days?

[929] Not currently.

[930] Ended last week.

[931] Ended last week?

[932] A situation ship is like a relationship that isn't really, like there's no label on it, but like it's just a mess.

[933] That's Tommy's whole life.

[934] I'm in a lot of situations.

[935] Poor Beth is in a situationship.

[936] Your kids will probably know what that means.

[937] She came home last night.

[938] She was hot.

[939] Just mad at all of us.

[940] What did y 'all do?

[941] I have no idea.

[942] Basically, she just gave us all the finger and went outside and lit the fire and sat outside.

[943] Meg.

[944] This cracks me up still.

[945] I texted Carson this last night.

[946] I had to include laughing.

[947] Megan went to the Lil Wayne concert last night.

[948] I'm pissed I didn't know that Lil Wayne was in town.

[949] I would have went.

[950] Who'd she go with?

[951] Ashley Brim.

[952] Ashley Smalley now, I guess.

[953] Phil Smalley's wife.

[954] A couple of her friends.

[955] That was...

[956] When she told me that, I was like, you're going where?

[957] Of course, Megan is maybe the most straight -edge person on the planet.

[958] And she texted me last night.

[959] She's like, I think I'm getting high for the first time in my life.

[960] She's like, just breathing the air in this concert.

[961] Lord.

[962] So she showed up at Big Alice.

[963] We went to Big Alice for a little while last night.

[964] Carson couldn't come.

[965] She wasn't allowed.

[966] I was being responsible.

[967] But she showed up, I don't even know what time, one o 'clock or so.

[968] And I was like, oh, thank God you're here.

[969] You can drive home.

[970] Just hope you're not high.

[971] I got a question for Noah.

[972] So how was, how's the transmission?

[973] Transition.

[974] Transmission.

[975] How's the transmission?

[976] You got good trainees over there?

[977] The transition been from out west to here.

[978] Because it happened pretty quick for you, right?

[979] Yeah, it's a lot different.

[980] I'm going from Vegas, which is a pretty all -around 24 -hour -a -day city, and coming out here to gas stations, closing it.

[981] 9 or 10 p .m. and you can't get food after 9 other than going to cookout or Taco Bell or something.

[982] So it's definitely slower pace out here.

[983] It drives me nuts when you're on a two -lane road and you're in the backcountry and you've got somebody in front of you going 10 under the speed limit and you're like, geez, nobody has anywhere to go quick.

[984] But I'm starting to enjoy it more.

[985] And with the lake here is nice, but we don't ever get to really go out there because we don't have any time.

[986] But I hated it at first moving out here.

[987] I always like going back west, but I'm starting to enjoy it more now that I got more buddies out here.

[988] Well, half of them are out here now.

[989] Yeah, Zane and Riley, we all grew up racing against each other.

[990] What about the racetracks?

[991] How many different racetracks did you guys race out there?

[992] I only ran like two or three racetracks out there.

[993] I started racing in 2012 at the Bullring in Legend Cars, or in Bandoleros.

[994] Then I moved up into Legend Cars for the next two years.

[995] 2013, 2014, I ran Kern County and Tucson Speedway, but never ran Irwindale in Legend Cars or anything.

[996] But that's the biggest difference out there is every track's like four hours apart, give or take.

[997] Out here, they're 40 minutes, it seems like.

[998] Like, there's just so many tracks in a...

[999] 100 mile radius of charlotte so we came out here uh during the summertime i would run the summer shootout and i think the first year we came out here in 2013 we were out here for 10 days and we were on a racetrack eight of the 10 days on different tracks so we'd run uh the summer shootout monday and tuesday we'd go test it like concord we'd go test at dylan the next day we'd go find a race on Friday, we went up to Shenandoah, Virginia.

[1000] No, Southside Speedway up in Virginia, up in Richmond.

[1001] And then we went to Shenandoah and West Virginia the next day and then had a day off and then tested again.

[1002] So that was super cool to be able to be on track damn near half a season out on the West Coast because we'd only raced 12 or 13 times out there race weekends.

[1003] So we were on track a lot.

[1004] you could just get so much more racing.

[1005] What I think is super interesting is I started racing when I was 13 years old, and now you've got kids that are 10, 11 years old that are in full -size stock cars, and it's pretty wild to think, like, man, this next generation of kids, they're getting younger and younger, and they're better and better.

[1006] So with iRacing and everything like that, it's definitely...

[1007] pretty neat to see all those young kids coming into the sport and being so good as young as they are.

[1008] You talk about coming up through the sport, and I know I'm sure there's a ton of people that have helped you along the way, but one person I do want to, I've been actively trying to get them to come on here and co -host, but...

[1009] Brandon McReynolds obviously has been a big part of your career.

[1010] What's it like working with Brandon?

[1011] I know a different side of Brandon than most people do, but what's it like just working with Brandon?

[1012] I know he's been a huge part of your career.

[1013] Yeah, so we were racing against each other in 2015 out in the K &M West Series, and I wrecked him at Sonoma coming back to the white flag and turned 11 and turned him into the pit road, like that little access road to pit road.

[1014] Then the next weekend we went to Stateline Speedway up in Idaho, and he had a sway bar arm come loose.

[1015] So he was driving around there with no sway bar, and we were running third or fourth.

[1016] He's like, oh, here's my time to get this little shit head.

[1017] So he barreled it off in there and jacked me up and set me pretty hard, and I hung on to it.

[1018] And then he got me again a couple laps later, and then finally I drove away, and he's like, damn, I can't wreck this guy.

[1019] So he called me after that, and I really didn't know him.

[1020] And he's like, hey, I'm done.

[1021] If you're done, we're good.

[1022] And that's really where the relationship started.

[1023] And then 2016, he was out of the Napa ride because Todd Gilliland was going into it for Bill McNally out on the West Coast.

[1024] And we hired him to driver coach me and spot and just kind of show me the ropes of what it takes in my second year in the K &N series and start working on business development and management and all that.

[1025] So he kind of transitioned from a driver coach into my...

[1026] manager and handling all the day -to -day stuff for me and partners and whatnot so it's been cool to see his progression throughout the years on almost being self -taught he's had a lot of you know mentors a lot of help Joe Mattis here at Junior Motorsports is he's one of the best when it comes to business and he's helped him a lot and been a very valuable part of our relationship between Brandon and I because really with without Brandon's help and support and his hard work, none of this stuff goes on.

[1027] So just big shout out to him because.

[1028] He's been there in the trenches with me when times are not so good and also been there for the good times.

[1029] I'm going to need you to jump on the bandwagon and tell him to stop being a bitch and come on here and hang out with us because I'm a little disappointed in him about it.

[1030] We haven't heard from him in the old group chat lately.

[1031] He's probably afraid to answer that group chat because that group chat kind of goes off the rails just quite a bit.

[1032] Speaking of off the rails, it's time for Reaction Theater where fans can call in and voice their opinions from this weekend's race.

[1033] And let's get into it.

[1034] Ricky Stenhouse has went from wrecking all the foreign drivers, but now he's taking out all the local guys at each racetrack.

[1035] What is he thinking?

[1036] Come on, Ricky Stenhouse.

[1037] Ricky.

[1038] Poor Ricky.

[1039] Sad Chase.

[1040] Somebody reached out to me this week.

[1041] They think you don't like Ricky.

[1042] Is that true?

[1043] No, that's not true at all.

[1044] I mean, I talked to him the other day about...

[1045] We were going over a story because when the wife was getting ready to have the baby, Ricky's wife, he pulled out of his driveway and I was behind him.

[1046] Obviously, it was a little pressure on Ricky getting her to the hospital.

[1047] And I knew it was him, but I didn't know that was the issue.

[1048] So we're on 150, and, you know, there's a lot of lights on 150.

[1049] So he's like, stops because of the red light.

[1050] And I pull over, I look at him.

[1051] Pull over, look at him.

[1052] And I'm like, man, what the hell are you doing?

[1053] He's like, dude, I was having my baby.

[1054] I didn't know what to do.

[1055] And I was trying to take my time, and I didn't realize that I was supposed to be in a rush because she broke water and all kinds of shit was going on.

[1056] I'm like, all right, cool.

[1057] So we were in the airport.

[1058] The other day, getting ready to take off, and he had the baby.

[1059] You know, they had the baby there.

[1060] But, no, I get along with Ricky.

[1061] I get along with Ricky fine.

[1062] It's just when he straps that helmet on, he loses a little blood pressure.

[1063] That's all.

[1064] I mean, a little blood flow.

[1065] But, you know, Ricky's a good guy.

[1066] I mean, he's – but, yeah, he likes to hit everything on the way through.

[1067] Carson Josevar at the end of that race was like, when you do something stupid in school.

[1068] Then get chewed out by your teacher.

[1069] Then get chewed out by your mom once you pick you up.

[1070] Then get chewed out by your dad when he gets home.

[1071] Everybody was tapping that ass.

[1072] Did he say everybody was...

[1073] Tapping that ass is what he said.

[1074] I don't think that...

[1075] We might have to visit that slang section again and see if that's what that means.

[1076] You know what that means?

[1077] Tapping that ass?

[1078] Don't answer that.

[1079] Just say no. Shout out Ryan McGee.

[1080] Ryan McGee had the tweet of the night, I thought, like the movie Airplane.

[1081] You remember the movie Airplane where they're like, I forget, like somebody's freaking out in the chair and they just all walk up and like shake him and slap him in the face.

[1082] He's like, this is Carson Tosavar after the race is over.

[1083] And it's just a line of people slapping him in the face.

[1084] Spot on.

[1085] At the bar Friday night, some fireball shots.

[1086] I hear a very, very distinguished voice.

[1087] I look over.

[1088] It's fucking Tommy Baldwin over there, just fucking chilling.

[1089] I was like, hey.

[1090] I told him.

[1091] I was like, hey, I'm going to leave a message for you.

[1092] It's Fat Thor.

[1093] Nice to meet you.

[1094] I tweeted the picture of us, and Freddy helped me get the most views I've ever had.

[1095] Let's fucking go, boys.

[1096] Those two boys were big boys.

[1097] Big guys.

[1098] They were sitting, and he was yapping, man. I mean, you can tell.

[1099] The whole bar knew his whole life story.

[1100] Yeah, they were fun.

[1101] Fun to listen to.

[1102] I gave a piece of advice.

[1103] I said, if I was you, I'd get the hell out of there as soon as possible because Tommy will stick you with the fucking bill.

[1104] I've been there before.

[1105] You better leave right now.

[1106] There's a reason why I stick all of you guys with the bill.

[1107] Yeah, I think we probably, it's probably just working off a tab.

[1108] Man, these commercials are getting out of fucking hands.

[1109] I'm out of fucking alcohol and we ain't even halfway through this bitch.

[1110] Holy fuck.

[1111] I'm watching a goddamn subway commercial right now, and I don't even want fucking subway.

[1112] Alex, is that you?

[1113] How do you disguise your voice like that?

[1114] That's pretty good.

[1115] They got him to say subway, though.

[1116] Hey, that's it.

[1117] Guess the commercial worked.

[1118] Well, when you got Ross Chastain giving you advice after the race, you know you're fucked up.

[1119] Go 12.

[1120] Go 12.

[1121] Go 12, that's definitely.

[1122] Do you think Ross has calmed down?

[1123] Have you seen a different Ross?

[1124] Oh, yeah, 100%.

[1125] Ever since that Darlington deal where Rick Hendrick called him out in their press conference, I don't know what happened behind the scenes at Chevy or whatnot, but ever since that day, I feel like he's been way more team.

[1126] Did you see that on the racetrack?

[1127] Yeah, 100%.

[1128] So he's comfortable, more comfortable to race around.

[1129] Yeah.

[1130] So you can do it if you want to, right?

[1131] Yeah.

[1132] Oh, absolutely.

[1133] You could do it if you wanted to.

[1134] But if you have a shitty car, you got to block his ass.

[1135] Yeah, and wear your shit out.

[1136] I feel like before, Ross was running a lot, lot better, too, before he calmed down.

[1137] It's a double -edged sword.

[1138] What the fuck is a caution?

[1139] How is it that the same wreck two days in a row is a different outcome?

[1140] How is it that since Daytona, this has happened five fucking times?

[1141] Five times!

[1142] Different calls each time!

[1143] How is that possible?

[1144] That's Eric Jones.

[1145] That's David.

[1146] Eric's the kid.

[1147] He's still bitter.

[1148] We need to give him that.

[1149] Like Tommy said, let's talk about Elton.

[1150] That was interesting on the end.

[1151] Wait on that.

[1152] Like Tommy said, they are a victim of social media.

[1153] They saw a lot of outrage after.

[1154] Eric's duel, so they tried to make a change for the 500.

[1155] Then they tried to carry that change through the race the other night, and they realized this is a bad idea to just have guys piling through this wreck on Saturday night.

[1156] So it's just, they're in a no -win situation.

[1157] Whatever they do, they're going to be wrong.

[1158] Me and Saeed's.

[1159] That car let him race it to the line and they kept it.

[1160] Well, today was not like last night.

[1161] That car's a bitch.

[1162] Tell a flag and a fan to piss.

[1163] Last lap of the race and they throw that shit.

[1164] Just saying Carson could have had that win.

[1165] And Bob, your broadcast sucks tonight.

[1166] Oh, there's the toaster bath.

[1167] I got a question that made me think.

[1168] Fox and NBC did.

[1169] So qualifying was on Prime this past weekend.

[1170] Was it CW, right?

[1171] Was it CW?

[1172] Was it Prime?

[1173] Yeah, Larry had the Prime deal.

[1174] Will they post the ratings for that?

[1175] Like, will we be able to see the numbers of...

[1176] qualifying last year on Fox compared to...

[1177] I don't know that they'll...

[1178] I don't know that I've ever seen, which they might because it's a one -off.

[1179] It'd be interesting to see because now you have to buy so many...

[1180] I mean, I feel like everybody has Netflix and...

[1181] I have a login about everything you can imagine.

[1182] It's like so many streams.

[1183] There's like 15 streaming things that you need to have now.

[1184] I'm wondering how the ratings are going to be just based off of you can't...

[1185] go on the tv i i realize everything's going streaming now and it's a lot easier it'd just be interesting to see what that difference is you gotta think it's gonna be low i would not low but lower obviously than than you know fox or fs1 even I thought it was funny last week.

[1186] Obviously, the ARCA race got big views, and Cletus was in the race, and everybody's like, oh, it's the Cletus McFarlane.

[1187] Shout out to Cletus.

[1188] Got us around here a million views.

[1189] Where are you guys at nowadays?

[1190] How many views did you get on Dale's show last week?

[1191] It's like 1 .5.

[1192] I listened to it last night.

[1193] So shout out to Cletus.

[1194] But also, you've got to remember, they're like, oh, he did more than the truck race.

[1195] And I'm like, well, it was also on Big Fox versus FS1.

[1196] So, well, Cletus definitely drew eyes to the sport.

[1197] That also didn't hurt.

[1198] Cletus is big right now on the no -sleeve program.

[1199] He's ripping sleeves off.

[1200] I saw somebody.

[1201] So he's driving for Red Jones Racing, which, you know, they've been really good to me, Terry and Mark Rett.

[1202] Shout out to Terry who just bought a damn late model company.

[1203] Pretty cool.

[1204] Port City Race Cars.

[1205] Shout out if you're a racer racing late models.

[1206] You been buying any late models lately?

[1207] No. I just sold mine.

[1208] Not enough time.

[1209] Pastrana texted me the other night, and there's a number in there that I didn't recognize, so I open it up.

[1210] He's like, hey, Noah, it's Travis and Cletus.

[1211] Here's Clay's number.

[1212] Clay, just take it from here.

[1213] He's like, hey, come down to the Freedom 500.

[1214] We're going to race Crown Vicks down at my track, and the loser of us three has to wear no sleeves for a month.

[1215] He's big on this no -sleep program, and Biffle's got to do it and stuff if he gets like 100 ,000 subscribers.

[1216] He already did.

[1217] He lost.

[1218] Yeah, he's sleeveless.

[1219] I saw a video of somebody ripping his sleeves off in the restaurant the other day.

[1220] I was talking to Doug Yates the other day.

[1221] We were working out, and we work out at the same place over at Roush Yates' building, and I was like, could you imagine?

[1222] like having to go into like a Ford super speedway meeting or a Ford meeting.

[1223] It's a Ford's in there and you got no sleeves and you got to walk into literally every sponsor dinner and everything and say, Hey guys, like here's why I'm wearing no sleeves.

[1224] I lost a bet.

[1225] Like you'd have to do that same speech every single place you go.

[1226] But I got, I got shit last week cause I made a comment.

[1227] about the Arca Race being a shit show, which obviously it was at Daytona, and I said something about a YouTuber, and I was talking about that dumbass that spun out in front of everybody and wiped out the whole field.

[1228] But people thought you meant him.

[1229] They thought I meant Cletus, and I'm like, all right, I should have been more specific.

[1230] I apologize.

[1231] I thought you meant him.

[1232] I'm like...

[1233] No, it was that other guy.

[1234] He's on YouTube.

[1235] Now his social media is...

[1236] They had a big race at his track last weekend.

[1237] The Ultima 600.

[1238] That's good.

[1239] 76 of them.

[1240] He does a hell of a job.

[1241] Did you see his YouTube video from Daytona on the race?

[1242] I saw where he got in trouble, for one.

[1243] Because he ran his in -car at the test and got the approbation.

[1244] So he had an in -car.

[1245] He posted a video at Daytona.

[1246] I watched it the other day before we went to Atlanta.

[1247] And he wrecked at Daytona.

[1248] Well, the in -car, the safety worker comes up and he's like, do you know where you are?

[1249] And he's like, Talladega.

[1250] And the guy's like, oh shit, he's all fucked up.

[1251] And he's like, no, I'm just messing with you.

[1252] He's a national treasure.

[1253] One last thing, shout out Richard, Atlanta Care Center.

[1254] I bumped us in off him.

[1255] He's a helicopter pilot that flies a flight for life helicopter at...

[1256] Atlanta Infield Care Center.

[1257] So shout out Richard for the Zen and the care center.

[1258] If you need Zins in Atlanta, you know where to find them.

[1259] You don't have your fancy Zen holder on you?

[1260] No. I can't believe that.

[1261] No, it's like no. I cannot believe that.

[1262] I don't do that, but shout out to him.

[1263] Shout out.

[1264] Shout out Richard.

[1265] Well, it's been like 20 minutes since we finished the last call, but to leave an audio message 24 -7, you can call our number at 704 -802 -9572 and we'll play the best ones each week on the show.

[1266] And now it's time for Ask DBC, and you can send in your questions on X each week using hashtag Ask DBC, and we will answer the best ones.

[1267] Danny the Phantom wants to know, with the recent history of close finishes and exciting racing in Atlanta, would you guys like to see other tracks reconfigured to an Atlanta -like style?

[1268] And if so, which tracks?

[1269] so i'm gonna actually go the other way not so much maybe with the cup cars yet but i'd like to see them just take the plates off the xfinity cars like let them guys go out there and race their ass off because like that xfinity race i felt like the other day was just straight up single file austin and the two were controlling the whole race and you can't get out of line because if you don't get clear and back in line you're going to the tail or whatever the fuck that line is so like i'm almost to the point now where i think it's racy enough to like just Like, let's ditch the fucking drafting package for the Xfinity cars and let them go out there and race and see what the hell that's like.

[1270] Because I thought that race was not that great the other night.

[1271] You know, the end was okay because they got to race in, like, the last couple laps of each stage.

[1272] But, like, I was always, I loved Atlanta.

[1273] Like, I'm sure you were the same way.

[1274] Like, back, you know, old Atlanta, worn out, Harvard kicking our ass, fucking running around the bottom of one and two.

[1275] That was one of my favorite racetracks.

[1276] I'm just hoping we get back there at some point.

[1277] But I definitely do not.

[1278] So I heard a rumor the other day that, or yesterday, that they were talking about doing this with Kansas.

[1279] And I'm like, dear God, please don't do that anywhere else.

[1280] Kansas is a great track.

[1281] This place is so fun.

[1282] And it's getting to that point now where I'm sure when we go back there for the summer race, guys are going to be a lot more focused on getting the cars to handle like a normal mile and a half rather than just trimmed out aero stuff.

[1283] Because when you get three, four rows back in the race, They drive so bad, and it drives completely different up front.

[1284] So the problem with where Atlanta's at right now is the draft is so powerful that you're searching for clean air in the corner, but if you don't get up in that line of draft, then you're screwed.

[1285] So that's what I think.

[1286] I don't know if we need more power, but it's just kind of in on that awkward phase when you get a...

[1287] A bad haircut and it's growing out.

[1288] Like if you shave your head and it's growing out and you're in that...

[1289] You don't know anything about bad haircuts, do you?

[1290] No, I've never had one.

[1291] I've never had one.

[1292] At least you didn't get into a fight that week or anything.

[1293] That was good.

[1294] Yeah, I mean, they need to keep working on, I think, the tire and the engine package.

[1295] I mean, we need to start getting off the gas a little bit more.

[1296] I did feel like the tires wore out more than...

[1297] Yesterday?

[1298] Yeah, this past weekend.

[1299] 25, 30 laps into a run, you could see guys starting to get super tight off the corner, and that's where I think the focus of getting the balance and the handling will be more important than trimming out for the race.

[1300] Keep going that direction, please.

[1301] Just let them get off the gas, and more time off the gas is going to be more passing.

[1302] Off -throttle time equals good racing.

[1303] The problem is you get tight behind guys right now, and you're having to bail out of the throttle off a two.

[1304] with the restrictor plate on there, it just takes so long and you're getting freight train.

[1305] Y 'all got any nominees for the shit show hall of fame this week?

[1306] Chris Wright won last week.

[1307] Whosever idea it was.

[1308] To just sandblast these poor bastards in the truck race.

[1309] I mean, have you ever had that happen to you?

[1310] Trucks don't, they don't have a right side window, right?

[1311] They got, I'm talking fucking sandblasted.

[1312] And like, like they parked the trucks right at the accident scene.

[1313] So they're all the speeding drives right outside of them.

[1314] And then they come by with the jets and just fucking KO these guys in the right side window.

[1315] I know Kyle was pretty pumped about it.

[1316] I'm sure I saw a couple other guys make comments about it, but that's, that's gotta be towards the top of the list for me. I mean, another nominee that we have listed here.

[1317] I don't want to read it all the way through, but...

[1318] Did you see this?

[1319] Oh, you were in the group text with us last night.

[1320] Well, he was eating Oreos.

[1321] He might have been a little busy.

[1322] What page are we on?

[1323] This is the bottom of this page.

[1324] With the...

[1325] Somebody...

[1326] I don't know.

[1327] We're investigating, I guess.

[1328] I reached out to some people in NASCAR.

[1329] That's not real.

[1330] Everything we say right now is alleged.

[1331] That happened on the NASCAR radio after the race was over last night.

[1332] Yeah.

[1333] But we think it was a fan.

[1334] hacking their radio of some sort.

[1335] Or it was Mr. Hendrick, one of the two.

[1336] No. Mr. H got on there.

[1337] I'm just kidding.

[1338] But it said...

[1339] That's not...

[1340] Get ahead and read it.

[1341] Get ahead and read it.

[1342] No. You don't want to read it?

[1343] I'll read it.

[1344] I had to read the douchebag comment earlier.

[1345] You can take this one.

[1346] This was from the transcript of the post -race, right, Colby, right?

[1347] This is where we got this from.

[1348] Elton, Elton Sawyer.

[1349] Elton, you better not fuck Larson.

[1350] Do not fuck Larson.

[1351] There you go, Elton.

[1352] You're going to fuck Larson, aren't you?

[1353] Don't fuck Larson, Elton.

[1354] Don't you do it.

[1355] That's not a NASCAR official.

[1356] You don't think that was Elton?

[1357] There had to be a fan.

[1358] This happens once a year on our radio.

[1359] I feel like somebody gets on there.

[1360] Does that happen pretty often?

[1361] We've had bleed over.

[1362] When we go to Vegas, we get the Air Force Base radio transmitters.

[1363] not transmitters, but we get some bleed in from, like, I'll hear, you know, whatever the flight number or whatever it is.

[1364] Yeah, especially Daytona, stuff like that.

[1365] But, yeah, I mean, we've had people just outright yelling and shit on our radios before.

[1366] It's crazy.

[1367] It's nuts.

[1368] It's crazy.

[1369] There's crazy people out there.

[1370] Somebody told me this when I got on the plane last night, and I was like, There's no way.

[1371] No. But they showed me, like, the TRD transcript, and I'm like, oh, God.

[1372] So somebody, but I don't think anybody heard it, right?

[1373] That's what we got told.

[1374] Like, it was some kind of, I don't know, whatever.

[1375] But we'll see.

[1376] But who do you got?

[1377] What was your shit show of the week, Thomas?

[1378] Anybody that comes to mind?

[1379] Josavar, you want to blame me?

[1380] Ricky, what did Ricky do this way?

[1381] Ricky, Josavar, Kyle Busch.

[1382] Who else?

[1383] No, I just, I mean, I thought.

[1384] And overall, the cup race is pretty damn good.

[1385] It was a lot of, like you said, in the middle of the pack, there was a lot of racing going on, two, three wide, and Corey was in a lot of it.

[1386] I'll tell you who was ultra.

[1387] I mean, obviously, he had to get a lot of luck.

[1388] McDowell came from fucking like six laps down to finish in the top 15.

[1389] How many times in a row did he get the...

[1390] Lucky dog.

[1391] Six.

[1392] I was like, every once in a while.

[1393] He tied Jamie McMurray and myself for most wave rounds.

[1394] Oh, really?

[1395] In a race.

[1396] Yeah, I saw that on Twitter last night.

[1397] I was trying to think of, never mind.

[1398] It's okay.

[1399] You're not even.

[1400] But like, he just kept getting it, getting it.

[1401] And then he was racing behind us.

[1402] And I'm like, surely he's on a lead lap, right?

[1403] And I'm sure enough, I go, fuck, he's right behind us.

[1404] He's on a lead lap.

[1405] But that was pretty impressive.

[1406] Where did he finish?

[1407] 14th, I think, or something like that?

[1408] 13th.

[1409] Yeah.

[1410] That was.

[1411] From the garage.

[1412] He was in the garage and came out to finish 13.

[1413] So do we only have one nominee?

[1414] I guess, unless you can get anybody.

[1415] I'll nominate the tower.

[1416] That's who I'm going to nominate for their caution and pushing button situations.

[1417] Can you just roll Chris Rice over for another week?

[1418] He deserves two of them.

[1419] Put Chris right.

[1420] Leave him on the board.

[1421] We'll just see if anybody beats Chris Rice.

[1422] We should hang him up as the first official inductee on the wall or something.

[1423] We do need an inductee board or something.

[1424] He's won at first race of the year.

[1425] He's got it for the year, probably.

[1426] Remember to go vote on Twitter for the Shit Show Hall of Fame poll, and we'll see who gets inducted next week.

[1427] All right, DBC picks.

[1428] I smoked y 'all again this week.

[1429] Me. Who goes last?

[1430] Me. Who finished last?

[1431] I'll do Zillich.

[1432] Tommy, who do you go for?

[1433] Tommy goes first.

[1434] Oh, I go last?

[1435] No, you go third.

[1436] I go last since I won.

[1437] Bubba had a decent pick.

[1438] Thomas, who do you want?

[1439] Reddick.

[1440] Reddick.

[1441] I will take Bill Byron.

[1442] That's a good pick.

[1443] You said you want Zillich?

[1444] I'll take Zilly.

[1445] That's fine.

[1446] Where are we going?

[1447] We're going to Coda.

[1448] I'll take Allmendinger.

[1449] Is he racing?

[1450] I don't know.

[1451] Is he not?

[1452] He's full -time.

[1453] Don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with me, dude.

[1454] What are you doing to prepare?

[1455] How has your road racing game been, Noah?

[1456] Not good.

[1457] It depends on the weekend.

[1458] It depends on the year.

[1459] I mean, with Legacy, we went to COTA and qualified in the top 10 and made the second round and then went back there last year.

[1460] I felt...

[1461] even more confident and we were like 32nd so have you tried have you ran sim with the new track design yeah yeah it's uh it's not fully like the visuals aren't fully there of what it'll look like uh last week when i ran it but this week i go wednesday so it should be better but it's kind of hard to see i don't know it's gonna make much of a difference on I just don't like the fact that we – I feel like we eliminated two passing zones by doing this.

[1462] Like that turn 11 was a really good passing zone, and then 12 because you had such a long straightaway to 12.

[1463] But I wasn't a fan of it, and we'll see how it plays out.

[1464] But what do you guys – you guys – just one car this week?

[1465] Yeah, just one car.

[1466] You're not bringing a road racing?

[1467] No, just one car and concentrate on that.

[1468] But, yeah, we ran it a little bit last week, and same thing.

[1469] Couldn't see the corner.

[1470] Yeah, I couldn't see it.

[1471] Is it going to be blind when you're there, or do you think it's just a Sim thing?

[1472] I don't know.

[1473] I hope not.

[1474] I hope not.

[1475] It's certainly always easier to see, I feel like, in real life.

[1476] The Sims are really good, but it's that last 5 % or 10 % making it feel exactly realistic is the hardest 5 % or 10 % to find to make it realistic.

[1477] I couldn't see anything in 6A, which is that new left -hander.

[1478] That's the one where you cut off the S's, right?

[1479] Yeah.

[1480] And then another thing you need to see is the track limits.

[1481] So I don't know.

[1482] In our spotter meeting at Daytona, they were talking about they're going to put kind of like walls up, or at least tire stacks is what they told us, to have a more defined...

[1483] area area where like if you hit these if you hit whatever this is temporary wall a tire stack whatever it is you're off you know so it's more because like i hated that last year and i know you guys probably did too like just you don't know like you like you're just running through there and if you just happen to be you know if you have your left sides on the rumble strips or if you're inside of them i didn't know your outside tire if it's you know you do you think do you think there should be something like a wall, like a penalty, like if you get too far off, or should it just be up to NASCAR to call it?

[1484] I mean, I feel like it's clear as day.

[1485] If you cut it, you cut it, and if you don't, you don't.

[1486] It's kind of like the tolerance deal.

[1487] They give you a whole car with a tolerance, essentially, because you can have, like I think of the first right through the S's, like.

[1488] You want to cut that as much as possible to get set up into the left and then to the right.

[1489] You have plenty of room to run through there that you know if you're not on the rumble strip with your left side tires to that right hander, okay, you're going to get popped.

[1490] So I don't see an issue personally with it.

[1491] It depends on how it gets a little sketchy when you're following a car through there.

[1492] to see, but you're still feeling the rumble strip with the tires, so you know where you are.

[1493] I think it's just guys trying to take more than they have, and they already have a tolerance, and that's everything, though.

[1494] Well, we wish you luck this weekend.

[1495] We wish you luck this year.

[1496] Take care of my buddy Drew, my buddy Joey.

[1497] Joey's my neighbor.

[1498] Is he?

[1499] Yeah, he lives around the block from me, him and Kelly.

[1500] He's a good dude.

[1501] He is a good dude.

[1502] He likes to get after it at times.

[1503] He enjoys fireball about as much as I do.

[1504] But we'll let you luck.

[1505] Good luck this year.

[1506] Thanks for coming by.

[1507] Thank you.

[1508] Anybody else you want to shout out before you take off out of here?

[1509] I know Rusty, say hi to Rusty again.

[1510] When's he on the card?

[1511] When's he coming back?

[1512] He's back this weekend.

[1513] I want to show the listeners Rusty's voice.

[1514] You got a voice, ma 'am?

[1515] You won't believe his voice.

[1516] That day, John was with him.

[1517] When I say he's got a case of tequila with him, he doesn't bring bottles.

[1518] When he lands, he's got two SUVs with the...

[1519] Freezer.

[1520] He's got a freezer in the back.

[1521] Minus four to minus six degrees with tequila in the back.

[1522] Sometimes I'll pull the tequila bottle out and a whole block of ice is stuck to the basement.

[1523] John was out one day and he's like...

[1524] Let me watch this and make sure.

[1525] We can cut it out.

[1526] Don't worry about it.

[1527] So John's like...

[1528] He had one shot left, so I was like, you know what?

[1529] I'm going to do everybody a favor.

[1530] I'll just finish this shot off so we don't have to worry about this bottle anymore.

[1531] So Rusty's like, here, you take the bottle.

[1532] John does the shot and throws the bottle out and goes against another bottle out of the truck.

[1533] John's like, fuck!

[1534] He's like, I thought we were done with this.

[1535] I imagine we're 25 minutes out.

[1536] Do you need me to pick you up?

[1537] Do you want to come here or whatever?

[1538] Don't make a hoot.

[1539] Come on over and hang out.

[1540] I'd love to show it to you, bubba.

[1541] Don't make a hoot.

[1542] Don't make a hoot.

[1543] He is...

[1544] One of my favorite people in the sport, by far.

[1545] Put my cowboy hat on last year.

[1546] Put my cowboy hat on.

[1547] He's the best.

[1548] I love that.

[1549] Carson, what do you got going on this weekend?

[1550] Cars Tour starts this weekend.

[1551] We're going to New River All -American.

[1552] Jacksonville.

[1553] Yeah, we talked about this last week.

[1554] I know you don't keep up with me well.

[1555] Who's going to win the cars?

[1556] Do you have favorites?

[1557] No, I can't have favorites.

[1558] Are you handing out black flags again this year?

[1559] No, and I'm so glad I don't have to listen to TJ run his fucking mouth about that anymore.

[1560] As if I'm in the tower, please.

[1561] Shout out who we got.

[1562] Who's driving the house cars?

[1563] Connor Hall.

[1564] Connor Hall and Caden Quappel.

[1565] Caden Quappel.

[1566] Yeah.

[1567] Good luck to them.

[1568] And I guess we'll see you guys.

[1569] I know you ran in some fans out.

[1570] We got a phone call from one of them.

[1571] Seen a bunch of fans at the racetrack.

[1572] All big Noel Greggson fans, of course.

[1573] But thanks for listening.

[1574] Shit.

[1575] We will see you guys next week.

[1576] Appreciate it.

[1577] See y 'all.

[1578] Cheers.

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