Ep. 3123 Here’s the TRUTH about the EPSTEIN FILES!!!

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[4] What about Jeffrey Epstein?

[5] Where are the videotapes from his home in New Mexico, from his Caribbean island, from his place on Fifth Avenue?

[6] There are all these videotapes now, you know, in federal hands.

[7] Why can't we see those?

[8] And we can't see them, of course, because there's like a massive blackmail operation run by various intel agencies designed to put famous people under the control of governments.

[9] Of course, that's what it was, obviously.

[10] And everyone knows that.

[11] But no one can say anything about it.

[12] And as a friend of mine said, we were talking about this one night, and he goes, you know, if you think about it, like, if you're...

[13] able to kill somebody in the secure block in federal lockup in Manhattan and get away with it, probably not someone you want to dick around with.

[14] Like that's a powerful force.

[15] And that's a fair point.

[16] It makes everyone feel impotent.

[17] It makes everyone paranoid.

[18] It makes everyone feel like nothing's on the level.

[19] We wind up with a society where no one believes anything.

[20] And I feel like that's where we are.

[21] The number of people I know who are like, wow, I've become a really deranged conspiracy theorist who doesn't believe in the moon landing.

[22] I must know 100 people who said that to me in the last two years.

[23] Trust me, if you don't feel that way, you're just not admitting it because you do feel that way.

[24] If you're attention.

[25] So what's really going on with the botched Epstein files release?

[26] It's now just over three hours after 8 a .m. on the East Coast, which was the deadline for the FBI to hand over all their Epstein files to Attorney General Pam Bondi.

[27] What's really going on here?

[28] Well, that's exactly what we're going to get to the bottom of.

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[41] So as many of you know, the FBI office in New York is reportedly withholding thousands of pages of documents pertaining to the federal government's investigation into one Jeffrey Epstein.

[42] In a letter addressed to FBI Director Cash Patel, Attorney General Pam Bondi said that she initially requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein before Patel was sworn in last Friday.

[43] In response, the agency reportedly forfeited approximately 200 pages of documents, which consisted of nothing more than a bunch of flight logs and Epstein's list of contacts, basically a flight and phone Rolodex when all said and done.

[44] Bondi reportedly, repeatedly questioned the FBI about whether that batch of 200 pages, now that's key, hold on to that, 200 pages was the full set of documents responsive to her inquiry.

[45] And according to Bondi, She was repeatedly assured by the FBI that, yep, that's it, 200 pages.

[46] That's it.

[47] That's the full set of docs.

[48] We all know, if you've been following this for any length of time, we all know that is patently absurd on its face.

[49] In June of 2019, FBI agents raided Epstein's townhouse in New York City.

[50] and found safe with a treasure trove of computer hard drives, video.

[51] Why do you keep a computer in a safe?

[52] Why do you keep videos in a safe?

[53] Why do you keep tapes and iPads and laptops in the safe?

[54] What was on them?

[55] Where they needed to be secured?

[56] And where are they now?

[57] Have they been transcribed?

[58] I assure you, if they've been transcribed, just like Hunter Biden's laptop, it would have been tens of thousands of pages.

[59] So this was patently absurd on its face.

[60] Well, Pam seemed to play along with that.

[61] And then after the big dud reveal yesterday.

[62] She then claimed that a whistleblower from within the FBI informed her that the FBI field office in the Southern District of New York was indeed in possession of thousands upon thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and indictment of Epstein.

[63] And then she claimed, Pam Bondi claimed, that despite her repeated requests, the FBI has refused to disclose and hand over those files.

[64] Now, the fact that we're dealing with alleged shenanigans coming out of the FBI's New York field office, in fairness to Pam Bondi, is hardly surprising.

[65] Now, if you didn't know, according to a report by The Federalist, the FBI's New York field office boasts quite the track record of engaging in frankly corrupt and seedy behavior.

[66] Specifically, if you didn't know this, the office took an active part.

[67] at the very beginning of the Obama administration's Trump -Russia collusion hoax.

[68] Now, this has been documented in the Durham report.

[69] It details how the FBI, New York field office, was instrumental in opening an investigation into then Trump's campaign official, Carter Page.

[70] So this was during the 2016 campaign.

[71] The report noted.

[72] How in April of 2016, shortly after Page was named as the advisor to the Trump campaign, this New York field office opened a counterintelligence investigation of him.

[73] Now, as the Federalist's own Tristan Justice reported, the investigation to Carter Page that originated in the New York field office then ended up getting.

[74] moved to the FBI headquarters under the direction of then FBI director James Comey, who then pushed for the fraudulent fake dossier compiled by the British agent Christopher Steele to be used to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump himself.

[75] Apparently, according to this investigation by the Federalists, that Russia collusion hoax spying operation all started.

[76] in this FBI field office in New York, the very field office that appears to be playing shenanigans with the Epstein files.

[77] Moreover, to make things even worse, I mentioned James Comey, right?

[78] Well, Maureen Comey, James Comey's daughter, who happens to be a rabid anti -Trumper, was the lead prosecutor at the Southern District of New York's Epstein trial.

[79] So as you can see, this field office is rather rife with unseemly characters.

[80] Now, that's basically where we are right now.

[81] Pam Bondi sent the letter to Kash Patel telling him to do a full investigation into what's been going on.

[82] And she gave an 8 a .m. deadline to produce all those thousands of documents for her office.

[83] A lot of it doesn't make sense because obviously Pam Bondi knew.

[84] There was a lot more than 200 pages.

[85] She obviously knew that.

[86] Just the court cases alone on Epstein that were tried, that put him behind bars, the court cases alone were thousands upon thousands of pages of evidence and data, which we're actually going to get into.

[87] We have a little bit of that to show you in case you did not know it.

[88] as we're trying to make sense of all of this, I think we need to start with our perception of what's happening here.

[89] I think we need to start there and then drill down, hopefully, to what's actually happening.

[90] And that's what I want to leave you with at the end.

[91] I think there are at least two dynamics that are operative here with this latest chapter in the Epstein saga that more or less define They define our perception of things.

[92] First and foremost, there is something that you may not know of, but it'll make total sense.

[93] There is something called the Caligula effect.

[94] And I think all the actors involved here are in some way infected with this.

[95] And this is what I think most of us are kind of enraptured with the Epstein saga.

[96] This is what we're drawn to because we're recognizing.

[97] that this Caligula effect has taken over our permanent political class.

[98] The Caligula effect is named after the first century Roman Emperor Caligula, who reigned from 37 AD to his assassination until assassination 41 AD.

[99] He was infamous for his utterly perverse and narcissistic behavior.

[100] But the key with the Caligula effect is that among our elite, This immoral, perverse behavior is actually a status symbol.

[101] You have to kind of get that to understand Epstein and all the people that he drew into his inner web at least at one level.

[102] It's this Caligula effect.

[103] It involves just the complete loss of moral constraint when one feels like they've achieved absolute power and a total lack.

[104] of any accountability.

[105] So when individuals attain positions of extreme power around those who have, throwing off the moral constraints that normally bind everyday people is seen as a symbol, a sign that one has indeed made it, that one stands on top of society, that one is not just above the law.

[106] One is literally above God.

[107] One is above God's moral law.

[108] So just like a mansion or a fancy car is a symbol of power and wealth, right, a status symbol, so is immoral behavior, historically speaking.

[109] This is a phenomenon that repeats itself over and over again.

[110] This is not the first time we've seen this.

[111] Immoral behavior, seedy, perverse behavior can actually serve as a status symbol.

[112] I'm so big, I don't have to play by society's rules or heaven's rules.

[113] And of course, this involves a heavy dose of narcissism where powerful individuals develop this exaggerated sense of self -worth and entitlement.

[114] Emperor Caligula declared himself a god and ordered the construction of a bridge between his palace and Jupiter's temple, for example.

[115] So there's clearly some malignant narcissism operative here.

[116] They certainly don't care about the people they abuse.

[117] But clearly, I think we're seeing something akin to this Caligula effect already with the revelation of the more than 100 national security agents across 15 agencies that were using a government chat platform to share explicitly lewd details of their LGBT lifestyles.

[118] Did you hear about this?

[119] I'm sure you all now aware.

[120] that the Biden administration was itself well aware of and continued, frankly, to allow highly sexualized chat rooms in our national security agencies for years.

[121] Nobody on Trump's administration stopped to think that this was a very real national security risk, that our enemies hacking into our systems could weaponize the sexually explicit information that these people were sharing.

[122] on a public government platform and that could be weaponized for nefarious purposes.

[123] But the key here is that the very fact that these hundred plus security agents felt perfectly free to turn a government chat platform into what amounted to be an X -rated porn hub with Biden officials perfectly fine with it, I think is an effect of this.

[124] It's an example of this Caligula effect.

[125] It functions as a status symbol of your power and your influence that stands above the masses and morality.

[126] Fortunately, they've all been fired.

[127] Tulsi has taken an axe to them, thank God.

[128] And this, to me, I think may be our first clue to why we got such a massive letdown from Pam Bondi.

[129] If we extend this Roman emperor motif to what happened for all of us, like since, you know, if you think it through, take a step back.

[130] Since January 20th, we've all felt.

[131] Like Marcus Aurelius, okay?

[132] If you don't know, he was the great philosopher emperor.

[133] He was the champion of justice and the people, the Roman people.

[134] You see, he's the emperor.

[135] It's a little bit, it's fictionalized, but he's the emperor in the movie Gladiator, okay?

[136] So he's the emperor that's killed by his evil son, but he wants to return the empire to the people.

[137] Right.

[138] So we feel we felt since January 20th that Marcus Aurelius, the great philosopher emperor, the champion of justice, has conquered D .C., just like, you know, ancient Rome.

[139] All the bad guys are running away.

[140] All the Caligulas are freaking out and scurrying.

[141] Right.

[142] We got Elon cleaning house.

[143] We got Tulsi cleaning house.

[144] It's all going great.

[145] What are we now in our 40th day?

[146] around 40th day of this administration.

[147] What are we in terms of wins?

[148] 40 and 0, right?

[149] 39 and 1 maybe.

[150] And that's, I think, what we're upset with yesterday.

[151] I think yesterday, many of us feel like that was our first big loss.

[152] We hit a snag.

[153] Pam Bondi, the attorney general, promises an Epstein bombshell reveal that would make what we learned about the security agency's chats look like kindergarten.

[154] only ending up to deliver the total dud that everyone who's been following the Epstein saga knew was a lie.

[155] They knew that those 200 pages were a total cover up.

[156] That's not a, what are you, a Rolodex?

[157] Freaking Rolodex?

[158] Especially after Bondi told us there were all these names of the victims and what I just saw was so sick and I'm going to share it with all of you.

[159] It's so hard, but I'm going to, it's important that you all get that.

[160] And then we basically get the equivalent of a telephone book.

[161] a flight log that we frankly already knew about.

[162] So it appeared, I think, to everyone here that as far as the Justice Department, the FBI were concerned, the Caligulas were still in charge.

[163] I mean, we could hear about the Caligulas still there, like Tulsi told us about, and then she just wipes them out.

[164] Marcus Aurelius is conquering Rome after all.

[165] But here we are, literally 24 hours after we're told we're going to get all these Epstein files released to us.

[166] And it looks like the Caligulas are the ones that are in charge, not Marcus Aurelius.

[167] At least when it comes to the Department of Justice and the FBI, the Caligulas are still running the place.

[168] So I think that's the first level of perception, disappointing perception that's here.

[169] And then that leads to the second level, the big level that's happening here.

[170] There's a second key obstacle in all this.

[171] And this is where I think things actually end up starting to make a bit of sense.

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[206] I have to say that with the second dynamic, I think we are all witnessing a deep state coup against the people, against the consent of the governed.

[207] So we've got this Caligula effect on the one hand, and we've got a deep state coup on the other.

[208] And I think this is a full -blown mutiny by the deep state.

[209] And this goes back, this literally goes back to the whole nature of the role that Epstein played here.

[210] It's no secret, as Tucker said at the very beginning of this video, that Epstein was a deep state plant.

[211] I think that's the only thing that could possibly explain how this guy got, first of all, his affluence and also his access to some of the most powerful men on the planet.

[212] He was helped.

[213] He was aided.

[214] He was abetted by very nefarious deep state actors that wanted to control and coerce and manipulate the most powerful men on the planet through blackmail.

[215] OK, and so if you think it through, when Pam Bondi.

[216] If think about it, Pam Bondi in her.

[217] in her request or her demand, her order, for all of these Epstein files to be made public.

[218] Think about what she was ordering.

[219] She was completely dependent on the deep state handing over the secrets about the deep state.

[220] Let that hit you.

[221] Pam Bondi basically ordered the deep state to hand over the secrets about the deep state.

[222] How do you think that's going to turn out?

[223] It's obviously a total contradiction of what these three -letter agencies have become.

[224] These three -letter agencies have become mechanisms of control manipulation.

[225] That's exactly what the whole Epstein PSYOP is all about.

[226] They're simply not going to voluntarily relinquish control of that which they control.

[227] Again, this just needs to be underscored in terms of really having a big picture understanding what's happening here.

[228] I mean, we now know, thanks to the Twitter files, we've done a number of videos.

[229] I've even written, there's a chapter in my book here on this.

[230] We now know, thanks to the Twitter files that were released by Elon.

[231] that on the night of Trump's first election back in November 2016, permanent Washington was absolutely panicked.

[232] We know that.

[233] We have the emails.

[234] And we know that something happened inside D .C. that night.

[235] It became widely accepted among the unelected bureaucrats who comprised permanent Washington that the consent of you, the governed, could no longer be trusted.

[236] Quite the contrary, proactive measures had to be taken to ensure that you, the people, the consent of you, the governed, could indeed be managed, coerced, and if necessary, thwarted by the deep state.

[237] And so the key here is that the deep state today.

[238] functions as an immune system to protect permanent Washington from the democratically expressed will of the people, from the consent of the governed.

[239] And so what we're seeing here with the apparent mutiny here, this coup from the Southern District of New York, is something that's going to have to be resolved, I believe, by Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

[240] Pam Bondi, just structurally speaking, when all is said and done, is an attorney.

[241] She's the nation's top attorney for sure.

[242] But in the end, she's an attorney.

[243] It's Cash and Dan who hold the real structural power over the FBI.

[244] And they need to clean house akin to how Tulsi has been cleaning house in the nation's intelligence agencies with these mass firings.

[245] Now, the good news, the good news is I do think that's exactly what Cash and Dan are going to do cash has consistently outlined a threefold vision for the fbi right we've talked about this a lot first and foremost he's planning on changing the location of the agency relocating it most likely in the heart of a solid red state and thereby change the culture the ethos of the agency to reflect more red state values secondly he wants to break up and distribute their concentrated power.

[246] So that would involve breaking up some of the agencies and outsourcing them to the other investigative bodies throughout the federal government, such as Homeland Security and Treasury and other investigative bodies.

[247] There's the possibility of breaking up the FBI actually in a four or five agencies with one responsible for counterintelligence, one responsible for counterterrorism, one for complex white color crime, one for cyber crimes and so on.

[248] And then thirdly, and this is really his first test.

[249] with this.

[250] Thirdly, Cash is actively creating a 24 -7 declassification office.

[251] And he said repeatedly that this would involve releasing the Epstein files and the Kennedy assassination files, 9 -11, and it's all aiming for greater transparency in government operations, but also exposing the FBI, the FBI of the past, supposedly.

[252] as an agency of the deep state in terms of how it's been harassing and imprisoning American citizens for their nefarious political purposes and exposed the various ways in which the deep state has undermined the democratic integrity of the republic.

[253] We are now watching in real time Cash's first real test.

[254] This is it.

[255] This Caligula coup.

[256] among agents in the FBI office, the field office in New York, who were refusing to turn over the Epstein files.

[257] So in response, if you don't know, Cash did tweet out a very stern and unequivocal warning.

[258] He said, quote, there will be no cover ups, no missing documents and no stone left unturned.

[259] And anyone from the prior or current bureau.

[260] who undermines this will be swiftly pursued.

[261] If there are gaps, we will find them.

[262] If records have been hidden, we will uncover them and we will bring everything we find to the DOJ to be fully assessed and transparently disseminated to the American people as it should be.

[263] The oath we take is to the Constitution and under my leadership, that promise will be upheld.

[264] without compromise.

[265] So in the end, and I think, I think at least from one angle, Pam Bondi overplayed her own hand in that she can't, we're finding out she can't force the deep state to come clean on its own deep state secrets.

[266] All she can do in effect in the end, again, is subpoena and indict.

[267] It's Cash who has the real power, Cash and Dan Bongino, who can force the agency to heal and give up their secrets as they fire agent after agent after agent after agent until they find a MAGA faithful agent who says, here you go.

[268] Here's the files.

[269] Where's my promotion?

[270] I mean, clearly, I think there may even Elon talked about this with Doge.

[271] They are starting to dangle carrots.

[272] It's not just a stick.

[273] It's carrots.

[274] You turn these, you become a whistleblower, you get promoted.

[275] That's how you do it.

[276] But again, that's how I think Tulsi's doing it, at least in terms of holding agents accountable to the people in the intelligence agencies.

[277] So in summary, to me, what I think we're all frustrated by, and again, this is at the perceptive level, is that this Caligula effect.

[278] where we're seeing our leaders and permanent Washington engage in the most perverse behavior imaginable without any semblance of accountability, sort of staying in power and staying entrenched, particularly in the FBI.

[279] And then secondly, that Caligula effect is turning into a coup that is pushing back against the will of the people and intentionally thwarting the consent of the governed.

[280] So that's why I'm calling it.

[281] Overall, what we're all pissed about and really upset about, I'm calling the Caligula coup.

[282] And in the end, this Caligula coup is going to require some real brass knuckle power moves to overcome this deep state mutiny against the people.

[283] And then again, perhaps if we go one more level higher in our analysis, Perhaps Cash and Bondi knew this going in.

[284] Perhaps they could it be that when they were saying, oh, yeah, we're going to release 200 documents and that's all of it.

[285] Could it be that they knew that was BS?

[286] Could it be that they're actually setting everybody up inside?

[287] The New York field office?

[288] There are some are arguing that we're actually seeing some 4D chess play out.

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[309] Now, most of us, most of what we've learned thus far about the Epstein files have come out of litigation cases from some of the victims, particularly one involving the court documents from Virginia Giuffre and her case against Ghislaine Maxwell.

[310] Those court documents have been made popular.

[311] And what was so significant about that case is that we finally learned some of the names of the John Does that were up until that time referenced during litigation, among whom are those alleged to have been perpetrators and witnesses to Jeffrey Epstein's criminal conduct, his Caligula effect.

[312] And again, we need to be just we have to be very clear here.

[313] And I'm glad to see I'm seeing it in a lot of coverage here.

[314] Not all of the John Does, not all of the names that are revealed are predators or have been alleged to have done any anything wrong here.

[315] Some of them were merely doctors to the victims.

[316] Some are merely friends or family members to the victims.

[317] Some were simply associates of Epstein's and knew nothing, nothing more.

[318] We need to be clear that not everyone.

[319] who's named in these documents are accused of having done anything wrong.

[320] For example, it's widely recognized President Trump's name appears in the documents, but he wasn't accused of any wrongdoing whatsoever.

[321] He never visited any of Epstein's homes or his islands, never had any contact with his victims.

[322] As far as we can tell, he actually found Epstein to be quite the creep.

[323] So just because some names got exposed doesn't mean that they did anything wrong.

[324] That needs to be said.

[325] That said, it's from this cache of documents that were released from Virginia Dufresne's case that we learned that former President Bill Clinton had a very long and rather intimate relationship with Epstein.

[326] We even have photos of Bill Clinton getting a back massage from one of Epstein's victims.

[327] We know that despite claiming that he had only met Epstein a couple of times, I can't really remember him.

[328] I think I met him.

[329] We now know that Epstein was a major fundraiser for Clinton all throughout his presidency.

[330] In fact, Lady Maxwell was an invited guest who attended Clinton's daughter's wedding.

[331] But those files gave us a behind -the -scenes look at Clinton's activities with Epstein.

[332] They hung out together.

[333] They flew on Epstein's private jet.

[334] I mean, it was pretty sick stuff.

[335] But the second most damning allegation from these files involved, of course, Prince Andrew, who was accused of participating in an orgy with numerous underage girls at Jeffrey Epstein's private islands in the U .S. Virgin Islands.

[336] And of course, there were scores of others.

[337] But this, as we've been learning.

[338] is really all just the tip of the iceberg.

[339] Again, just going back to that seizure of all the videos and tapes and hard drives and iPads and laptops that Epstein stored at his Manhattan townhouse, we still to this day have no idea what was on this.

[340] Five years later.

[341] So this is the kind of data on Epstein that the FBI has in its possession.

[342] The $10 ,000 question is what happened to it.

[343] According to investigative reporter Michael Schellenberger, an FBI whistleblower is confirming that the FBI has been actively destroying this evidence related to Epstein.

[344] Epstein and JFK, interestingly enough.

[345] We'll have to see.

[346] But in the meantime, here's the possible 4D chess that some are considering here.

[347] Cash and Pam know exactly what's going on.

[348] They're not idiots.

[349] They know what's going on.

[350] They know much of the evidence has already been destroyed.

[351] Now, of course, that's a felony, right?

[352] Tampering or destroying evidence is a felony.

[353] So there may indeed be indictments coming out of all this.

[354] Well, again, we'll have to see.

[355] But at the very least, there's going.

[356] At the very least, it appears that Pam and Cash are using the missing Epstein files as an excuse to clean house and fire en masse those agents from the FBI field office in New York.

[357] In other words, the idea that Cash and Pam actually legitimately believe that the Epstein files were only 200 pages is not even remotely believable.

[358] Again, we all know that 2019, a raid alone would have yielded thousands upon thousands of pages of notes and transcripts.

[359] The DOJ brought prosecutions against Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell years ago, and the dockets and public evidence from those cases alone run thousands upon thousands of pages.

[360] 200 pages were nothing.

[361] 200 pages was the introduction.

[362] It's obviously and patently bogus.

[363] Yet, Pam clearly played along with it.

[364] Right on, if I recall, it was the Jesse Watershow.

[365] She clearly played along with it.

[366] She appeared at least to play along with it.

[367] Why?

[368] She's not an idiot.

[369] I know a lot of people are saying, oh, she's an idiot.

[370] We got played.

[371] No, you don't advance through the ranks in the Republican.

[372] Well, yes, in the Democrat world, through bio -Leninism.

[373] Sure, sure, you've got plenty of competence.

[374] Competence, what's the term I'm looking for?

[375] Yeah, just people with a confidence crisis, shall we say there.

[376] But in the Democratic Party, not so much the Republican Party.

[377] And we're seeing it with Trump's entire team is astonishing.

[378] Even Elon said it the other day.

[379] This is the most amazing cabinet ever in the history of American politics.

[380] She's not an idiot.

[381] I don't buy that.

[382] She knew that what was going to be revealed.

[383] What that revealed yesterday, she knew it was going to be nonsense.

[384] She knew that going into this.

[385] So why is she doing this?

[386] In the end, many are arguing this was a psyop.

[387] But ironically, it was a psyop conducted on the deep state.

[388] The FBI in particular, and they bought.

[389] They bit, I should say.

[390] They took the bait.

[391] This whole operation launched by Pam and Cash exposed the snakes inside the FBI, the Caligula coup inside the FBI, and now they can conduct a massive cleaning house operation where all the agents that have been involved with the Epstein files, particularly those in the New York field office, are all going to be fired.

[392] Bondi and Cash both know that all that evidence, particularly from the 2019 raid, was most likely destroyed precisely because it implicates the FBI and the deep state itself.

[393] And so when all of a sudden done, they're just using all of this as a basis to just fire all of these agents and employees.

[394] So that would explain, at least in part, why it appeared that Pam Bondi was going along with this nonsense that 200 pages can constitute the entire Epstein files.

[395] None of that made.

[396] So we'll have to see how all of this plays out.

[397] But I do think it's all but certain that there are going to be massive firings at the FBI.

[398] I think that's baked into the cake.

[399] I think the insubordination was revealed.

[400] I think those who engaged in the Caligula coup are now being identified as we speak.

[401] And that is being used as the basis to completely.

[402] and fully clean house, particularly in this New York FBI division, so that we can finally get our government back.

[403] But when all said and done, until we get the full answers as to what's really happening, at least when it comes to the FBI, the perception will continue to linger that the Caligulas remain in charge for Now, over to you guys, over to you as Josh and Micah, some of your questions.

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[435] All right, Josh, Michael, what do we got?

[436] What do we got?

[437] What do we got?

[438] What are some of the Q &A or Q's?

[439] I'll give you the A's here.

[440] Ben, question.

[441] Dr. Steve, will Kash Patel go to New York City, kick ass and take names in the FBI office?

[442] An old country phrase for taking control.

[443] It's reported it's not disclosing all the information in regards to the Jeffrey Epstein case.

[444] Tulsi's not happy with the New York City office.

[445] So that's what I am personally excited about is Tulsi's involvement in this because we're already seeing that Tulsi.

[446] is willing to crack skulls.

[447] So she's already firing.

[448] She fired that whole, you know, that weird group of the 100 and the 15 different agencies that were using government chat to discuss basically X -rated porn discussions.

[449] So she's already firing them.

[450] I think so.

[451] I think Cash is going to, or at least Dan Bongino is deputy.

[452] This to me, in the end, this to me is what this is what encourages me because I I don't know Pam very well, but I do see I do have a sense of cash.

[453] Cash has proven his worth back in 2020.

[454] Big time when he's the one who.

[455] who launched the investigation that uncovered the Russian collusion hoax.

[456] He stood by President Trump after J6.

[457] So did Pam, you know, in fairness as well.

[458] And then we all know Dan Bongino.

[459] I mean, Dan's Dan's characters is second to none.

[460] So, yes, I think in the end they're going to take out.

[461] I think I honestly believe this was a psyop to take out the New York division.

[462] I do take out at least the Caligula coup forces that remain there.

[463] RoboGuy, thank you so much, RoboGuy, for the super chat.

[464] I'm sorry, the crypto Bitcoin thing, I've seen more bad examples than good.

[465] Scams, the NFT mess, those stupid ideas for buying JPEGs, channels getting hacked and showed crypto stuff, etc. I'm all for separate currency, but I don't know about this.

[466] No, I'm with you.

[467] I'm with you, RoboGuy75.

[468] You got to be careful.

[469] So we have like Dan Ryder of Prime DeFi.

[470] It's one of the first things he'll always say.

[471] You've got to be careful when you get into the world of crypto because there's all kinds.

[472] I mean, when I go on my Coinbase account, there's all kinds of new coins popping up left and right.

[473] That said, that said, the far more what we call stable coins, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, so forth.

[474] I mean, I think their integrity has been clearly established.

[475] There's no way BlackRock is investing in all of a seedy scam.

[476] There's no way Trump is investing in a CD scam or Michael Saylor of MicroStrategy.

[477] So I would make a distinction between the stable coins and the crypto that's been very well established over the years and then all of these kind of scams and NFTs that are just popping up left and right.

[478] Sure, it's cyberspace.

[479] It's kind of a...

[480] you know, pirate dominated seas.

[481] It's an unexplored space.

[482] Interestingly enough, we get the word astronaut from the same word as navigator or, you know, from sailing the seas, as it were.

[483] So sailing the stars and the astronautical.

[484] So I, yeah, you're going to, you're dealing with, you're dealing with the world that's only now getting inhabited.

[485] And there's going to be all kinds of nefarious characters trying to earn a quick buck.

[486] It's incumbent upon everybody who's involved in crypto and in cyberspace in general to do their own due diligence to protect themselves from those kinds of scams.

[487] So very good.

[488] Well, well, a well -earned warning.

[489] No question.

[490] Thank you, RoboGuy.

[491] Life of Brian.

[492] Great movie.

[493] I was expecting an overwhelming limited hangout with at least some interesting info.

[494] This was an insult.

[495] Pam Bondi was a attorney general of Epstein's base of operations.

[496] Yeah, in Florida.

[497] But she wasn't that was before he was convicted under under Bush.

[498] I don't know what you're talking about there.

[499] But yeah, I know it's we got nothing.

[500] We got nothing yesterday.

[501] Let's just be blunt.

[502] It was embarrassing.

[503] I think the content creators, the independent content creators that were part of it, that were given the folders, you know, had egg on their face.

[504] It did not look good.

[505] So that part to me, the rollout was disastrous.

[506] And I don't know quite how to make sense of that part.

[507] So, yeah, now some are going to turn around and blame Pam Bondi as if she's incompetent or she's a deep state op or something like that.

[508] Well, we'll see, but I don't think so.

[509] It just doesn't fit Trump's cabinet.

[510] But then again, there's always a Judas figure, right?

[511] So we'll have to see.

[512] Joan.

[513] I do not believe anything that Representative Maxwell Frost says, but where is he getting the idea that Trump and Musk are enriching themselves at our expense?

[514] I thought both men were serving without pay.

[515] They are, Joan.

[516] It's just a blatant lie.

[517] So right now, Democrats, you have to understand where the Democrats are right now.

[518] The Democrats are not trying to convince.

[519] the masses.

[520] They're not trying to convince the middle ground.

[521] They're not speaking to the masses.

[522] They're not speak when they're talking.

[523] This is a coup.

[524] This is a coup.

[525] This is a fascist.

[526] Take out.

[527] This is addicted.

[528] When they're talking that way, they're talking to their own rabid left wing constituents who have largely left them right now.

[529] So we're finding out, right, that all of these.

[530] All of these demonstrations that have been happening over the last week have all been bought and paid for by two of Soros' organizations.

[531] That's the beauty of Doge is you can actually follow the money.

[532] So we find that they've been bought and paid for by two of Soros' organizations.

[533] It's all AstroTurf protests.

[534] The fact of the matter, and we're seeing it with the drop in ratings.

[535] on CNN and MSNBC, the drop in the amount of people coming and visiting on the daily users of, say, the Washington Post.

[536] It's gone from 27 million daily to just 3 million in just a matter of a few years.

[537] We're seeing it in the, actually, the negative movement of Democrat registrations.

[538] People are giving up their Democrat registrations.

[539] They're registering independent or they're just not registering at all.

[540] They're just basically, I mean, What's her name?

[541] Karine Jean -Pierre, the former borderline illiterate spokesperson for the White House.

[542] She was just at the Harvard Kennedy School of Law.

[543] Why?

[544] I have no idea.

[545] Giving a talk, giving an interview.

[546] And she says she has not looked at news since.

[547] January 20th or something like that, or since November 5th.

[548] She hasn't even looked at, yeah, it would have been January 20th.

[549] She's, I'm doing a self -cleanse.

[550] I'm doing self -treatment.

[551] I was just so, I mean, to think that we're run by lunatics like that.

[552] So bottom line, Democrats have checked out.

[553] The Democrat grassroots, the voter has checked out.

[554] They feel incredibly defeated right now.

[555] democrat politicians are doing is they're doing everything they can to try to reawake and revivify the resistance as it were revivify their democrat base so they are talking absurd talking points because that's what their base feeds off of that's what their base is animated with i don't think it's again i don't think it's working the very fact that they have to keep going to this astroturfed um demonstrations and protests is a sign it's just not working.

[556] So that's where it's coming from.

[557] But no, obviously, Trump and Elon are not profiting off of this.

[558] Why would they need to?

[559] They have billions.

[560] They don't need to.

[561] It's absurd.

[562] Steve, we're all able to close down.

[563] Are we able to close down the Southern District of New York and take possession of all the records they're in if we are?

[564] Why haven't we done that already?

[565] I don't know the answer to that question.

[566] I don't know.

[567] I mean, we just closed down.

[568] What was it?

[569] How many chapters of the IRS?

[570] I think it was like 100 plus chapters of the IRS.

[571] And what was that?

[572] About 20 % or something of the IRS agencies around the country.

[573] And I would assume we could close down the SDNY.

[574] I don't see why not.

[575] But I don't know.

[576] I don't know the in and outs of that.

[577] I don't know.

[578] If we were able to do it, why have we not done that already?

[579] I think they may be in the process of doing just that.

[580] They may be in the process of shutting the whole thing down, using this as a psyop to reveal just how corrupt this Caligula coup operation in New York actually is.

[581] So we'll have to see.

[582] Benton, question, Dr. Steve, will Elon discover Goldfinger has stolen the gun from Fort Knox?

[583] This is hyperbole.

[584] What will happen to the economy if there's less gold than reported?

[585] Will heads roll if gold is missing?

[586] The U .S. appears to be not interested in deep sea mining of metals.

[587] Will Space Force be utilized in mining gold thought to be on certain asteroids?

[588] Very, very interesting stuff.

[589] Okay.

[590] Let's start.

[591] Well, so what I'm getting here with Fort Knox, which is very interesting, is the notion that Fort Knox, the security of Fort Knox, has been compromised by nefarious forces who have been helping themselves to the gold.

[592] So what they want to do is give a they want to check and and do a full account, a full audit of the gold that's there.

[593] And if there is gold that is missing, yes, heads will roll.

[594] The one thing that we are learning from the Trump administration, who was just talked about in his first cabinet meeting, where he looked at Pete Hegseth sitting next to him saying, hey, are all those generals and everybody are all the commanders that were responsible for the Afghan?

[595] pull out withdrawal disaster.

[596] Are they still working for us?

[597] Because if they are, I think they should be fired.

[598] But I'm not the secretary of defense.

[599] So I think the one thing that we have seen over these last 40 days is that this is an administration that loves firing.

[600] It loves holding the deep state and the administrative state accountable.

[601] So, yes, I think there will be.

[602] uh firings for that i'm not sure about the whole the deep sea mining of metals we'll have to i i don't have any uh i don't have uh any notion of that uh i don't know what will happen to the economy i don't think anything to be honest with you just because we're not connected to the gold standard more we're basically a t -bill based uh economy when all said and done um we we operate Our government at least operates based on the buying up of debt because we're the world's default currency.

[603] And when you're the world's default currency and other nations use your currency to buy oil and the like, natural gas and so forth, they don't want to use their dollar reserves to be translated back into their...

[604] indigenous currency because they lose money in the process so all they do when they when all of a sudden done is they just invest and they make actually more money they get three four five percent return by investing in treasury uh bonds in t -bills so we have trillions and trillions of dollars of t -bills but unfortunately the problem is that's all debt we have to pay that we have to pay that back but that is what we base our uh our economy our at least our federal government's income on not so much the gold standard.

[605] And then in terms of mining the asteroids, great question.

[606] I don't know the answer to that.

[607] That gets us into what's called astropolitics.

[608] So we've got geopolitics, but then we also have astropolitics, the politics that deal with satellites and space stations and going to Mars and Space Force and the like.

[609] And that will end up playing out.

[610] It's a very new world.

[611] As I understand, the laws governing our astropolitics are like total three pages.

[612] There's not much activity there yet, but it's going to grow astronomically, no pun intended, every single year.

[613] Terry, the push pollsters seem to be desperate to flip Virginia.

[614] And where it is is that Trump supporters will stay home the election because they don't think Lieutenant Winston Sears supports Donald Trump.

[615] Two candidates have filed for Republican primary if they even have a primary and not a convention and have until April 3rd to gather enough signatures.

[616] on a nominating petition.

[617] Is Virginia lost?

[618] Yeah, we'll have to see, Terry.

[619] I haven't done too much research on it.

[620] But for whatever reason, Winsome Sears does not appear to be a very popular candidate.

[621] It may be, like you said, it may be the push polls.

[622] But from what I'm seeing, just on a cursory level, she's no Glenn Youngkin in terms of her appeal.

[623] It's just bottom line.

[624] She's not.

[625] I'm not being prescriptive on.

[626] I'm just being descriptive.

[627] So I do think it would be good for Virginia's Republicans to hold a primary.

[628] It would be, well, yeah.

[629] No, I think Glenn Young should be involved in that in some way, shape, or form.

[630] Certainly, I think somebody from the, well, I think Mike Watley should definitely be, who's the chairman of the RNC, should be involved with that as well.

[631] Virginia is going to be huge in terms of the political realignment in our country.

[632] Think about what's happening.

[633] Not only are the Democrats losing voter registration by the day, they're literally hemorrhaging voter registration.

[634] Republicans are a plus in terms of voter registration virtually everywhere.

[635] Democrats are a minus.

[636] Democrats are losing registrations right now.

[637] They're just seen as losers.

[638] And you combine that then with the amount of voter fraud that's being identified and wiped out.

[639] So we saw, I think it was 500 ,000, 600 ,000 voters on Florida's rolls have just been cleaned up.

[640] These were.

[641] duplicate names.

[642] These are duplicate social security numbers.

[643] People would die.

[644] These are people who've moved out of Florida.

[645] Now, given Florida's population, 600 ,000 is a negligible percentage.

[646] But if you saw one or two percent, same sort of things going on.

[647] Glenn Youngkin has ordered something comparable in Virginia.

[648] You see the same kind of voter roll cleaning and purging.

[649] going on in state after state after state, which I think, by the way, the federal government could order.

[650] If Doge identified, for example, all this voter fraud in California, they could have a court force them to purge their roles.

[651] I mean, you're seeing a negative.

[652] You're seeing a drop in voter registration.

[653] You're seeing this massive voter roll purge.

[654] You're seeing...

[655] I mean, think about it.

[656] You're seeing all of these illegal migrants now being deported.

[657] I mean, you put that all together, that's a possible two, three, four, maybe 5 % shift to the right just across the map, the electoral map.

[658] And how much did Kamala win Virginia by, right?

[659] Four or five.

[660] So how much did she win Minnesota by?

[661] Three or four?

[662] How much did she win New Hampshire by?

[663] Two or three?

[664] So this is why, or New Jersey, right, by five?

[665] So this is what I mean.

[666] I think we are seeing this extraordinary shift, this political realignment to the right.

[667] It may be too late, though, or it may happen too late for this election coming up in 2025 in November.

[668] We'll have to see.

[669] But you think about all the people moving out of Northern Virginia, the property values apparently are going down dramatically because just people are leaving and people are not moving in.

[670] So we're going to, again, we're just going to have to see how it plays out in Virginia.

[671] I do have a feeling Virginia is going to switch back red at the end of all this, but it may take four years.

[672] Mark, Epoch Times article DOJ files misconduct complaint against judge overseeing challenge to transgender military ban.

[673] Does a misconduct complaint have any teeth?

[674] What is DOJ's recourse as the good judge doubles down in her political bench warfare against President Trump?

[675] Yeah, I mean, I think the.

[676] Yeah, it has teeth.

[677] It has teeth because, I mean, it's just going they're showing they're willing to go through the appellate process.

[678] But in the end, the and we just saw this the other day with Judge Roberts ruling in the end, the Supreme Court has made it very, very, very clear.

[679] They are going to side with the president in his executive powers.

[680] They've already done it with the immunity clause, as it were.

[681] They're going to do it with his ability to fire and hire as he sees fit.

[682] The president is the one who's ultimately in charge of the military and he can and he has every right.

[683] to discharge and ban those whose behavior, that's the key, whose behavior he believes to be problematic for the good discipline of the military.

[684] So it's just, again, it's just all an attempt to try to slow this down so as to try to find some kind of political momentum on the left to be able to offer some.

[685] kind of opposition and resistance.

[686] That's all it is.

[687] So don't pay a lot of attention to these activist judges.

[688] I would like to see at some point, at some time, the activist judges dealt with.

[689] I think it's going to be the Supreme Court that's going to crush them and say, enough with that.

[690] And you keep doing this.

[691] We are going to recommend your suspension, but we'll have to see.

[692] Hi, Q Elon.

[693] Thank you for the pound sterling.

[694] Elon said when Trump signs executive orders, the bureaucracy is not always carrying it out.

[695] The FBI are withholding evidence in New York.

[696] The rot is too widespread.

[697] Well, I think they're going in knowing how widespread the rot is.

[698] They're identifying it and then they're using that as the basis to dismiss those people.

[699] That's what you're seeing.

[700] The mass fire, we're already at about 100 ,000 federal workers fired.

[701] And we're only 40 days into this.

[702] What's it going to look like four years from now?

[703] Again, this is executive power.

[704] Trump gets to do this.

[705] It doesn't matter what happens in Congress.

[706] It doesn't matter what happens anyway.

[707] Trump gets to do this.

[708] The Supreme Court is going to recognize that.

[709] That's not a problem.

[710] And even if a federal judge gets in the way, they only get in the way in terms of rhetoric.

[711] Nobody in the executive branch is obeying them.

[712] They can use all kinds of...

[713] bureaucratic sleights of hand to frustrate any judge's ruling.

[714] You have to let these transgender soldiers back into the military.

[715] Oh, okay, sure, after you fill out 7 ,000 pages.

[716] Because once you've been discharged, by definition, you have to be, oh, well, you have to let them in automatically.

[717] Oh, okay, we can.

[718] Yeah, but that's, well, we're already done for this year for recruitment.

[719] So next year we'll do, you know, there's all kinds of.

[720] administrative walls that they're able to bureaucratically put up.

[721] So no, I think in the end, when all is said and done, the withholding of the evidence, the Caligula coups, they're all revealing who are the traitors, who believes that the government belongs to them rather than the people.

[722] And they're getting fired.

[723] So I don't think it's too widespread.

[724] I think it's widespread, that's for sure, but not too widespread.

[725] Dr. Sterling, the subject of the Epstein files, and I haven't looked at them or heard much rumblings about, and by the way, ROT Corp, one of our regulars, until just now, what can we reasonably expect to happen to some notable and influential individuals involved, probably skeptical, but I personally doubt a Democrat -affiliated individual is going to face any real scrutiny, and if they do, who do you think will be the sacrificial lambs?

[726] Any one Republican -affiliated on the other side, pretty sure they're doomed.

[727] So, yeah, so this is...

[728] So this is the problem with indictments.

[729] This is the problem with actually holding these people accountable as opposed to just firing them.

[730] It's not just Democrats.

[731] It's not just, and we all know this.

[732] When it comes to Epstein, it's not just Democrats.

[733] It's the establishment.

[734] It's permanent Washington.

[735] It's the political class.

[736] And the political class, unfortunately, is made up of a lot of establishment Republicans.

[737] So that's the one thing that so so the the pressure.

[738] That's being brought to bear, I'm sure, on cash and Pam on Dan Bongino from from higher up is is going to involve and I'm talking Congress, particularly Senate and congressional leaders is going to be.

[739] I'm trying to protect.

[740] the identities, if not of actual congressmen, some very close donors.

[741] So that's why I think in many respects, this is a psyop.

[742] Pam Bonney went on TV, went on Jesse Waters, announced what they were going to do tomorrow.

[743] Uh, everybody, you know, in, in the New York field office scrambles, tries to, to, to, to shred everything and destroy all of us.

[744] And, and then a whistleblower comes out talking about, and that's all they needed.

[745] All right.

[746] Identify who it was that was destroying it.

[747] Good.

[748] They're gone.

[749] I think, ironically, I think it's that simple, but to go to the next level and start perp walking and dieting and so forth that, um, they have to be careful because they're only doing it.

[750] to Democrats and they're not doing it to Republicans.

[751] And I don't know.

[752] I don't know which Republican names are on there.

[753] They're only doing it to Democrat donors, not Republican donors.

[754] They're going to be seen by this new supermajority of the normal, as it were.

[755] They're going to be seen as being unfair and playing politics.

[756] And that didn't play well for Biden.

[757] So we just have to be very careful.

[758] The moment the law is seen as weaponized for one's own personal gain.

[759] People will turn on you.

[760] So, so far, Trump has played his cards perfectly.

[761] Doge, Musk have played their cards perfectly on this.

[762] That's, again, what the Democrats are trying to stick on them.

[763] Oh, they're doing it for their own game.

[764] Yeah, right.

[765] Just like, you know, you guys have been doing.

[766] But I don't know if we're going to see any actual indictments just because of who it could implicate on the side that upsets the good guys.

[767] That's just a sense I have.

[768] I don't know.

[769] JRG Projects.

[770] Thank you for the gift.

[771] In what capacity will Trump get involved?

[772] Clearly, Pam Bondi and Kash Patel will need his authority to act.

[773] These files are one of the pillars of his administration.

[774] Arrests need to be made.

[775] Your thoughts.

[776] All right.

[777] So going backwards, I get you.

[778] I don't know if the arrests are going to happen just because.

[779] of all the people who could end up getting implicated.

[780] Again, we'll just have to see how that plays out.

[781] No, Trump has made it clear.

[782] Musk has made it clear.

[783] Trump said it blatantly.

[784] I thought it was on a Sean Hannity show while he was campaigning that they would be making the Epstein files public.

[785] So no, I'm with you.

[786] I think the credit...

[787] A certain level of credibility for just his administration is on the line here.

[788] So we're going to have to see.

[789] And we're going to have to see how they play this out.

[790] But again, I remain convinced that what we've seen in the last 24, 36 hours was a PSYOP on the deep state to identify the Caligula coup.

[791] Who are the ones that are being, who are.

[792] who are recalcitrant, who are doubling down on resisting the Trump administration from the New York field office and then just canning their asses.

[793] It's just going to be an excuse to can their asses.

[794] Very comparable to what Tulsi did with those X -rated chat agents in the 15 different intelligence agencies.

[795] David Rose, Dr. Turley, what's your favorite new freedom development since our 5th of November victory?

[796] Or if it's too hard to choose one, maybe list your top three.

[797] So I, yeah, I've said, I think my, I do have three.

[798] I do have three.

[799] So the border security and the mass deportations, that's absolutely essential, huge.

[800] I couldn't just.

[801] The second, I mean, I cannot underscore how much that was changing our country permanently were we not to get the border under control.

[802] You cannot demographically reverse the country after a few years.

[803] And we were well on our way to a permanent restructuring of our country.

[804] to enact that would institute a Democrat permanent supermajority for the foreseeable future.

[805] So that at least at the federal level, that was huge.

[806] The second one is a wish, I got to say, and that is the abolition of the IRS.

[807] He is only toyed with that.

[808] So I'm fudging a little bit, but that to me would be gigantic.

[809] If the Democrats no longer had class warfare, to play off of, I think they would cease to exist as a party.

[810] And then, um, so one actual one hypothetical or, or, or one subjunctive, it may happen.

[811] And then the third one for me as just a dad, um, the, uh, the ban on trans athletes competing with girls.

[812] I just, um, for me, I think a nation that does that is morally sick.

[813] And as long as we were doing that, We were exemplifying the fact that we were being run by lunatics.

[814] And that lunacy for me doesn't stop.

[815] It's not like it has some bedrock where it just kind of sinks lower, lower.

[816] And, oh, OK, we'll stop here.

[817] It will just keep going.

[818] And it will eventually undo itself.

[819] That's what evil does.

[820] The best thing about rot is that it rots.

[821] Rotting things end up rotting, right?

[822] So that's good.

[823] degenerating things and degenerating.

[824] So, but I just thought that really needed to be, we needed to put a stop on that.

[825] So if you follow the channel, you can see there's a border security, there's an economic security and a cultural security all kind of wrapped up in our civilizationalist populism.

[826] So there you go, Davros.

[827] Blood, the Impaler, the Epstein files did not kill himself.

[828] That should have been the title of this video.

[829] I love it.

[830] Maybe we'll change it.

[831] We'll give Vlad the Impaler the SC the credit.

[832] I love it.

[833] Fuzzy Toes, what are your thoughts about Gene Hackman's death?

[834] Dang, I don't know.

[835] Is that not the weirdest freaking thing?

[836] I mean, Alex Jones, like, I mean, no one does a headline like Alex Jones.

[837] Mummified bodies of Gene Hackman and his wife.

[838] I'm like, mummified.

[839] I'm like.

[840] God.

[841] Well, I mean, I was listening to one corner the other night, and he did say it does sound something like carbon monoxide poisoning.

[842] Is it carbon dioxide?

[843] I forget.

[844] I think it's monoxide, right?

[845] Poisoning.

[846] Because, I mean, you don't just have two people and a pet all just kind of die.

[847] Two people die and the pet survives, okay?

[848] Maybe a double suicide or something.

[849] Or one person dies, the pet dies, and the other person survives.

[850] Okay, well, they were distraught over the pet and there's pills around it.

[851] But all three, the couple and the pet, that does suggest something was in the air.

[852] Now, I know apparently there were signs of pills, but again, we don't know.

[853] We don't know, was she taking the pills when she passed out and died?

[854] So, because apparently this...

[855] Carbon monoxide poisoning really is a silent killer.

[856] You don't know what's happening until it's too late.

[857] You're out.

[858] There's no pain, nothing.

[859] You're just out.

[860] But we're going to have to see.

[861] Yeah, it's just really odd.

[862] And it's sad.

[863] Gene, as an artist, he was absolutely brilliant.

[864] One of the best actors out there.

[865] I mean, he played so many iconic roles.

[866] I loved his role as the commander of USS Alabama in Crimson Tide.

[867] That was brilliant with Denzel Washington.

[868] I mean, the chemistry they had together was riveting for two hours.

[869] I mean, that was a brilliant film.

[870] I love him as the sheriff in The Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood.

[871] That's the other thing.

[872] He knocks sparks off with the other character actors he played with.

[873] He was just brilliant.

[874] I mean, he was Lex Luthor, right?

[875] The original Christopher Reeves Superman.

[876] I mean, in the Poseidon Adventure, he was the pastor in the Poseidon Adventure.

[877] Brilliant, brilliant.

[878] Amazing death scene at the end where he gave up his life for others as a Christ figure.

[879] I mean, he was an amazing actor and he did some amazing roles.

[880] So God bless him.

[881] R .I .P. Mercenary, this is all kabuki theater.

[882] Martial law is coming.

[883] All right.

[884] Bring it on.

[885] Bring it on.

[886] I don't know.

[887] No, I'm not saying, oh, authoritarianism.

[888] Authoritarianism.

[889] We shall see.

[890] Terry, do you anticipate the Trump administration losing any of the 80 plus lawsuits against it?

[891] I honestly don't.

[892] They may lose one or two in consequential ones.

[893] But these lawsuits are Hail Marys.

[894] They're not even Hail Marys.

[895] They're attempts to just try to slow the process down.

[896] And it's not working, by the way.

[897] The executive branch is laughing at them.

[898] Again, the beauty is because, oh, we're complying, we're complying.

[899] But then they just they threw up all the administrative and bureaucratic walls to prevent what these judges are.

[900] are requiring they enact.

[901] And most of them are restraining orders, or at least a lot of them are.

[902] So they have a built -in obsolescence to it.

[903] But no, I think the Supreme Court is going to rule in June that the executive branch has the power to remake the executive branch.

[904] The executive branch does not have a power of its own apart from the power of the president.

[905] And that power of the president is invested by the people.

[906] Stephen, clearly the FBI is obstructing.

[907] What recourse options are available to Pam and Cash?

[908] Can they close the Southern District New York FBI office and fire them all?

[909] I don't know if they can close the office.

[910] I'm assuming they can.

[911] I'm assuming they can.

[912] Why not, right?

[913] We're closing IRS offices.

[914] Why not?

[915] Close the SDNY.

[916] And yes, I think they can fire as many of the agents as they want.

[917] Yes, I think they can.

[918] They just need an excuse.

[919] And that's why I think this was, I frankly think this was, in the end, a SIOP.

[920] None of it made sense.

[921] And now it's starting to make sense.

[922] It was all a SIOP.

[923] And it was all there to identify.

[924] And then have a paper trail for identifying the...

[925] Caligula coup agents and then firing them, bottom line.

[926] And rather than just kind of go in and fire them en masse.

[927] So I asked for these and you never gave them, oh, yes, we did.

[928] We told you what we did.

[929] No, no, we have an absolute, I am publicly saying, I want all the documents.

[930] They told me they gave them all the documents.

[931] Here they are.

[932] Oh, wait, these aren't all the documents.

[933] You're right.

[934] Whistleblower comes out and says, no, they're hiding a thousand in there.

[935] Okay, great.

[936] Who's hiding a thousand?

[937] Well, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this person was in charge.

[938] Give me the files.

[939] Who was in charge?

[940] All right, good.

[941] All right, done.

[942] You get your promotion.

[943] The rest are fired.

[944] That's basically what's been going on with Doge.

[945] That's what's going on with Tulsi.

[946] And by the way, Tulsi does have some oversight with the FBI as well as National Director of Intelligence.

[947] I would not want to be one of them right now.

[948] Let's just put it that way.

[949] Maximilian, another complicated question.

[950] Building up my last two questions, the Hegelian dialectic and idealism versus materialism.

[951] What exactly is dialectical materialism?

[952] What does it get right?

[953] What does it get wrong?

[954] And what is its role in Marxism?

[955] Okay.

[956] Maximilian, I need a cup of coffee before you come on in.

[957] You're wonderful.

[958] Maximilian is the kind of student that probably sits just slightly to the side of the classroom or slightly away from the end of the classroom to the side and then always raises his hand very slowly.

[959] And when I look at him, I go, oh boy, this guy just doesn't stop thinking.

[960] This is so good.

[961] So you're like.

[962] a dream student maximilian and that's for a prof or a teacher whatever so dialectical materialism is as i understand it it is mark's adaptation of hegelianism that implies the thesis antithesis duality that always end up in some kind of synthesis or i should say binary that ends up in some kind of synthesis he applied it to class So you have multiple classes in society, say a feudalistic society.

[963] And they begin kind of playing off each other, knocking sparks off each other.

[964] And then two of the classes begin merging into a new thesis.

[965] Another couple of classes merge into a thesis.

[966] And then all of a sudden, what do you have?

[967] You have a new thesis and antithesis.

[968] You have these two binaries.

[969] And then eventually, they end up merging.

[970] what he called the proletariat class, that is what Hegel would kind of call the end of history.

[971] Francis Fukuyama borrowed from Hegel to make the argument for liberal democracy, that all the different political ideas were ultimately melding into liberal democracy.

[972] For Marx, all the different economic ideas and class dynamics were eventually melding into a single class, a single super thesis, as it were, or super synthesis.

[973] What does it get right?

[974] Well, I mean, I do think ideas combine.

[975] I mean, I argue for something, right, like Guillaume Phi's thesis of archaeofuturism.

[976] So I'm seeing...

[977] traditional sentiments and technological sentiments, religious sentiments and scientific sentiments that were absolutely insisted on and being in entirely two different domains during the modern period.

[978] I see that insistence collapsing and they're now knocking sparks off each other as we're seeing with the new trad right and the new tech right.

[979] J .D. Vance embodies that beautifully.

[980] He's made his money in tech.

[981] And he is a trad Catholic.

[982] So he's a tech trad.

[983] So science and religion are increasingly merging more and more.

[984] There's something called techno mysticism, right?

[985] Techno populism and populism.

[986] Scholars have found populist movements tend to be very religious.

[987] The people tend to be very there.

[988] They are the preservers of folk religion.

[989] It's the elites.

[990] the Caligulas that tend to reject it.

[991] So I guess in a sense, I ascribe to a kind of sort of dialectical materialism in a sense where two opposites do kind of converge into a new synthesis.

[992] What I disagree with Marx on is how dialectical materialism, as he used it, could be used as a meta -theory.

[993] for like the world, for the globe.

[994] And that was the air that people were breathing back in the 19th century, 18th and 19th century.

[995] It's what launched colonialism, at least in part.

[996] That was the idea.

[997] We were all looking for that one size fits all political and economic system that would bring peace and harmony to the world.

[998] And so I think Marx got caught up in that.

[999] And so he believed that this was a meta theory that defined.

[1000] the entire world's economies all converging into one.

[1001] Whereas, you know, I believe as part of this archaeofuture outworking that the world is actually breaking up into multiple solar systems, as it were, to multiple civilizational worlds, the great power blocks, where they can have their own syntheses, sort of just merge or heal their own binaries.

[1002] But the idea that there's going to be one set binary, no, that's our one set synthesis.

[1003] Nah, that's not.

[1004] I just don't see that.

[1005] One world government, we tried it, and it's been an absolute failure, just largely because of the geospecificity of our religions when all is said and done.

[1006] Most ecological anthropologists recognize that religion and our music and our culture.

[1007] are all very specific to our ecology, to our geography, because it's all about creating a holistic Anthropocene.

[1008] It's all about creating a holistic anthropological matrix where we are able to adapt to and adapt to our environment and adapt our environment increasingly to ourselves.

[1009] And so we tend to be spatially, geographically very specific people.

[1010] Japanese will always be different than Texans.

[1011] There's no way around it.

[1012] Texans will always be different than Nigerians.

[1013] No way around it because, again, of the specificity of religion and how religion is part and parcel.

[1014] of, of who we are in terms of our space.

[1015] And so I don't think there's just one size fits all economic system for every, uh, for all people, though, though there can be a, uh, a dialectic, uh, a, a synthesis of two opposites brought together within those systems.

[1016] And I guess, you know, in a sense, uh, a generalized one, like what I have, like this archaeo future, uh, world that's emerging, that seems to be applying to everyone.

[1017] But it's not happening by virtue of a Hegelian law.

[1018] I think it's just happening by just very organic processes.

[1019] And that's just how it ended up turning out, as it were.

[1020] I would argue largely because I don't think religion ever disappeared.

[1021] I don't think this binary of religion versus science ever really existed.

[1022] So there's the French scholar, Bruno Latour.

[1023] the anthropologist of science who has that wonderful book, We Were Never Modern.

[1024] That's a good one for you, Maximilian, by the way, take a look at that.

[1025] We Were Never Really Modern or something like that.

[1026] So what he's doing is he's a French theorist and anthropologist of science.

[1027] And he's responding to this notion of a postmodern world.

[1028] And he says, there is no postmodern world.

[1029] Because we were never modern to begin with.

[1030] We never believed only in science and not religion.

[1031] We never believed only in technology and not magic.

[1032] And so, no, we've always been religious.

[1033] We've always believed in magic.

[1034] We've always believed in mythology and so forth.

[1035] As a matter of fact, this idea that reason...

[1036] has freed us from mythology, he would argue, is just a modernist myth.

[1037] Or that science is now the one true way we can understand all things, no longer religion.

[1038] Well, that's our new religion.

[1039] That's what we're putting all our hope for, and scientists are now our priesthood and the like.

[1040] So religion never went anywhere.

[1041] It's just that the new religion, the modernist, scientific, rationalist religion, just wasn't a very good one.

[1042] And so it's kind of dissipating, and now the traditional religious societies are able to...

[1043] They're basically breaking through the compost or the rot of the modern world with their blossoming of their seeds that never disappeared to begin with.

[1044] So there you go, Maximilian.

[1045] Enrique Sanchez Music.

[1046] Thank you for the gift, sir.

[1047] If this shows anything, it proves MAGA is not a cult and is willing to call out things regardless of the administration.

[1048] Amen.

[1049] I love it.

[1050] I think you're absolutely right.

[1051] And I've noticed, I think, perfectly legitimate critiques of Pam Bondi, perfectly legitimate critiques of the Trump administration as a whole in terms of how they're handling this.

[1052] Yes.

[1053] Yeah, absolutely.

[1054] They're not a cult.

[1055] They're going to call them out.

[1056] Now, again, I do think the criticism that she's stupid doesn't work and Pam Bondi doesn't work or that she's just totally compromised doesn't work because it doesn't fit with this amazing cabinet.

[1057] But she did embarrass our fellow content creators, our independent content creators.

[1058] She did embarrass them.

[1059] They were the ones that were given the notebook.

[1060] And the notebook was filled with a Rolodex when all is said and done, a flight and phone Rolodex.

[1061] So I don't like the fact that she did that.

[1062] And it's very unclear of what's happening.

[1063] But if in the end, the entire division that was behind the sort of coup, this Caligula coup gets fired, I think we'll kind of go, oh, OK, cool, cool.

[1064] Now, well, they destroyed it all.

[1065] Ah, crap.

[1066] All right, let's move on.

[1067] Or let's reveal it.

[1068] But again, I just I think the way even the way they've been handling the RFK files.

[1069] how there has to be a congressional committee oversight.

[1070] No, I mean, it's very frustrating.

[1071] And it just goes to show that there is this mentality in Washington that all this stuff belongs to them and not us.

[1072] And we're almost a nuisance.

[1073] And I don't like that.

[1074] And I'm even seeing that a little bit in some MAGA people, Republican people.

[1075] So you're right now, we can push back against that big time.

[1076] Very good, Enrique.

[1077] Enrique, thank you.

[1078] XJ, Cherokee Bear, do you think Andrew Guillaume will run again in 26?

[1079] And is he still alive?

[1080] I doubt it.

[1081] I don't know.

[1082] Maybe he will.

[1083] I don't see much of a chance of a Democrat coming to any prominence of power in Florida for the foreseeable future.

[1084] Am I thinking of the right person, Andrew Guillaume?

[1085] the guy that DeSantis originally ran against back in, what was it, 2018, who we found out was like a crack addict and stuff.

[1086] Bloody Impaler, my most charitable take is that the DOJ is fighting for DS on 147 different fronts at the deep state on 147 different fronts at the same time.

[1087] with a reduced staff of people they don't fully trust.

[1088] As a result, they cut corners and it came back to bite them.

[1089] That could be a very legitimate outworking of this.

[1090] Yeah, you still have the Caligula cult.

[1091] So these are the boxes I'm checking.

[1092] So do you have this Caligula factor, this Caligula factor, these real kind of scummy, seedy, immoral people?

[1093] Yep, yep, they're all there.

[1094] Do you have a coup?

[1095] Yep.

[1096] You're accounting for that.

[1097] Is Pam Bondi incompetent?

[1098] No. So I don't even go there.

[1099] I don't think she's incompetent or I certainly don't see Dan Bongino or anyone who's incompetent or compromised.

[1100] I don't see him as compromised.

[1101] So either it's a kind of psyop on the deep state or I like what you said.

[1102] They're not incompetent, but.

[1103] I think Tim Poole was talking about this the other night.

[1104] But just because you just assumed a position of authority doesn't mean you have it.

[1105] You ceremonially have the authority, but you don't necessarily have it practically yet.

[1106] There are all kinds of ways a bureaucracy can thwart you.

[1107] And that may have been the case as of the other day, that they cut some corners because they don't have a...

[1108] They don't have a robust doge -like staff that can get things done.

[1109] So maybe Elon could come in and help him out staffing.

[1110] That would be interesting because he's obviously a genius when it comes to staffing.

[1111] Rock dog.

[1112] Dr. Steve, the Arizona legislature passed a new budget with no taxes on tips over time and Social Security on seniors.

[1113] Along party lines, of course.

[1114] The Hobgoblin said she will veto, of course.

[1115] If at the federal level it passes into sign, Arizona law amends state tax laws to match federal.

[1116] Okay, do you think this is 4D chess to use in 26 against the fake governor?

[1117] Possibly, yeah.

[1118] So if Arizona's voter registrations continue to grow the way they're growing, which are...

[1119] astronomically deeply red.

[1120] It's wonderful to see.

[1121] I don't see how Katie Hobbs has a chance, given how barely she was able to win that election and win in 2022.

[1122] I don't know how she surpasses the massive, especially the massive voter registration gap between Republicans and Democrats in Arizona.

[1123] This just keeps growing, by the way.

[1124] As we're seeing in Nevada, Nevada is officially a red state now.

[1125] Pennsylvania is about to be.

[1126] It should be in the next few months.

[1127] So no, I think she's toast.

[1128] And so whether it's 4D for that, maybe.

[1129] Yeah, that sounds good.

[1130] Hopefully you guys get somebody top -notch to run against her in Arizona politics.

[1131] Kenneth Bryant, voice talent, Dr. Turley.

[1132] Doesn't the shady recalcitrance to release all files on Epstein foreshadow?

[1133] What to expect on the release of JFK MLK files?

[1134] Will we ever get to know?

[1135] I do.

[1136] I do.

[1137] Unfortunately, I do think it's foreshadowing it.

[1138] Now, the question is whether they're using that to their advantage to fire them, whether they're using this as a proxy.

[1139] And that was always a proxy from the very beginning to identify the agents and the forces within the deep state.

[1140] aligned against them.

[1141] In other words, could it be that Trump, neither Trump or Pam or Cash ever actually intended to release these things because either because they've been so thoroughly compromised or whatever, whatever, whatever the case is, or they've been so thoroughly destroyed, whatever.

[1142] Could it be that they just used the promise of it to institute all kinds of nefarious doings that get caught in order to prevent their release, and then you fire those nefarious actors.

[1143] I just have a feeling more and more this is an op to clean house.

[1144] within the FBI and the CIA.

[1145] I know through all the three -letter intelligence agencies.

[1146] That's the sense I get.

[1147] That's the sense I'm getting more and more.

[1148] So we'll see.

[1149] I just, be careful, keep, I think we need to keep our eye on the big prize.

[1150] The big prize isn't the Epstein files or the JFK reports.

[1151] That's not the big prize.

[1152] The big prize is the complete and total elimination of the administrative.

[1153] and deep state.

[1154] That's the big prize.

[1155] And if this is helping, if this kind of clunkiness is helping to bring that demise about, then we're winning.

[1156] If the clunkiness is preventing it, then we're having an issue here.

[1157] But I would be very careful.

[1158] I would just caution all of us on the actual release of the information being the key indicator for determining what is actually happening behind the scenes.

[1159] We're going to have to get deeper and deeper into the weeds as the days play out in terms of what's really happening.

[1160] We'll find out.

[1161] I mean, the information's all out there.

[1162] Or it comes out there.

[1163] There's no way of hiding it anymore.

[1164] Davros, Dr. Turley, you always rock your awesome shows from your beautiful library.

[1165] Thank you.

[1166] Have you ever considered launching the Dr. Turley Book Club?

[1167] If you pick the book and all your freedom -loving members read the book and then watch your show about the book, we'd all learn a lot more and have great fun.

[1168] Yes, Davros, we have talked about that.

[1169] And yes, keep abreast of that.

[1170] It looks like that might be a new feature.

[1171] in our Courageous Conservatives Club.

[1172] So definitely we'll have a book club of some kind, I think, in the near future.

[1173] Vlad, this pile of filth wasn't created overnight, won't be fixed overnight either.

[1174] The administration has to clean house, find train replacements.

[1175] and fulfill the normal functions of departments.

[1176] That can't be easy.

[1177] Project 2025, anybody?

[1178] Because that's basically their idea.

[1179] What we're performing right now is a root canal when all is said and done.

[1180] I've had one.

[1181] Who's had a root canal before?

[1182] They take a long time, right?

[1183] Mine was a couple of hours, if I recall.

[1184] Root canals take a long time, and they require very specialized expertise.

[1185] And then at the end, You know, they cap the tooth and make it lovely and blah, blah, blah.

[1186] And it's beautiful and it functions and it works.

[1187] But that's exactly what I think we're doing right now is this is a root canal.

[1188] And root canals just aren't pretty.

[1189] They're not nice.

[1190] They're not easy.

[1191] And it's just going to take some time.

[1192] And there's going to be frustrations along the way.

[1193] I just think for a lot of us, to be honest, you know, say we've got 40 days, we're 40 days in to this administration as of yesterday, say.

[1194] I think for a lot of us, we just felt we were like.

[1195] Up until that point, we were like 39 -0.

[1196] Just every day, we're winning, winning, winning.

[1197] That's what we're all saying.

[1198] Not tired of winning.

[1199] We're winning.

[1200] We're just high -fiving each other all the time.

[1201] Winning, winning, winning.

[1202] And then, boom, out of nowhere, Pam Bondi seems to step in it.

[1203] And we lose this one.

[1204] Now, it's interesting.

[1205] We didn't lose this one to any Democrat.

[1206] There's no Democrat that got any.

[1207] leverage over us or something it seemed like for the first time we really lost to the deep state the the caligula coup forces won and and i think yeah i think i think we're a little bit tripped up by that we're like wait wait a minute we we lost this one this isn't this this this didn't you know we're so used to winning i'm gonna release all the epstein files Here they are.

[1208] Whoa, look at this.

[1209] That's what we're used to.

[1210] We win.

[1211] Whoa, we're winning here, winning there.

[1212] I mean, winning in the sense of just revealing how seedy and horrific they are.

[1213] But no, I just think we're just not, we're not used to losing anymore.

[1214] And I think we felt like we lost a little bit.

[1215] That was our first big kind of defeat or pushback.

[1216] So anyway, I'm with you.

[1217] I just think the pile of filth wasn't created overnight.

[1218] It's not going to be fixed overnight.

[1219] It's going to take time to clean house.

[1220] This is a root canal.

[1221] And we're just, yeah, yesterday was a bad day.

[1222] All right, let's see what happens today.

[1223] And again, they don't take the weekends off and Saturday and Sunday and Monday.

[1224] I mean, amazing stuff is happening.

[1225] Executive orders are continuing to be signed.

[1226] Win, win, win.

[1227] But Pam Bondi has got to rise to the occasion and show us what she's doing.

[1228] Cash and Dan got a rise to this occasion.

[1229] This is their first real battle in the dismantling of the deep state.

[1230] Let's see how they come out on it.

[1231] I'm putting my money on them.

[1232] I'm putting it all on them.

[1233] I would put a dime on the deep state.

[1234] Stephen, Bondi has to do better.

[1235] Don't promise what you don't know you can't deliver.

[1236] I want to give her the benefit of the doubt.

[1237] But after Sessions, right, I want Gates.

[1238] Yeah, but even Gates, I don't know.

[1239] Gates seemed to kind of waffle a little bit there.

[1240] But I'm with you.

[1241] After Sessions, who was such an unmitigated disaster, yeah, I'm with you.

[1242] I don't think we trust the Justice Department.

[1243] And don't forget Bill Barr was no champion either.

[1244] So, no, I'm with you.

[1245] We just had one bad.

[1246] Attorney General after another, after another, after another, and of course, four years of that train wreck Merrick Garland.

[1247] So she's got to do better.

[1248] She has a very high bar to live up to with this cabinet.

[1249] And she failed yesterday.

[1250] So my question is, was it a legit fail?

[1251] Is this part of the psyop?

[1252] And then at the end, we all go, ooh, whoa, that was good.

[1253] That was impressive how they pulled that off.

[1254] So that's what we're going to have to see.

[1255] Kevin, what about the rumors that the FBI and CIA are paying overtime to shred documents, drop hard drives, routers, phones into tree shredders?

[1256] I'm sure that President Trump's team is aware of this.

[1257] Do you think that we already have the info and are continuing to let the players in these organizations hang them?

[1258] So, Kevin, that's kind of my thesis at the end based on what I'm reading from others.

[1259] is that this is a PSYOP.

[1260] They're letting them identify themselves.

[1261] Maybe they already have the material.

[1262] Maybe the material's already been destroyed, but not necessarily everybody knows that or whatever it is.

[1263] But this does appear.

[1264] So Michael Schellenberger, the independent reporter, has confirmed that he's numerous sources, whistleblowers from within the FBI, saying they are destroying evidence.

[1265] on Epstein and on JFK.

[1266] And now that means they can identify them.

[1267] So it seems to me that the people who are doing it are being identified as we speak.

[1268] I think this operation may indeed be a full -blown operation to draw out all of what I'm calling the Caligula coup, all of these.

[1269] These people engage in mutiny, agents engage in mutiny against the Trump administration, identify them and then ax them in one swing like Tulsi did with the hundred plus agents that were found engaging in lewd X -rated behavior on the chats in 15 agencies.

[1270] So we've already seen Tulsi do it, but she needed an excuse.

[1271] She couldn't just fire the hundred agents.

[1272] She had to have an excuse to fire them.

[1273] And this may be the excuse to fire these FBI agents, particularly the ones in the Southern District of New York.

[1274] But we'll have to see.

[1275] Again, it's going to have to play out.

[1276] But I'm with you, Kevin.

[1277] That's where I tend to be.

[1278] That makes sense.

[1279] To me, that checks the most amount of boxes.

[1280] It checks the nefarious players in New York within the FBI.

[1281] It checks the box that Pam Bondi is not incompetent and she's not compromised.

[1282] She knows what she's doing.

[1283] Same with Cash and Dan.

[1284] But it also checks why yesterday's rollout was so odd and strange and weird.

[1285] That didn't make sense.

[1286] Well, it's because it's a psyop.

[1287] It's not there to produce an Epstein file.

[1288] It was there to produce the traitors among us and bring them to the surface.

[1289] Mystic Tom, do you think Pam B's Epstein fiasco was done purposely to expose the individuals to investigate, fire, and arrest?

[1290] You summed it up.

[1291] Where were you when I was prepping for today's show?

[1292] Where were you, Mystic Tom?

[1293] I believe my thesis is, no, because you said it so perfectly, so succinctly.

[1294] Pam Bondi's Epstein fiasco was done purposely to expose the individuals to investigate.

[1295] fire and arrest.

[1296] We'll see about the arrest part.

[1297] That's the indictment side of things.

[1298] But you said it beautifully.

[1299] William O'Toole calls you Peter O'Toole.

[1300] William O'Toole, Dr. Steve, do you see a connection between Diddy and Epstein, or do you think they're separate events?

[1301] And if they're deep state puppets, why do you think the swamp allowed them to be caught?

[1302] Thank you, Will.

[1303] Yeah, yeah.

[1304] I haven't put those pieces together.

[1305] I don't know the connection between Epstein and Diddy.

[1306] Again, it seems to be the same thing.

[1307] It's the same general gist that high -profile people, people of power and affluence, were being blackmailed to control them, as it were, to get them to do the will of the deep state.

[1308] In terms of Epstein, well, as I understand it, actually, it was the Justice Department.

[1309] It was the attorney general in Florida that originally discovered what was happening here and how this was all getting covered up by a liberal DA, if I recall.

[1310] And was it in West Palm Beach or wherever it was?

[1311] And then brought it to the attention of the attorney general under Bush.

[1312] And it was that attorney general that actually went ahead and prosecuted.

[1313] uh epstein uh originally and then in terms of who in terms of 2018 2019 raid yeah i don't know i don't know how it all plays out other than that there is there is a uh there's a bit of a disconnect between the players within the deep state i think the deep state got very very very strong domestically after j6 I think before J6, it was there, but it wasn't.

[1314] Deep state was primary.

[1315] As I understand it, again, this is the sense I'm making of it.

[1316] Mike Benn seems to have made this argument very well.

[1317] The deep state was primarily directed toward geopolitics.

[1318] It was CIA driven through the State Department.

[1319] You know, federal law enforcement, that was still relatively tame.

[1320] It ended up.

[1321] it ended up getting merged with the cia deep state after j6 or right before if you know if we we take seriously that it was largely um choreographed um and initiated by them but uh but it was certainly after november 2016 that's when we begin to see deep state actors within the fbi manipulating together with um big tech, the electorate, in order to guarantee election outcomes.

[1322] It happened in 2020.

[1323] And then they did everything they could to try to bury Trump post -January 6th, politically bury him.

[1324] And then they've been relentless ever since.

[1325] So that seems to me the timeline.

[1326] The arrest for Epstein in 2019, that finally put him behind bars in New York and that got him Epsteined.

[1327] That seems to have come at a time when the domestic deep state was still forming and it was still more interested in manipulating elections like the international geopolitical deep state has been.

[1328] But it wasn't at the level of starting to...

[1329] jail citizens en masse or consider parents at a school board meaning to be terrorists.

[1330] It took the Biden era for that to happen.

[1331] So that's how I'm playing it out.

[1332] But it's a great question.

[1333] Those are some of those pieces we're going to have to connect at some point.

[1334] Like for Brian, I thought it odd that Epstein came up trending four days ago and the administration responded immediately with this consistent with an op. One way or the other, uh, the Rick roll was, uh, was, uh, the GOP's face palm.

[1335] Yeah.

[1336] Yeah.

[1337] Who, who did that?

[1338] Um, was that, uh, what's his name?

[1339] Um, was that the, uh, why am I forgetting?

[1340] Um, Ohio Congressman, um, Jim Jordan.

[1341] Is that Jim Jordan?

[1342] Who did the Rick roll?

[1343] That was just so.

[1344] Yeah.

[1345] You know, I've seen that.

[1346] I saw that in real time.

[1347] I was, I was on the, uh, the American freedom tour and we were in Arizona, Phoenix.

[1348] And, uh, it had, it had, uh, you know, all it had Dan Bongino was there and how all the big, the big star lineup.

[1349] So Dan Bongino and, and Dinesh D'Souza and Don Trump Jr. was there.

[1350] And, uh, who are judge Janine.

[1351] I think it was a great, it was a great lineup.

[1352] It was terrific.

[1353] But then somebody thought it would be fun to invite a Trump impersonator on the stage.

[1354] And I mean, these are like three, 4 ,000 people in there.

[1355] Somebody thought it would be fun to do it and then introduce him as Trump.

[1356] And the people went wild until they realized this was a joke.

[1357] And then they started to boo and they got pissed.

[1358] And I, I frankly, it's exactly what I thought of with the Rick roll yesterday.

[1359] That's exactly what I thought of.

[1360] I was like, you guys, you guys turn something.

[1361] The MAGA faithful were very adamant and excited about into a joke.

[1362] Yeah.

[1363] Face palm is a great, a GOP face palm is a great example.

[1364] That's what I mean.

[1365] I just, it just seems to me yesterday.

[1366] It just didn't quite make sense.

[1367] So either this was just a big L and we just have to take it.

[1368] So we're 39 and one.

[1369] Okay.

[1370] Big L and Pam get, you know, step up to the plate.

[1371] You screwed that one up.

[1372] Let's go.

[1373] And then let's turn the lemons and lemonade by, by firing all their asses.

[1374] Or this was a pretty impressive psyop that kind of kept us in the dark may embolden them.

[1375] And then, uh, just.

[1376] serve to reveal who the real nefarious players were so we can axe them either way everyone's either way the good news i think is a lot of people are going to get axed as a result of this franz uh good morning here steve since the naturalist worldview in the civilization's age with uh compatibility issues what changes can we expect in the secular space can we expect fierce opposition um Yeah, so in a post -secular society, most post -secular theorists would argue that religion certainly makes a very significant comeback.

[1377] The narrative of the great divide, that science and religion and state and church and fact and faith.

[1378] operate very different domains that have to remain separated from one another, that great divide ideology just collapses.

[1379] And when it collapses, then inevitably the religion, the church, the faith ends up coming back into the public square, since the one ideology that's used to expel it from the public square no longer has any standing, no longer has any sense of credibility.

[1380] But that doesn't mean secular forces go anywhere either.

[1381] You know, that's another thing.

[1382] So that's what makes a post -secular society different than a pre -secular society is post -secular societies, you're going to still have secular dynamics in there.

[1383] They just don't have anywhere near the power.

[1384] So it's a good question to see how it all plays out.

[1385] For example, in Russia today, Vladimir Putin still asserts that the government is the Russian government.

[1386] of the Russian Federation, is fully secular.

[1387] He fully asserts that.

[1388] Even although the Russian Orthodox Church exercises enormous power, and even although the state pays billions upon billions of rubles to build Orthodox cathedrals.

[1389] But that is his form of, that is his conception of secularity.

[1390] To this day, I believe Erdogan still refers to Turkey as a secular society, even although...

[1391] The government is doing everything it can to awaken more Ottoman -like sentiments.

[1392] So secularity just basically has to readjust itself.

[1393] We're still seeing a very strong secularity in our schools where the powers that be and the rhetoric and the legal precedent behind it.

[1394] still exemplify significant strength.

[1395] So there's no creation classes, for example, or intelligent design classes as part of biology and as part of the science curriculum in our public schools as of yet, I understand.

[1396] They have made it into Turkey, by the way.

[1397] Turkey is teaching intelligent design.

[1398] As a matter of fact, I think they made that a law back in 20...

[1399] 17, 20, 18, they were no longer to be teaching evolution, strict evolution.

[1400] This could be intelligent design.

[1401] There were some who believed there's not a divide between those two.

[1402] I forget the theorists who argued that all evolution presupposes design.

[1403] Okay, that's interesting.

[1404] Presupposes intelligent design.

[1405] Okay, and agency and so forth.

[1406] Okay, that's interesting.

[1407] So they're not at odds.

[1408] That's what I mean.

[1409] You're going to see this play out in ways where...

[1410] because the law has achieved a certain amount of precedent since, say, the 1940s.

[1411] So I think it was 1947.

[1412] It was only the second time the phrase from Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist, separation between church and state, was used.

[1413] And then ever since then, it's been used like a thousand times to expel the church and expel religious influence in...

[1414] the public square.

[1415] Because you have that precedent, it's going to take some time to unravel.

[1416] So that's kind of some of the staying power of secular influence in our society, certainly in the law.

[1417] But again, one of the fields of study, post -secular studies, is post -secular law, how that's getting unraveled.

[1418] I mean, there are Sharia courts in the UK right now, legally recognized Sharia courts.

[1419] So I think you'll probably see something, not necessarily Sharia courts, but more and more legally recognized ecclesiastical like courts for civil cases.

[1420] But it's just going to take time to unravel in the legal sphere and so forth.

[1421] But in the political sphere, the actual political sphere, I think it's already happening.

[1422] I mean, people are already scared to death of Christian nationalism taking over.

[1423] But again, it's not going to be overtly.

[1424] charismatic or Pentecostal and everywhere you go.

[1425] But you saw even with Trump's cabinet meeting the other day, beginning in prayer in Jesus' name.

[1426] That's clearly indicative of a more post -secular politics.

[1427] Benton, question, Dr. Steve, the way you describe Caligula could be better described as the Antichrist.

[1428] Ooh, the way you describe the participants of Lolita Island could be described as satanic.

[1429] So they do not value humanity.

[1430] Very true.

[1431] Very true.

[1432] You girls.

[1433] You discuss M. Scott Peck's People of the Lie.

[1434] Peck described institutionalized good to church and institutionalized evil.

[1435] Prisons.

[1436] Interesting.

[1437] Yeah, I think the deep state is also institutionalized evil.

[1438] Would you agree or disagree?

[1439] Yeah, Benton, I think you're right on.

[1440] Dang, Benton, that's phenomenal.

[1441] So Benton's alluding to a video I did yesterday on...

[1442] on President Trump and the rise of sort of like the political demonology and that spiritual warfare and political demonology that's happening inside Washington, D .C. as we speak.

[1443] And Benton is just making a very, very, I think, very good extending that argument into institutionalized evil.

[1444] And I think you're right.

[1445] Absolutely.

[1446] I think the deep state is institutionalized evil precisely because it exists.

[1447] like I said earlier, is sort of an immune system to protect permanent Washington from the values, interests, and concerns of the people.

[1448] And therefore, it is inherently autocratic, bureaucratic, and fundamentally anti -constitutional and anti -democratic.

[1449] Constitution doesn't even provide for something like the deep state.

[1450] So it necessarily undermines the foundations of our republic and to the extent that our republic is committed.

[1451] to the public good to the public true to the public beautiful um it is uh it is a it is a anti -good force by definition brilliantly put that that's brilliant Jerks Enterprise.

[1452] Actually, Steve, I believe you are exactly right to say it another way.

[1453] This is Pam and Cash's Reichstag fire moment.

[1454] Go in and clean the deep state out of the FBI and the DOJ at large.

[1455] Well, again, where are you guys when I'm prepping for my stuff, man?

[1456] I love you guys.

[1457] You're awesome.

[1458] You say it, Jerks Enterprise.

[1459] You're saying it perfectly.

[1460] Absolutely perfectly.

[1461] John, a question to Dr. Steve.

[1462] My numbers may not be exactly right, but my understanding is that at the last census errors, overcounted population in Illinois, New York, California, and it gypped.

[1463] So yeah, I think you got it.

[1464] The three blue states and it gypped Florida, Texas, and Alabama.

[1465] That's right.

[1466] Three red states.

[1467] They gypped them out of six districts and electoral votes.

[1468] Can this be correct before the next census?

[1469] So that's it.

[1470] I'm kind of going over that because I think you're right.

[1471] I think it cost us.

[1472] It cost us, I think, about five or six seats.

[1473] I remember they're saying a handful of seats that we would have had just been deep.

[1474] And it's going to happen.

[1475] It's going to happen.

[1476] It's just, again, how much damage do they get to do ahead of time?

[1477] And right now, by the way, it does not look like they're going to win the House.

[1478] They're not going to get the Senate.

[1479] That almost seems impossible in the midterms.

[1480] But even if nothing was done, it doesn't look like they're going to get the House.

[1481] Right now, Republicans have the advantage.

[1482] Now, there's about 18 seats to the Cook Political Report as toss -ups.

[1483] So it could shift.

[1484] But yeah, all of that to say, I don't know if it can get rectified before 2026.

[1485] I would hope it can.

[1486] But even if it didn't, I think we're okay right now.

[1487] We're actually okay.

[1488] And then it will get rectified before 2028, I believe.

[1489] Again, difficulty with the census is done every 10 years.

[1490] When you botch it, it takes a while.

[1491] There just seems to be all these loopholes of having you have to go through to correct it.

[1492] And I don't know why that is, to be honest.

[1493] But it should be corrected.

[1494] especially after the mass deportations, especially after the mass deportations, because, you know, illegals were at illegals were included.

[1495] You were not allowed to ask a person's legal status.

[1496] The Supreme Court knocked that down for some dumb reason that Trump wanted that in the 2020 census.

[1497] And they knocked that down.

[1498] Again, I have no clue why.

[1499] So regardless, I do think.

[1500] the next census is going to be a bloodbath for the Democrats either way.

[1501] Davros, Dr. Steve, the Dominion is trying to encourage a boycott today, telling everyone to avoid shopping.

[1502] Oh, yes, shopping at Amazon or other big retailers.

[1503] Will you be buying something today in order to stick it to the Dominion?

[1504] I'm not sure what the Dominion, I thought there was just like a Democrat thing, but maybe you're using code.

[1505] I'm just not up to speak because I'm slow.

[1506] Yeah, I was thinking of doing that.

[1507] It's funny because I just bought a book on Amazon yesterday.

[1508] So maybe it's kind of like technically my thing, but maybe I will.

[1509] There's always, I have a reading list.

[1510] I always have reading lists.

[1511] So I'm always looking to buy another book.

[1512] And so, yeah, maybe I'll buy something today and just show that the new patriot economy is the future, not this pathetic liberal Democrat economy.

[1513] Benton, Dr. Steve, I do not care if these evil men and women are rich and powerful.

[1514] They broke the law and should be held accountable for their actions.

[1515] Amen.

[1516] No, I'm with you.

[1517] This proves there is a two -tier legal system.

[1518] There is.

[1519] It is Caligula.

[1520] What is it?

[1521] Caligula II.

[1522] A two -tier legal system is immoral.

[1523] The fabric of a moral legal society is shredded to tatters.

[1524] In history, are there parallels?

[1525] Yeah, yeah, well, certainly communism.

[1526] was a two -tier system.

[1527] Fascism, any kind of totalitarianism is always going to be exemplified by a two -tier system.

[1528] Apartheid is a two -tier system.

[1529] So, yeah, of course, of course.

[1530] No, no question about it.

[1531] I mean, the Caligulas believe they're above the law.

[1532] They've been acting like they've been above the law and they have been above the law the way Merrick Garland has or even Bill Barr have been applying it.

[1533] That's part of the guarantee of the deep state.

[1534] You become a part or just permanent Washington in general.

[1535] You become a part of permanent Washington in order to be, in order to have a security, an economic security, but also a legal security.

[1536] You gain in riches, but you also gain in a kind of social status where the law doesn't touch you.

[1537] Now, they'll tell you, you know, if you engage in kind of like these shenanigans, kind of, you know, keep it hidden.

[1538] Or they blackmail you with it or something like that.

[1539] But in the end, it's almost like it's a John Wick kind of world where they just kind of live in their own, in accordance with their own code.

[1540] And then they engage in all this virtual politics, this kabuki theater that makes us think we're actually a part of this, the way that we actually have a say in how our nation is governed when a point of fact.

[1541] They're the ones who do it.

[1542] They're the mafia that runs things.

[1543] So, yeah.

[1544] So, no, I'm with you.

[1545] I want to see this destroyed.

[1546] Absolutely.

[1547] But, again, you destroy it by exorcising, literally, these demons out of there.

[1548] By fumigating the swamp.

[1549] And it starts, at least, at the very least, with firing them and expelling them.

[1550] from there.

[1551] And then from there, I do think Pam Bondi is going to have to hand down some hardcore indictments and make some examples of some people, no question.

[1552] MDE, thoughts on the church?

[1553] Seems charismatic circles are being shook by God over abuses.

[1554] What are the Goliaths the church needs to overcome in this era?

[1555] Yeah.

[1556] So the American church, if you're talking about the American church, the American church has had a rough go over the last 70 years or so, give or take.

[1557] And the rough go is that secularism is a social strategy to expel alternative parallel powers from the public square so as to enable the modern state, to have a totalizing monopoly over the public square.

[1558] So to me, secularism's got nothing to do with science and religion actually occupying different domains.

[1559] I think that's...

[1560] Again, I think that's sort of nonsense.

[1561] Or fact and faith being fundamentally different, because you have to have faith in that.

[1562] You have to believe that.

[1563] Facts have to be believed in, as it were.

[1564] No, to me, that's just a radically simplistic understanding of society, what they call the great divide, fact versus faith, church versus state, all this sort of stuff.

[1565] religion versus science.

[1566] What that great divide is, is the conceptual and rhetorical strategy to expel the church from the public square so that the state can assume a territorial monopolist over the public square.

[1567] And so the modern state now alone is the public.

[1568] Anything you're dealing with in terms of public life ultimately will go back to the state.

[1569] The state is the ultimate.

[1570] institution of authority in all matters of life, even in matters of conflict with itself, right?

[1571] That's Hans Hermann Hoppe, the great libertarian philosopher, loves to define the state, the modern state that way.

[1572] And it became that way through secularization.

[1573] So secularization is a social strategy that expands the modern state's power and scope.

[1574] As the church learned to live in this new privatized domain that it got consigned to in the modern secular world, it radically changed.

[1575] So this is going to be a key difference, I would say, between the modern American sort of evangelical charismatic church and...

[1576] say, like the Russian Orthodox Church or even mosques, say, in Iran, Shiite tradition.

[1577] Because even although they were certainly, or certainly Russian Orthodoxy was persecuted, they were never privatized like we were.

[1578] And the problem is when you're privatized, that domain operates fundamentally different than the public.

[1579] Private domain and public domain.

[1580] So anthropologists, cultural anthropologists have been talking about this for years.

[1581] Sociologists recognize this.

[1582] Public life deals with the objective, whereas private life deals with the subject.

[1583] Public life deals with the obligatory.

[1584] Private life deals with the optional.

[1585] Public life deals with that which applies to all.

[1586] Private life deals with that which applies to only some.

[1587] And so when you take the church and you consign it to a realm that is subjective, optional, and applies to only some, all of a sudden you see the church lose its moral and truth identity.

[1588] The reason why the church has such an almost impossible task of witnessing to truth today is because truth is public, it is not private.

[1589] Truth is objective, it is not subject.

[1590] Truth is obligatory, it's not optional.

[1591] Truth applies to all, it doesn't apply to only some.

[1592] So when the church has been pushed into the periphery of importance, into the private sphere of life, consigned away from the castles in the medieval world, now into the modern world, next to pizzerias and dry cleaners.

[1593] It can no more proclaim truth or an authoritative moral vision of life than a pizzeria can or a dry cleaner can.

[1594] Now, people might obey it.

[1595] People might buy it like they buy yoga and a yoga way of life.

[1596] Nevertheless, a yoga way of life cannot be imposed in the public squares as obligatory for all.

[1597] And the church lost that.

[1598] It lost that capacity to be able to speak objectively, the American church.

[1599] And so now it's not specific to this.

[1600] It's no wonder that you have all kinds of scandals.

[1601] It's no wonder that you have all kinds of.

[1602] crazy things happening within the American church because it's in the private sphere.

[1603] It's in the sphere of consumerism and crazy things tend to, again, because you just don't have a very strong moral foundation there because it's not moral.

[1604] Morality is public.

[1605] It's not private.

[1606] That's why, again, so many of our churches have gone woke because wokeness was the ethics of the public square.

[1607] And so all they did is they became, they just amplified.

[1608] Those public ethics.

[1609] Rather than go against it, they went for it.

[1610] Why go against it?

[1611] It's not like, again, you have any obligatory social dynamics behind you for it.

[1612] So anyway, so that's the American church.

[1613] That's the state.

[1614] And what is it going to have to do?

[1615] It's going to have to step up and become public again.

[1616] Like in the New England commonwealths or even during the time of the founding fathers, it's going to have to stand up and be able to proclaim virtue.

[1617] That's the founding fathers.

[1618] There were three things necessary for liberty.

[1619] You had to be free, you had to be virtuous, and you had to be faithful.

[1620] You had to have freedom, you had to have virtue, and you had to have faith.

[1621] That's what's known as the triangle of liberty, triangle of freedom.

[1622] In order to be truly free, we had to be self -governing.

[1623] That meant you needed virtue.

[1624] But in order to have virtue, you had to have faith.

[1625] They did not believe that virtue was self -constructed.

[1626] Virtue came from one of the major faith traditions.

[1627] Overwhelmingly for them, it was Christianity, but they didn't care if it was Islam, if it was Hinduism, right?

[1628] So Kash Patel took his oath, putting his hand on the Bhagavad Gita, the Song of God, one of the sacred texts of Hinduism.

[1629] The founding fathers, I do believe, would have no problem with that because that's part of a faith, a classical, traditional faith tradition.

[1630] But if you're going to have true faith, you have to be free.

[1631] Faith can't be coerced.

[1632] You can't use the position you have in the public square to coerce people to that faith.

[1633] So you had to be free, but in order to be free, you had to have virtue.

[1634] But in order to have that virtue, you had to have faith, which needed freedom, which needed virtue, which needed faith.

[1635] So that's the interlocking triangle of liberty that all of our founding fathers held to.

[1636] And the church is going to have to assume that position.

[1637] And the church is going to have to be.

[1638] the point of virtue formation in our society today.

[1639] Mike, our producer is saying that Trump and Vance are currently destroying Zelensky in the Oval Office right now.

[1640] Oh my gosh.

[1641] If you want to react to the clip, do you want, do you have the clip ready, Micah?

[1642] You want to show it?

[1643] If you have problems.

[1644] bringing people into your military?

[1645] And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?

[1646] A lot of questions.

[1647] Let's start from the beginning.

[1648] First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.

[1649] Even you.

[1650] But you have nice ocean.

[1651] And don't feel now.

[1652] But you will feel it in the future.

[1653] God bless.

[1654] You don't know that.

[1655] God bless.

[1656] God bless.

[1657] You will not have the war.

[1658] Don't tell us what we're going to feel.

[1659] We're trying to solve a problem.

[1660] Don't tell us what we're going to feel.

[1661] I'm not telling you.

[1662] Because you're in no position to dictate that.

[1663] Remember this.

[1664] You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.

[1665] We're going to feel very good.

[1666] We're going to feel very good and very strong.

[1667] You're right now not in a very good position.

[1668] You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position.

[1669] And he happens to be right about it.

[1670] You're not in a good position.

[1671] You don't have the cards right now.

[1672] With us, you start having cards.

[1673] Right now, you're playing cards.

[1674] You're gambling with the lives of millions of people.

[1675] You're gambling with World War III.

[1676] You're gambling with World War III.

[1677] And what you're doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country.

[1678] It's back to you.

[1679] Far more than a lot of people said they should have.

[1680] Have you said thank you once?

[1681] A lot of times.

[1682] Even today.

[1683] Even today.

[1684] You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October.

[1685] Offer some words of appreciation for the United States of America and the president who's trying to save your country.

[1686] Wow.

[1687] I'm gobsmacked.

[1688] You wanted me to comment to that?

[1689] I am gobsmacked.

[1690] All right.

[1691] Well, so what that tells me right there.

[1692] is that John Mearsheimer is one.

[1693] The geopolitical theorist from the University of Chicago who recorded a speech back in 2015 predicting that war was going to break out in Ukraine.

[1694] precisely because of what happened with the Maidan Revolution 2014, orchestrated by Victoria Nuland and the State Department, U .S. State Department, and the incessant eastward encroachment of NATO was inevitably going to awaken great power block pushback from Russia.

[1695] Because that's how power blocks work.

[1696] They form in order to never, ever have a peer competitor within their region.

[1697] NATO was moving more and more into Russia's peer competitor power block space.

[1698] And if the moment they stepped too far over that line, just like Khrushchev was stepping over the line towards Cuba, Russia would react.

[1699] And unfortunately, that's exactly what happened.

[1700] And it sounds to me...

[1701] that Trump and Vance are 100 % behind that thesis.

[1702] We were told for three years, we have been told, it's not just me, it's Alex and Alexander of the Duran and a number of others, we have been told that we were Putin puppets for pushing that thesis of why this war started.

[1703] We were told we were just echoing pro -Putin talking points, pro -Russia talking points.

[1704] I've been told, I've read it in the comments.

[1705] Well, I guess, well, Putin must have some incriminating information on Trump.

[1706] I can already see it now.

[1707] I mean, it was so obvious this war should never have broken out.

[1708] This is the direct result of the neocons.

[1709] these fundamentalist neocons taking over the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon, and pushing war with Russia.

[1710] And they believe, I mean, George Soros wrote about this back in the early 90s.

[1711] If we use NATO technology, but Ukrainian troops, or he called, I think he said, Eastern European troops, because Eastern Europeans can stomach casualties in a way that Westerners couldn't.

[1712] If we combine NATO tech with Eastern European troops, we can take down Russia.

[1713] Yes.

[1714] Yeah.

[1715] Our producer, Mike, is advance actually got involved in the discussion as compared to Pence.

[1716] We just sat there passively and pensively.

[1717] So I yeah, I think I think I think what happened.

[1718] As I think that this constant encroachment on Russia.

[1719] And on the Russian great power sphere that globalists did never acknowledge because they saw the world as their power sphere.

[1720] It sparked this war.

[1721] Russia was preparing for it for 10 years.

[1722] Putin had been warning since the 2007 of our Munich Security Council.

[1723] Echoing Yeltsin, echoing Gorbachev, stop encroaching to the east.

[1724] Stop.

[1725] moving nato closer and closer to our border because we do not want enemies at our border any more than you want us in cuba or or or on the border of mexico or you know right you wouldn't you wouldn't want russian nuclear weapons on the border of neck mexico would you so um nobody heeded nobody heeded they laughed at that you know and here we are And so what you just saw there with Trump is basically telling Zelensky that his days of playing the victim and playing the virtuous leader when he's refused to hold any elections, when he's basically destroyed a denomination, made it illegal, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

[1726] It's too pro -Russian and blah, blah, blah.

[1727] I mean, it's just, I cannot even believe we just saw that.

[1728] It's just beautiful.

[1729] Super sticker from Janine.

[1730] Thank you, Janine.

[1731] Very sweet of you.

[1732] Thank you.

[1733] Axel, FBI head needs to fire every agent in the New York office.

[1734] I'm being censored.

[1735] Can't use my name.

[1736] Okay, yeah, absolutely, Axel.

[1737] We're with you.

[1738] Looks like it's happening.

[1739] Looks like, I mean, obviously what you just saw there, it looks like Zelensky is about to be fired.

[1740] Let's put it that way.

[1741] John Clement, Dr. Steve, I know any assassination attempt will have conspiracy theories galore, but the Butler attempt just gets weirder and weirder.

[1742] We know nothing about crooks.

[1743] The FBI and Secret Service continue to act as though they're hiding things and many rumors about crooks being helped.

[1744] Will we ever find out the real truth of what really happens?

[1745] Good question, John.

[1746] I don't know.

[1747] I hope so.

[1748] Again, this is.

[1749] Obviously, the man in the Oval Office was the intended victim of that assassination.

[1750] I'm sure he would like to know.

[1751] Hopefully, we'll know along with him.

[1752] Rack Dog, Dr. Steve, can we do a fundraiser for you to take over PMSN DNC and have Micah produce shows with Alex Jones, Mark Dice, you, Tucker Carlson.

[1753] et cetera.

[1754] It would be the most popular cable news outlet.

[1755] Yeah, sounds great.

[1756] Well, fundraiser, huh?

[1757] I think all the, you know, Elon will do it.

[1758] Elon will be like, yeah, here, here, here, here's a few billion.

[1759] Come on, give it over.

[1760] It's more than, more than enough.

[1761] It's worth far more than what it is.

[1762] That'd be great.

[1763] Rock dog.

[1764] Mystery of wrong.

[1765] Think.

[1766] Love it.

[1767] Orwellian.

[1768] The goal of the lawsuits isn't to stop Trump, Elon.

[1769] They know the case will fail.

[1770] It's all merely to stall for time for them to delete evidence.

[1771] It may be.

[1772] It may be.

[1773] That's very true.

[1774] They are all trying to slow walk them for some reason.

[1775] I thought it's more just to try to get the Democrats to provide at least some kind of opposition because right now they're getting steamrolled.

[1776] But I think you're right.

[1777] I think in many ways there's a lot of shredding going on.

[1778] Rock Corp and Dr. Turley speak in the multipolar world.

[1779] If you had to draw a map or at least describe one, what would be the limits of each hegemon's geosphere of influence?

[1780] For example, U .S. would control North America or all the Americas?

[1781] Which hegemon would influence South America and Africa?

[1782] Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1783] So this is, it's interesting.

[1784] It seems to me Sam Huntington's thesis got a little fuzzy.

[1785] when it came to South America and Africa.

[1786] It was very clear.

[1787] So China is the Sinosphere, and that would include, well, increasingly, it would include Taiwan, it would include Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Southeast Asia as a whole.

[1788] It's a great question in terms of Australia, because Australia is an economic...

[1789] It economically, it is oriented towards China.

[1790] Security wise, it's oriented towards the United States.

[1791] So that has to play itself out.

[1792] Probably in the end, it would go with the Anglosphere, more with the United States.

[1793] So the United States would be exercising some pretty considerable influence in the region with Australia.

[1794] India, of course, it would involve, you know.

[1795] Sri Lanka, Kashmir, these areas in addition to itself.

[1796] Russia would be Eurasia, the Stans, possibly Eastern Europe and the like.

[1797] Western Europe is a good question.

[1798] Again, he saw Eastern Europe and Western Europe as separate.

[1799] If I recall, Huntington saw Eastern Europe falling more into the influence of Russia, like with the Soviet Union times.

[1800] There could be an Anglo alliance.

[1801] The United States shifting on over to England, to Britain, and Australia, New Zealand.

[1802] What am I leaving out?

[1803] Middle East, that's a little tougher.

[1804] Middle East are sub -civilization states, as it were.

[1805] So Saudi Arabia commands a de facto authority for Sunni.

[1806] Muslims worldwide because of Mecca.

[1807] Iran is the center for Shiite Islam.

[1808] There's Pan -Africanism, so there may be a sub -Sahara African, Sahel region Africanism sort of forming.

[1809] So that'll give you an idea.

[1810] It's basically continental.

[1811] Now, Ernesto Aloujo, the Brazilian scholar, He was once foreign minister under Jair Bolsonaro.

[1812] I mean, his thesis was he wanted to see a Christian civilization alignment between South America, North America, and Russia.

[1813] He was actually arguing for Russia.

[1814] So the three most populous Christian nations are Brazil, United States, and Russia.

[1815] Brazil is primarily Catholic.

[1816] United States is primarily Protestant.

[1817] Russia is Orthodox.

[1818] What if we united?

[1819] Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox spheres together through this Brazil, United States, Russia aligned.

[1820] So there's all kinds of ways it can be, can be drawn out and out.

[1821] So that would be multi -sphere and multi -continental.

[1822] Mike, our producer.

[1823] So a reporter, what if Russia breaks the ceasefire?

[1824] Trump.

[1825] What if a bomb dropped over your head?

[1826] There's no one like it.

[1827] Tammy, Diddy's corrupt, compromised machine was designed to snare people the Epstein operation did not.

[1828] Interesting.

[1829] Yeah.

[1830] Yeah.

[1831] Yeah, I have to.

[1832] I got to be honest.

[1833] I've been caught a little flat footed in trying to work out the connections between Diddy and Epstein.

[1834] Abner, have you figured out where the news came from that Trump is a Putin ad set?

[1835] Well, apparently it was from the Hillary Clinton campaign, right?

[1836] Originally, that's what it came from.

[1837] Hillary Clinton and Kash Patel.

[1838] was responsible for kind of uncovering that mess back in 2018, 2019.

[1839] I actually think he even sued at one point because one of the news organizations was trying to implicate him as well as being a Putin asset.

[1840] Beta Believe, hey, Dr. Steve, what do you think of President Trump not placing his hand on the Bible at the inauguration?

[1841] I think it may have been intentional in his part, by the way.

[1842] And I'm MAGA.

[1843] I don't know.

[1844] So the only thing I heard, and I have not looked at the film to corroborate, the only thing I heard is that Justice Roberts had begun reading without telling him to put your hand on the Bible.

[1845] When Pam Bondi swore in Kash Patel, she did say, I was impressed that she knew it, she said, please put your hand on the Bhagavad Gita.

[1846] And he did.

[1847] And then raise your other hand.

[1848] So there's the instructions.

[1849] And if I recall, and again, this is what I've heard.

[1850] He didn't give those instructions, place your hand on the Bible, or he just said, raise your right hand.

[1851] And just Trump did what he did.

[1852] So that's, but again, the Bible is there.

[1853] I mean, it's, so there's, the idea is, is that you were taking an allegiance to this constitution based on an accountability that is higher than you or anyone else there.

[1854] Your allegiance is not ultimately to the constitution of the people.

[1855] It is to a higher authority to which you are accountable eternally.

[1856] So it's a pretty, that's again, the symbolic nature of it.

[1857] But yeah, I wouldn't put, I wouldn't put a lot of, yeah.

[1858] Beta, thank you, Beta.

[1859] Very, very kind of you.

[1860] Joe, my friend thinks Trump is a fascist.

[1861] How should I respond?

[1862] Name me a fascist who shrunk government.

[1863] What fascists historically shrunk government?

[1864] And he said, well, how's he shrinking government?

[1865] Well, I mean, he's wanting to eliminate a number of departments.

[1866] He wants to balance the budget.

[1867] He wants to cut the workforce.

[1868] Oh, but he's going to replace them with all these MAGA faithful.

[1869] But he hasn't.

[1870] That's the claim, but he hasn't.

[1871] So Elon Musk consistently states we're trying to shrink the government.

[1872] That's number one.

[1873] Number two, there is no fascist regime that once it is elected in, if it does get elected in, keeps elections.

[1874] Elections are gotten rid of.

[1875] Has Trump gotten rid of elections?

[1876] Oh, but he will.

[1877] But has he?

[1878] No. So then he's not a fascist.

[1879] When he gets rid of elections, let me know.

[1880] Then I'll say he's a fascist.

[1881] Until then, he's not.

[1882] And then third.

[1883] And this is a little bit more sophisticated.

[1884] Fascism is fundamentally a modernist movement.

[1885] It's a movement to take over the world.

[1886] Just as communism was a modernist movement to take over the world, just as globalism was a modernist movement to take over the world, Trump is a civilizationalist.

[1887] And as a civilizationalist, he has no intention of taking over the world.

[1888] He has every intention of taking over our own hemisphere.

[1889] Sure.

[1890] But that's great power politics.

[1891] You don't have to.

[1892] That was being done way before fascists ever showed up.

[1893] So there you go.

[1894] There's three arguments against it.

[1895] Mark, Dr. C., will ICE be invited into voting places for the midterms?

[1896] Good question.

[1897] That's brilliant.

[1898] I would love to see it.

[1899] I would love to see it.

[1900] Absolutely.

[1901] I don't know the answer, though.

[1902] All right, gang.

[1903] Great.

[1904] Well, now I got to go and watch this whole brouhaha that happened in the Oval Office with Zelensky.

[1905] Absolutely crazy.

[1906] It does.

[1907] It does look like Zelensky just got fired.

[1908] Zelensky just got doged.

[1909] And thank God for that.

[1910] The guy needs to go and we need to turn a chapter in this really sad period.

[1911] Love you guys.

[1912] Have a wonderful weekend.

[1913] If anything comes up, I will do a quick video.

[1914] God bless you all.

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