La Última Copa: El sueño del pibe

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[4] Hello, I'm Christina Kim, a reporter and producer of ThruLine.

[5] This time we're doing something different with an episode extra in Spanish.

[6] For many, the football is the sound of the life.

[7] the children playing in the goal of the televisors or the grits of the aficionados that are heard from the becindario.

[8] The football is the game and now the same is the gameonat most grand, the Cupa in Qatar.

[9] The semester past we took the history controversial of how Qatar was elected to be the city of the world but the fact is that we don't we are prepared to leave the cancha.

[10] So this This week, we present us a episode very special of our friends in NPR and Futuro Media.

[11] His first episode of the podcast, The Ultimate Copa in Spanish.

[12] It's the story of Leonele Messi, how he got to be one of the best players of the world.

[13] And, also the history of Argentina, and what means to regress a home and a country.

[14] Before to start, a note that in this episode, we can hear tiroteos and language explicit.

[15] Our story starts with a videocassette.

[16] You do you?

[17] You know?

[18] Resulta that in the 2003 he came a videocassette to Hugo Tocali, the trainer of the selection Argentina Sub -17.

[19] In our we're in the room in the room all prepared to see the videos because we'd many videos.

[20] Tocali is to discover and train to future cracks of football, in a place where millions of of kids and chas swenian with being stars of football.

[21] All the time they're sending videos like this, but what see in the screen this this time, it's made a muddo.

[22] I'm going to the video five quagas.

[23] My impression no. It's more I've been like five times.

[24] It's more, even, even of those that's one of the video, he'll was put a velocity normal.

[25] Because the adolescent that was seen in the screen, was too rapid to be real.

[26] He was taken the pelota, and apart of his gambetta cortita, in five meters of zero, passed a year, the explosivity that had.

[27] That gambetta, that manner to elude to his opponent with the play like a mano.

[28] And Tokali has to take a decision.

[29] In to Finlandia to compete in the Championship of the Super 17 of the FIFA.

[30] And the child that I've ever in the video is exactly what he was looking.

[31] But the team was already formed.

[32] And I'm, I don't bring it.

[33] And these chico that are you working two years and I don't get it.

[34] Tocali, guard the cassette.

[35] Decide to go to Finlandia with the team that has.

[36] At final At first, to the team Argentino he goes very well.

[37] Argentina 2.

[38] Costa Rica 0.

[39] We're going to the semifinal without that they met them no one until they're not to be to end up two to do, we're going to go to Spain.

[40] Regress at the hotel disillusioned and it was an margura because it was a situation that I had a experience to log a championship to come to dinner to dinner in the restaurant.

[41] It's a man elegant, Ojos verdos, bellowed, an air a chico Uarke.

[42] The melancholia he gets good.

[43] Sentado there, he does his about how and why he's bad the things.

[44] In what I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm like I'm I'm people that in the Argentina the football is basically like a religion.

[45] And the the part this something something to for Tocali, because he to try to find to the next prophet.

[46] And for if that not was sufficient, the team of Spain is a spedandos in the same hotel.

[47] They're there, on the side of him celebrating in the restaurant.

[48] And well, in one of those, after to see at Tocali, sentado there with the mirada gotcha, it's the co -siner of the selection Spanish Spaniola.

[49] Yeah they've seen before in some the but this this this time he says a something serious.

[50] That there's a a child that is a phenomenon, that's a football like an extraterrestrial.

[51] It's Argentino, but live in Spain.

[52] And me says, Cocinero, Tocali, if you have that chabal, and he'll see, and he says, no?

[53] The Cossinero's, because his chiefs, the of the team of Spanish, are satos there and here, and here is where Hugo Tocali he does a count that the Cucinero he's talking of the kid of the video.

[54] Messy, I'll Leo Messi And the Cucinero He said How?

[55] How?

[56] He knows and you know he The football is complicated You can get to be one of the young of the world and even still being a known in your own well welcome to the ULT Cup a production of NPR and Futuro Studios I am Jamm Gars Today on the podcast the history of How a legend of the football terminated so far away and the crisis that we launched to Messi and me and a hundreds of millions more to go to the Argentina.

[57] Dejar the country is one of the things more difficult of the life.

[58] So, why always we always we're going to learn?

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[60] Our chapter of today contains the language explicit and a scene with sounds of arms of fire.

[61] Our story will continue after the pause.

[62] Yeah is a time in the night in Rosario, a city that is a hour of the capital Buenos Aires of where is it's but the people still are playing young perci in the polota under the behind the of a mural of a ms and is that just in this cancha is where the legendary Messi hugo he his first of of the cunas of the football national.

[63] Here there's a bit of a chupet and a pelota of football.

[64] If you're too small to play, you're looking how the nennes more grandes play partitions in your barrio.

[65] In this interview with a channel of YouTube, called Part of the Game, Don Salvador to Paricio, a trainer local of Rosario, tells the story of how Messi played his first partido.

[66] I don't know how many years I had, he was the chiquito.

[67] to Don Salvador he felt about a player so he made to make you the first man he saw a little Leo Messi he had four years and at the first the pelota he passed by the and Messi he was well then another jugas and comes the and he he comes to the left the left practically he's he pegas but there something there something the pulga accommoded the Pilota and he He went Hembedio to all the world.

[68] So, is how the dream.

[69] And this dream, so common in Latin America, in the Argentina has his own name, the Sue of the Pib.

[70] It's the dream that do you do you start in the can't in the barrio, to start to a national and then the selection.

[71] The World That is the the dream of the pibe.

[72] Messi is like the archetype of a family of class a worker, father that laburable in a fabric of acero, mom that limpegues and aubela that was a man that would have to the cancha of the barrio.

[73] After a time, playing for the team of Don Salvador to Parisio, in 1994 Messi is going to play to a league infantil with Nules All -Boys.

[74] In a final incredible, he won't the the principal equip of Rosario, that at a level national is important very much.

[75] The team of Messi, all the kids in the 87, was so good, that they said in the machine the one of exceptional, Messi brilli when I was I'm that I'm that said, that I'm play to his company they're that Leo was something special.

[76] I think Leonell is resalted the other because for the conditions, the velocity, the technique that he had.

[77] Sergio Maradona, who no has no any parentesco with Diego, he said that he fascinated the way to play of Leo.

[78] But in that then was totally different.

[79] It was another planet so.

[80] But there a problem.

[81] A media that passed in the years, Leo no was growing as much was very little for his So, so, that at the 11 years, Messi went to a endocrinologist, the Dr. Diego Schwartstein.

[82] And what he all is that Leo had a deficiency hormonal.

[83] A bit, if he had not done so much any child with a deficit hormone of growth, would have been more than what is impossible to know what, 10, 15 centimeters, less.

[84] I think he plays too that would have been able with 10 centimeters less.

[85] I don't see at this level, probably not.

[86] in an interview with ESPN in the 2003, Messi, that for then was an adolescent timid, of voice -kebrada, about the experience of having to injectors two times per day.

[87] I was doing a treatment because I had the hormone dormita.

[88] I had to put an injection all the night, all the night and all the day a injection to try to get to the hormone and that's going to get to the normal.

[89] And it It's not.

[90] Messi started to cresar.

[91] All so it was accommodated, but only dured a moment.

[92] The things in the country were changing, as placas tectonics accommodating silencius under our feet.

[93] One constant in my infancy, the way Leo Messi and many people Argentin of the years 90s was the situation economic.

[94] We're we're with parents preoccupated for the money.

[95] Even, we're re -distinted Elie I'm while Messy perfectionable his gambetta extraordinary in Rosario, I was in Buenos Aires perfectioning my technique of delineado negro, while I had to my brother.

[96] All this while was listening Houn, two minutes, and much cumbia.

[97] My verano porteos transcurr in the house of my abel, where my and I, we passed the morning watching the TV, while she cooking and was sing about balleros and tango and I'm much I'm I'm afraid to I'm at a I'm well, here not you can't be all the day, salgan.

[98] And I go to get to the park to fumarillo barattos with my friends in the night when I I'd back to house, me fumiguged with deserante, to scounder the odor of tobacco, and a few times me metia in the camera at the side of my abuela.

[99] Hamas never had confesated this to my friends' adolescents, but my abuela and I were we were garras of the man for that we coulderamos to go ahead for the dreams.

[100] The abelah and I was a personage.

[101] Dormiaeed with the platforms, placed for if there was an emergency and I had to start to be going to be on platforms.

[102] He'd always below of the almoada a radicito of plastic, where I'd hear of the news.

[103] In the dialogue with radio national Radical Raphael At costada there, the old of the abuela I'd that the newserer was that was up strepitosament that was 14 % 15 % 17 % Eventually, eventually would get a 20.

[104] I was listening that voice full of statica.

[105] The problem is that the people had no had a money because no cobrowed a no had an ingress so those increases are badgissim.

[106] Sergio Zerunikov is an economist Argentino of the Council National of Investigations scientific and technical.

[107] And the class media even, you know, began to get below of the levels of the levels of people of people of class -media that always had had been a standard of life relatively acceptable, that he started in the poverty.

[108] The system of health also was deteriorating.

[109] The red social in Argentina was ramped.

[110] He was Dr. Diego Schwartstein, the endocrinologist of Leo Messi.

[111] The society Argentina perdied all his red social of protection and solidity.

[112] And then in some moment They started to say to the patients, this month, not you can't give the hormone.

[113] That was a lio for much people, but, I insist, it's interrupied in treatments oncological, the provision of insulin for the diabetics.

[114] The family of Messi has said that Nules, the club of football, he left to pay the hormones.

[115] Even the clubs great in the Argentina, that one would thinker that are intocables in a carida economic, they were encamined to a crisis.

[116] And without that treatment hormonal, the future as a athlete of Messi was incert.

[117] It was then when the Messies started to plantearse if it was a moment to go to look opportunities out of Rosario.

[118] The economy was affectable almost all.

[119] My papa was a professor in the University of Buenos Aires and he lost almost his job.

[120] My mom was a maestra and not It was to be able.

[121] Practically, we'd we'd get without ingress.

[122] I was about terminated, and in more of a occasion, me spurted in the middle of the night, for a box of the water, and me I found my old, sentado in the kitchen, looking at the vacuio, preoccupied.

[123] He also was starting to think, if we'd be we're going to.

[124] Despite the pause, the equipes European commenced to make much, much, much plata, and they're to lookers in America Latina.

[125] I know that they were envisoriating, obviously, that there were in the tribunal.

[126] Inclusing the cancha of Messi in Rosario.

[127] Yeah, we'll be.

[128] The people, a lot of before, not very common, to be a tantosurers Latin American in the great teams European.

[129] In the 90s, Europe began to permit that play more strangers in their teams.

[130] And there was another transformation.

[131] What he started to The business of the football is the television that did more massive.

[132] Nicola Rivabia is abodeo -specialized in Derecho Deportivo.

[133] The market of the football was to transform and to globalize in the years 90.

[134] The Cable was one of the factors that changed all.

[135] Tomemes this example in England In 1992, in 1992, The Premier League, football Britannical, he sold the directs to a new, Sky Network, for 304 million of libras sterlingas.

[136] Here we go.

[137] Weekends will never be the same again.

[138] We're here for the next five hours with Super Sunday.

[139] And all this significo, patrocinios.

[140] It's became the grand business.

[141] And to the clubs European, it's other idea.

[142] And if we're to us when are more jovencitos, when they're have started their career?

[143] And, well, to you're the first in discover it in a lot of they'll have been more and the value that will be less That in the business in the business would change the course of the life of both Leo Messi as the of his company Sergio.

[144] Sergio, that he was in Jules, at the same time that I'll, me told him that in the year 2000, when he had 11 years, 11 years, nothing more, a visor, a scout, of a football club, Spanish, went to Rosario to see him to play a party.

[145] I don't know that they were in the tribunal.

[146] Sergio was exceptionally good.

[147] It's more, in Rosario, when I went to do interviews for this story, a lot of times when apagable the grabator the people me said that Sergio was even that's even maybe even even better.

[148] But in that his party Sergio no he called very bad to my father I'm I remember I'm I'm I'm because because no I had had been a good partido no didn't no the people people He offered that Sergio was he only to Spain or that's both, father and son, and he would give a little mensuality.

[149] For the Papa of Sergio, this was inconceivable.

[150] As my my old was the sustentto, in that the time only of my family, no could go to and the arrepentiment of him not is, because he said that never I was going to go to his son his son.

[151] His papa never he told that he when they came to see the scouts Spanioles.

[152] And, and also that he said that he says, he says, that he says that he's been to be in Spain to and that's really, that's very doloros for me we've had been more more when when, when for there are in those things, no?

[153] Sergio he dedicated to to play in Ligas in America Latina.

[154] Dice that even until the day of day of the The question.

[155] What would have happened if his papa would have said to say to the Spaniolese?

[156] Only me I kept with the intrigue to be to be able to be with other resources, obviously in this then in Europe to the food, muchismas other things more that suffered here in Argentina terrible.

[157] And is that the crisis was also to feel in the canchas.

[158] Much of the trainers with those that I began to see people even more more chico, that with problems of nutrition.

[159] I think that any chico that has the opportunity should have to go to the exterior.

[160] There was another chico of Nules that also took the opportunity to go to.

[161] In that same time, the father of Messi came to to talk to one of the the best of Spain.

[162] The Varsa.

[163] I'm saying that me will be a chick of Argentina that will be a Prue Javvy Javich was one of the first trainers of the young Messi.

[164] The first first time that I see a little bit that has a age that he's not a guy that he doesn't talk, he looks and he does the first of days is what does it but footballistic it's transformable the the game vertical and he he had chas and he he was he was he was he was even were so convinced.

[165] Not only because it was a child of 13 years, also because the club was to have to pay his treatments hormonals.

[166] Then, no is no guarantee that will because triumphal is very difficult.

[167] Chicoes very good, we've seen to all the ages, but then we have to get and have to have to be a patience.

[168] You have to be very very strong of mentally and to have very clear that will be sacrificed many things of your life.

[169] The Messi regressers without a first at the 2001 the barsa they say that empaqen his things has a place in the team in the not they don't they were a much was February 15 of 2001 Guillem Balaget says that he said that did he all a poe I'm I'm I'm Exploted all.

[170] I remember perfectly of the moment in the moment I felt that my country was when I'm when I was a child in the he'd he'd a 20 -tantos years.

[171] Even until the day of today I think in it.

[172] I'm was just a multitude of people protestando in the Plaza of Mayo not not so so much to I were were grittable, we're we're going to and then then you're a woman.

[173] I was a oldeastern, although no tend much than than the child that arraughtraband.

[174] And is that had been more violent the repression of the government against the manifestations.

[175] The crisis no passed the night to the morning.

[176] In the 70s, in the dictator, the debt external quintipliced.

[177] Summed to that decades of politics economic desastroas a state and the corruption desenfrenated of the 90s were only some of the factors that were a situation insustainable.

[178] And for many Argentinians, the gota that clom was when at the beginning of December, a crisis of a disempleo, it's a certain money could get the get the people to his accounts.

[179] Imagine the desperation of the people that go to and say, no, you know, you can't get your abhorros.

[180] Sergio Zerulnikov, economist Argentino.

[181] The sense of alienation, of desperation, of injustice, to say, I've got my money, and now me say, I'm saying that a kind of, a climate that, that, well, so revirt in this stachied.

[182] The situation was so angustiant, that groups of people desperated to get in the supermarkets they'd get in the supermarkets, and they'd get rid of this people!

[183] This people has to do you.

[184] I remember the day in that the government was declared a state of a state.

[185] It's it's a a talk of a president of the Argentinus Dr. Fernando De La Rua They've have occurred in the case of violence that put in peril people and vienes and create a quadro of commotion interior.

[186] I want to informarles that, I've decreeded the state of city in all the territory national.

[187] But the people went to protested and the police reprimed brutally.

[188] The protests were so massive, so vociferants, that after a time, forced to the president to renunciate.

[189] And, and in the next two years, we've got four presidents more.

[190] It was in those days that my My young said, Basta.

[191] We did we're a reunion family with my abelos.

[192] We said that if we we'd have to help us economically when they were more grand.

[193] It's the only time that I saw to abelor.

[194] The manner in that he was the redone coffee to that he was so doloros for me that in the middle of the conversation me excused to go to go to the board of the bandiarder and I large to you're in one of those days suffocating of the very my wife she put his a and and it it's on the little the little in the airport she was she and now I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm been been I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm that was like in the credits of a movie.

[195] No, I would have for many years.

[196] It's estimated that some 255 ,000 Argentinians emigran during that crisis.

[197] The economist Sergio Zerulnikov me told that in those days, in the airport, there was a graffiti that leighi.

[198] It's the ultimate that's that the last.

[199] In this video of 2001, Mese has 13 years.

[200] He was recently he said a Barcelona.

[201] You know he's like alibiated?

[202] Yes, the really very content because nothing to live here even your family, your family and all what you want, but here I've lived a life different and much much better.

[203] But however, Shavi Jorens, one of his first not very much he was sacrificed the family with his family from the 13 years live in Barcelona but is that mom and his brothers.

[204] They live in Argentina.

[205] I mean, very difficult.

[206] In this interview, also of 2001 with ESPN, in the voice of Messi, there's like a job of soledadad.

[207] And I know I get, the time that I get to get to more to get to sleep, and I'm more, man, I'm just to be my house watching television.

[208] And then So, he says something rare, inesperated, vending to the book of a child that is living like a quote of adas footballistic.

[209] Or, maybe, not is nothing rarer.

[210] Maybe it's the most normal of the world.

[211] He says that he's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a but, well, I'm a inch of Jueber, I'd like to play in Newber.

[212] And, well, I hope that some day could go to Newburgh and play in first.

[213] Volver and to play for his club.

[214] The sonya of the kid, but never he did.

[215] In change, it ascended meteorically in the Equipo -Jewenil of the Barza.

[216] At the finals of 2003, Messi debuted with the team of the First Division of the Varsa, the team of the Grandes.

[217] They're on Porto, for so the commentarists are in Portuguese.

[218] During during almost almost all the party, Messi is sat down in the bank, he's a little nervous.

[219] And yeah when he's going to get in the can't Maradona you say you say the commentarista and referring obviously to obviously to the God of the world would be a maldition but would be a maldiction.

[220] But for now, enters Messi, Rissuello, his melina in the wind, like the orejas of a cachorrito, felis.

[221] The uniform he's a great, it's very tierno.

[222] Leo Messi.

[223] Messi no met a goal in this part, but he's a lot in various occasions.

[224] That day, in his debut, he gave to all a probadita of his grandessa.

[225] He was only 16 years, one of the players more young in debut for the team of first of the first of Marse.

[226] So, Messe, Leo Messie, 16 years.

[227] No is surprising then that Spain wanted that in and why not?

[228] Spain had had done much to get the Argentina for we don't come to to back a cowboy wrapped up in white linen This is the band Sonora of my life when I came to States.

[229] Tex. Ritter.

[230] Cansions of Cowboys.

[231] You explain.

[232] While Messi had a marvellousado to who were in Europe, my family and I we lived in a motel in the south of California.

[233] The first year in the States United I took like many jobs at the publicdomestics, cajera the bathroom in a salon of beauty.

[234] And one of my work was, was like a vendor in a tinderer in a tinder that's called The Frustrated Cowboy, the vaquero Frustraud.

[235] The shoproweres of cowboy to a clientele suburbana, all the song of cancions of boateros of Hollywood Antigua, like Tex. It was like if me had tried in the most profound of the United without salvavidas.

[236] And in those moments me awogaba the soledad.

[237] And I thought, I'm I'm an error to come here.

[238] No, I could pay me return to but always I'm present to my country, like who looks a image in the space in the and all the nights, when I went to me myself, in when I could I go the But maybe in some months, well, in one year.

[239] It's fine, I do two years, or three.

[240] Three years, in three years, I can't assure you to that my family, my years, my brother, stay in here, and I'm going to go.

[241] And so, it was passing the time.

[242] Until that one day I did count that my country had been in a pointito in the horizon of my spejo retrovisor.

[243] And that I was just about But always that I promised me myself to to go back, he said in serious.

[244] And I think that Messi also also said in serious.

[245] Although Spain it was with the arms abirtos, not is the same than you want to play for your country.

[246] Another of my goal is to play with the selection of Argentina.

[247] That is something I want to want to And even I was illustrating botes of cowboy while he had his first million, I understand completely why he said to Spain that no. That not going to play in the selection Spanish, that he wanted to play for the selection of his country.

[248] But there a little problem.

[249] Messi no figure out in the world of the football Argentino.

[250] Hugo Tocali, the trainer of the Sub -17, the who was talked to at the beginning of this chapter, not said of his existence before to receive that video that he left Mood.

[251] I was like five because I'm impressioned.

[252] And even after to see it, he decided to go to the Worldial Sub -17 of Finlandia, the 2003, Sin Messi.

[253] They were losing against Spain.

[254] It was like Tokali and other technicians of the team Argentino terminated with Malbeck with the co -inero Spanish, the who he was the a guy a guy that had to debut with the first Barza, Leo Messi.

[255] And if the Argentinians are no good.

[256] Gerardo, the profe, Salorio, was working to Tocali in the Selecionado.

[257] Even today, about 20 years after, Tocali, he does golfs against his story to record that the moment.

[258] You can't be sure that if I had a button to press it to get to bring to a partido, it wasia.

[259] The trammites for that Messi would be to play with the selection Argentina came a little after.

[260] The association of football called the country of the same -vino, Paraguay, to organize a party amistoso with the team sub -20.

[261] We didn't know we we said we're going to do a party to obligate a player to play for our country.

[262] We meant him.

[263] The professor Salario me told that all he did in a form very sigilosa.

[264] No, they'd like Paraguay knew that they were doing a favor to the Argentina.

[265] Logar that one of the players most Prometeders of the world to unier to the selection of one a lot of it's not a regular a little Byzantina of the football international in that the regla said the if a if a player that no was a single was a of that selection and was in a partido official with boletos vendid boom that that person he pertensia to now and ever for the centuries of the years of the years Amen the 29 of June of 2004 finally kept onel Messi he put the camisetta of the selection Argentina and he said nobody Salorio was that day in the stadium there three gats in the tribune but we had to do you have and to bring entry Tise a channel Argentino relatively new in that episode transmitted the party Lionel Messi is all incognito.

[266] Gallowed, we're doing some data in the arraignment of the transmission if it's, it's valid reiterar those.

[267] 17 years, nasied in Rosario.

[268] All right, for the 12 years, I was playing in the divisions menor.

[269] A Messi they're meten in the second time.

[270] And at the first, his own team, it seems to ignore it.

[271] We're going to give a opportunity to Messi, no?

[272] I'm got to.

[273] Yeah, for that the party was made in a goliada of Argentina against Paraguay.

[274] And they're going to 6 to 0.

[275] And finally they're going to and then they're going to see the player that you know we're gambetea his opponents at the velocity of the cross the cancha in seconds and the seventh goal gambete to that's six Paraguas and he got to get a got him he's a goalos Messi goalos goalos the Argentina Mese the maniora His first goal for the Argentina.

[276] The three gats in the cancha they applauded at the pie.

[277] The professor Salorio recalls that all those who were there that day they asked them the same.

[278] Rubes, where did they get this?

[279] He was not in the rod of nobody.

[280] Yeah, I had debuted with the first division of the Barza.

[281] It had been applauded in Europe.

[282] But, But, nothing is comparer to come back to come back to even not know what we know to make to be to get to time to come to come is that never is easy and that and that try it can in the next episode of the last cup if if go METes de scup in in Spain in a chabal I was I had If no, Correa, here you matter.

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[284] This episode was produced by Fernanda Echabarri.

[285] Production additional of Jeannie Montalvo.

[286] Julieta Martinelli is occupied of the production in the Argentina with the support of Paz S. Sarabia.

[287] Our editor is Louis Treyes.

[288] The equipment of the last cup is Juan Diego Ramirez, Lilliana Ruiz, Julieta Martinelli, Nicole Rothwell, Joaquin Kotler, Andrew Mambo, and Nick Neves.

[289] Catherine Silva, she encargo of the engineering, Sarah Knight of fact -checking.

[290] Our passante was Cameron Howell.

[291] Music, courtesy of ZZK Records and Rattas Encelo.

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