#2173 - Jimmy Dore

[0] Joe Rogan podcast, checking out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] What killed on a drink, bud?

[4] His Zionism, you know, if he didn't have that, I think he could be president, but it's...

[5] You mean RFK Jr.?

[6] Yeah.

[7] Oh, I was confused.

[8] I was like, what?

[9] I was like, how did this have anything to do with the boycott of Starbucks and McDonald's and Sir Hans Sir Han?

[10] Like, what?

[11] Some rabbit hole shit I didn't know about.

[12] Is that possible?

[13] You know, Sirhan, Sirhan, his house was in Pasadena, which was close to where I used to live.

[14] Really?

[15] Yeah, I didn't.

[16] One day, my wife was like, yeah, the Sir and Surin' Surin lives over here.

[17] I'm like, get out of here.

[18] I didn't know.

[19] Have you ever read into the MK Ultra connection between Sirhan, Sirhan, Jack Ruby, and Jolly West?

[20] So, no, I haven't, but now I'm working with Kurt Metzger, and he knows all that shit.

[21] He knows too much.

[22] He can just go out.

[23] You've ruined him.

[24] You've ruined him.

[25] Because he didn't, I don't think he's aware of so many legitimate actual conspiracies, meaning like where governments and corporations conspire against the American people lie, twist facts, distort things.

[26] But Kurt is one of those guys that once he finds out something, You know, because he grew up in a cult, right?

[27] Yeah.

[28] So he's in a Jehovah's Witness cult when he was young.

[29] Sorry, Jehovah's Witnesses.

[30] But, and then becomes a comedian.

[31] And, you know, like, he's so averse to bullshit.

[32] He's like, oh, no, no, no, no. Because, like, you fucking ruined my childhood.

[33] I know what this is.

[34] I've seen this before.

[35] I've seen this in another form.

[36] I know what this is.

[37] Yeah, that's his, like, superpower because he's been through it.

[38] You ruined him.

[39] His show, you ruined him.

[40] He's so crazy now.

[41] He gets so mad now.

[42] Do you see him get upset on the show?

[43] He gets legit angry.

[44] Here it is.

[45] Other controversial cases West was assigned to, including evaluating Sir Han Sir Han, who assassinated Robert F. Kennedy, excuse me, at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, June 5th, 1968.

[46] West claimed Sirhan was a subject of psychic driving.

[47] a mind -altering technique involving hypnosis or paralytic drugs.

[48] Psychiatrists often use barbiturus for this.

[49] Settle the fuck down.

[50] You used acid.

[51] Stop lying.

[52] What is this?

[53] Oh, maybe possibly barbiturates or something legal.

[54] No, they were using acid.

[55] Who's this West guy?

[56] Jolly West was the head of M .K. Ultra.

[57] Oh, no kidding.

[58] Yeah, that they chronicle extensively in Thomas O 'Neill's book, Chaos, about the Manson case.

[59] Oh, so, yeah, my wife is reading that right now.

[60] God damn, that's a good book.

[61] And she has it on audiobook, so I walk through the house and I'll hear like, what the fuck?

[62] You know how crazy that book is Tom was Greg Fitzsimmons' roommate in New York.

[63] And then also, not roommate, excuse me, neighbor.

[64] He was his neighbor in New York.

[65] And then also his neighbor in Venice, California.

[66] So they were near each other.

[67] For 20 years, this guy's been working on this.

[68] He started working on it as an article.

[69] Right?

[70] So he writes it as an article, but then once he starts getting into the information, it's so extensive, it's so crazy that he can't finish the article because the article is just an anniversary of the Manson assassination, the Manson killings.

[71] So then...

[72] 20 years later, he finally puts out this book.

[73] And he's got enough information for another fucking book.

[74] And it's wild.

[75] It's all a CIA plot.

[76] The Manson family was all...

[77] Manson was visited in prison by Jolly West.

[78] They trained him, allegedly, in hypnosis techniques, using LSD, how to mind control people.

[79] He would not do the acid, but he would give the acid to the people, which is something also that apparently...

[80] The MK Ultra People trained him, and he would get them to commit evil acts.

[81] And the whole thing was to discredit the anti -war movement.

[82] That's the whole thing was the hippies.

[83] Yeah.

[84] Yeah.

[85] So they turned hippies into something fucking terrifying.

[86] So hippies used to be like, oh, she's a flower child.

[87] Yeah.

[88] Oh, they're peace and love.

[89] You know, cute.

[90] Nice stuff.

[91] But then they turned hippies into fucking psychotic murderers who cut babies out of movie stars bellies and paint on the wall, pig, you know, that kind of shit.

[92] Yeah, Kurt was also telling me about that.

[93] Like, that's the perfect way to discredit the anti -war movement.

[94] Yes.

[95] Well, that's also why the Psychedelics Act of 1970 was passed.

[96] Oh, really?

[97] Yes, the Psychedelic Act of 1970 was passed to go after the Black Panthers and to go after the civil rights leaders and to go after the anti -war movement.

[98] Because those people were all taking drugs.

[99] So they're eating mushrooms and trying to come to like some sort of an understanding of our place in the universe.

[100] And they said, okay, we're going to take all of these psychedelic compounds that are literally creating a cultural revolution.

[101] So you go from the 1950s, you get, I always say music is like the best representation of that and comedy as well, but really music.

[102] If you look at like Buddy Holly, great music, great stuff.

[103] And then Jimmy Hendrix is 10 years later.

[104] What the fuck is that?

[105] That's like a revolution.

[106] Like out of nowhere.

[107] Something is insanely different.

[108] Like it's not even from this earth.

[109] Not even from this earth.

[110] That's all psychedelics.

[111] And we've never had a leap like that sense.

[112] Nope.

[113] Isn't that weird?

[114] Like you listen to music from the 80s and a lot of it sounds like it could be made today.

[115] It's Coke music.

[116] The 80s, they were all doing Coke.

[117] They were watching Miami Vice.

[118] They were doing Coke and wearing no socks with loafers.

[119] But remember, I mean, whenever I hear a Prince song, I'm like, oh, that could be made today.

[120] That could have been from right now.

[121] Yeah, well, Prince was the most versatile, right?

[122] Because he could do anything.

[123] Like, if you go to his early stuff, it was like this real sweet music about fucking, you know?

[124] Yes, he was all about fucking.

[125] Like head, you ever heard that song, Head, like from his first out, or I think his second album?

[126] God, he was good.

[127] He was so good.

[128] I love that he had that.

[129] There was that band of Morris Day and the Time.

[130] Yes.

[131] I like them almost more than Prince.

[132] I just like them.

[133] Oh, he's got this one song that's on our, I think it's on the playlist.

[134] I hope it's on the playlist.

[135] If it's not, I'm going to put it on there right now.

[136] It's called Cool.

[137] Because I'm cool.

[138] Yeah, that's right.

[139] Do, do, do, do.

[140] Am I done in San Francisco?

[141] Dance all night and wrong.

[142] That's it, yeah.

[143] Yeah, Morris Day was the shit.

[144] Yeah.

[145] Maurice, bring me by it.

[146] I love that.

[147] I thought that Morris Day was going to be bigger than...

[148] I know.

[149] Well, I didn't think he was ever going to be bigger than Prince.

[150] I think Prince is a legitimate, was, excuse me, a legitimate genius.

[151] Oh, yeah, he was.

[152] And he's another guy that we lost because of fucking bullshit because of fentanyl.

[153] Yeah, you think that's what...

[154] That's what happened to him.

[155] What do you think about...

[156] So now people are revisiting the...

[157] God, it wasn't in the playlist.

[158] It is now.

[159] Oh, it is?

[160] I had to put it in the mothership playlist.

[161] How's that not in there?

[162] He has a song called Walk, Everybody Walk Your Body.

[163] Anybody walk your body.

[164] Yeah.

[165] I'm about to walk a hole in my Stacey's.

[166] He was just so cool.

[167] And so then I would go out and buy Stacey Adams' shoes.

[168] Yeah.

[169] I would.

[170] And so there was this place.

[171] Oh, there was a very derogatory.

[172] It was Maxwell Street in Chicago.

[173] And they used to call it, I can't say it, because it's anti -Semitic.

[174] And so we would go down there and you could walk into all these clothes stores and you could bargain with them.

[175] And I never experienced that before.

[176] Like you walk in and usually the price was a price.

[177] You go to the mall.

[178] The prices, you can't bargain, but you could bargain.

[179] So it was like an exciting thing to do.

[180] Me and my brothers would all go down there and you'd go into all these stores and you'd like put all these clothes together and like when we'd start bartering.

[181] Like, okay, how about this?

[182] How about that?

[183] It was fun.

[184] I missed those days.

[185] That's where in the Blues Brothers, remember they go down to get the black guy who's the clarinet player and...

[186] You better think, think.

[187] So whatever, that's where that took place.

[188] Oh, wow.

[189] And but I think that's all gone now.

[190] I think they got rid of that.

[191] And they, I don't know what they put.

[192] Probably an applebee's.

[193] I think the University of Illinois, Chicago may be expanded into there.

[194] Oh, interesting.

[195] Interesting.

[196] Those were the days.

[197] I missed the Morris Day in the time.

[198] I miss those days.

[199] These are the best days.

[200] But those, but then there's...

[201] These days right now.

[202] These are the best days.

[203] You think?

[204] Yeah, by far.

[205] Well, they are for me. By far for everybody.

[206] Because we get all the other stuff from those other eras.

[207] We still can listen to that too.

[208] We can still watch that too.

[209] But we have a bizarre time where the world is waking up, where people are so much more aware of the corruption and just the way the world works is more highlighted than it's ever been before.

[210] And I think it's more fun.

[211] It's like some of the things that are stupid are so stupid.

[212] Like when you see Biden, we beat Medicare.

[213] And they go, thank you, Mr. President.

[214] And they smash cut.

[215] Like, how the fuck is that real?

[216] How is that real?

[217] The guy, like, locks up like Windows 95, stammers for 15 seconds.

[218] And then he says, we beat Medicare.

[219] I was doing a show the other night at the hotel cafe in Hollywood, and I'd do a joke about Joe Biden, you know, like, why don't they get a dog to leave him off stage, you know, and the people in the crowd, like they're all like 20 -something Hollywood people, and they go, oh.

[220] And I was like, what?

[221] I have friends like you.

[222] I know what that.

[223] Listen, they've done a good job.

[224] They've done a really good job of pretending that they're compassionate.

[225] I love Joe Biden.

[226] I love, I've always loved Joe.

[227] No one's ever fucking loved Joe Biden.

[228] Yeah.

[229] He's always been a joke and a punchline.

[230] And this idea that somehow it's Joe Biden's integrity and truth telling against Donald Trump, he lied, lied.

[231] The first time Joe Biden ran for president, he had to drop out because he got exposed for being a pathological liar.

[232] He said he graduated at the top of his class.

[233] He graduated at the bottom.

[234] He said he had three majors.

[235] He said he was chosen the most outstanding political.

[236] No, it was all lies.

[237] And then he got caught plagiarizing.

[238] Someone else, not only this their speeches, but like their life story.

[239] He was like, who does that?

[240] And so he had to, he's been a joke, always was a joke.

[241] And this idea, you know, the reason why black and brown had to, I had to, you know, tell this to Cornell West when he came on my show.

[242] Hey, the reason why black and brown people are locked up at way higher rates than their population is because of Joe Biden, not because of Donald Trump.

[243] Donald Trump actually did the step back, right?

[244] Which is probably why he's getting 20 % of the black vote right now.

[245] So this, all their, you're right, all their narratives are falling away.

[246] People are waking up.

[247] And not only in America, but I do, not to get, I do miss a time before cell phones and, uh, the internet it was it was like more of an innocent time i do miss that time i'm glad we went through it yeah i mean i'm i'm also but i don't miss it okay but um i was just in europe right i want a 11 day tour or whatever And I didn't know if I was going to have, you know, anybody's going to show up.

[248] They did.

[249] And it's like the same shit.

[250] That people here, they're upset at the media.

[251] They're upset at the control.

[252] They're upset at the censorship.

[253] And I didn't know, like Jeff Bezos.

[254] I was in Norway.

[255] And they're like, yeah, Jeff Bezos owns freaking media here too.

[256] I'm like, what?

[257] I didn't know.

[258] I'd never thought about like that.

[259] Of course they would.

[260] Of course.

[261] And so, and everybody's going through the same shit.

[262] London, Sweden, Denmark, Norway.

[263] fucking pissed off like like I am and they're like all sick of being lied to and they're all they're all hate their media and they all feel controlled that's what's good about today because before the media used to do exactly what they're doing now but they didn't it wasn't transparent Right.

[264] Nobody knew, right?

[265] Well, there used to be 50 giant media companies.

[266] So there used to be more truth that could get out.

[267] But now, because Bill Clinton and the Telecommunications Act in 1996, we went from 50 giant media companies down to six, meaning that every TV show, every newspaper, every magazine, every radio show, it all comes from one of the six companies.

[268] And that's why journalism sucks so much right now because journalists used to come from blue -collar backgrounds like me, but now they know they all have to work for one of the six billionaire -owned companies.

[269] And so the billionaires handpicked those people from Ivy League schools now, and they're all going to be class loyal.

[270] And so that's why the whole thing is, you know...

[271] It's a great time, but also we're pitted against each other now by the media like never before, right?

[272] Like, no matter what the story is, they have their minions in the press reported in a way that makes you hate your neighbor and blame your neighbor and not the guy's doing it, right?

[273] Yeah.

[274] So the oligarchy keeps us fighting amongst each other, and that's real.

[275] That's not made up.

[276] I mean, look at how they lied about...

[277] The biggest story, like so the Kyle Rittenhouse story, right?

[278] Now, I hated that kid because the corporate media told me he was a white supremacist who didn't live in that community.

[279] He traveled across state lines with guns to shoot three black people at a Black Lives Matter rally.

[280] And I hated him.

[281] And then I watched the trial.

[282] And it turns out he did live in that community.

[283] He was a lifeguard in that community.

[284] He was asked to protect a car dealership by immigrants of color because the cops wouldn't.

[285] And he didn't travel across state lines with guns.

[286] And he didn't shoot three black people.

[287] He shot three white people.

[288] And I was like...

[289] I think he only shot two guys.

[290] Maybe you're right.

[291] Maybe...

[292] Wasn't it?

[293] He killed one.

[294] Did he shoot three?

[295] And then he shot the other guy through the arm.

[296] Through the arm.

[297] Yeah.

[298] And they're all three criminals.

[299] That's another part they leave out.

[300] They're all three criminals, terrible people.

[301] This is the thing about riots, right?

[302] When riots are too much like a war.

[303] Like anytime there's a gathering, protests, when people get angry and they're marching.

[304] I think that ignites in us the same feelings of war.

[305] And people start doing wild crazy shit.

[306] They went after that dude with a skateboard and tried to hit him with a skateboard.

[307] He ran away for them before he shot him.

[308] So he shot the first guy who was the puttophile, right?

[309] And we know that guy had threatened to.

[310] So he shot and killed two men, wounded another man. So three.

[311] So he killed two and wounded one.

[312] And the first guy he shot had threatened to kill him all day long, and we know that he attacked him because his fingerprints are on the gun barrel.

[313] It even says it right there in Wikipedia.

[314] Stop, go back.

[315] Yeah, grab the barrel of his rifle.

[316] There it is.

[317] But it says, look at this.

[318] A race was a major theme in the U .S. media commentary, although written house and those he shot were white.

[319] We're white.

[320] Isn't that wild?

[321] Yes.

[322] Most people didn't know, including people that met Kyle Rittenhouse.

[323] Like someone, David Lucas, the stand -up comedian, he knows Kyle Rittenhouse.

[324] He brought Kyle Rittenhouse to the mothership.

[325] And guys who were there who met him, when what, the guys you shot were white?

[326] Yeah.

[327] Like everybody's like, what?

[328] Yeah.

[329] And then...

[330] You have to tell them, not only were they white, like these guys were like career criminals.

[331] One guy was a pedophile.

[332] The one guy pulled a gun on him.

[333] Yeah.

[334] Yeah.

[335] The media just fucked that kid and he won.

[336] And he won and he got exonerated and, you know, and now go, no, people say to me, they go, Jimmy, why are you defending Kyle Rittenhouse?

[337] I go, I'm not defending Kyle Rittenhouse.

[338] I don't know Kyle Rittenhouse.

[339] I'm defending the truth.

[340] And why aren't you pissed off that the corporate media lied about a 16 year old kid to divide the country?

[341] Because that's what that was about.

[342] Yeah, and you're just going to polarize that kid even more.

[343] I mean, that kid's going to lean so far right now.

[344] Of course.

[345] Of course.

[346] They're the only people that stood by him and everybody else lied about him.

[347] The media lied about him.

[348] And so many people had this.

[349] So there's surface narratives, right?

[350] And surface narratives are the best.

[351] The media is the best at propagating surface narratives.

[352] They're best at headlines, even if they're misleading.

[353] Safe and effective.

[354] Yeah, but these surface narratives are the ones that get into people's heads that are the least informed.

[355] And that's the general population.

[356] People still think Russia Gates real.

[357] Oh, yeah.

[358] Look at people like Bill Moore.

[359] Oh, yeah.

[360] That was shocking to me. I'm like, oh, I thought he just hated Trump.

[361] He doesn't even know what the WEF is all about.

[362] He didn't even.

[363] Did you see Roseanne had to tell him?

[364] Yeah, that's crazy.

[365] He didn't even know what M .K. Ultra was.

[366] That's crazy.

[367] Like, that's crazy.

[368] And then he got the balls to tell Bill Burr, this isn't your lane.

[369] It's not your lane either, Bill.

[370] You don't know fucking anything.

[371] Bro, Bill chewed him up.

[372] That was wild.

[373] You can't go tat -to -tat like that with Bill because he does that to himself all day.

[374] All day.

[375] He's, like, battling out in his own mind having argued.

[376] Well, look at you, fucking, Bill.

[377] Look at you.

[378] Your fucking stupid sneakers on.

[379] You're 55 years old.

[380] Dressing like a teenager.

[381] What the fuck are you doing?

[382] What'd you ever do?

[383] Why some people listen to you?

[384] You're fucking pasty retod.

[385] You're not a general.

[386] You never did anything.

[387] Exactly.

[388] Exactly.

[389] But that's the, you know, the biggest shocker to me was, is like the bubble that people live in, right?

[390] And it's like, don't you, it's just like with the debate.

[391] Like, do you think that the lies that the media has been telling from, I've been saying Joe Biden's been a demented walking death rattle since 2019.

[392] And it's because it's been obvious that he's suffering from something.

[393] Well, there's a decline, right?

[394] If you just saw him in 2019, it wouldn't be as obvious.

[395] But if you saw him from like when he was running for president in 1988, which I did, I took, did ever tell you about Joe Biden night that we used to have at Stitches?

[396] No. Stitches Comedy Club.

[397] In 1988, we had Joe Biden night.

[398] And what is that?

[399] That would mean I would go on stage and do your act.

[400] And you would go on stage and do my act.

[401] Because he was a plagiarist.

[402] Exactly.

[403] So we would call it Joe Biden night and all the comics would go up and do each other's acts.

[404] That sounds like fun.

[405] It was fun.

[406] It was so fun.

[407] Because just like some guys, you know, you watch a guy like Jimmy Tingle or, you know, back in those days, Steve Sweeney.

[408] Oh, yeah.

[409] You get to, you could go up and do their act.

[410] Fancy, Fancy, Fancy, Fancy.

[411] Yeah.

[412] And the guys you work with all the time where you got to see their set all the time, you go up and do their act.

[413] And we had a great time.

[414] But it was an open mockery that he was a known plagiarist.

[415] In 88.

[416] In 88.

[417] I know that's why this whole rehabilitation.

[418] It's all because of Trump derangement syndrome, though they have to pretend like Joe Biden, some kind of guy with integrity and dignity instead of, you know, the horrible criminal, anti -worker guy that he's been his whole life.

[419] He's been anti -student, anti -worker, and he crossed a goddamn railroad strike.

[420] And everybody just memory holds that, that that happened.

[421] Like, if Trump did that, they would, it would be on billboards forever.

[422] And again, it's...

[423] Joe, why do you think that this, because my whole life, the establishment loved Donald Trump, right?

[424] Because the only option is if you don't go with Biden, then you're not with the Democrats.

[425] And the Democrats view themselves as a team.

[426] They view themselves as a team as much as patriots think of America first.

[427] It's like that team is Democrats first.

[428] And that's the only representation they have right now.

[429] Like, apparently, I don't know if this is true.

[430] But someone was telling me about this, Jamie, about the live streaming of, was it you?

[431] Or was it someone else?

[432] Of Rob Reiner and all these people.

[433] Oh, they were crap.

[434] Earlier, too, like, I'll find the story.

[435] They were all live streaming the debate and freaking out.

[436] Barbara Streisand's crying.

[437] These people are deranged.

[438] These people are no different than the Manson family in that they are in a cult.

[439] Yeah.

[440] They're locked into this ideology.

[441] It's not as bad as a Manson family, but it's clearly a cult.

[442] It's an ideological cult where you're not willing to go against any of the doctrines of the cult.

[443] And you're not allowed to.

[444] You're not allowed to have, you have to practice group think, and that's that.

[445] Yeah, and Bill Maher's a heretic, even though he's like, he's very much a liberal.

[446] He's a heretic because he says.

[447] Because every once in a while he'll tell the truth.

[448] A lot of times.

[449] He's just, he's not as informed as I'd like him to be about some of the stuff, like MK Ultra, the W. Or Ukraine.

[450] Well, I don't know what he knows about Ukraine, but he hates Donald Trump.

[451] But I think I couldn't figure it out on the pocket.

[452] He wouldn't even, like, have a rational discussion as to why he hates him.

[453] He's crazy.

[454] Yeah.

[455] But the thing he, I found out that he was sued by Donald Trump.

[456] Yes.

[457] So that's probably it.

[458] Because when he said that Donald Trump, he was an orangutan.

[459] And so he sued him.

[460] Hollywood debate watch party with Robbara, Jake Fonda ended in shouts and tears.

[461] That should have been, fuck keeping up with the Kardashians.

[462] That should be the fucking reality show.

[463] And that's what you get.

[464] And I say good for you.

[465] That's what you get for fucking lying.

[466] They've all lied.

[467] You know, I think the media took just so big a hit as Joe Biden did that night.

[468] Because now, I mean, just a few weeks ago, there's that Joe Scarborough, that mental case on Morning Joe on MSNBC.

[469] And he was saying, let me tell you something.

[470] And if you don't believe it, F you