The Daily XX
[0] From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro.
[1] This is the Daily.
[2] Today.
[3] Despite repeated warnings over the past two decades, federal law enforcement officials have ignored the threat of violence from right -wing extremists.
[4] Now, they have no idea how to stop it.
[5] It's Thursday, December 13th.
[6] It's mid -August 2017, and there's a police lieutenant named Dan Stout.
[7] Janet Reitman is a contrarian.
[8] Tributing writer for the Times magazine.
[9] Who is sitting in his living room in Gainesville, Florida, watching TV.
[10] I was doing chores around the home and had the news channels on and flipping around.
[11] Good afternoon.
[12] We're coming on the air now with breaking news from Charlottesville, Virginia.
[13] Suddenly, you know, everybody started covering the protest in Charlottesville, and I just sat down and started watching the event.
[14] He's watching people that are carrying long guns, guys with a flamethrower, guys with flagpole spears.
[15] seeing the violent protest and just sheer mayhem.
[16] And he's...
[17] And I was just like probably everyone else just shocked.
[18] Shocked.
[19] And he was also just really perplexed.
[20] As a law enforcement officer, I was wondering, why were the officers, why weren't they engaging?
[21] Why was this level of violence being allowed to continue unchecked?
[22] As he is watching all of them, this play out.
[23] He hears on TV that...
[24] The part that really just about pulled the rug out from underneath my feet is I said, okay, and where is Richard Spencer going to go to see next?
[25] Richard Spencer, who is one of the key organizers of the event.
[26] Richard Spencer will speak at the University of Florida.
[27] He's speaking at the University of Florida in Gainesville.
[28] His...
[29] He'll be going to Gainesville, Florida.
[30] He's coming to his town next.
[31] We'll take a stand anywhere and everywhere.
[32] So you're going to have to get used to And at that point, Dan goes, oh, my God.
[33] Oh, my God.
[34] This is coming to my town.
[35] And he just knows that...
[36] The only thing I could think of was, we're not ready for this.
[37] You know what?
[38] We are not prepared.
[39] But he also goes, you know what?
[40] Who's ever problem this is going to be?
[41] I feel kind of sorry for them.
[42] And on Monday morning, he shows up for work.
[43] And his belief chief says, you know, what, Dan?
[44] Hey, Dan, you're going to be our mobile field force guy.
[45] Basically...
[46] You're in charge.
[47] Riot control.
[48] So as the guy in charge of preparing for this Richard Spencer speech in Gainesville, what's the first thing that he does?
[49] So...
[50] The first thing we started trying to do is what is the active intelligence that is out there?
[51] He goes through, obviously, whatever files his own department may have, which isn't much.
[52] Who were these people that were just in Charlottesville?
[53] Is there anybody that can tell me more about it?
[54] He then goes to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
[55] He reaches out to the FBI.
[56] There was not a whole lot of good, clarified, active intelligence that anyone from the state level or the federal level could offer us.
[57] And then he studies videos from Charlottesville, particularly those people who are being very violent.
[58] And he goes back to the state authorities and says, you know, does anybody have any clue about any of these people?
[59] We were getting nothing.
[60] Nothing.
[61] And it was just kind of shocking that there was nothing there.
[62] And so he's basically reached out to every authority above him on the state and federal level and gotten nothing.
[63] This should have been something that I believe we should have had some information on.
[64] And it was just kind of baffling to me that there was this void.
[65] There's like a Bermuda, triangle of intelligence.
[66] So, Janet, why did this happen?
[67] Why is there almost no intelligence on the alt -right?
[68] So interestingly enough, there used to be a lot of scrutiny of the far right back in the 1990s.
[69] And the hivot point was...
[70] It was the deadliest terror attack aimed right at the heart of America.
[71] A car bomb today, all but demolished the U .S. government building in downtown Oklahoma City...
[72] The 1995 of Oklahoma City bombing.
[73] 50 children were in a daycare center on the second floor.
[74] I dove under my desk, and then the glass hole came in.
[75] Spoken debris and fire on the ground.
[76] This is just devastating.
[77] One suspect, according to our sources, is in custody now.
[78] Which was committed by a guy named Timothy McVeigh.
[79] The pre -cut John Doe number one in the FBI sketch.
[80] The former soldier who had cycled actually through a number of far -right ideologies.
[81] Right -wing, white supremacist groups.
[82] To ultimately come up with a plane.
[83] with a couple of others to bomb the Moorah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, which killed 168 people, including a number of children.
[84] If this cowardly bomb was designed to send a message that no one, no place is safe, it sadly succeeded.
[85] And so after Oklahoma City, the FBI and the DOJ, they sent FBI agents into the field to infiltrate various militia groups.
[86] they arrested people, and they kind of succeeded in driving the far right to some degree underground.
[87] And then 9 -11 happens.
[88] And then what happens after that is Robert Mueller, who is then FBI director and other senior national security officials across the entire government.
[89] They direct all of their agents to focus their energies on this new mission, which is countering Islamic extremism abroad and in the United States.
[90] And people aren't talking about Timothy McVeigh anymore.
[91] No. The entire national security apparatus is focused on preventing another September 11.
[92] But there's one guy who's been studying white supremacist movements inside the Department of Homeland Security.
[93] His name is Daryl Johnson.
[94] So I was hired in 2005 to come over and head up a team of analysts that looked at domestic non -Islamic extremism.
[95] And what do we need to know about Daryl Johnson?
[96] So Daryl Johnson is actually a pretty straight arrow.
[97] He's an Eagle Scout.
[98] He was raised a Mormon.
[99] He's a registered Republican.
[100] And he comes into DHS, focused on domestic terrorism analysis.
[101] I was originally kind of a lone ranger at DHS for about a year.
[102] And he puts together a small team.
[103] We looked at the wide range of domestic extremist movements that we have here in the United States.
[104] These can span the far right of the political spectrum or the far left of the political spectrum.
[105] And that team starts looking at left -wing organizations that the government has designated as domestic extremist groups.
[106] Like what?
[107] Specifically, radical environmentalists, animal rights organizations that have been designated as, actually the government's number one domestic terrorism threat in 2005.
[108] So by 2007, Bush administration is almost over, and Daryl gets a call one day from a friend of his on the Capitol Police, and they're the people that protect members of Congress.
[109] And they call Daryl, and they tell him, we have this first -term black Democrat senator who is about to announce that he is running for president.
[110] And that asked us to monitor internet websites for extremist chatter involving any threats to then -Senator Barack Obama.
[111] So Johnson has never heard of Obama, and he's also heard nothing because white supremacist groups have been fairly quiet during this period of time.
[112] So he goes to his little team and says, let's look around and see what's out there.
[113] Let's see if there are any threats, if there's any kind of chatter on these message boards.
[114] Right.
[115] And what he finds...
[116] Good evening stormfronters and fellow white people throughout the world.
[117] We did see an increase in threats by white supremacists.
[118] This isn't the country of our forefathers.
[119] There's this vibrant...
[120] Far -right movement...