#2125 - Kurt Metzger

[0] Joe Rogan podcast checking out.

[1] The Joe Rogan experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night all day.

[3] What's going on, buddy?

[4] Good to see you.

[5] It's fun to see you last night, too.

[6] Wait, are we on yet?

[7] Yes.

[8] Oh, that's great that we opened up right on.

[9] Right on you puffing.

[10] Last night was fun.

[11] Oh, my God.

[12] How funny was a tell, dude.

[13] I was remembered today that he said that deliverance was his Barbie.

[14] Right.

[15] He said so many asides like that.

[16] There was so many, like, you know, Tony said something really funny.

[17] He said, you watch him, you die laughing.

[18] And then afterwards, you can't remember anything he said.

[19] No, that's right.

[20] And then I start to have recall.

[21] It's like I got abducted and then the memories come back.

[22] So when I woke up, I was laughing because I remembered he said about, he goes, I need to get a root canal, but I couldn't get it.

[23] I couldn't get a root canal because I was in Oklahoma, you know, every life is sacred.

[24] He was, you ever have a back alley, root canal?

[25] He was just, everything about him was just so silly and so casual.

[26] It was very, very, and when he pulls out the recorder and starts playing that little flute thing.

[27] Yeah, he learned to do that over the pandemic.

[28] He learned to play recorder.

[29] The fact that he uses a flip phone for real.

[30] I guess he has...

[31] You want some coffee?

[32] Yeah.

[33] I guess he has a iPhone that he uses for social media when he...

[34] I was going to send him shit, and I can't because he's...

[35] I guess he's taking the calls on the flip phone.

[36] Yeah.

[37] Yeah, he prefers to be out...

[38] Does he work from Assad?

[39] I think he prefers to be with the flip phone.

[40] But I think he's right.

[41] I think he's right.

[42] I think if you have a cell phone that's connected to the internet, a smartphone, but you don't use it that often...

[43] Every now and then you check it.

[44] That's probably the way to go.

[45] You know, of course he's right.

[46] Yeah.

[47] Everybody has North Korea in their pocket at all times.

[48] Yeah, you really do.

[49] Our government, their government, everybody's government.

[50] You better hope it's multiple governments, so there's at least some competition for your data.

[51] And it's not just one monopoly has all your data.

[52] Right.

[53] How much have you paid attention to the TikTok thing where they're trying to do this ban on TikTok?

[54] Too much because we covered it and it's because, well, here's what it's besides controlling and being able to take shit down whatever they want and doing.

[55] Which is a real problem.

[56] Yeah, we are China, by the way.

[57] I don't know if people think we're not China, but we are China.

[58] But now the real push was coming because of Israel, not because of, you know, all the Hamas videos or whatever, but Israelis post shit.

[59] TikTok censors people.

[60] TikTok's not like a free speech something platform.

[61] Right.

[62] So the shit Israeli soldiers are posting themselves is getting out.

[63] And what happens is the kids are on TikTok.

[64] And, you know, it hasn't been 1944 forever.

[65] It's been pretty woke here.

[66] So now that's clashing, seeing this shit that, you know, remember Osama bin Laden made a huge comeback?

[67] Like about, I don't know, how many months ago.

[68] Oh, right, right, right.

[69] People just discovered his letters.

[70] Oh, the letter to America.

[71] God, he makes sense.

[72] I think he's an industry plant.

[73] So what are these Israeli soldiers putting up on TikTok?

[74] Well, all the war crimes that they do.

[75] No. Look, I want to make this clear to everyone, I would never listen to an Arab, okay?

[76] So I want you to understand that.

[77] I would never believe a Muslim about nothing.

[78] You don't have to ever do that.

[79] Look at not America what they tell you.

[80] Israeli news, Israeli politicians, their ambassadors when they come here and talk, listen to what they say.

[81] Because that's what I unfortunately did, and it was quite disturbing.

[82] And what's even more disturbing is when I tell my friends here in America, they go, yeah, no, it gets war.

[83] Nagasaki Hiroshima, right?

[84] You've heard the old Nagasaki Hiroshima?

[85] Yeah.

[86] The old kid rock combo.

[87] Yeah, the old kid rock.

[88] Dresden, okay, this is like how naive I am.

[89] Jimmy was putting up, because I could see the stories ready, loading up for the, whatever, the next segment.

[90] I see Israeli ambassador in the UK Dresden.

[91] So what I think it's going to be is she's going, how dare you compare what we're doing to Dresden?

[92] We're defending ourselves.

[93] Okay, that's what I think, you know, what a normal human would do is go, I would never want to say Dresden is okay.

[94] You never read Slaughterhouse, Kurt Vonnegut?

[95] We'd read the book in school because he was at Dresden, Kurt Vonnegut.

[96] And it was a deliberate terror attack that we did with.

[97] This is just established history.

[98] It's a crime, but, you know, we're fighting the Nazis, et cetera.

[99] And we won.

[100] So, okay, that's how I thought we looked at it.

[101] Like it was a terrible crime.

[102] But she goes, yeah, you know Dresden, we got to do Dresden.

[103] Explain Dresden what took place at Dresden for people that might not know.

[104] I don't remember what city it was.

[105] We firebombed them.

[106] Firebombed the entire city.

[107] Yeah, indiscriminately killed everybody.

[108] No, no, not indiscriminately.

[109] On purpose, targeted civilians to break their spirit.

[110] But keep in mind, Dresden, as much of a, it's a crime.

[111] But that was like the wars going on and on.

[112] So then they started doing shit like Dresden.

[113] Evil shit.

[114] We didn't do Hiroshima week two of the war.

[115] Right, right.

[116] Why was Dresden so heavily bombed?

[117] This is all known.

[118] The punishing three -day Allied bombing attack intended to force a German surrender, leveled the city, and left tens of thousands dead.

[119] And probably more than that, by the way.

[120] Look, I thought everybody knew was a war crime.

[121] And actually, everybody did know up until, like, you know, people thought natural immunity was a thing until a couple years ago.

[122] Yeah.

[123] That's, this is one of those.

[124] So I'm disturbed by that.

[125] So she was essentially saying we have to commit a war crime.

[126] Right.

[127] Or we're doing a war crime.

[128] Because in her brain, it's 1944 all day.

[129] Noam from the seller pointed out this mindset.

[130] And it's very insightful because not 1948 when you got Israel established.

[131] It's 44 right after this shit happened and you're real mad.

[132] They live in 1940, but we lived in wokey times.

[133] So the clash between the cultures, every time I hear an Israeli official or military persons or fucking BB speak, it sounds like someone's embarrassing immigrant parent that doesn't know not to say gay slurs here in America.

[134] Every time.

[135] So, again, I do not support Hamas or any Arab or Muslim.

[136] I hope I make it clear I'm one of the good people.

[137] And like the good people, I yearn for us to go back and fight them.

[138] You remember back when that was the enemy when we knew what was what, before we went to all this cuckoo caca?

[139] I hope we go back to those days.

[140] In fact, I was liberal.

[141] I'd also hope that Obama times.

[142] That was so great.

[143] Yeah.

[144] The times of a less confusing enemy.

[145] Yeah.

[146] Yeah.

[147] Yeah, it was more clearly established what was going on.

[148] This whole...

[149] Dave Smith knows shit, by the way, when you have...

[150] He probably had him recently, right?

[151] Yeah.

[152] No, Dave's the best out.

[153] Dave knows...

[154] I'm very proud of Dave consistently because he really knows his shit.

[155] Like...

[156] He doesn't talk about things unless he knows his things and he goes very, very deep into subjects.

[157] He doesn't talk out of his ass at all.

[158] No, not at all, dude.

[159] No. He goes very, very deep into subjects.

[160] It really gets an understanding of them and then fucking debates people.

[161] and really knows what he's talking about.

[162] He actually contributes to these conversations in a very, very meaningful way.

[163] I know him a long time, but I'm very impressed with him right now.

[164] He's very impressive.

[165] He's very impressive.

[166] And he's hilarious, too.

[167] It's like he's both things.

[168] Hilarious comic and a very impressive person.

[169] You see him on Pierce Morgan?

[170] Yeah.

[171] Yeah, I did see that.

[172] So my buddy Gary from an erotic went on Pierce Morgan with, I can't remember the other guy, the critical drinker.

[173] And then these two chicks from, one was English.

[174] And it was on Pierce Morgan.

[175] Pierce Morgan is getting, like, the YouTube talent pool of whatever to come on and debate these stops.

[176] Like, he discovered all this.

[177] It's like, are the Oscars over?

[178] Or are the Oscars irrelevant?

[179] And I cannot wait to ask Gary about it when I, because the question, he, like...

[180] How come Barbie didn't win an Oscar was actually, like, a topic?

[181] And, like, just imagine, like, an international news show to figure out why Barbie...

[182] It's incredible.

[183] Imagine being upset.

[184] How come Oppenheimer got it?

[185] Yeah.

[186] Listen, even if it was like really good, it's a Barbie movie.

[187] You know, Batman Dark Knight, Heath Ledger, he's the reason that one, just his performance.

[188] Right.

[189] Maybe you can say that for Barbie.

[190] That's a pretty fucking good movie.

[191] That's a different kind of movie, though.

[192] That's a dystopian movie about, you know, crime -ridden city.

[193] Barbie?

[194] Barbie's fun.

[195] Oh, I thought you were talking about Barbie was crime -ridden city.

[196] Oh, is it good?

[197] But how can you compare the two movies?

[198] I mean, Oppenheimer is a movie that people will be watching decades from now.

[199] I'll tell you how.

[200] You check the algorithms and you see what topics are trending and you put them together like you're a fucking AI and you make a TV program out of that horseshit.

[201] And you discuss it as if it's a thing.

[202] Can you imagine you must be doing so well in life if that's one of your issues about like who got, who got sub at the Oscars at all?

[203] I looked at.

[204] And how did Barbie not get it?

[205] Yeah.

[206] If you were just like, if you're just passionate about the Oscars, I think you're an idiot.

[207] Right.

[208] But if Barbie got it?

[209] I didn't even know it was on until I saw John Cena naked on the internet.

[210] I didn't even know it wasn't a movie called Barbenheimer.

[211] I didn't know they matched those together to save the theater industry that got killed after COVID and also all the movies suck it.

[212] The theater industry did get killed, though.

[213] Everybody knows they can stream things at home now, so they just start giving it to you at home, and then they don't have to pay as much.

[214] Yeah, a lot of great reasons to stay home forever, God.

[215] I don't know if you know some piling up.

[216] Oh, boy.

[217] Don't even go out no more, man. Boy, the COVID really did in the streaming thing.

[218] It did in all the things.

[219] Well, it really did in rather the theater thing because streaming movies at home is so much.

[220] If you've got a nice TV, and boy, you can get a big -ass TV cheap now.

[221] Like, what's a 65 -inch Samsung TV cost right now?

[222] I remember when they first came out with plasma screens.

[223] It's cheaper than insulin, I'll tell you that.

[224] It was like a 24 or 28 inch plastic screen and it was like 20 ,000 dollars.

[225] I was like, $20 ,000 for a TV, that's crazy.

[226] Now a TV like that is free.

[227] They just give it.

[228] You don't even want it.

[229] Technically as low as $400.

[230] What?

[231] But that, I mean, that's the...

[232] Oh my God, that's insane.

[233] Whatever.

[234] Sure, that's I'm saying.

[235] It's still 4K?

[236] Yeah.

[237] Hey, you know what?

[238] Let me see what that looks like.

[239] For $397 from Walmart.

[240] It's not like a TV.

[241] Best Buy, it's $399.

[242] You sound like you're doing an ad for them.

[243] Come down.

[244] That's insane.

[245] 65 inches 4K.

[246] Look how thin it is, $400.

[247] Those fucking things were so expensive at one point in time.

[248] So now watching movies at home is awesome.

[249] Do you buy any, like I always thought, and I'm not smart with money in any way, but like top of the line technology such as that like $20 ,000 when it first comes out, never in my life.

[250] Even if I would have the disposable income for a $20 ,000 applies with you, I go, of course another thing's coming out tomorrow and this was going to, that's how it's always been for this stuff.

[251] But it wasn't when those $20 ,000 TVs came out.

[252] It was a long time before anything was better than them.

[253] Well, it is when they first got the technology from Roswell, so it's going to be more.

[254] This is, I think we're talking about, like, the 90s.

[255] So, like, see if you can find an ad for a 28 -inch plasma T because they were plasma.

[256] And let's say, let's just say, like, 96.

[257] 1997.

[258] I was selling, I was working at The Wiz selling, uh, cell phones and, uh, PCs.

[259] Like pre -built, like a Dell, like, not Dell, uh, Sony had a, had a Pentium's.

[260] Mm -hmm.

[261] And very little markup on it.

[262] It was not the good department.

[263] I used to make my own.

[264] Well, that's what a smarter person would do.

[265] An idiot would come to our store and buy it there.

[266] Well, I bought that, too.

[267] I did.

[268] I bought, like, they were always getting better.

[269] But you could do a lot with your, you could buy motherboards and you learn how to put, like, the little...

[270] The jumpers in place with tweezers.

[271] You know, it's interesting, the tweezers, the jumpers were like master and slave.

[272] Oh, my God.

[273] Yeah.

[274] And I don't know what they call them now.

[275] Can you edit this out, Jim?

[276] Okay, so what year is this?

[277] It says 97 is the first Fujitsu plasma screen.

[278] It was like 42 inches.

[279] Fujitsu.

[280] Oh, well, I think, is that the first ones?

[281] God, I feel like it was more money than that.

[282] I feel it was still $9 ,000 as opposed to $400.

[283] Like that $400 one is infinitely better than this fucking clunky hunk of shit with low resolution.

[284] No, that's what I'm talking about.

[285] That's why buying it at the very beginning.

[286] I mean, it's like dumber than buying a fucking boat.

[287] In 2003, Plasma TV was $10 ,000.

[288] Oh, that was 70 inches.

[289] That's pretty big.

[290] It's also why, yeah, like the Black Friday line started getting so crazy because everyone's looking for good TV deals and whatnot.

[291] Yeah.

[292] Mm, right, right, right.

[293] I killed three men from my TV.

[294] Is that what people tried to get when they got aggressive?

[295] Those are the first big things you can.

[296] Black Friday sales are some of the darkest moments in humanity.

[297] You see those people fighting over, like, boxes of shit.

[298] Like, what the fuck?

[299] I think I'm looking at the greatest country on Earth, frankly, Joe.

[300] Yeah.

[301] That's what I think I'm looking at on Black Friday.

[302] Complication.

[303] On African -American Friday.

[304] Excuse me, Joe.

[305] When you say these guys are getting in trouble on TikTok, like, I'm not on TikTok.

[306] Of course not.

[307] You're not a pedophile?

[308] So what specifically are they putting up on TikTok that's getting in trouble?

[309] You know, showing off, like blowing shit up into it.

[310] I don't look at it.

[311] I don't want to go on TikTok for any reason.

[312] I don't care about anything on it.

[313] But we have the, on Jimmy Show, Jimmy Show, we show clips, you know, like the clip of Wolf Blitzer, you know, like the clip of Wolf Blitzer, where he has the, I don't know what rank the guy is.

[314] This is in the early part of the war.

[315] And the guy's English is not, usually have pretty good English, but his isn't great, right?

[316] And Wolf, who used to work for A -PAC, okay?

[317] Wolf's not a pro on the side of everything, dude, right?

[318] And he goes, so they just blew up some refugee camp and to get this one guy, to get this one Hamas.

[319] And Wolf's like, wait, you drop, blew up.

[320] There's 400 and 500 people at that camp.

[321] Hey, that's one.

[322] And like Wolf's face.

[323] He's just like, oh, wait, I forgot the best part.

[324] I don't want to say best part, but on Wolf's face.

[325] And you could see Wolf is like, what in the fuck?

[326] This is what I'm talking about?

[327] And he goes, well, did you get the guy?

[328] He goes, oh, we can't confirm.

[329] Well, if they say they can't confirm, they probably didn't get him.

[330] Of course.

[331] And Wolf, so Wolf knows that.

[332] So Wolf, he's like, we have to go to a break.

[333] That sticks with me. Oh, I need to watch that.

[334] I need to watch that.

[335] Yeah.

[336] I was trying to find it.

[337] I have the clip from Jim.

[338] So is this one of those ones that's going to get us in trouble?

[339] Probably, right?

[340] No idea.

[341] Well, let's play it just for us.

[342] I don't, I have to even find it.

[343] Oh, yeah.

[344] This is it.

[345] This is it.

[346] This is it.

[347] Okay.

[348] Let me hear it.

[349] Back now to our breaking news here in the Middle East, a massive explosion at the largest refugee camp in Gaza.

[350] Joining us now is Lieutenant Colonel Richard Hecht.

[351] He's the international spokesperson for the Israel Defense Forces.

[352] Thanks so much for joining us.

[353] I want to ask you first about this massive blast that we all just saw, we saw the video, at the Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza.

[354] Is there anything more you can first of all tell us about how this explosion happened?

[355] All right, well, thanks for having me. So we'll be coming out in the next hopefully hour with more data, but I can update you now that the...

[356] Hold on, pause.

[357] This is a Scottish Israeli dude?

[358] Like, what is this?

[359] Possibly.

[360] That accent's crazy.

[361] Do you know Australian -Israeli?

[362] I know, but the accent with the flag, I'm like, my brain is going, what's going on here?

[363] I thought he had a cleft palate for a minute.

[364] We've got bombs there.

[365] Okay, go ahead.

[366] Hamas commander in that area.

[367] Sadly, he was hiding again, as they do, behind the, within civilians.

[368] And that's all I can see at this point.

[369] We're looking into it and we'll be coming out with more data as we learn what happened there.

[370] Oh, it is Scottish.

[371] So can you confirm it was an Israeli attack that destroyed a big chunk of that Jabalya refugee camp?

[372] Yes, I can.

[373] we went we were focused again on our target here's where wolf gets upset yeah senior commander wolf and we'll be updating you with more data as the award moves ahead But even if that Hamas commander was there amidst all those Palestinian refugees who are in that Jabalya refugee camp, Israel still went ahead and dropped a bomb there, attempting to kill this Hamas commander, knowing that a lot of innocent civilians, men, women, and children, presumably would be killed.

[374] Is that what I'm hearing?

[375] That's not what you're hearing, Wolf.

[376] We, again, we're focused on this commander, again, who you'll get more data who this man was.

[377] It killed many, many Israelis.

[378] We're doing everything we can.

[379] It's a very complicated battle space.

[380] There could be infrastructure there.

[381] There could be tunnels there.

[382] We're still looking into it and we'll give you more data as there were moves ahead.

[383] But you know that there are a lot of refugees, a lot of innocent civilians, men, women, and children in that refugee camp as well, right?

[384] This is the tragedy of War Wolf.

[385] I mean, we, as you know, we've been seeing for days move south.

[386] Civilians are not involved with Khamas, please move south.

[387] Just trying to get a little bit more information.

[388] You knew there were civilians there, you knew there were refugees, all sorts of refugees, but you decided to still drop a bomb on that refugee camp attempting to kill the Samas commander.

[389] By the way, was he killed?

[390] I can't confirm yet.

[391] We know that he was killed.

[392] He said he was killed.

[393] About the civilians there, we're doing everything we can to minimize.

[394] I'll tell it.

[395] I'll say it again.

[396] Sadly, they are hiding themselves within civilian population.

[397] Okay.

[398] Again, we are doing this.

[399] It's okay to shoot through all the people.

[400] It's sad that those people, that's normal and that's just war.

[401] Putin, by the way, is the most evil man in the world.

[402] For nothing as fucked up as that.

[403] No. So look, hey, they do have to do self -defense.

[404] Isn't it crazy though when you see the difference between people looking at things objectively versus people that look at things tribally?

[405] Yeah.

[406] And if you're on the right side, you support Ukraine against Russia.

[407] Russia is the invader and Russia's this horrible country.

[408] Right.

[409] And they won that thing.

[410] Right.

[411] Did the like just a disparity in death count?

[412] I don't want to hear about Uyghurs ever again.

[413] Don't tell me about the fucking Uighurs.

[414] Because they got a lot better than Gaza.

[415] The Uighurs are living like kings compared to that shit.

[416] So all I'm saying, see, objectively.

[417] They got a nice job and a cot.

[418] The Uighurs, they got a nice job at the factory and a cot.

[419] They're getting work experience.

[420] They're learning a trade.

[421] The thing about the Uyghurs is we don't even really know what happens to them.

[422] We don't know what they're doing to them, right?

[423] Because they deny that they put them in camps.

[424] It's a lot like Guantanamo.

[425] No, well, no. It's like Guantanamo.

[426] When I was there, I asked somebody about weak because I, you know, most people, by the way, don't even...

[427] If we bring it up, they go, oh, don't say that word.

[428] When you say when I was there, you went to Guantanamo Bay or you went to China?

[429] No, I went to China.

[430] Jesus Christ, Kurt.

[431] Kurt.

[432] Kurt's part of the deep state.

[433] Kurtz's out there in Guantanamo.

[434] This article from February about.

[435] What Israel Soldier videos revealed cheering, destruction, and mocking Gaza.

[436] There you go.

[437] Bad optics.