#1856 - Nate Bargatze

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[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] Hello, Nate.

[4] Joe.

[5] Good to see you, my friends.

[6] It was fun last night.

[7] It was fun doing a gig.

[8] Yeah.

[9] Yeah, that worked out.

[10] Great.

[11] I came here, like, you know, to go do a spot.

[12] I was in two very different environments of just a corporate gig and then the Vulcan.

[13] It was, but it was awesome.

[14] It was awesome to get to see your.

[15] Uh, you're our hour.

[16] It's tight, my friend.

[17] Thank you.

[18] It really was.

[19] It was very fun.

[20] Thank you.

[21] Which was, uh, I'm a big fan of fun.

[22] Me too.

[23] Yeah, yeah.

[24] I'm like, stuff's not getting this fun anymore.

[25] And it was fun.

[26] It's like you can see when everybody's watching something and it's like, they're just having a good time.

[27] Like they're, it's just a fun.

[28] Yeah.

[29] Like, you know, a comedy is.

[30] Stand up is, you're like, enjoy it.

[31] Let's have fun.

[32] I think there's still people doing that.

[33] Oh, yeah.

[34] of people have kind of lost their way it's a yeah and i think you're going to see a separation though i think it will be it's uh people that are going to you know not want to go on they don't want to go on the road anymore and they like it's a it's a lot to go do stand up and so i think you're going to see the pandemic almost like split it to be like all right who like did whatever they had to do to do shows where they did them outside they you know are tried to just try to stay funny right during the pandemic versus versus just collapsing on themselves and not being funny and it's it's a you know it's a muscle have you noticed how many people have gotten like very very political on twitter like during the pandemic yeah it became like especially comedians and this i'm not trying to be mean but who are not that good and we're not that successful you know they were kind of like kind of hanging on and now you go to their fucking Twitter feed and it's just this political extravaganza.

[35] Yeah.

[36] It's, I mean, and they go deep.

[37] They're like people who know like third string quarterbacks that play for colleges.

[38] You know, that's how they handle politics.

[39] You know, they'll do, they'll talk about like obscure senators from North Dakota.

[40] You're like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[41] We shouldn't know who they are.

[42] Yeah, yeah.

[43] It's, but it's, they're, they're obsessed with it in this very weird way.

[44] It's like they, it's, I think they're distracting themselves in the fact that their career is kind of gone.

[45] And so now they're just mostly concentrating on politics.

[46] I think it's a, uh, and two for some, I, I always look at it as like a cash graph.

[47] Like sometimes it's like, it's a quick like, all right, you get some, you think some steam on this kind of thing, maybe some tweets or some, And whatever, you feel like you're having a lot of reaction in the Twitter world.

[48] And so you think, like, all right, this is, I'll do this as a career.

[49] Like, you're trying to pick your lane.

[50] Right.

[51] And then they go down that lane, and that lane just can't sustain.

[52] It's like when you go watch a stand -up comment, you still, you have to have an act.

[53] People will go watch someone for once.

[54] But if they do not have an act, like, no one's going to come back.

[55] Right.

[56] An act is what it's about.

[57] You go to Vegas.

[58] You still go to Vegas.

[59] David Copperfield has to do an act.

[60] Right.

[61] That's why they've been doing, that's why Caratops been in Vegas for 30 years or whatever he's been there.

[62] Because there's an act.

[63] And you're like, I bought this and I'm watching this for one hour and it was entertaining and I leave and I have a good time.

[64] You have to create an act.

[65] It can't be this like trick that's kind of like, I trick you to get in the door.

[66] But then you can go watch it.

[67] I see it with like, There's some, you know, you see people on Instagram, and I don't know them, like, someone were, like, these rappers, and they have, like, 5 million followers or something, and you're like, is this guy, or is he, like, super famous or something?

[68] And then, but you're like, I don't know if he is.

[69] Like, I don't, I think it's, like, he's famous on Instagram.

[70] Like, he's famous for people watching that, but you're like, I don't know if this guy's selling tickets, or, and I don't know, it's, I'm sure it's more than just the, I've just seen a couple of the rappers.

[71] I started following one because I was like I was like curious to be like well what's this dude's life like you know you just want to watch him he's doing some you know they're doing rock venues and they're doing all this and there are millions of followers and they have all the stuff the watches all the and you're like I'm just like is this guy is it you know they sell is that guy going to sell out Madison Square Garden and I don't know if he I don't know if it is I mean maybe maybe it is maybe I'm completely wrong but it's It's the fascinating, you get this audience that's on board with you with social media, but like they're not going to translate, they're not going to go with you for your career.

[72] People want to grow with their people, I think.

[73] If you like someone, you're like, I'd like to grow, like, you see them have a family, and then they have this, and they kind of just keep talking about their evolution of life.

[74] And that's what you enjoy watching.

[75] Yeah, and that's like the whole process when you put out a special of, developing new material and then making sure that it's up to snuff and then recording again and this like how many years what is your your your process in terms of like how much time do you do in between specials uh this one i taped the last one in uh 20 20 because it came out in early 21 and i'm taping the next one in september in phoenix so roughly two years yeah it'd be it comes a special come out yeah because it all times out about the same yeah So two years.

[76] And I think that's good.

[77] And I don't think you should, that's it a lot.

[78] Yeah, that's a lot.

[79] And doing it more than that, I think ,'s too much.

[80] And then, you know.

[81] I did three, two years in a row.

[82] I did 2014, 16, and 18.

[83] Yeah, I think that's the wood.

[84] And then I was going to do 20, but then the pandemic hit.

[85] And I really didn't do stand -up for quite a while.

[86] And then I realized that when I started doing stand -up again, having a little bit more time with the material, like really made it.

[87] it tighten up more.

[88] Like I feel like everything is way tighter now.

[89] Like this set, it's also working in Texas because we've been doing, you know, these regular sets at Vulcan, Vulcan Gas Company and Creek in the Cave.

[90] And so I'm headlining all the time.

[91] So I'm doing an hour.

[92] So instead of doing like 15 minute sets, I'm doing like all this material.

[93] So it's very tight.

[94] And I've just been doing it a lot over and over again.

[95] And then I've been touring on the weekend so I've been doing arenas and theaters and comedy clubs like all these different kinds of venues on purpose like different size venues and I feel like more times better I feel like this is like the tightest one I've ever had and it's got the most laughs of any special that I've ever had and I feel like four years which which is what it will be when this one comes out I've like that is even better it's even better than two you get to be with it a lot more Yeah.

[96] And you get to, like, have much more material, too, right?

[97] So I have, like, a whole extra hour.

[98] So I have this hour and then I have, you know, the B -side stuff that I can, like, build up and turn into, like, A -bits.

[99] Yeah.

[100] And so, like, once I abandon this special and put it out, I'll have stuff to work with.

[101] Yeah, I'm a big, I believe the road is, I think you write more on the road.

[102] Because when you have more time on stage, you can, you can, you.

[103] You're just not as like, you know, like doing sets and doing spots are like, that's how you get stuff tight.

[104] And that's what you need at the beginning is to learn how to be tight.

[105] But, you know, if you go do, when you go back to New York, you do 10 -minute spots and you're like, well, I feel like I got a murder.

[106] Like you can't, like, sit for a second.

[107] Right.

[108] And when you've got a long time, I can sit because I know the next thing's going to be work.

[109] Right.

[110] And then you can, so you can really, like, be like, let me just see if I can mess around with this a little bit here.

[111] Because there's not as much pressure as like, you know, you may. mess with one bit and then your bits just get longer yeah when you start doing i've noticed from going to clubs to theaters like when i first started headlining in clubs it was i mean doing 45 minutes was tough i would get tired i remember just talking that long like you're like i've never you're just like how do people even do you hit 35 minutes and you're like i don't even i'm out of everything i've done every closer i've ever come up with and so now you're just trying to get out of the set And then the longer you do it Then you start getting in theaters And I'm not a big I don't move around a lot Like all this But like you do You just like everything just expands Because there's more people There's more It's just a different It's a it's pretty wild It's a pretty different thing And it's fun to learn it It's fun to get to do it Some guys get stuck in that city mentality And they keep doing those 15 minute sets And those 15 minute sets Or 10 minutes sets Are great but if you want a headline it's not the same it's not like you just don't string 10 of those sets together like you really have to develop an actual hour if you're gonna do an hour you can't just take four 15 minutes sets it's sort of yeah you really want it to flow and the only way to get the sense of the right way to do it is to do that hour and I think that fucks guys when they they only do the city and then they try to go on the road and headline and you see them in their fucking hotel room in a panic with like stacks and It's like trying to piece all their piece their act together, you know.

[112] It's a show.

[113] It's, uh, I love, uh, making stuff like really go into the next thing.

[114] Like that's how you remember your act is you're like, well, the only thing that could come after this is this.

[115] Like if you're talking, you know, I'm talking about my kid, then I'll talk about my wife.

[116] Well, like, they go together.

[117] So you put them together and then you put all this stuff together.

[118] And that's the, that's the aspect of creating a show and that's where, like I, like, you tell like you see young comics or even young entertainers it's like that's what's like do an act dude like you got to create even in a five -minute thing at least have a system yeah that you're like I'm starting with this I'm gonna close with this and I'm gonna try to make them intertwee you know make it seem like I'm not going in between each thing unless you're one of those non -sequitur guys I've always felt like those guys have the hardest job like the Mitch headberg types or the Stephen Wright types those guys who just do here's another joke here's another like William Montgomery does that it's just like here's a joke here's another joke it's like who how do you remember all that that I don't know that's a lot I mean it's it's it's just because it's you know if you talk about yourself and it's personal you're like well at least it's your opinion it's your point of view so I think then it makes everything everything becomes funny because it's your point of view so if I'm watching you I'm buying into you so I want you to go to the grocery store and I'll see what Joe Rogan does at the grocery store and so like there's a lot more opportunity for that And then that would make me nervous with those guys.

[119] That's why it is amazing to be able to write these jokes, to be actual joke writers, which is, you know, this stand -up was.

[120] It's how stand -up started, just this joke writing.

[121] And to be able to do that and just crank out these jokes, it's unreal.

[122] I love the fact there's so many different styles, too.

[123] I really do love the fact that there are these, like, absurdist, non -secretor guys.

[124] And then there's other guys like you, you tell, like, stories.

[125] You tell, like, long stories.

[126] and people get sucked into your rhythm.

[127] It was very fun watching you last night going on after Tony too.

[128] So Tony's on stage last night for everybody who wasn't there and Jamie and some lady starts fucking screaming at him.

[129] She starts screaming in him some like super lefty, liberal lady calling him a sexist and Tony says, how am I a sexist?

[130] I'm literally the most feminine man you'll meet all night.

[131] And he starts going into all the different bits where he makes fun of himself.

[132] He's like, I already said about myself.

[133] He goes, I mock my own masculinity.

[134] And you're telling me I'm a sexist.

[135] It was very funny.

[136] And she was on hinge, though.

[137] Yeah, she left.

[138] So it was all this craziness.

[139] Well, he has a bit about the C word.

[140] So it was that bit that set her off.

[141] That was like, that's it!

[142] And she fucking blew a fuse.

[143] And then you went on afterwards, no curse words, like you just took control of the room and started telling your stories.

[144] And it was great, man. It was really fun to watch.

[145] It was really fun to watch the transition.

[146] And your fucking timing was so good, dude.

[147] Oh, thank you.

[148] It's really fun.

[149] I just love when I, you know, I haven't seen you in a while.

[150] And it's great to be able to watch, like, a comic just that, you know, you know, you.

[151] You're clearly, like, super tight.

[152] You've been on the road.

[153] It's real obvious.

[154] Like, everything is nice and polished.

[155] Yeah.

[156] It's really fun to watch you shift the gears of the room, too.

[157] That was a good, that's why, like, New York was great.

[158] Because it's like you learned how to do that.

[159] Why, you have to.

[160] You have to.

[161] Because you're following who knows what.

[162] Who knows what.

[163] And it's, why are you following people?

[164] Guys are going to murder?

[165] You're following Greer Barnes and Ben Bailey.

[166] And they, I remember them, like, they were Wilson events.

[167] They would murder.

[168] and then you'd have to go up behind them and then I was I had you know this rhythm and I talked slower and all this so I you had to learn very quickly how to like how do I get you to come to me right because if I I can't match energy that's a big one that I that's always the one that I don't ever I people always say like what advice would you give yourself like I'm not a big you're like I learned everything because of all the stuff that failed but it's if you just remind yourself like just do you yeah and just get into your rhythm you can't match what other people do you it makes you tighten your stuff up though it does make you put like you have to edit things well like when you're going on after killers and you have to establish that you know what you're doing like the audience has to get some confidence in you if you're following some the worst people to follow are they don't really have them anymore they're kind of rare now but music acts yeah you ever have a follow music act oh yeah so what i mean by music act i don't mean like musician folks for folks at home.

[169] I mean like a comedy music guy who sings comedy songs and they usually suck but they usually have something to do with like getting your dick sucked or shit in your pants.

[170] This sound amazing.

[171] You're like, that sounds unbelievable.

[172] Where's this guy playing?

[173] I want to hear about shit in your pants.

[174] But yeah, they would fucking kill and they had music.

[175] So they're like, I shit my pants!

[176] You know?

[177] And then you're on afterwards, so I took my daughter to the park the other day.

[178] Yeah, it's such a weird.

[179] And you have to, like, it has to be, the stuff that you say first has to somehow another establish who you are.

[180] Yeah.

[181] And you have to, like, get them.

[182] And how quick.

[183] You got to get them quick.

[184] Yeah.

[185] They have to be interested in you.

[186] You got to learn, the thing I learned in New York is like, you got to make them laugh as quick as you can.

[187] Yes.

[188] And so it's like, what can I do to get you in my rhythm and what's the, quickest laugh i can get to so you can kind of reset the tone because if you follow something an act like that or someone that murders or something you're going to it's going to it might take a couple jokes even if they're good jokes just to like reset the room and then be like all right yeah now i got you because you only have 10 minutes you're 50 minutes like so it's tough that was the store too that was a big thing about the store it's like you're you're going on after arena acts like you'll fall sebastian oh yeah it's like there's all these killers louis sike stops in like jesus Like, on any night, you're following just assassins.

[189] I remember doing, I was doing a Tonight Show, and I was going to go run it at Gotham in New York.

[190] And this was when Louis was hosting S &L.

[191] And so I was going to get a go up, like, first, and then Louis came in to run his S &L set that he was going to do on S &L, and I had to follow that.

[192] Which he was, like, ended up being fine, but it was, like, Lou, like, that set that he did was, like, unbelievable.

[193] Yeah.

[194] And he went on.

[195] and I mean just a murder like and then it's Louis CK and he's holds us and that's now I mean it's the it's everything yeah and then it's like there comes a neighbor gets to do it tonight show everybody's like whatever you know it's like fine and you're just up there trying to do you're dumb you know because you feel like you're like I'm trying to get into it yeah but I learned you would say so you have to learn stuff like I learned then like that you just I would walk up like obviously the show is peaked and like it's enough to get a laugh right to set you know to be like yeah yeah We get what we all just saw.

[196] Right.

[197] Let me just try to get back into it.

[198] And then just do your act.

[199] When I was living in L .A. in the 90s, I had to follow Richard Pryor five weeks in a row, five or six weeks in a row.

[200] And it was when Richard Pryor was dying.

[201] Oh.

[202] And so it might have been the 2000s by then.

[203] But either way, it was, he was very sick.

[204] And he was in a wheelchair.

[205] And so they would carry him to the stage.

[206] So it essentially like Marilyn Martinez, his husband and Chewy would, Chewy was the door guy.

[207] They would walk him all the way to the stage, like kind of like support his body weight all the way to the stage.

[208] And then get him to a seat.

[209] And his voice was so feeble that they had to crank the sound up really loud.

[210] Like, and he'd be like, I always love pussy.

[211] and he had like a drink with him but it was you know he was just trying to and then you got to go up after him and it's like a whole thing to get him back off stage so it's not like you get to go right up you're like it's going to be about 10 minutes before we get him down well not only that but at the store we would do it like we did at the Vulcan we tag team I would bring up the next guy he'd bring you up he didn't the piano man brought me out because they have to carry him out of there yeah so they would come back on stage and grab Richard Pryor And then the piano man would be like, who was Jeff Scott, rest in peace.

[212] And he would go, Richard Pryor, ladies and gentlemen.

[213] And now please welcome Joe Rogan.

[214] And I was just fucking.

[215] And I'm pretty sure it was in the 90s because I remember I was in my 20s.

[216] And I was just like, what am I doing following Richard Pratt?

[217] Yeah, that's why.

[218] Well, to be able to see that's pretty crazy.

[219] Yeah.

[220] That you crossed paths enough to get to see, I mean to see him.

[221] Even at that stage, it was a full circle for me because the first time I ever really saw stand -up was I was 15 years old.

[222] My parents took me to see live at the Sunsets trip.

[223] Oh, wow.

[224] I'll never forget.

[225] Yeah.

[226] I was in the movie theater watching these people flop around their seats laughing so hard.

[227] They couldn't even sit still.

[228] They were just falling them down.

[229] And I remember looking around the theater going, I can't believe.

[230] of how funny this is this is so funny and all he's doing is talking because I thought about like stripes which was this amazing funny but it wasn't this funny like this guy's so funny and he's just talking I'm like it's incredible just words and that had like a permanent effect on me I mean I didn't think back then oh I want to be a comedian because that was when I was doing martial arts and that's all I thought about but I couldn't imagine how for funny it was i was like this is incredible i've never seen anything like that because all the only comedy i'd ever seen other than that was like the tonight show yeah i'd see like you know richard jennie do a set on the tonight show i used to love watching like the comedians on the tonight show and like even get the improv he's to love that but i just couldn't believe how funny he was it was like blown away like i thought about it for months well being in that room and and seeing that where like said like people are just like losing it yeah that's pretty special i I mean, it's crazy, because it is crazy to think with stand -up.

[231] It's just talking.

[232] It's straight up just your words.

[233] Yeah.

[234] I always find it very interesting to even when you, like, when you get your act, you know when they're going to laugh, which is always kind of, because laughing is, it's hard to make someone laugh.

[235] And then sometimes you're like, you're like, I know about here.

[236] Yeah.

[237] They're going to laugh.

[238] When I say live on the sunset trip, I don't mean actually being on the sunset trip.

[239] Just that hour.

[240] The movie.

[241] Yeah.

[242] It was a movie that was in the movie.

[243] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[244] Yeah, so I was in a movie theater.

[245] Oh, that's even crazier.

[246] Well, it was crazy.

[247] But it was also, it's one of the best ways to see a comedy special, because it's like you're in the crowd.

[248] Yeah.

[249] It's like, you're hearing everybody else laugh, too.

[250] Like, there's a contagiousness to it, but no, I was in Boston.

[251] I wasn't in, on the Sunset's trip.

[252] That would be an interesting way to do specials.

[253] Well, that's how some people, like Gabriel Iglesias, Gabriel's, he released a special in the movies and then uh i think kevin hart did too yeah and but that's all recently most most people recently have not been releasing special it's almost like that would be a good way to do it right because you know because it's a crowd yeah uh you know they're usually they're not super long it's like it would be a yeah i think i would enjoy watching a special and a yeah it'd be the exact it'd be the best experience you could have yeah Yeah, maybe that's the next evolution of stand -up, like you sell tickets, like, or streaming, you know, like, that way where, you know, you'll go to a place and, you know, people will all watch it together.

[254] Because, like, watching a stand -up special at home is great, but it's not as good as, like, watching it with a lot of people around.

[255] No, no. Comedy is a weird thing, right?

[256] Like I can enjoy music by myself But going to see a comic With other people is way better than just going by yourself That's what you're selling in an event It's being out It's also there's a weird thing that happens When people get in a room together It happens with music too When you're sharing an experience And it makes it better because there's all these other people That are sharing it with you And comedy is like the best for that Because like when other people are laughing And, like, you smile, too.

[257] Like, it's like, this is fucking funny.

[258] Look at the fucking, oh, my God.

[259] Like, I'll never forget when we were doing a show once.

[260] And someone was on stage killing.

[261] And this lady, I was, I wasn't up yet.

[262] I was just sitting on the side of the road, the side of the stage, or the back of the stage, by the store, the back of the room.

[263] And this lady just looks at me, and she's like, oh, my God, it's just so funny.

[264] Just looking around for people to laugh with.

[265] Yeah.

[266] And I was like, look at it.

[267] Like, she's like, everybody's just.

[268] just joining in.

[269] Like, people are looking at each other at the other the table's like, ah!

[270] They're seeing people laugh, like, oh, it adds to it.

[271] It makes it, it's a communal experience.

[272] I agree.

[273] I think it's, it'd be very interesting to do stuff like that, like, and to do it, because it is your selling, like, that's why going to live shows are so great because you're just next to each other.

[274] It is, you start laughing.

[275] I mean, that's like when you show someone, someone's stint up.

[276] I was telling you before, like with Atel, we had two guys on my bus, they never heard.

[277] They're not comics, but they never heard skanks for the memories.

[278] So we, I played it for them and getting to watch them watch it.

[279] Hey, you get to go back through it and catch all the little stuff that you don't, that I may, you know, that you, I forgot or I didn't catch.

[280] But then also getting to watch them watch it, which is the most fun.

[281] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[282] Because you get, like, just seeing someone laugh, that's a, that's, people like that.

[283] People like sharing joy that they want to go, I want to just see you laugh at this.

[284] That makes me laugh even more because then I'm happy.

[285] And it's a beautiful thing.

[286] Especially when they're laughing for the first time, never heard the jokes.

[287] So even though you know the jokes are coming, you get to laugh extra because they're laughing with it.

[288] And you're like, you don't even to the part yet.

[289] Right.

[290] And you're watching them lose it.

[291] And you're like, you don't even know what's about to come.

[292] Well, that was a tell back when he was doing.

[293] insomniac so he was touring around the country and getting hammering every night and that was a wild different atel I saw that atel at the beginning when I first moved to New York what year did you start I started in 2003 uh but then I moved to New York in 04 and so you moved to New York like one year after you started where'd you start Chicago I moved to Chicago I took a comedy class Oh, really?

[294] We're at?

[295] In Chicago, comedy college.

[296] Jim Roth, I still talk to that guy.

[297] Comedy College?

[298] Yeah, I'm not against classes.

[299] A lot of comics are, because it's just, I didn't know what to do.

[300] You don't know what to do.

[301] It's like, they're not teaching you how to be jokes, but you're like, I'm so nervous.

[302] You're scared.

[303] I moved to a different city.

[304] I didn't know anybody.

[305] So it was nice to just go do it.

[306] What made you move there?

[307] I had a buddy that wanted to go to Second City, and he wanted to do improv.

[308] Oh, just for, and you moved from...

[309] Nashville.

[310] So straight from Nashville, right to Chicago, and you were only there a year before you moved to New York.

[311] I did comedy about a year.

[312] We ended up living there two years, but it was like, I only did comedy about a year and a half there.

[313] But that was, Pete Holmes was there, Kumel Najiani, Hannibal, Jared Logan, Nick Vatterot.

[314] I mean, like, it was T .J. Miller.

[315] Yeah, yeah.

[316] We were all brand new.

[317] And then Pete moved to New York, and then I moved right after Pete.

[318] I did, I barked with Pete, his show.

[319] Explain barking to people.

[320] Oh, like standing out corner and just handing out flyers.

[321] So you just like, hey, we got a great comedy show tonight.

[322] And you just sit out there and you hand someone a flyer and then they drop it on the ground in front of you.

[323] That's what barking is.

[324] You just basically do I want throwing this on the ground?

[325] And they go, yeah, I'll do it.

[326] That's the thing that really only goes down in New York.

[327] Yeah.

[328] Now it's like a business.

[329] Really?

[330] I think now they start hiring people.

[331] But when I did it, we did it for Boston Comedy Club.

[332] And my buddy Dustin Chafin, who, happy birthday, Dustin.

[333] Have birthday to you?

[334] I didn't say, you know, both have birthdays today.

[335] Boston was, uh, open in 2004.

[336] Yeah.

[337] It was right.

[338] I was there.

[339] I was at the very end of it.

[340] I got in.

[341] I do, I would see Chappelle there, uh, every night.

[342] Chappelle's on the Chappelle shows.

[343] Right before Chappelle left when he, uh, because he was walkabout.

[344] Yeah.

[345] Because he would come.

[346] I mean, I saw Burr, Patrice.

[347] Like, that's where I saw.

[348] those guys and I went to their HBO one -night stand tapings and you saw them run sets and you saw them like, you know, everybody kind of come up.

[349] Louis was probably the biggest, like, but still wasn't insanely Louis yet, but was like the one.

[350] Burr was like the one that you're watching and he's like the first guy that you're like, I can't like, you know, we'd go watching McCarrollins and no one was there.

[351] Or no one's there, but like it's half full.

[352] No one really, no one kind of known from O &A or something.

[353] And then the next year is like when his day.

[354] HBO thing and then you're like it's sold out in Caroline's like you can't even they were like you can't come watch and you're like we were watching last and they're like yeah well everybody could come watch last year now you can't it's too full and it'd be too crowded yeah and so he was like watching him just blow up that's a very fortunate thing that we have and it's really good for young comics to watch someone blow up because then if it ever does happen to you you kind of understand what happens like the process of it all Like you get to see what it's like when someone...

[355] You get to see it's possible.

[356] Yeah, yeah, you see it's possible.

[357] Because you're like, that dude was just here.

[358] Right, right, right.

[359] And now he's not.

[360] Because we always tend to think about people as being in like a static state.

[361] Like if you run into Chris Rock, you assume he's always been Chris Rock.

[362] Yeah.

[363] But if you knew Chris Rock when he was just starting out, like you'd go, oh, this is the process.

[364] This is possible for everybody.

[365] I just saw a clip today with Chris talking about New Jack City saying that when they, when him and Ice Tea were, they were, they were really, reading lines, reading at the table.

[366] And they didn't have, I guess, a star.

[367] And it was for Wesley Snipes.

[368] And then they got Wesley Snipes.

[369] And Wesley Snipes wasn't, like, they didn't know who he was.

[370] He wasn't famous.

[371] But then once Wesley Snipes started reading the line, they were like, oh, this movie's going to be, like, real.

[372] It's going to be huge.

[373] And he wasn't huge, but they could tell that, like, oh, this dude's, like, different.

[374] Yeah.

[375] You know, and that was like, you know, that's Chris Rock and Ice Tea, who are, You know, are not Chris Rock and Ice T. And then they're even like, oh, that's, they're just dudes reading at a table.

[376] And then they see Wesley Snipes.

[377] They're like, oh, now this movie's about to be huge.

[378] Oh, he's a bad motherfucker.

[379] Wesley Snipes could act his ass off.

[380] He had power, you know?

[381] He was great at his blade.

[382] I really wish they would bring Blade back.

[383] I know they're bringing it back with a new actor, but God damn it, Wesley Snipes was good.

[384] Wesley Snipes is a great action.

[385] He was a good blade.

[386] Yeah.

[387] Very fun.

[388] Apparently, though, he went off the rails.

[389] He went a little nutty because Patton Oswald has a whole bit about doing Blade 3 with Wesley Snipes.

[390] Leslie Snipes is like allegedly imbibing in certain, you know, controlled substances.

[391] Yeah.

[392] Well, in his trailer, it just was like is out of control and fucked up the whole taping of it.

[393] Patten has like a whole bit, like a whole chunk that he did on filming Blade 3.

[394] Yeah.

[395] I mean, if you met Wesley Snipes, it would be.

[396] It'd be wild, like, to be around him and just, because those guys are so famous.

[397] I was supposed to fight him.

[398] Really?

[399] Yeah.

[400] Wesley Snipes was about to go to jail for taxes, and they were trying to figure out a way to make money.

[401] And they came to this guy, Campbell McLaren, who was one of the original producers of the UFC, and they wanted Wesley Snipes to fight Jean -Claude Van Damme.

[402] This was their idea, to have, like, a whole.

[403] fight, an actual fight.

[404] How old are they at this point?

[405] Wesley's older than me. I was in my 30s at the time, so I got assumed he was in, I was probably 35, so I got assume he was in his late 30, or late 30s or early 40s.

[406] You know, he still fit, but about to go to jail.

[407] You know, like he needed money.

[408] Yeah.

[409] And we're supposed to have a UFC fight.

[410] I trained for it for like six months.

[411] It was crazy.

[412] You were going to fight him.

[413] Oh, yeah.

[414] Because, wait, John Vaughn, he didn't want to do it.

[415] They didn't want John Clavette down.

[416] They're like, he's, that there's not, nobody.

[417] That would have been amazing anymore.

[418] Like an MMA fight?

[419] Yeah, it was going to be an MMA fight.

[420] And he does, he's a big MMA?

[421] I don't know.

[422] He's really good at karate.

[423] The thing is, like, I don't think he had ever competed before.

[424] You know, like, I hadn't competed in more than 10 years, but I did have three kickboxing fights, and I had like 100 Taekwendo fights.

[425] Like, I fought a lot.

[426] Yeah.

[427] Like, I know how to compete.

[428] And so I know I would have been, like, super nervous.

[429] But he doesn't know Jiu -Jitsu.

[430] Like, or what he knows, he doesn't, you know.

[431] At the time, I don't know if I was a black belt yet.

[432] I was, no, I don't think I was.

[433] I was a brown belt.

[434] But I was like, I'm going to strangle this, dude.

[435] Yeah, because you were younger and you're just, you're so much closer to all the, like, competing and all this kind of stuff.

[436] And then he's fighting from the stances.

[437] It's a lot of things.

[438] It's the fact that I had competed.

[439] the fact that I was pretty good at striking.

[440] And it was also like, if I got a hold of him, if I grab him, he's dead.

[441] I was like, if a brown belt and jiu -jitsu, who's really strong gets a hold of you, and you're the same size as him, he's actually like a little smaller than me. So if I got a hold of him, he would have been fucked.

[442] Dude, that would have been unreal.

[443] It would have been wild.

[444] Unless he knocked me out, that would have sucked.

[445] Yeah.

[446] Hoo, you get knocked out by blade.

[447] At least it's blade.

[448] There you go.

[449] I mean, where were they going to do, like, pay -per -view?

[450] Yeah.

[451] And it just didn't happen.

[452] You know, like, CM Punk fought in the UFC a couple of times.

[453] It had been one of those deals.

[454] And then so, oh, y 'all would have done it at the UFC?

[455] Yeah.

[456] Like, wow, dude.

[457] Yeah, the UFC was on board.

[458] Lawyers involved.

[459] It was, we went through a whole series of things.

[460] Like, it was, first it was supposed to be 50 -50, like 50 -50 split.

[461] Yeah.

[462] And I said, fine.

[463] And then he changed it again and said, you know, like, I don't remember what his stipulation was.

[464] Like, he wanted 60, 40.

[465] And I said, I don't, and like, the lawyers are like, you know, should we push back, this and that?

[466] Like, what do you want to do?

[467] I go, I'm going to fucking strangle this guy.

[468] So give him the money.

[469] Yeah.

[470] He's going to need the money.

[471] I go, it doesn't matter.

[472] It's not that much money.

[473] Like, whatever it is.

[474] I mean, you know, like the difference, whatever the difference was.

[475] Yeah, yeah.

[476] I was training twice a day, every day.

[477] I was kickboxing with Rob Kamen.

[478] So I'd go in with Rob Kamen.

[479] in the mornings who was a legendary Holland kickboxer and I would train with him and he was taking me through his striking system and I was sparring and kickboxing and then after I did that I would go to jiu -jitsu at night I was fucking exhausted all the time I couldn't I couldn't believe how tired it was all the time I was just so tired how close did it get before they pulled it pretty close yeah pretty close like we were trying to figure out when it would happen like would it be December would it be November like what it would it be November like what it was and so I was just constantly training just trying to get in shape I'm like I'm gonna get ahead of this and so it got down to I forget what the final fucking straw that broke the camel's back was when he backed out but I gave him everything he asked for every time they try to change things I said okay yeah I said I'm gonna strangle him I go give him what he wants just I just don't want to lose him I'm like if he wants to do this like I was so obsessed and then once it was over I was like I'm glad I didn't do that like because then I have had another fight.

[480] Like, what if I had that fight and it went well?

[481] And then, you know, someone else wants a fight.

[482] And then I'm, and then I'm doing the Jake Paul thing.

[483] Yeah.

[484] That shit will consume you.

[485] Because fighting is not something, first of all, it's not something you're going to do great your first fight back.

[486] Because I would have, I would have fought and I would said, ah, my timing was off.

[487] I felt like I got a little too nervous.

[488] I need like the experience, like the more active you are if you're competing, the more you get comfortable with competing.

[489] So the more it feels like a normal thing.

[490] Like Daniel Carmier was actually.

[491] actually just talking about that in one of the past UFCs about a guy that had taken two years off because he had like a significant injury and there's a bunch of other shit that happened and he's like that is so hard to do he goes when you fight a lot he's like you go in there it's just like a normal thing you do like you're in there you're fighting normal I fought two months ago it's normal you just go through your camp and you're in there but for me I mean it would have been like over 10 years so I would have probably been like a little sketchy like a little like who what the fuck am I doing like why am I doing this but then once you do it then you get the experience and you go you know what I was a little nervous doing that let me do that again and then I think I don't think I showed my full potential let me do that again and I would probably said like look I'm in my 30s I was probably 35 36 I was like I only got like a couple years left where I could physically do this and compete with you know legit martial artists like give me like a couple more fights and then I would have probably tried to fight some other celebrity slash big mouth character and and then I would have been who knows what it would have probably got brain damage more and yeah I mean you might not be here you'd be just yeah you'll be talking to you now and you'd be like hey Joe you're all right buddy fine fine he's just fighting just random people that's wild that that almost I could see that if you don't fight for two years I mean that's we're talking about with comedy oh yeah when you don't go up and you're not being funny and regularly being funny, then you lose that.

[492] What's the most time you've ever taken off?

[493] I don't even know.

[494] It should be like COVID.

[495] That should have been the answer.

[496] I took off that whole...

[497] But even it had to be a month or two.

[498] That's all you took off during COVID?

[499] No, I guess more.

[500] I should say more.

[501] I never...

[502] I don't believe in COVID, so I never took any time off.

[503] That's the most comedy I've ever done.

[504] I think of my biggest years or 2020?

[505] The most sense of it.

[506] ever done.

[507] There's plenty of open stage.

[508] Yeah, I go, it was wide open, dude.

[509] I was trying to get off.

[510] No one was lying to me. No one was there.

[511] And then there, no, I, during COVID, I, that was definitely the most time I took off, whatever it was, I guess a few months, I don't know exactly.

[512] And then stuff would, you'd have like an outdoor thing.

[513] And then I did a, then I did the driving tour.

[514] So we had that set up pretty quickly.

[515] And then I went and did those.

[516] And then so I was doing three four cities a night in my special i taped outside and so he's like you just adjusted to i never did drive -in shows did you like those i love dude one of my i loved them i loved them it was do you want to go do them i don't want to go do them all the time right you wouldn't want to do it now no no i do i do in amphitheaters right now and those have been rift some of them are great some of them so far they've been awesome i heard red rocks is the shit i have not done right yeah burr loved it oh yeah red rocks i think so bird just filmed the special there yeah yeah yeah red rock is legendary like and then but then some of these like I'm going to Wisconsin Dales I'm leaving tonight at midnight to just start driving there on the bus and then I'll do that Saturday and then so I like the outdoors because you can hear it's just going to do different things right like the driving theaters was like all right well if I'm going I might as well just go see what it is I want to you know you want to see your act kind of go through everything, and they'd be like, I'll go talk to these cars.

[517] And then you've got to learn the timing of that.

[518] Chicago, we did one.

[519] And it was one of the more memorable shows I think I'll ever have in my career.

[520] It was like starting to rain.

[521] It was like 45 degrees out.

[522] It was kind of chilly.

[523] I mean, there's, it's, there was 2 ,000 people there.

[524] It was like, I mean, so it's just car after car.

[525] And then they would laugh.

[526] And so they couldn't sit outside.

[527] People up front sit outside, but then you can't.

[528] So they would like flash your lights and kind of haunt.

[529] for laughs and they did it in a very the timing was great like you're like oh I just got it now instead of hearing laughs I'm just kind of going off the honks and so then you're like you kind of pause and be be beep beep beep and then some lights flash and then you got to just trust that you know how to do it yeah I never did those but I did I took a long time off I did I went from March when everything shut down to July and then Texas was still doing shows like in comedy clubs indoors and I was like that is crazy and I remember me and Tony talking and I'm like do you want to like try it for a weekend you know like apparently they had they said that well we have limited seating and we yeah we socially distance everyone horses shit we got there was packed the improv was fucking packed we got we got out there I go how the fuck are they socially distanced this is not socially distance people had their masks under their noses it was ridiculous yeah and I did one weekend and it was so much fun but then I got really high, and I thought, what if I got COVID and gave it to one of my guests?

[530] And even though I was testing every day, you know, we were testing really early on, I was like, but what if?

[531] Like, what if it's not worth it?

[532] Like, what if someone got really sick?

[533] What if someone died?

[534] You know, I started thinking about that.

[535] I was like, okay, I have to be more responsible.

[536] And so then I waited.

[537] And then we started doing outdoor shows.

[538] Chappelle and I started doing outdoor shows in Austin.

[539] He said, we got this place, let's do stubs, we could do it outside, we'll screen the entire crowd, and we definitely tested people positive.

[540] There was quite a few people that got kicked out of the show, because there'd be this long line outside.

[541] They would test you, you have to wait 15 minutes, and the positive people that got sent home, you know, maybe half dozen or so during the course of all of our shows.

[542] But for the most part, people, you know, you know if you're sick, you know if you're not feeling good, and most people are, responsible and it was all outside anyway and there's no outside transmission really and so we had these fucking amazing shows and it felt so special that we were doing shows outside during the pandemic and you know it's donnell rawlings it's me mo ammer michelle wolf i mean these were great fucking shows yeah i went to one the one ron white was there yeah ron did some shows with me so then you know we were getting into that Like, it was like, wow, we're doing stand -up again.

[543] If we have to do it just this way again, that's fine.

[544] But then one night we did the Vulcan.

[545] One night, we did the Vulcan, and we did it on, I think it was a Thursday night.

[546] I think it was Red Band's night.

[547] Or maybe it was Tony Hinchcliffe's night.

[548] I don't remember what it was.

[549] But I remember Ron White saying that, well, I'm basically going to retire.

[550] I mean, I think I've done enough.

[551] You know, I'm on a, I'm going to sell my jet.

[552] I'm going to fucking kick back and just play golf.

[553] and I'm not doing stand -up anymore.

[554] And then, you know, we said, we got a show on Thursday night.

[555] You want to go do a set?

[556] He's like, well, maybe I'll do one fucking set.

[557] He goes on stage, and apparently he, like, took it very seriously.

[558] And was, you had an iPad, and it was, like, listening to old sets and going over his notes, like, all day, all day long.

[559] He goes on stage and fucking murders.

[560] I mean murders.

[561] murders and then I'm up after him and he comes off stage and he grabs him on my shoulders and he goes whatever we got to do we're fucking doing this again whatever we got to do like he was just he was just electric man I mean he felt that juice again and when he went on stage they went fucking apesha like he's a legend everywhere but he lives in Austin you know and so when he goes on stage in Austin And he's like, ah, yeah, that's, uh, yeah, once you went back to the indoors, it was impossible.

[562] Yeah, you're like, this is what it's about.

[563] And also, the indoors in a club, like amphitheater's great, outside's great, stubs is amazing, so much fun.

[564] But indoors in a club, just 300 people, everybody tied in, like, ah, madness.

[565] And we're all like, are we going to die from this?

[566] Yeah.

[567] Is this, are we going to get sick from this?

[568] This is what I was already doing like vitamin infusions and shit though I was holding off all the colds I was keeping everything at bay I was fucking on top I was on point I was doing hyperbaric chambers sessions I was doing vitamin IVs I was pretty fucking healthy just to try to like if this shit comes I gotta be ready yeah you know but and then I was hooked once we started doing that I said okay well just I'm just gonna like really take care of myself and you know just fucking go back to doing shows yeah it well I mean it changed it I mean yeah it's the being around people it's everything it's like going to a restaurant going to any like you just that you know getting people back together is it's you everybody you saw how much you missed it well that was one of the things that really sold my kids on Texas you know we when we came out here I was just disillusioned with L .A. and I was very confused as to what the fuck they were doing and when they wouldn't let people do outside shows and they wouldn't let restaurants are open.

[569] It wouldn't even let restaurants serve outside in some places.

[570] It was fucked and it was just like you're seeing these dipshits like the mayor of L .A. That Eric Garcetti guy is a fucking idiot.

[571] You're seeing that guy like telling people what to do.

[572] And I was like, this is a disaster.

[573] I got to get the fuck out of here.

[574] But I didn't know what to do.

[575] And I thought about moving to Utah at one point in time.

[576] I was going to get a mountain house.

[577] I thought about moving to Montana.

[578] I was like, I just got to get the fuck out of this city.

[579] Like, I don't trust these people.

[580] I don't want to be under their governance.

[581] And then we came to L .A. with a bunch of friends from California that were thinking about moving to Austin.

[582] And we said, you know, and I was like, you know, I don't know.

[583] I wasn't sure if I wanted to move to Austin, but like maybe that's a good place to be.

[584] I always love it here.

[585] And my fucking kids when they came here, and, you know, they were 10 and 12 at the time.

[586] And they were like, why doesn't anyone have masks on?

[587] how come it's different here like we go to a restaurant we're just sitting in a restaurant like this is like normal this is normal who went and had barbecue outside and everyone's friendly and they're like and then we went to the lake and uh we were on the lake and the lady who was showing us this house she very smart my friend bridget she's a good friend now she took us out on a boat on the lake and my kids were like we're jumping in the water and laughing and and they're like i want to live here and my wife's like oh and i go and i go So let's buy a fucking house here.

[588] If you don't like it, we could, you know, we'll try it out for a year.

[589] And then it became let's try it out for a year.

[590] And then as soon as we lived here, my kids immediately loved it.

[591] Like they made friends, like normal kids, like normal kids that don't want to be fucking reality TV stars.

[592] Well, I think that's the biggest is to get around regular people.

[593] I've been back in Nashville for seven years, I think, where I'm from.

[594] and our daughter we moved back when she was two but it's like my family's there and like she goes to school and she rides the bus and your parents live there yeah yeah my parents are there my wife's parents are about an hour away like everybody's super close so we see our family often and uh and we're I mean luckily I'm from Nashville and Nashville become a awesome town to move to and but they're you know our daughter goes to school rides the bus like it's trying to let her like have the most normal kind of like existence and I think it's it's good for comics because we are I'm doing normal things I'm doing you know it's like you're not even you know you're not thinking about the business the whole time like it's not like you you mean even though you think about it you know but it's not as you're like yeah still got to go run you know we go watch your play softball and then we go do this and yeah you know and it just makes it I think it just helps for your material 100 % it also like it lets your material be pure in that it's just really who you are and what you and I never really had a problem with that but I know some people who would be hoping that they would get on a sitcom or hoping they would you know get a deal somewhere and so they would tone down bits or they would change bits they wouldn't do what's the most funny they would like pull back a little bit because and they would say you would see them say things like on Twitter like oh you have virtue signulent fuck I know what you're doing like they're just trying to like signal to Hollywood like I'm on the right side yeah I'm in the tribe you know yeah here's my black square it's Tuesday you know it's like they they were doing these things where it was it was like real obvious that they were kind of captured by the idea being a part of this system like if I play my cards right one day I'll be Kevin Hart if I play my cards rate one day I'll be Jimmy Fallon I'll host a show I'll do this and so you're kind of captured by this possible promise of money that comes from this weird place which is Hollywood yeah the television and film industry out here is none of that and so it's free it's just comic it's this comedy and the actual industry is podcasting which is the best industry for comics it's the best industry for comics to be themselves and it's also the best industry for comics because you get promoted way more like like if you're if you're a comic and you're in with like all the podcasters like you're going on people's podcasters like you're going on people's You're having, I was just on Theo's podcast.

[595] He was on mine.

[596] And it's just fun as shit, having a great fucking time.

[597] Just laughing our asses off.

[598] And it's like the best promotion for both of us.

[599] Best promotion for him.

[600] Best promotion for me. It's like everybody's like out there doing their thing and everybody benefits from it.

[601] It's not like this.

[602] You're waiting for someone to give you a gig thing.

[603] You're hoping someone gives you a deal.

[604] No, you just live in life and doing comedy.

[605] And you're rewarded for doing good comedy.

[606] You're rewarded for doing great.

[607] sets like people talk about it like oh man you should see Nate last night holy shit that's funny and it people get talking about it on podcast and it it benefits everybody it's not like that it's it rewards you for being real as opposed to like you know settling into that system yeah it makes it you can be yourself yeah so you're completely yourself and which is as a comedian that's what you are selling is yourself yeah you're going I am me this is what I'm doing and then that's what it is exactly I think it's it's it's Yeah, it is interesting to, like, when I went to, when I moved, I lived in L .A. for two years, and then it was like going auditions, and I just was, like, terrible at him.

[608] Like, I can only talk like this, and I don't know how to not do this.

[609] I wasn't, I remember getting a callback somewhere, and they were like, she was like, if you dyed your, like, beard and hair just black, you look young enough.

[610] And then I go back to the callback, still looking like this.

[611] And I think I was like, oh, you wanted me to do this for the callback.

[612] and I didn't realize that and I was like but what if I don't get it I don't go die I just dye my walking around weird black hair and then you're like and y 'all say no like I'm just the odds are I'm not getting this so I'm not going to go do something that's so crazy just to be like nah we're good dude why can't they imagine you with dark hair what are they stupid how hard is it to die it takes 10 minutes that's where you're that's where it's like Like, they're looking, I don't know, they're not, they're looking for something, it's out of your hands.

[613] Isn't there some stuff that they can just spray, like when girls do like purple hair and they could just rinse it right out?

[614] Yeah, that could have probably been.

[615] I could have right done that.

[616] I didn't think about any of this at the time.

[617] That shit they do on your face, though, I know that guys have put that like, I don't know if it's just for men or some other company, they put stuff on their beard and it gives them a chemical burn on their face.

[618] It's fuck guys.

[619] Oh, that's crazy.

[620] I don't know which, find out what that is.

[621] Like, there's stuff that guys do where they try to get rid of the gray on their beard.

[622] And maybe it's whether you leave it in long or maybe people are allergic to it.

[623] But I went down a rabbit hole once, and I saw a bunch of dudes with, like, burned faces.

[624] Well, can't you not, like, if you've already shown your gray, like, if they've already seen it, then it's like...

[625] You can't go back.

[626] Can't, like, yeah, if you, like, tomorrow show up and you're just trying to be normal.

[627] We both have just very black beards, and we're like, hello.

[628] Well, we thought about doing that for sober October, because, um, you know, because, um, you know, Like, all of us are going bald.

[629] Oh, I'm fully bald.

[630] But, like, Ari's pretty bald.

[631] Tom's bald.

[632] Burt's going bald.

[633] Like, we should wear wigs.

[634] It's just, like, for the whole month.

[635] The whole month, you have to wear, like, a wacky dupe.

[636] Yeah.

[637] Get one glued on.

[638] Just the weird.

[639] You have to wear it every.

[640] They make fucking good ones, though.

[641] I know some guys who have toupees, and you're like, damn, I can't even tell.

[642] Like, they, it's, I guess it's called a lace front where the front, you know, like your hair line like I can see through to your scalp and that's how it looks in the beginning and then the rest of it is all filled in I don't think I'm a good two paper I don't think I can tell like I'm saying I fall for it like I have a full head of hair yeah oh so that's why that's how you know just for men's hair dye users report allergic reactions yeah see if you can find some images because there were some gross images of like dudes like burns on their face like chemical burns all over their face but they might have done They might have used some wacky shit And that's where you go do that Just to they go We're going to pass We're not going to take you As someone who's dyed their hair before You are supposed to check your skin To see if you have an allergic reaction Before you do everything Is in your face like more?

[643] Such a dude thing They go I'll be all right though What is going on with that guy over there The one to the right of that?

[644] Oh man What is happening with him?

[645] Oh he still has to die on Oh It goes horrifically wrong Okay let's oh he dyed his beer For his girlfriend Man's girlfriend Died his beard.

[646] Oh, boy.

[647] Let's pretend you're 20.

[648] Oh, yeah, that's what I saw.

[649] And he's like, is this what you wanted?

[650] He's fucking asshole.

[651] Is this what you wanted?

[652] You're done to my face.

[653] Yeah, what if that shit's permanent?

[654] That's fucking, remember, well, I don't remember, but Brody, Brody Stevens had his face lasered because he, Brody's a hairy motherfucker.

[655] His hair would go like a wolf all the way up to his eyeballs.

[656] And so he got his cheeks lasered.

[657] and someone burnt a hole in his fucking cheek.

[658] I think, yeah, it was bad, man. He was super self -conscious about him.

[659] Brody was already, like, struggling with depression.

[660] He was very upset by it.

[661] The guy, like, he had a hole in his face.

[662] Like, it was like a large divot where this guy had fucking burned a hole in his face for moving his face down.

[663] And it just burns the hair off permanently?

[664] Yeah, it's like girls do it with a coot?

[665] Yeah.

[666] I want to do it my...

[667] Guys could do it on their back.

[668] Yeah?

[669] I don't have a ton of hair on my back, but it's enough.

[670] I got, do you shave it?

[671] My wife shaves it.

[672] I can't shave it myself, obviously.

[673] There's a thing that supposedly I was just, I've never done it.

[674] You can get a miss a patch.

[675] Yeah, and they just have like a, you're like, what's that?

[676] You're like, what's that?

[677] You go to the beach, fucking weird question.

[678] It's worse than having a full back hair.

[679] It's just like this weird.

[680] I don't mind my back hair.

[681] It doesn't bother me at all.

[682] Well, I like it.

[683] I had my wife shaved it and went to, like, once.

[684] It is not, when you don't have it, you're, I think about it some, but then you're like, I don't know.

[685] Then you forget about it, then you're like, where am I with my shirt off?

[686] Like, you're just, my shirt's not off enough to commit to it.

[687] Right.

[688] It's not like in a situation where I'm like super worried about it.

[689] Yeah.

[690] Well, back hair doesn't bother me. Chest hair doesn't bother me either.

[691] My pubes can get a bit unruly.

[692] Yeah.

[693] But that's where manscape comes in.

[694] They've developed a razor specifically for.

[695] for your ball sack.

[696] Yeah, that's good.

[697] Manscaped has a, they called the lawnmower.

[698] Yeah.

[699] It's just for your, just for your sack.

[700] It's nice.

[701] You have a cigar in you.

[702] Do I?

[703] Yeah.

[704] Where is it at?

[705] Well, it's right in the middle now.

[706] Do I get it?

[707] I think so.

[708] We'll find out in a little bit.

[709] I have a little gap there.

[710] I think everybody has a good.

[711] Yeah.

[712] Do they?

[713] Or no. They got it?

[714] Yeah, you're good now.

[715] Thank you.

[716] Appreciate it.

[717] Yeah, man. The gray hair thing is a weird thing.

[718] because like women don't like it at all they do not like going gray but a guy can go gray and like makes them look like a man of distinction he's going to experience well I think if everybody gradually lets themselves go whatever they want to go it's like if you let everything go like I think I was thinking about it like sometimes you see I just saw a thing of uh just because someone posted some of the Diane Keaton she looks unreal like but I like it and she's got He's 70 -something.

[719] Well, let me see a picture of Dying Ki -N -Kee.

[720] Well, look about Keanu Reeves' girlfriend.

[721] Like, she's full gray hair.

[722] Oh, really?

[723] Yeah, she's full head of gray hair.

[724] Looks great.

[725] You know, I think, like, that looks good.

[726] Yeah.

[727] I think that looks better to me than this shit.

[728] Yeah, yeah.

[729] Your face is pulled back.

[730] Yeah, I think whatever, if she does something, it's like, it makes it look very natural.

[731] She looks like a healthy older woman.

[732] Yes.

[733] Who's lived a long life.

[734] Yeah.

[735] That's good.

[736] I like it.

[737] Dress is very fun.

[738] What was I say about Ellen DeGeneres?

[739] Did Ellen cunt over her?

[740] Oh, she says the set exudes happiness.

[741] Oh, all right.

[742] She was nice to her.

[743] Never mind.

[744] I guess it's take it all back.

[745] They let Ellen run it back.

[746] I'll be honest you run it back, Ellen.

[747] Yeah, she's Diane Keaton should come back and pretend she's an assistant, put on a mask and see how it goes.

[748] I meet the real Ellen now.

[749] He goes, what's that?

[750] She gets hit in the bat.

[751] the back of the head what was that hey cunt where's my fucking coffee yeah oh it's it a little different isn't it funny how that like people found out that she wasn't that person and they freaked but they're watching the show like they let her have a very long gradual i that's what i understand it was like it was like it was people got mad and then it was like all right take your time on the way out yeah do a farewell season and you're like oh i thought y 'all like hated her like i thought it was bad.

[752] Well, I think it was probably sometimes bad in those sometimes bad moments when you rack them up over 14 years or whatever the fuck it was she was doing her show.

[753] That looks horrible.

[754] You know, she probably had some rough date.

[755] Look, she's a fucking performer.

[756] And also, she grew up a gay woman.

[757] She probably got fucked with and she probably felt discrimination, a lot of shit.

[758] She probably harbors some resentment.

[759] Man, who knows?

[760] Great comedian, too.

[761] And it's all Very good comedian.

[762] And also, there's this thing where you kind of get away with it.

[763] Because when you're on a set, like, you know what it's like, everybody's like, if you're the star or the show, everybody comes to you with a bagel and coffee and they kiss your ass.

[764] And if you're susceptible to that, if you don't self -audit, you can get sucked into that and start thinking you're that fucking person.

[765] It's wild.

[766] I shot a pilot.

[767] I mean, I even see it sometimes on the road, but it's like, I shot a pilot.

[768] And it was, you have, like, people that are just, they're like, it'll be like, they bring you, you want Starbucks.

[769] You can say anything.

[770] Anything.

[771] Barbecue.

[772] Get me barbecue.

[773] I want a bar.

[774] Yeah.

[775] You want barbecue.

[776] I want, whatever you want, you're like, I want to drive a Nissan Sentra today.

[777] Someone will go figure out how to do that.

[778] And if you don't, like you said, if you don't self -audit, if you don't realize this is crazy.

[779] That's what I was like, you got to have, like, I got a lot, I still talk to, like, all my high school buddies and stuff like that.

[780] But you need people that are going to be regular people.

[781] So you can't, if you're like, hey, do you want to go to Alaska tomorrow and you need something that's like, I got like a job and stuff and like my family and I can't.

[782] Yeah.

[783] You know, that's insane that you want to go do something like that.

[784] You're like, that is insane.

[785] That is insane that I said that.

[786] And I needed to be reminded because you can get a little squirly because your hours are different and you're just like, what are you doing tomorrow?

[787] You're going to go, uh, caving?

[788] And they're like, I got to work, man. I got to work, dude.

[789] My daughter has a fucking cheer practice.

[790] She got cheer.

[791] Then I got the dentist.

[792] I go, The sun's got Little League.

[793] It's a fucking talking about.

[794] What is your life?

[795] You're going to Alaska?

[796] That is right.

[797] You're going to get eaten by a bear, and I'm going to be like, foul ball.

[798] And then they're like, do you want to go out to dinner on Saturday night?

[799] Are you out of your mind?

[800] Saturday night, so I can't wear it.

[801] I can't go.

[802] Would you like to go to lunch at 12 a .m. on a Wednesday?

[803] And they're like, what?

[804] That's the one thing about comics that you hang out with people that have that wacky schedule.

[805] You get accustomed to that.

[806] You wind up texting your friend.

[807] At 2 o 'clock in the morning, he's like, bro, why the fuck are you texting me?

[808] I'm sleeping.

[809] Oh, and you have no going.

[810] You're like, oh, why are you asleep at 2?

[811] Yeah, you're like, who are you, dude?

[812] Did you not do a late show?

[813] Yeah, yeah, that doesn't make sense.

[814] And you get so used to, like, waking up late, too.

[815] If I texted a comic at 10 and they were like, oh, I fell asleep, I would be like, so you quit comedy.

[816] Yeah.

[817] I guess that's your wife telling me, because how are you?

[818] Yeah.

[819] This is a sadness when people quit comedy.

[820] You know, when someone's good and they quit comedy, many I get bummed out man I really do quit like I don't want to name names quite a few friends oh like we're pretty good yeah guys who were opening acts for me who I felt like had some potential and they just you know for whatever reason just and a lot of times they get sucked into the business they want to be in writers and there's a good living and being a writer so you know you'll you'll you'll be getting those steady paychecks but you know there's a few guys that I think literally are some of the best comics in the world but they Owen Smith you know Owen Smith from LA that motherfucker is one of the best comics on earth he is so funny and so polished and so likable he's such a nice guy and so smart and I'm always blown away that that guy is not headlining arenas all over the he should be Owen Smith should be headlining arenas all over the world he's a fucking assassin but he's a showrunner he's he's doing these things he's doing but he knows Which is a crazy thing to go be as a show writer.

[821] He's very successful.

[822] It's not a bad thing that he's doing well in Hollywood.

[823] But I feel like as a comic, I feel like it just sucks that he's not recognized for this one thing that he does so well.

[824] He's so funny, man. Yeah, I try to think, like, seeing guys stop.

[825] They do become writers.

[826] Yeah.

[827] Like, I've seen a lot of comics that they come up in there.

[828] I mean, like, really be doing spots.

[829] like you're like it's not like it's like someone half doing it right killing killing and fully doing it and then they go and they get into writing but it's i think people find their you know you just kind of find whatever lane yes that you're kind of like all right well then this seems the path for me in this scene like that's like auditioning i learned like all right well i'm gonna have to either write a show for myself or or just be a stand -up and like just be this because i'm not i don't do well trying to be someone else or I'm doing these auditions it's embarrassing right you know it's like I mean it's some of them I emailed a lady and apologized because it was so bad I was like I shouldn't have been in there because I had to like you emailed a little yeah yeah nice guy you are well I just it was she was very nice and she was always like bringing me into stuff because I don't always get brought in because it's like I you know I talk different like I think in theory they want like me to you know it's like yeah this guy's different and then I go show them that it's like it's not going good and and then they're like that's not what we thought as a yeah and then so I emailed her and apologized I had the the luckiest run in Hollywood of all time because I only auditioned for two shows and I got both of them you know the news radio and no a show called Hardball and then a show called News Radio so it did Hardball it was a show on Fox I did that, and then I went from Hardball, I went to news radio.

[830] Wow.

[831] So it was like I was working, like right away.

[832] How long was Hardball on?

[833] Real quick.

[834] Six, seven episodes.

[835] It was a disaster.

[836] It was an interesting situation, though, because the guys who wrote it, they were really, Jeff and Kevin, Jeff Martin and Kevin Curran, I think that was her names, really funny guys who wrote on The Simpsons, and they wrote on Married with Children, and they were really funny.

[837] funny but they were like kind of introvert writer guys who are really cool and just like kind of like kind of nerdy but fucking great writers and then fox bought the pilot we did a pilot me and jim brewer jim brewer was on it with me and jim and i were good buddies yeah so we had a great fucking time and uh mike star from goodfellows was in it and a couple other people and we did this pilot and it got picked up and then when he got picked up they were like yeah but you guys can't be a showrunner you don't know what you're doing like we're going to bring in a real showrunner and they brought in this showrunner who just butchered the thing just turned it into this shitty like cut and paste copy paste sort of pot of a sitcom and it was terrible and it got canceled that's why you need owen smith to go be a showrunner yeah you actually need people that's going to go in there and yeah in that case yeah in that scenario well we needed those guys that Jeff and Kevin should should have been the guys who, it was their idea.

[838] Like, they were baseball fans, and they had this idea of doing this baseball sitcom.

[839] And that was what it was.

[840] Phil Rosenthal had that with Everybody Loves Raymond.

[841] They tried to get someone else's a show run him, and he was like, no. He just was like, we just won't, he's going to quit.

[842] It was like, and just stood the ground.

[843] They said, all right.

[844] Thank God.

[845] I got news radio because they fired Ray Romano.

[846] Oh, yeah.

[847] Ray Romano was the original character that I played.

[848] So they fired Ray Luckily they fired Ray during the pilot And then they hired another guy During the pilot to play my part And then they fired him So I wasn't taking Ray's job I was taking the guy who took Ray's job Because I was friends with Ray Yeah So it's like You know sometimes something like that will happen And you think it's the fucking end of the world But for Ray it was like the greatest thing That could have ever happened to him Because then he went on to do his own thing And it was fucking brilliant Yeah That's interesting to like just with that pilot I shot like you see like they have to fire people and like you know like you think about like the kid actors and like they're not doing you got to tell a seven year old like it's all right that's enough and it's over and you're like this is a brutal world I always think that with the pilots too like that's what's crazy with TV is you go they spend a million dollars two million dollars on a pilot and then they say no and you're like well they shot it like it's a real TV show.

[849] There's hundreds and hundreds and probably thousands of TV shows with huge actors.

[850] Yeah, that never went anywhere.

[851] That never went anywhere.

[852] You're like, how do you not like put those at it?

[853] Like I thought someone said on Twitter once you said, you should have a channel that's like a pilot channel and you're just like these are the shows that didn't, and then just see what they do.

[854] Like, you know, there's an episode or there's this and how do you not use that?

[855] Well, there probably could be a channel of all failed pilots.

[856] Well, they could show them all.

[857] I mean, you would see unbelievable amounts of, like, the people that came huge stars that did these pilots that went nowhere.

[858] It's hard to do one of those things, man. To put together an actual pilot and have it come out and be a real show.

[859] That is fucking, that's a grind, because you've got a lot of moving pieces.

[860] You've got a lot of different executives with their, and they all have their own little hot takes on how things you're...

[861] People aren't funny at all, and they'll come in and tell you, Nate, I like what you're doing, but I wish you were just a little bit more active.

[862] Maybe, maybe, like, you come in, you're jogging in place, you're, like, distracted, like, and you're like, what?

[863] Like, what do you, and then you, do I have to listen to this?

[864] And then the showrunners have to meet with the executives, and the executives want to bring in a gay friend, and they want to bring in a handsome guy.

[865] And there's, like, there's all these different, like, pieces that get shoved into the mix.

[866] So many cooks in the kitchen.

[867] It's amazing how many shows come out good at all.

[868] Oh, it's borderline impossible that a show could get made.

[869] They'd always, a big one when I would write the shows, they'd always talk about conflict.

[870] And so you turn it in, they're like, well, you just don't know where the conflict is.

[871] And I was going to be like, everybody has cancer, everybody in the show.

[872] Is that good?

[873] Still the show done exactly like it is, but everybody's got cancer.

[874] One person has a gun.

[875] That's the conflict of the show.

[876] It always has to be conflict.

[877] But, you know, I mean, really it's just about.

[878] interactions.

[879] It's just about funny interactions.

[880] It's I, the cast is a big part of it.

[881] Yeah.

[882] You have to believe that cast.

[883] You have to, uh, everything kind of does have to come together, but it's, they get in, you know, I, like, we, the, when, the one I shot was a multi -cam, and so they always want to do a multi -cam.

[884] Like, I would always take out multi -cams or write multi -cams, because it's like, in theory, they want to do these multi -cams because they're cheaper and they're, all this stuff.

[885] But then you're like, you're going to pitch it to someone that's not watching a multi -camp.

[886] Like, they don't watch it.

[887] So they're watching all these, you know, single -camera shows or everything that's cool.

[888] So then they see the multicam because their business side of their minds wants this cheap way to make a show.

[889] But then when they go to make the decision, they're like, well, I don't like that the way it looks or something.

[890] You're like, I'm doing this because you told me to write it this way.

[891] Right.

[892] And then, but you watch, you're only watching this other thing.

[893] Yeah.

[894] But weirdly enough, those multi -cams, are the ones that are still on.

[895] Seinfeld, news radio, is that still on?

[896] Like, it's...

[897] Yeah, you can watch it.

[898] It was on forever.

[899] On stuff.

[900] Look at all the, uh, these, you know, Seinfeld, King and Queens, Raymond.

[901] These shows are monsters still today.

[902] But they don't do them anymore.

[903] No, but no. No, that's what I mean.

[904] How many of them are on TV now?

[905] Big Bang Theory was the last, probably giant one.

[906] Yeah.

[907] I don't know if there's one.

[908] Netflix had, uh, the one with Ashton Coutcher.

[909] What did they do?

[910] What was that?

[911] Multicam.

[912] Oh, that was the old show that they brought back?

[913] Yeah.

[914] What the fuck was that?

[915] I forget it was called.

[916] But it was...

[917] 70s show, right?

[918] Wasn't it?

[919] No, no, they brought that back.

[920] No. The ranch or something like that, maybe?

[921] Oh, what is that?

[922] I don't even know what that is.

[923] I guess it's...

[924] About family on the ranch?

[925] I'd hope it's about a ranch.

[926] Did you ever watch...

[927] Surprisingly, not about a ranch.

[928] Yeah, sure.

[929] What did you watch?

[930] Everything.

[931] When you were young.

[932] Yeah, but like as an adult.

[933] Seinfeld?

[934] Did you watch anything as an adult?

[935] When I have stopped No I stopped watching the stuff probably like I was in college in high school Do you go back and watch Seinfeld?

[936] I remember I watched Curb Your Enthusiasm and I'm like Well this is the end Because this is so good They're never going to go back to doing it the other way There's the ranch The ranch Yeah but they did That's a sitcom Yeah but I still go back and watch I still go watch Seinfeld and Raymond Right but do you watch it I watch Seinfeld every day.

[937] What is that donuts thing?

[938] What the fuck is that?

[939] I don't know where all these are coming up.

[940] Superior Donuts, 2017.

[941] Get the fuck out of here.

[942] Judd Hirsch.

[943] There's some of those shows that's like, where did that go?

[944] It's like the Miss Pat show, not a multi -cam show?

[945] Yes, that's a very good show.

[946] Miss Pat show is a very good show.

[947] That is fucking funny.

[948] And I was like when Miss Pat was saying she was going to do a sitcom, I'm like, God, damn it, she's so raw.

[949] Have you ever done a podcast with her?

[950] No. One of the funniest fucking human beings that's ever lived.

[951] She's so funny.

[952] And her story is so crazy.

[953] She was pregnant at 14 with a crack dealer's baby.

[954] Like she was selling crack.

[955] Like she's been, she shot, got one of her nipples shot off.

[956] Like she's crazy.

[957] And she's hilarious.

[958] And they nailed it.

[959] They figured out how to cap.

[960] But they also did it on streaming where, you know, it's on BET Plus, right?

[961] Yeah.

[962] And I think it's on something else now too.

[963] Yeah.

[964] I just saw it to us.

[965] I don't know exactly what it was.

[966] Isn't it on Paramount?

[967] I don't know.

[968] It's on something else.

[969] But find out what it's on.

[970] Checking.

[971] That's last year.

[972] It's renewed for a second season.

[973] This is last year.

[974] That's where standups thrive in a multi -in -a -com.

[975] Because there's an audience.

[976] She's so powerful, man. She's such a powerful performer.

[977] And it's just like, you know, she's funny too, man. There was like this one girl that was on stage at the comedy store one night.

[978] And, you know, she was kind of like half -ass on her set.

[979] And Miss Pat was angry.

[980] She's like, this big.

[981] She's out there fucking barely even fucking trying.

[982] What the fuck is she doing?

[983] Get that fuck off that state.

[984] She was like legitimate.

[985] Like she's such a force when she gets on stage and she goes for it.

[986] She had a hard life.

[987] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[988] So when she sees someone like lazy, she gets crazy.

[989] It was kind of hilarious.

[990] That's a thing that's filtered into, it's nice to, like, you see that Miss Pat energy where you're like, yeah, this is a show.

[991] Yes.

[992] Whatever you think the con, like if you're like, well, we're at the, The comment store we're working out.

[993] You're like, they audience paid, and they're spending a lot of money to come out.

[994] Right.

[995] This is not, I'm sorry you're not at Madison Square Garden at the moment, but this is, like, when is it enough that you go and, like, do your act?

[996] And go do, and, like, actually, you know, I don't know.

[997] She got a season three.

[998] Look at that.

[999] But it is on somewhere else, too, right?

[1000] It is available a few other places, but this was the news.

[1001] She got, she got, like, a bigger deal with BET to do more stuff.

[1002] just this.

[1003] Comics are good at scripted show.

[1004] All the ones I'm talking about, they're all comedians.

[1005] Yes.

[1006] And there's your proof that I think, people still want this, because it's something that you can put on and it's not this full on.

[1007] Every show can't be like this whole thing.

[1008] When you want to watch something, you're like, I love Narcos, but I haven't watched the last season because you're just like, I don't, I mean, I love it so much, but you're like, I can't do it.

[1009] can't dive into 10 hours of just this again murder murder like it's and I got to follow everything then I'm like who's that guy and you're like I can't and then so I watch Seinfeld or like I just watch something that now I'm watching old movies or uh all this kind of stuff that you're like I can kind of mindlessly kind of watch I don't feel like I have to be too involved in it because it's too much it's too there's and there's too much of it that you end up going, that's why they, I believe, like, the office and, like, these shows are the most popular shows on these streaming, because people are like, I just want to, like, just veg.

[1010] Yes.

[1011] Yeah, people like to do something that's, like, simple and that takes them away.

[1012] I said that I was watching with my family during the pandemic.

[1013] We were watching that Ali Wong show.

[1014] There's a show that Ali Wong is, like, one of this girl's neighbors.

[1015] She's like, this overweight mom.

[1016] And there's the guy who's the husband who's, like, a professor.

[1017] and it was like a simple sort of sitcomy pretty funny I could watch it you know with my 10 year old and we could laugh you know it was like nothing too crazy it's like uh it's like it's a vibe right like a sitcom vibe yeah you got think tgif when that was on that was about you and your family going around and watching tv and watch all it Friday night thank god it's Friday yeah stuff for families I feel like a lot of TV now can separate even the wife and the husband It's, you know, my wife watches all the housewife shows.

[1018] Right.

[1019] And then I'm watching, you know, narcos.

[1020] Murder.

[1021] Yeah, like just, and she's watching shows how to murder me. And then, uh, galvan she watches all that.

[1022] Like, how do women watch those fucking shows?

[1023] Just an out, for an out, but they can figure, like, the one day, they go and when it finally gets to it.

[1024] But they, they like watching, like, murder shows and murder mystery shows where it's, like, real crime, like, where they're talking about, like, serial killers.

[1025] It's like mostly women watching those.

[1026] Do you think they're trying to understand, like, what makes a male murderer?

[1027] Is that what it is?

[1028] Because they're not that.

[1029] I feel like they're nosy.

[1030] They can't even let Assyrico live his own life.

[1031] He's like, I'm just trying to do my killings in peace.

[1032] Yeah, I walked in.

[1033] My wife, my daughter were watching this fucking documentary on that Richard Ramirez guy.

[1034] I think they're, like, watching.

[1035] I can get in moods where I want to watch that stuff but I couldn't watch it every day my wife records Dr. Phil People's Court we still have DirecTV I have 150 people's court it's all her on the DVR and it's like she watches like that those are what she'll watch like kind of I guess Dr. Phil's still on yeah yeah and so she watched Dr. Phil and then People's Court and then she'll watch that kind of stuff I'm really good friends with Dr. Phil's son.

[1036] Oh, really?

[1037] Yeah, we're buddies.

[1038] We parted together.

[1039] Hung out together.

[1040] Going vacations, our families together.

[1041] Yeah.

[1042] He's the best.

[1043] He's a great guy.

[1044] He's like, I always thought that, like, if you were the son of someone famous, you had to be fucked.

[1045] He's so normal.

[1046] Normal.

[1047] He's a fucking super great guy.

[1048] I heard Dr. Phil's cool, too.

[1049] He's the best.

[1050] I had him in here.

[1051] He was so fun.

[1052] He was hilarious.

[1053] Yeah.

[1054] I asked him about the Cash Me Outside Girl because, like, he made her famous.

[1055] He's a fucking character.

[1056] Isn't she, like, a real business now?

[1057] bro she's um she's richer than me that bitch is that bitch is bawling out of control she made like a hundred million dollars off of only fans showing her asshole how much did she make something crazy on only fans that's insane like she'd be like the number one earner on only fans what is she doing yeah she posted the receipts if you will let me see let me see these receipts look at this bad baby posts receipts to prove her fifty million dollar only fans earnings look what the fuck man she took a little video showing her in the app behind, like the behind the scenes that only she could see that shows her like revenue.

[1058] That's wild.

[1059] Jesus Christ.

[1060] That's how much she's getting for a month.

[1061] April, $7 million.

[1062] That's $100 ,000, I think.

[1063] $700 ,000?

[1064] Oh, $700 ,000 for April.

[1065] That's incredible.

[1066] I mean, that's, is that $10 million or that's it?

[1067] Yeah, that's a million.

[1068] There's a period there.

[1069] There's no comments.

[1070] Oh, okay, there's no comments.

[1071] So that's one million.

[1072] That's getting higher and high.

[1073] $2 .39 million a day?

[1074] I don't know how to read.

[1075] Three million down there.

[1076] August, she made $2 million in August.

[1077] $3 million in July.

[1078] $4 .6 in June.

[1079] That's crazy.

[1080] She's bawling.

[1081] And what is she doing on there?

[1082] We should join.

[1083] Can we join?

[1084] Why don't we join OnlyFans just to see her?

[1085] Go do it on your computer.

[1086] Go ahead, do it.

[1087] There's better ways to spend money.

[1088] How much does it cost?

[1089] It turns out you can look up most of the stuff online.

[1090] Oh, you know we read it It was 4chan I've heard I've heard What do you mean you've heard You've seen it I looked Stop lying I wouldn't do that You do I don't know what 4chan is Really?

[1091] Yeah I've heard I've heard about it I hear people say it Stay pure Nate Yeah Stay off it Is it a Reddit?

[1092] No It's like Reddit on Adderall Plus Very little restrictions Yeah It's wild people Wild people stuck in cubicles that make the most ruthless and funny memes, and they say ridiculous shit, and they almost cause the insurrection of the Capitol.

[1093] I mean, that's really what it is.

[1094] I mean, that's the highlight of that film, or the documentary series, Into the Storm, about QAnon.

[1095] You aware of all, you know what that is?

[1096] Yeah.

[1097] I mean, so, you know.

[1098] Did you ever watch that documentary, the HBO thing?

[1099] It's very interesting.

[1100] It's called Into the Storm.

[1101] And it's all about these people that get duped by these people pretending to be insiders in the Trump administration and saying how they're going to take down all the pedophiles.

[1102] And, you know, Trump is running some secret covert operation and he's going to bring down the swamp.

[1103] And they all bought into it hook, line and sinker.

[1104] And it leads up to the January 6th insurrection.

[1105] It's pretty fucking wild.

[1106] Wow.

[1107] But it all starts on 4chan.

[1108] 4chan then 8chan and then was the other one 8 kuhn is that what it was yeah yeah that sounds right there's a lot of them i went in there the other day i went in one of them i think it was 4chan the other day i just let me see what these psychos are up to it's just fucking it's madness man because they're all anonymous everyone's anonymous right so you could post like the wildest shit and they're it's basically shit posting and they're saying things to try to be the most outrageous and try to freak each other out.

[1109] It's freedom, right?

[1110] It's like, it's not real life.

[1111] It's anonymous.

[1112] It's not even your name.

[1113] It's like numbers, right?

[1114] Like, who are you?

[1115] Who knows?

[1116] Say some crazy shit.

[1117] So it's like people that fucking hate their job as insurance salesman and they'll just type wild shit.

[1118] So here's 4chan right now.

[1119] 4chan is a simple image -based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images.

[1120] So let's find something in there.

[1121] Go to, yeah, careful.

[1122] something controversial let's get go with controversial creative other business finance travel LBGT pony random I mean is everything controversial in here Adult it can be yeah yeah super It's like what would be like a good thing to check into That's like extreme politically incorrect Bam let's go to that one Politically incorrect Accept you have to accept comply with the rules I like how it says rules in quotes because there's very few fucking rules the rules of 4chan which are also linked in the home page okay was it what kind of crazy show these people posted what are they talking about mass shootings fire festival pension for wearing your mother's clothes perhaps or have you gone straight to walk yeah see like whacking off to old school photos of your classmates like see like everyone is anonymous right so they're all just like type in wild shit and scroll down lower it's it's when if you had like it's mostly young men older men with no families that's our housewives yeah is uh these man i bet there's some fucking housewives in there too but i think it's no i'm saying that's what like our wife watch housewives and then oh right their husbands are there yeah i see i think it's mostly disenchanted people and they're they're attracted to this idea that they're completely anonymous and then they could just like have this community of people who are faceless nameless and they just talk wild shit to each other that's wild yeah i don't yeah i don't know why i mean i guess that appeals i guess you're going to be appealed to it more and more as the younger like as you grow up in this world well i think for people it's it's a way to communicate without any boundaries without completely being uncensored and without any repercussions because they're uncensored but there are repercussions like i remember there's this one guy that was posted a bunch of wild shit awful shit on 4chan and then people found out who he was and he got fired from his job and he was and he was just a normal guy and his his take was like hey that's not really me this is like i'm almost like playing a character like this is like fantasy for me it's fun like just because i wrote those things those are not my real thoughts and they're like get the fuck out of our office yeah like they just fired them which is interesting right because like he's not because if you wrote a movie right and and did all that he could win an Oscar right right like you can have a movie where it's a celebrated movie where a man beats a woman to death like once upon a time in Hollywood like spoiler alert there's a scene in there where Brad Pitt beats a woman to death on a fireplace smashes her head it's fucking wild but like if you talked about that on stage like people would be like what the fuck is wrong with you you know if you wrote wrote that in a post on 4chan And then, you know, your employer found out about it, you get fired, which is very strange.

[1123] Yeah, I think, now that I'm thinking about it, I think the guy might have done something really shitty.

[1124] I think he might have docked someone or something, and then they got rid of them.

[1125] But it's just people think that that's, you know, you have like an opportunity to just be free of expectations, you know, because like, oh, you're Mike, you know, the fucking general manager.

[1126] of the fucking muffler shop but meanwhile you're on 4chan posting pictures of giant black dicks and fucking wild shit you know but it's but could they get rid of that with like if everybody had to have their real name on online or something like that?

[1127] It would ruin everything yeah it would ruin that kind of community yeah because that's not really real life I mean maybe some of those people have those real thoughts maybe some of those people are just you know playing like they're having fun pretending to be complete fucking assholes and then mixed in are real sociopaths real psychos who gravitate towards this and they're trying to find like the most disturbing images of mass murder and throw those up too yeah so would you think there ever be a phase where you have to like you have like online real identity or is that good I think that will probably come about when there's No more privacy, which I think is on the way.

[1128] I think privacy is, I think privacy is going to go out the window.

[1129] I think that is the general direction where online life and technology are headed to the point where everyone has access to almost everything.

[1130] If it's on, you know, if you're doing it online, I think everyone's going to have access to it.

[1131] And it's going to be very difficult to hide behind, like, fake identities and things like that like that stuff you know it's like I feel like the older you get to like you start thinking like you're seeing people like you don't want to live in a city you want to live like away from you know like land like you want to buy you know I think about that more now like you're just like I want to buy some land somewhere well that's you want peace yeah you get older you're just like what am I doing it is that is yeah this is all fucking stupid I want to wake up and hear birds chirping yeah Yeah, and you see, like, you can see somewhere like 70, you're like, I don't care about anything.

[1132] And you're like, I get how you would be there.

[1133] Yeah.

[1134] Because you just stop caring.

[1135] Well, you just get overwhelmed by external information and you don't want it anymore.

[1136] And you get to put, you know what I'd like?

[1137] I'd like to go out in a fucking, just a field and have lunch.

[1138] Yeah.

[1139] Just sit there and have my lunch out there with birds chirping and shit and just relax.

[1140] Relax and don't be inundated by external information constantly, which is what most of us are, especially if you're on your phone all day.

[1141] You're just inundated with external information.

[1142] Nonstop.

[1143] Nonstop.

[1144] I've cut out most of that in my life and it's made a significant impact.

[1145] You know, initially I stopped on Twitter because I was realizing that it's just making me, it was disturbing me, like it was bothering me. And there's like so many hateful people, so many angry people.

[1146] I'm like, I don't like this.

[1147] And I don't think like this is like genuinely constructive.

[1148] I don't think they're getting anything done.

[1149] It just seems like they're just like monkeys throwing shit at each other.

[1150] I'm like, this is a terrible environment to like have your mind exposed to.

[1151] And so when I stopped doing that, it helped me tremendously.

[1152] It was like a giant weight lifted off my show.

[1153] First thing I stopped doing is reading my own mentions.

[1154] Like years ago, I stopped reading things that people were writing about me. and that was nice I stopped reading comments on YouTube that was nice and then I stopped reading people like occasionally I'll go into Twitter like once or twice a day just to say like what's the zoo look like oh look monkey's throwing shit and then I just get out of there but it's not it only is a healthy environment you know it's just there's so much you know you did this and you said that and fuck you and you should go to jail and we should try him for treason and this person should fucking and just like isn't there more to life it's not balanced but i think there's there if you it's almost like the the people on that world we've given them the keys to the city and you're like that's that's nobody nobody's that's literally a small tiny group of people that are just living this world the majority of them are just like when you go do live shows and you're like yeah dude people are just going out people just going out shows and they love shows and they have fun and And whatever city that you think could be left or right or whatever it is, the crowds are awesome and they're excited to be there and it's just fun.

[1155] And then it's the acknowledgement of like, but all these people are saying all this.

[1156] You're like, it doesn't matter what they're saying.

[1157] That's, that website's saying that.

[1158] So don't go look at that website.

[1159] It's not even remotely.

[1160] You couldn't even go, I would go walk and randomly find people.

[1161] Well, we found one last night.

[1162] That lady yelled at Tony.

[1163] Yeah, they get sucked in.

[1164] And so it's not that they don't exist, but you've got to think that's one person out of all those people.

[1165] Right.

[1166] Well, that's representative, right?

[1167] Because that's one person out of 270 people.

[1168] And so that's pretty normal.

[1169] But if you get the whole country, that's millions of people.

[1170] Like if you have one out of, you know, one out of 100, and then you have 300 million people, you've got three million fucking crazy people.

[1171] And if they're on social media and they're complaining on Facebook and you read their fucking post like, Oh, you'll think this is the whole world, but this is a small percentage of people who are perpetually outraged and who engage in recreational outrage.

[1172] Like that is part of the way they spend their day as being upset about things all day long.

[1173] It's not constructive, it's not good for you.

[1174] I think it's very bad for your anxiety and your psyche.

[1175] Oh, yeah.

[1176] It's a shit way to communicate.

[1177] Because even if you were talking to a person, I firmly believe that if you were talking to a person that you really disagreed with, but you are civil and calm and peaceful, and you talk to them in like a normal way, you could probably avoid any kind of, like, name calling and shit.

[1178] It's things that people do when they don't see your face, they're not looking at you, they don't feel bad if they insult you, and they just do it like they're just sending a fucking carrier pigeon off with this shitty note, and not knowing who's going to receive it or how it's going to affect them.

[1179] Imagine those old days, like you wrote something bad, I mean, because it would take a month, right, to get that pigeon.

[1180] You're like, the weekend, you're like, I shouldn't.

[1181] I hope he does.

[1182] I hope the pigeon dies.

[1183] I shouldn't have sent that.

[1184] We're about to start a war.

[1185] We'll send a hawk after that pigeon.

[1186] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1187] To get, that's their delete button.

[1188] They're like, God, I shouldn't have.

[1189] I wrote some crazy stuff last night.

[1190] That's Game of Thrones, right?

[1191] Send a raven.

[1192] Yeah, they would send a ravens.

[1193] Send a message.

[1194] Yeah.

[1195] That's how they get all their messages.

[1196] Yeah.

[1197] Go back to those days.

[1198] I don't think that's good either.

[1199] Well, you've seen people in the, like, I've started hiking.

[1200] Oh, yeah?

[1201] And, yeah, I've gotten pretty...

[1202] We went to Calgary, and we went up to Banff, and we started doing some big, long hikes, and it's just, like, crazy.

[1203] It's just, you're like, this is the greatest thing I've ever done.

[1204] Nature.

[1205] Yeah, it's the best.

[1206] Yeah.

[1207] It's the best.

[1208] It's cleansing.

[1209] It's the absolute, just seeing...

[1210] I like being outside.

[1211] Yeah.

[1212] And you just...

[1213] I like the idea of you're like, no one's...

[1214] I mean, most hikes, there's people on.

[1215] I want to go somewhere where, like, how do you go to where...

[1216] I want to go somewhere where you're, like, in the...

[1217] Like, there's no one around.

[1218] Right.

[1219] Like, I know, like, you're, like, hunting and stuff, right?

[1220] Like, you're going, like, out.

[1221] But it's, like, going to those places where you're like, you're just in it, dude.

[1222] This is...

[1223] This is the wild.

[1224] That's why, like, Bigfoot, like, where you're, like, there's so many places that we haven't even been to.

[1225] There's just too many places.

[1226] Is it real?

[1227] I do.

[1228] Really?

[1229] I just want, yeah, I want them to be real.

[1230] What do I care?

[1231] I went hunting for Bigfoot.

[1232] See, I would love that.

[1233] Me and Duncan Trussell went hunting for Bigfoot.

[1234] How'd there go?

[1235] It wasn't effective.

[1236] And one thing that found out, I had a bit about it, about one thing you find, one thing you don't find when you go looking for Bigfoot is black people.

[1237] You just find a bunch of unfuckable white dudes out there hunting for Bigfoot.

[1238] You're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are black people looking for Bigfoot.

[1239] like they have not bought into that nonsense it's just our thing it's an unfuckable white guy thing and this we were joking around about that with the guys who were out there doing they were laughing they were like yeah it's like i mean it's fun you know at the worst he goes this guy was like had a really good perspective on it you know he was he had a good sense of humor like we were joking with him he goes look worst case scenario you're just out camping yeah and it's awesome and it's fun and there's like seeing thing And there's a goal.

[1240] Best case scenario, the world changes.

[1241] Right, you find an actual Sasquatch.

[1242] And Earth is different.

[1243] Yes.

[1244] This thing, like, that's what I, like, so the idea of going out and being, not that I know how.

[1245] I talked about this in my podcast about bears, and I got, I mean, no one, I don't get mad, our podcast is stupid.

[1246] But it's, what is it called?

[1247] Nate Land.

[1248] It's just talking about being funny.

[1249] But I thought with, because I started watching all these bears stuff.

[1250] because there's a grizzly bear, like in Banff, they have a grizzly bear that comes down near the hotel.

[1251] I don't even been to Banff.

[1252] There's a hotel, like a Fairmont hotel, and a grizzly bear will come down by the hotel.

[1253] And there's so many people there.

[1254] And they watch it, and, like, it's got two cubs.

[1255] And, you know, it is what is.

[1256] Oh, yeah, it is.

[1257] But then I thought, we were talking about, like, running away from a, or if a bear attacks you, and I know you know how to do it.

[1258] but what if a bear's running at you you you juke it you know how they tell you but listen joe so the bear it's coming quick and then you go hey bear uh and then go the other way his momentum you know what he does falls forward and because he's dumb nope he turns and he catches you because he's used to doing that with deer that are a lot faster than you that's true uh you know what get you ever seen a bear run full clip uh yeah yeah yeah you have no idea Kobe Bryant jumped over a car He did That's Kobe Bryant And that's not you or me That's true The bear is But give him a nice You ever watch footage Is Barry Sanders?

[1259] Yes You don't think Barry Sanders Could juke a bear I know Barry Sanders All day long Nope No he'd be eaten We'd have one less Barry Sanders Just A bear doesn't know To watch your chest And so you watch your head They don't give a fuck.

[1260] You can't run.

[1261] But if one's coming at you, would you at least try to juke it?

[1262] I'd probably think what have I done that I'm out here with no gun and a bear?

[1263] That's what I would think.

[1264] That'd be my last thought.

[1265] You fucking dummy.

[1266] Yeah.

[1267] Why don't you have a gun on you?

[1268] Bigfoot.

[1269] Bigfoot.

[1270] Bigfoot guy, yeah.

[1271] Did you ever see Bobcat Goldthwaite's Bigfoot movie?

[1272] It's really good.

[1273] Oh, I would love to watch that.

[1274] Bobcat Goldweight made, I think it's something Creek.

[1275] are called?

[1276] Woodland, what is it?

[1277] Willow Creek?

[1278] Yeah.

[1279] It's a, like a Blair Witch Project type movie.

[1280] Oh.

[1281] About these guys who go, this guy and his girlfriend or wife go to try to find Bigfoot on the anniversary of the Patterson footage, which is like the most famous Bigfoot, fake Bigfoot footage but it's in they they film it like you know like they're doing like a a fun sort of documentary type thing and and then they have an encounter and it's good man it's good it's a horror movie yeah but it's like bobcat is a bad motherfucker he's a very underrated director you know he made um he made a couple really fucking good movies like uh there was one shakes the clown that was like about an alcoholic crazy clown that was really funny like really like dark movie and then he made another one about something America God bless America or something is that what it was it God bless America yeah that is another fucking wild crazy movie from 2011 he made a couple fucking really good movies man really underrated director but Willow Creek is my favorite it's fucking good and as a person who's been obsessed with Bigfoot his whole life I just, my parents took me camping once when I was like, like eight or something like that.

[1282] When we first moved to California, we went camping in the Redwoods, like out that area.

[1283] And I remember thinking, like, there could be something living out here.

[1284] I mean, there's just nothing.

[1285] I mean, no one's around there.

[1286] There's not enough people around there.

[1287] But the odds are it's not possible.

[1288] to hide something that big for that long that you'd find a body to find bones you'd find something yeah but you don't really find dead mountain lines like try finding a dead mountain line they die all the time well they have like in florida do they have pumas are very hard to see well they get hit by cars all the time before no no yeah they got like recently like a ton of them have been hit by cars like i think there was like uh like pumas are kind of endangered in florida which is really weird because they i think recently on like one in one month four Four of them got hit by cars.

[1289] See if you can find something about that.

[1290] Which they're like, what the fuck is going on?

[1291] Like, are there more of these than we thought?

[1292] Like, what is happening here?

[1293] Yeah, what are the odds of that?

[1294] Yeah.

[1295] But Pumas are, you know, an established animal.

[1296] To have like some crypto -zoological creature like Bigfoot that's undetected.

[1297] But it's fun.

[1298] It's fun.

[1299] I want to believe.

[1300] Yeah.

[1301] But I don't really.

[1302] Well, that's like in the ocean.

[1303] Like, they find some big.

[1304] fish down, you know, or some big whale, like extra, like something.

[1305] And you're like, I don't know, dude, we never knew who was down there.

[1306] The compelling, there's two.

[1307] Well, don't they think aliens could live in the ocean?

[1308] I mean, that's how much.

[1309] That was Jeremy Corbell was talking about that the other day, that they, you know, it's hard to say, like, what kind of information he's getting, how accurate it is.

[1310] But they're basically saying, think about the movie Abyss where the aliens lived underwater.

[1311] He was like, that's probably what's going on.

[1312] Yeah.

[1313] But there's some sort of alien base underwater or some sort of.

[1314] meeting place or that's where they hide that's where they go to be undetected do you think you're going to see it in your lifetime bigfoot or aliens aliens like uh you know where it's like oh we have to like talk to them now we have to interact with them there are there's a video that is impossible to ignore there's some things that are impossible to ignore and then there's eyewitness testimonies of people who are rock solid totally dependable like fighter pilots yeah who have seen some things.

[1315] Like the best examples, this guy, Commander David Fravor, who was off the coast of San Diego in 2004, and this is corroborated by multiple points of data.

[1316] They had this tracking system that tracks things above Earth's atmosphere, and they found this thing went from above 60 ,000 feet above sea level to 50 feet above sea level in less than a second.

[1317] They have no idea how it's doing this.

[1318] They have no idea.

[1319] There's no method of propulsion that's visible.

[1320] They followed this thing.

[1321] They locked onto it.

[1322] It blocked their radar.

[1323] It blocked their tracking systems rather.

[1324] And then it jetted off at an impossible rate of speed.

[1325] And then the Nimitz relocated this thing at their cat point.

[1326] The cat point is where the fighter pilots, when they're doing this test, they're doing this exercise.

[1327] They were supposed to meet at this very specific point.

[1328] And that's where this thing had gone, like this thing had read their manifest and knew, like, or read their plans and knew where they were going.

[1329] What's wild?

[1330] That is way more compelling to me than Bigfoot.

[1331] The Bigfoot thing is just fun, but the alien thing is fun and likely.

[1332] There's something going on.

[1333] And I go back and forth.

[1334] Sometimes I think it may be it's some sort of government drone that's like so sophisticated and they're, you know, it's totally top secret.

[1335] and if we ever go to war with China, that's when they're going to break it out.

[1336] And then sometimes I think what they are is something that's monitoring us and making sure we don't blow ourselves up, making sure that we make this journey from territorial apes with thermonuclear weapons into some sort of an advanced intergalactic society.

[1337] And that there's a very crucial moment where the instincts of these tribal people, which is all of us, all human beings, are these tribal territorial people, where you have to keep them from sabotaging any possible future progress by blowing themselves up, by killing each other, by...

[1338] What if we talk to them?

[1339] And then when you say that, they go, yeah, that was it.

[1340] Is that easy?

[1341] Like, not that easy, but, like, you just go, is that it?

[1342] They go, yeah.

[1343] That's about it.

[1344] We're trying to keep you guys from blowing yourselves up.

[1345] But maybe that's, like, the natural thing that you see.

[1346] Like when civilizations advance, like there's a very precarious moment where, like, they have the capability of blowing themselves up, but the reason and the logic to not do it, but they also have these instincts to control resources and take over territories.

[1347] They still have those instincts, but they have to bypass that.

[1348] They have to figure out how to, and so that's when aliens start circling and just keeping an eye on us.

[1349] Yeah.

[1350] That's the primary.

[1351] I mean, that's what you would hope, right, instead of, like, them attacking us.

[1352] Yes.

[1353] Because they didn't so.

[1354] I think if they were going to attack us, they would have already done it.

[1355] Like, if they really could do all those things, they could probably take out our power grid pretty easy.

[1356] Apparently, they're, the stories are that they're able to shut down nuclear launches and nuclear facilities, and that they do that.

[1357] And they hover over military bases and that they just shut everything down just to let you know, hey, bitch, you know, I can just flip that switch.

[1358] So, don't get too fucking squirrely out there.

[1359] That's so crazy thing that they, yeah.

[1360] Because I always think about it, if you did, if you lost everything, electricity, I mean, it just shuts everything down.

[1361] Yeah.

[1362] Then if everything gets shut down everywhere, then it's a rat.

[1363] Well, if we went out, if the power went out in this country for two weeks, it would be full, complete, total chaos.

[1364] All the work that's been done back to zero.

[1365] Back to very dangerous times because there'd be very little food within a few days.

[1366] if we had no refrigeration, no air conditioning, and no shipping, it would be very bad very quickly.

[1367] Like there'd be a few people living on ranches that know how to survive and a few people that, you know, know how to hunt and fish and have a good supply.

[1368] Yeah.

[1369] See, that's what makes me want to, you know, there's part of me that wants to go learn, A, how to survive.

[1370] Like, when you get into hiking, like getting into, and hiking I know is not surviving, but I've, started watching more stuff that lead, you know, that are, talk about surviving or people go hunting.

[1371] I watched, like, well, I was listening to bear attacks because I just got, like, once I heard about that grizzly bear, then I just go down, I just listen to only bear attacks.

[1372] I have several friends who've been attacked by bears.

[1373] Yeah, yeah, I listened to.

[1374] Steve Ronella?

[1375] Yeah, yeah, that's the one I listened to.

[1376] Remy Warren, Steve Rennel.

[1377] Should have, could have juked.

[1378] It was behind him.

[1379] No. But they, like those guys, but you see it.

[1380] when you start doing all that stuff and learning how to survive because you're like all right if everything goes because it is it's like the idea of being you're like you're just trusting that all this is going to turn on right and then if it doesn't it's not good and then you're going to and you're going to die and so it's like that like I've lately you're just like I'm nervous about I don't like this is out of my hands so I need to get something back and it's I was So that was, not compared to a stand -up comedy, but in a way, with stand -up was, like, at the beginning, like, you'd put all the focus on a comedy club.

[1381] I want to get past at this club.

[1382] And then you're like, I don't want this club to have all my cards.

[1383] Right.

[1384] And if this club decides not use me, and I've put 15 years in trying to do that, now I'm done.

[1385] And so you want, like, stuff spread out.

[1386] That's the problem with guys get a residency in, like, Vegas?

[1387] Yeah.

[1388] Like George Wallace, who's fucking hilarious.

[1389] George Wallace got a residency in Vegas when he was.

[1390] was like a top touring comic like he had a big name he had been on television a bunch of times and uh he got this residency in Vegas and he was there for a long fucking time and then he goes on the road now and it's not commensurate like his is uh audiences it's not at the level that they should be yeah and it's just because he spent so much time doing this residency instead of like being like brian regan or some of these other guys who tour of his massive following all over the country.

[1391] He doesn't have that anymore because he put all his eggs in that one basket.

[1392] Yeah.

[1393] That scares me. Yeah.

[1394] That scares me. You go do it maybe later.

[1395] That's like a move you make later.

[1396] The only guy I know does it is happy is Caratop.

[1397] He loves it.

[1398] Yeah.

[1399] But he does other gigs too.

[1400] He'll travel.

[1401] I think he has a place in Florida too.

[1402] So he goes down to Florida.

[1403] He'll do other gigs.

[1404] He'll do like casinos.

[1405] He'll do stuff like that too.

[1406] But he's happy and he does really well.

[1407] Yeah, I think I'm a big fan.

[1408] He's a great fucking guy, man. He's a great fucking guy, and he was a punchline for comics.

[1409] They shit all over him for years.

[1410] Yeah, I never understood it because it was...

[1411] I never understood it either.

[1412] It was like, no one, I never knew because you're like, well, who's doing that?

[1413] Like, you're acting...

[1414] People always think something's easy, so they always think, they do it the Larry the Cable guy or something.

[1415] They go, I'll go do that.

[1416] You're like, then go do it and make $50 million.

[1417] Right.

[1418] Go do that.

[1419] If it's that easy.

[1420] It's, you can't, to get to that level, there's something else.

[1421] Right.

[1422] And the work that they're putting in, it's beyond just like, ah, that's an easy way.

[1423] There's no easy way.

[1424] Well, Caratop told a story about Bill Hicks, because Bill Hicks used to shit on Caratop.

[1425] And he had this bit about, you know, Caratop.

[1426] That's like, for people who think Gallagher's too heady.

[1427] But it was just a joke And he met Carrot met Bill before he died And Bill came to see his show And Bill was sick And Caratop met He goes I thought you hated me He goes man I don't fucking hate you He goes I don't hate anybody man I'm sorry And like they had a moment Yeah And it was like just before Bill died And he said it was really cool Yeah But it was like It's just a joke Yeah it's just comedy man Yeah.

[1428] And it's just like it's a target.

[1429] It's an easy, it's a cultural like hot point.

[1430] Yeah.

[1431] Like here's this guy's got fucking balloon animals and he's, you know, holding up signs and shit.

[1432] But it's funny.

[1433] It's a sign in a weird way that Caratop, that's how successful you are.

[1434] Is that you are the one that is brought into this.

[1435] Right.

[1436] But I understand Caratop being it would, he would probably assume everybody hates him.

[1437] Well, I think.

[1438] And he's probably alone.

[1439] Yes.

[1440] He's an island.

[1441] Yeah.

[1442] I always refer to certain.

[1443] comics as an island because there's certain comics that aren't hanging out with other comics they're just on their own or they're touring on their own and maybe they have an opening act or maybe they use a local act to open for them but they don't have like a community and it's one of the things i try to enforce in these guys coming up i'm like man your community is everything it's so it's so important like whether it's the seller or the store or here in austin like it's like having a community of a bunch of like really good comics live in the area you get together do shows and laugh and joke around like that's so important for your psyche because there's not a lot of us out there this I mean real professional comedians that are really funny that you would want to pay to see how many of them are there I it's not a bunch I mean a couple hundred yeah in the world yeah you know I mean there might be you know 500 really good comics in the entire country like really solid headliners that could sell out a room in the country it might be 500 That could sell in a room?

[1444] Yeah.

[1445] I don't know.

[1446] 200?

[1447] $300?

[1448] $200?

[1449] To sell out, like to be a draw?

[1450] Yeah.

[1451] I mean, that's...

[1452] To be like a solid headliner.

[1453] Yeah.

[1454] Like, when you become a real professional comic, like, you can be a professional comic in the process.

[1455] Like, you're almost doing an apprenticeship.

[1456] You're a middle act.

[1457] You're a host.

[1458] You're kind of a professional comic, and then you're paying your bills.

[1459] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1460] Right, but you're not, like, headlining.

[1461] Yes.

[1462] Like, to get to the point where you're headlining and people come to see you, How many of them are those?

[1463] How many of those are there?

[1464] I bet it's got to be closer to the 200.

[1465] Yeah.

[1466] I guess you can go a little bit, you know, got to, uh, maybe it's more than 200.

[1467] I get probably that two to five in that range.

[1468] Let's get crazy and say it's a thousand.

[1469] It's eight.

[1470] Let's get crazy.

[1471] Let's go.

[1472] I thought they're the opposite, four.

[1473] Okay.

[1474] Let's get crazy.

[1475] A thousand.

[1476] That's out of 330 million.

[1477] Yeah.

[1478] That's nuts.

[1479] That's a, that's a rare group of humans.

[1480] and we've got to stick together.

[1481] Yeah, I love that.

[1482] I think that's, when I go on the road, I bring, I start, I have two openers, and it's, uh, it's all different ages of, you know, it's, our people, Mike Vic Young and I started with will come out with me some and like, uh, and then it's guys that are younger, Dustin, you know, Dustin Chavon that started with, uh, then guys that are younger.

[1483] And it's like you mix it up and you're, because you're, it's about the hang.

[1484] Yeah.

[1485] That, A, it's like nice to know what's going on.

[1486] the comedy world you kind of somewhat need to you're kind of you're aware of what's happening yeah so you're not just clueless and then to be around each other and just like making jokes and yeah like you know like being funny like you're being funny the whole time right we like we're going hiking now when i go hiking it's just being funny the whole time it's just jokes like last night in the green room how much were we laughing a ton because it's just being funny and you like that hang is what it's all about yes you just want to go sit there and just you trash each other you trash someone and then you're and it's and that's that's what people lost with that COVID they were not around that yeah and it was you realize like oh I gotta go be around this dude or I'm gonna lose everything and then people lose it when they leave you know New York had it when I like I was there it was so much but then you leave and you start touring you start headlining it's very easily to be like you could go oh I haven't seen anybody in months months yeah yeah it's just not it's not good for us and it it promotes this sort of alienation and these feelings of anxiety that I think got really ramped up during COVID with a lot of people, unfortunately.

[1487] You need to see someone, you need to be around people that see through you.

[1488] So, like, if you're being funny with your friends that are not comics, it's like, well, they know you're the comic and they're watching kind of a show.

[1489] You need to be funny with your friends that are a comic that are like, you're like, dude, well, you're the worst.

[1490] You know, and they see through, you're like, all right.

[1491] Like, why did you say that?

[1492] I'm generally not the funny person when I go out with, like, friends that aren't comics.

[1493] I just talk I just have fun My wife is way funnier than me Yeah Like when we go out Because my wife Like wants to make me laugh And wants to make other It's like her chance To do stand up Yeah Like she's always the one Who's like calling shit out And it's fun Yeah my wife's funny Like it is work like that Because you're You try to make jokes But then you're It's just a weird kind of thing And then with comics I think some of those jokes Can be too Harned at They're too harsh They can be too You know Why are you wearing that Yeah you could say that I started laughing, but you say that to some people, and they get, like, really fucked up.

[1494] Yeah.

[1495] They get really insecure.

[1496] Why would you say that?

[1497] And then the wife will send you an email.

[1498] I just want you to know that Claude was actually upset that you said that about his shirt.

[1499] I'm like, what cunt the fuck is wrong with Claude?

[1500] What's he talking about?

[1501] What's he?

[1502] I can imagine you getting an email from a wife.

[1503] You know that kind of shit happens?

[1504] I know.

[1505] I think it does, but I would be, if I got an email, like, I'm trying to think for my neighbors.

[1506] and we're friends with their neighbors if they emailed me I'd be like what are you doing dude right would you go knock on their door yeah apologize because I don't think I don't know about but a comic we would have to address it right we would have to go well I got to go I have to go fix this right solve it fix it I got you want them to know that you know like you don't want it to be this weird right kind of thing some people you have to leave it weird yeah because they just it never ends some people are just They're just perpetually...

[1507] But you don't think you would ever just eventually be like, why did you...

[1508] You already at dinner somewhere and, you know, you're like, I don't like your slippers.

[1509] He's just like, in seven months.

[1510] And they're like, what?

[1511] Some people are just fucking super sensitive, man. They just can't take joking around, and they don't joke around in their home.

[1512] I tend to want to go try to open that person up.

[1513] And I'm not saying to take jokes, but I would tend to side with that person in.

[1514] Right.

[1515] Like, you end up going like, all right, if this person doesn't like this then I'll be on her team and if someone goes at her or him I'll be on their team right you'll be the person I'll be with them I'll be with the other person yes yes so you want to make them because if you're like I know that they're going to be uncomfortable I feel like as a that's what as comics you just kind of you got to go to the underdog and you go like I'll be on outside with you right right just because every you're going to get teamed up on yeah and so I'll just be on your you know let's do it let's make it let's make it uncomfortable for everybody well it's also so many people have been told that their feelings are valid and it's important to validate someone's feelings but some feelings are stupid oh yeah some some of your over sensitivity is just ridiculous and well people like yeah being very open uh you know it's like you got talk about this stuff it's it is some of it's weird we're like i don't i'll just i'll just eat it up on the inside I don't need to go I don't need to go openly talk about stuff and you're like I'll just move on and then you...

[1516] Do you have to go on double date sometimes?

[1517] Yeah, but I mean I'm friends with every that goes.

[1518] It's not like set up your wife doesn't ever say you need to meet so -and -so's husband we'll all go on a double date and then you go and he's just boring as fuck and your wife winds up talking to her friend and you wind up talking to this husband you're like oh no and you're just stuck talking to dude why they're talking about purses and shit and you're just stuck talking to this dude about nonsense and you're like oh no yeah it's I I have had that happen and then but it's like if you can't find one thing to connect with them right like where you're sitting there like you know it's like sports and then you're like all right no sports and then you're like what about the and you're just trying to right you're like dude I'm a comedian I can talk about anything right if I can't find if you don't if you're not giving me anything right maybe talk about that to them to go why What is your problem?

[1519] How come I can't talk to you?

[1520] How come, do you ever hear that from people, dude?

[1521] Maybe it's you, bro.

[1522] Maybe it's you.

[1523] I want to open you up, dude.

[1524] If you take it to that, I'm going to spend the night tonight.

[1525] Go that far as to spend the night.

[1526] But then you can be pleasantly surprised, you know.

[1527] Oh, when a dude's the best.

[1528] Yeah.

[1529] And you're like, well, you're the greatest thing I've ever been.

[1530] Yeah.

[1531] Oh, there's nothing better than that.

[1532] It's hard to make friends.

[1533] That's, like, Dr. Phil's son.

[1534] Dr. Phil's son is married to one of my wife's friends.

[1535] And I was like, I'll meet this fucking dude.

[1536] Yeah.

[1537] Well, he's probably going to be some crazy Hollywood guy.

[1538] Normalist guy ever.

[1539] Yeah.

[1540] That is, that's very...

[1541] Oh, I was fucking...

[1542] It's very satisfying when it's like that, because it's...

[1543] You know, I've learned...

[1544] You know, like, you end up...

[1545] You're starting to meet, like, you meet famous people, or you...

[1546] And, like, you start thinking about it, you're like, this is going to be a whole thing.

[1547] Like, I got a...

[1548] You know, yeah, you're great.

[1549] Like, all...

[1550] You know, and you just end up sometimes being like, I would rather just not meet them because I just don't want to, I don't, it's just going to be a lot.

[1551] But then you can meet some, and they, like, pleasantly surprised you.

[1552] It's the best.

[1553] It's worth the risk.

[1554] Like, I've met some famous people, and it's, like, weird when you meet them, like, you're, like, uncomfortable.

[1555] You feel strange.

[1556] And then you go, oh, you're just a person.

[1557] You're just a person like me. You just are a movie star.

[1558] Like, Matthew McConaughey is a great example.

[1559] I've had dinner with Matthew McConaughey and his wife and my wife and he's so nice He's so interesting and he's so genuine like a genuine guy Yeah, and you know, I'm like oh you're fucking just a super movie star famous guy, but you're fucking a regular guy Underneath all that crazyness see I think I wish that would get out more like that like some of those Yeah the stars is like it needs to be You're just hanging out he's done podcast before yeah he seems like that he's not saying you know yeah Robert Donnie Jr .'s another one fucking great guy man he sit and talk to him like he's like Robert Donnie Jr. is interesting too because that's a guy went to jail like he went to he had a serious drug problem got arrested did time you know and did a couple of years and got out of jail and he's just like on the path now he's fucking iron man he's got his shit together he's super successful like very disciplined does martial arts eat well, healthy, and it's just like, you know, they exist, you know, they're just humans.

[1560] And that's the problem with, like, lofty positions, like positions of extreme adulation, like we were talking about with Ellen.

[1561] Like, you can get lost in that, when you're not like anybody else.

[1562] You're just, you're this island all alone.

[1563] You see how it can happen.

[1564] And, like, you see it, like us going on the road.

[1565] You're not in a reality.

[1566] Right.

[1567] Like, you can tell, you know, sometimes you go to venues and you can, like, you see, like, I feel like you walk by people that work there and they're not, like, looking at you.

[1568] And you're like, is someone tell you not to look at it?

[1569] Like, this is insane.

[1570] Like, you're, like, I didn't, I've never said anything.

[1571] I mean, you go talk to everybody because you're like, yeah, we're all working tonight.

[1572] You know, I get the idea, but you're, of me being on stage.

[1573] But you can feel that, like, sometimes you're here, you know, it's like, yeah.

[1574] They don't, like, I don't know, you can see someone, if you have a conversation or something, you don't, like, they can just, like, ignore them.

[1575] Yeah.

[1576] Like, if someone gets to me, you're like, how do you even feel, how do you even feel like that?

[1577] How are you doing that?

[1578] How do you just go, that person doesn't exist?

[1579] Right.

[1580] And they're like, well, they just said something.

[1581] You don't look and go, like, oh, yeah.

[1582] You don't try to, like, even if you don't, you just get out of the conversation, like, have that awkward moment.

[1583] Yeah, Dan Soder told the story on the podcast about doing that at a comedy club and Chris Rockley.

[1584] completely ignored him and he was like fuck that guy he just got up like fuck you and he got up from the table and walked away yeah and now like you talked to dan soda he's like fuck chris rock oh he does dance he's my best friends he's great he's great i fucking love that he's great but genuine like he's right there he's that dude he's that dude i know his mom trish i go he's the best but that's that thing where someone who is at a higher echelon of success will only associate with people that are in that range or that he thinks should associate with him.

[1585] You know, I don't, he's never been like that with me. I don't know what Chris is like with other people.

[1586] I've been around him.

[1587] I like, I told Dan, Dan knows it, but I like Chris.

[1588] He probably had an awkward moment.

[1589] Well, I understand there's, yeah, I understand you can meet people in different kind of, there was a time I didn't like Louis C. Gay, like, I thought he was, like, mean to me at Carolines.

[1590] Yeah, I, when I opened form at Carolina, lines a long time ago and uh he was louis and he was doing a charity thing for like his kids and i remember i did a joke i just i like i'm opening for me i just did i do 15 minutes or whatever and then i bring him up and then i uh set a joke uh and i think he made fun of my joke when i got off and i mean it was like in the moment just being a young comic and being like dude like they're all here you're famous i'm just like i'm nobody right like who cares like about about my joke and then it was like that was annoying to me and I was I would be real mad about him then I talked to him much later and it was like oh this guy was he was different and nicer and then it's like now I've talked to him and like it's like well he's better or he's I mean maybe he's gotten worse than I got my personal relationship you're successful now yes like you're established because some of that becomes where you're like yeah I don't know like yeah what's he supposed to do well there's that awkward moment when you know you first meet someone where you don't know if they're going to be cool it's like you don't yeah and i can take something way more personally when i'm a younger comic and i'm so sensitive to everything at that moment right so i don't even i couldn't even tell you if i really think back on it like i you know it's like what is it what is it really matter it could have been like he's making a joke and we he's right you know just busting and we're just like all right i'm fun time like you know and i take it as like are you good at me right i'm i running my whole life to do this Well, it's also, it's like he's so important.

[1591] So if he makes fun of you, you know, if you go on stage and Jamie Fox is on after you, and he makes fun of you, like, no. Yeah.

[1592] No. And Jamie's like, I'm just like a comic, dude.

[1593] I'm just like, yeah.

[1594] I followed you.

[1595] You were, you murdered and like, so I just made a joke about it.

[1596] And then I moved on.

[1597] Yeah.

[1598] And you just take it like, oh, no. Because you're not friends with them, so you don't, you can't trust it.

[1599] Right.

[1600] With, yeah, with, uh, I've opened for Chris and I went on the road with Chris.

[1601] So it's, I know soders, and I, but I understand where soders come over.

[1602] And that's like one of those you're like, yeah, dude, I would probably feel the, I mean, I felt the same way with Louis, I would feel the same way as soda feels.

[1603] Right.

[1604] And then I've been around Chris where you're like, I don't, I don't feel that.

[1605] And I feel like he's, he's a comic that wants to hang out.

[1606] And, like, I think he's a dude, that dude's been famous for so long, too, that, like, is, if you're in a circle.

[1607] Yeah.

[1608] I mean, I think he's, like, one of the best, if not the best ever.

[1609] Like, well, 100 % one of the best ever.

[1610] If you go back and watch bigger and blacker, you know, you, you know, you.

[1611] You go back and watch, bring the pain.

[1612] Those are fucking classic specials.

[1613] They're as good as anybody's ever done.

[1614] Those are two absolute rock solid, classic, all -time great stand -up comedy specials.

[1615] Yeah, it's crazy.

[1616] Undeniable.

[1617] But I liked it because it was like that was like when you were saying something and it was in the form of jokes.

[1618] So you're saying these big points and it's done in the form.

[1619] It's rapid.

[1620] Boom.

[1621] Yeah.

[1622] Boom, boom.

[1623] Like, that's what, that's why, that's why, to me, like, it's like, he is just, it's another planet.

[1624] Like, I mean, he's pacing the state.

[1625] Yeah, like, you can see him, like, even, like, he was on Letterman, when, like, the Letterman stuff with the women, and he went on Letterman and, like, he's like, what are you doing these girls?

[1626] And, like, starts yelling at, like, when Letterman got in trouble, the cheating on his wife or all that stuff, did he get in trouble right?

[1627] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1628] Like a long time ago.

[1629] And Chris went on.

[1630] And Chris was a guest and just talked about it.

[1631] I think it saved Letterman because it was just being talked about in the open.

[1632] Right, right.

[1633] And he went in, and I was like with Chris, you can see, like, he gets like a zone in his eyes where you can just tell, like, he's not even really looking at anybody.

[1634] It's just like...

[1635] Comedy.

[1636] Yeah, it's comedy.

[1637] He's in the groove.

[1638] He's in the groove of just, you know, an elephant walked in front of him, he would be like, I never saw it.

[1639] Like, it's just, his eyes are just like, you know, it's just paced.

[1640] He's really funny again right now.

[1641] That's what I've heard.

[1642] I saw him at the store before the whole Will Smith thing, and he was working out his material.

[1643] He was fucking good, man. He was really good, like classic Chris Rock shit.

[1644] Because, you know, went through a hard divorce, lost a shitload of money, and there's a lot of pain, and then came out of it.

[1645] And then on the other side of it, he's like, he's really good right now.

[1646] Yeah, I heard someone, someone told him about his hour now.

[1647] I heard it's great.

[1648] Yeah, well, I heard, first heard from my friend Eddie Bravo.

[1649] He saw him at the store and he texted me. He goes, brother, this guy is on fire right now.

[1650] He goes, he's so good right now.

[1651] I go, really?

[1652] He goes, you got to see him.

[1653] And I was there like a week later and I got a chance to watch the set.

[1654] It's nice to see.

[1655] It's because, you know, there's always that drop -off point with a lot of, like, great comics.

[1656] Like, they'll have a couple really good specials.

[1657] And then they'll have one that's, I don't know, not that good.

[1658] Yeah.

[1659] I'll have another one that's not that good.

[1660] And they're like, ooh, is he falling off?

[1661] I feel like you need to be an underdog.

[1662] Like you want, you almost, like, you want to have people doubt you.

[1663] Right.

[1664] And that's the whole beginning of comedy is you go on stage and this crowd doubts you.

[1665] So the very, your first time on stage is talking to 20 people that don't think you can do this.

[1666] Right.

[1667] So every time you go on stage is just proving something.

[1668] Right.

[1669] And then maybe you get too big to a point to where now they're there.

[1670] And if you're not aware of it, like they said, like the, like you said, like the self -audit, or if you're constantly just reminding yourself that you're not, like, almost, you hear me you're going to say, you're like, dude, I'm nobody.

[1671] I'm an idiot.

[1672] I don't think I know how to do comedy, to be honest.

[1673] Like, you think that all is, you know, like, once you tape an hour, you're like, I don't know how I could ever do it ever again.

[1674] I should quit, honestly, and get a regular job and probably is going to happen.

[1675] Like, you're just this panic of just all this stuff.

[1676] And so if you don't have that, then you can kind of get lost.

[1677] And then you're like, and that's where I think specials can get bad.

[1678] You're just cramming them out.

[1679] And you're like, oh, you may do one?

[1680] I'll do it tomorrow.

[1681] I'll go.

[1682] And you just are pounding them out.

[1683] And then you need that back to like, and almost like with, not saying Chris was at that point, but like the resurgence of now he's a true.

[1684] He had that happen at the Oscars.

[1685] So now everybody's going to be like expecting a lot from him.

[1686] If he comes and does something whatever, it's like, I mean, he's.

[1687] I mean, it's not, there's no payback, there's no nothing, it's like, oh, dude, who cares?

[1688] Yeah.

[1689] But if he comes back with this next special and it's, it's, it's what I'm hearing, it's supposed to be, it's going to be.

[1690] It's right back where he was at his best.

[1691] Oh.

[1692] When I saw him, he was killing.

[1693] I mean, killing.

[1694] And, you know, it was a drop -in set.

[1695] It wasn't, you know, it wasn't announced.

[1696] You got to find that, I think you got to find that motivation.

[1697] Yes.

[1698] The motivation that makes you, you know, Sinbad said that, I remember reading a book.

[1699] He's talking about it.

[1700] he's like because it's hard to go you ride he was riding greyhound buses to shows and so sinbad's like laughing with the bus drive i mean he's just like the most funny he could be and then you're in limos or something and then everything kind of changes and you lose that that hang where you lose that perspective of like that kind of outside yeah world and you think like well i walked to my show and my coffee wasn't where i thought it was going to be and then and you're like well that's someone's job you're like you're like you're like do you go well all i do is ask for that to be right there i don't think that's crazy am i being crazy saying that i would like my coffee right on that stool when i walk past it you know and you you don't go what you know go get it dude go get it's across the street there's a starbucks walk over there go grab whatever you want to grab and you're like but i don't but people recognize me and stuff you're like no one's going to record just go over there and go do your dumb thing and like bring yourself back to like some kind of reality to go like, all right.

[1701] You can get insulated.

[1702] You get insulated.

[1703] Yeah, and when you're Chris Rock, how do you not get insulated?

[1704] Everywhere you go, everybody says, oh, that's Chris Rock.

[1705] Well, I mean, you're going to have that.

[1706] You have that now.

[1707] Like, with everywhere you go, it's obvious that you're going to, you know.

[1708] Yeah, but I'm, for whatever reason, I'm comfortable with it.

[1709] Yeah.

[1710] In some weird way.

[1711] Well, I think you're very open.

[1712] So it's also the, like, the Chris Rock are these, like before social media, I mean, you have a, now you're on a podcast, so everybody knows everything.

[1713] And you're talking about everything and you're and people know your uh persona and they know you're the way you say stuff and all this stuff uh but a lot of those celebrities those guys you didn't know who they were like tom cruise that's why i liked celebrities being the old way was like when you the only time you saw tom cruise was a movie right and i mean you still don't know if he's on so i don't think he's on social media but then you're like some of these like you know you see people and you're like yeah shouldn't be like watching this guy go to the grocery store like he's you know if Tom Hanks are like, they're just talking to you on Instagram.

[1714] You're like, yeah, go be Tom Hanks, dude.

[1715] I don't want to know what you're doing.

[1716] I want you to be this kind of like, I see you at this movie, and then I don't see you for three years.

[1717] And sometimes they step out of that and it ruins it.

[1718] It ruins it.

[1719] Remember when Tom Cruise went on, was it Good Morning America?

[1720] Oprah.

[1721] No, no, no, no. It was Good Morning America with, what the fuck is the name?

[1722] Matt Lauer.

[1723] Today Show.

[1724] Oh, yeah.

[1725] Today Show?

[1726] Today Show with Matt Lauer.

[1727] And he was talking about Brooke Shields and psychiatric medication.

[1728] And he was saying that it's not a chemical imbalance.

[1729] Like these drugs are dangerous, he's psychiatric drugs.

[1730] And, you know, it almost like ruined his fucking career because everybody's like, listen to this loon.

[1731] Yeah.

[1732] What the fuck is he saying?

[1733] And you're like, I just want to watch you in Top Gun.

[1734] Yeah, just go back to doing Mission Impossible, brother.

[1735] That's why I'm talking.

[1736] I like entertainers like it's it's going back to be entertainment go be the entertainment it's like don't and there's there's there's a mix right I'm not saying everything has to be entertainment but like everything can't be a message or it can't be you have to have that balance and you got to make movies that are going to be an escape and go be fun yeah and you know I think it's like I mean we were talking a little bit less it's like some of these like guys are these celebrities or these people in movies you're like they're in every movie there's like 12 of them right and you're like I mean is there no one else like is there no one else to make a movie but if you want to make a movie and you want it to be really successful you got to get one of those guys I don't but there's got to but those guys weren't those guys back when they were right but if you're bank rolling a movie the problem is if you're miramax and you're bank rolling a movie you need Brad Pitt I know but go fine like but they had to go find original talent a long time ago.

[1737] You can't go do that.

[1738] But if you go see Tom Cruise, it's going to be a blockbuster.

[1739] People will automatically go see a Tom Cruise movie.

[1740] He's a proven bona fide guy.

[1741] Like if he's in a film, you're going to go see it.

[1742] Yeah, yeah, I saw it.

[1743] But if he's doing that, do you not, like, that's what funds the, how to build the next generation of stars?

[1744] Yeah, but the next generation of stars are like his co -star.

[1745] Like, he always has, like, unknown co -stars.

[1746] They wind up being big successful movie stars.

[1747] that are they becoming big stars the co -stars sure that was that girl's name anna da armas she's she's getting huge now and she was like co -stars and things she was always like this co -star and now she's Marilyn Monroe and she's doing this other shit maybe I don't know what I'm talking about I don't think you know what you're talking about I don't know I have some good ideas Joe you have this idea you were pushing it last night that they should just retire it didn't work last night I thought let me try it in front of millions of people Clinties was 150 ,000 years old and he's still doing movies yeah but I just they're doing a lot I know but they keep going it's like every they're in everything dude you're like it's the same dude I'm not talking about Tom Cruise I mean Tom Hanks is in everything he's in everything and you're like don't like Daniel Day Lewis I don't know what that guy is alive anymore like that guy just goes off the planet yeah he stops doing films and he works as a cobbler yeah that's it makes shoes something great about that yes there's something great about that but what if you love acting and you want to go back and do it I mean, the thing is, like, we're looking at it.

[1748] Are they making Star?

[1749] Like, that's what I, it's like, I don't think the people are getting out of the way is what I'm saying.

[1750] I don't think people get out of the way.

[1751] I don't think they have their job.

[1752] Like, you're talking about, like, someone being the next, if they want to be, the next Jimmy Fallon or whatever they want to go be.

[1753] Like, someone that's, like, not saying they have to get out of the way now, but you're like, or do people get out of the way?

[1754] But why would they get out of the way?

[1755] But why are you looking at it that way?

[1756] Why aren't they just doing what they do?

[1757] And other people do what they do.

[1758] There's a lot of movies being made.

[1759] I don't think it's like a get out of the way thing.

[1760] I don't feel like they're mainstream, though.

[1761] I think mainstream stuff is not getting...

[1762] Yeah, but the mainstream stuff has to be funded.

[1763] It's like it's a business.

[1764] And this is like John Leguizamo made a post on Instagram the other day where he was talking about James Franco, because James Franco's playing Fidel Castro.

[1765] And he's saying he shouldn't be playing someone who's Latin American.

[1766] He's not Latin American.

[1767] And then, you know, there was people that were upset and said, actually he's half Portuguese, that's technically Latin.

[1768] He's like, no, we're talking about people from Latin America, like from that part of the country.

[1769] Like, you know, and then he was saying that people who are of Latino or Hispanic descent, they make up like a certain percentage of the population, but they don't have a certain percentage of the roles.

[1770] And he was saying, we should get more chances.

[1771] We should have more representation.

[1772] We should have more, like, because white actors do a film in a bond.

[1773] They get more chances and Latinos should get more chances and I see what he's saying I understand what he's saying he's right about the representation is right about the percentage of people and that the the films don't necessarily match up and whenever you have like it like was that Enkanto that animated it was is that what it's called and it was you know a Latino animated film was fantastic it was great and people loved it for both reasons they loved it because it was great and they also loved it because it represented a significant portion of the population.

[1774] But if you're a person making movies, you're not thinking that.

[1775] You're thinking, this is my money, and I'm trying to make money, okay?

[1776] We're in the business of making money in films.

[1777] And if I'm making a big -ass fucking giant movie, I need stars, and I need someone who sell, and if it's John Leguizama that sells all the time, or if it's fucking Brad Pitt that sells all the time, whoever the fuck that guy is, it sells all the time.

[1778] That's what they push.

[1779] They're doing it to try to make money, and because those people are really good.

[1780] It's not like there's anyone to...

[1781] Yeah, they're awesome.

[1782] It's not like anybody who keeps getting chances and they suck.

[1783] Yeah.

[1784] You know, it's just not real.

[1785] Like, they fall away.

[1786] Like many, many famous movie stars have fallen away.

[1787] It's these ones that people still love.

[1788] They'll go to see like Keanu Reeves.

[1789] He could do Matrix 7 and fucking John Wick 10, and people would still go to see it, right?

[1790] Because they love that guy.

[1791] Tom Cruise could do 100 Mission Impossibles.

[1792] People are going to go see it.

[1793] They love that guy.

[1794] I'll go see the next one.

[1795] But the rock can do the same thing.

[1796] The rock can do anything, right?

[1797] You can do anything.

[1798] It's about getting to that point, and I know it's not a fair business.

[1799] It's a weird fucking crazy business, and some people get chances, and some people don't.

[1800] That's part of the madness of it all that makes people so fucking nuts when they live there.

[1801] It's because they know that any audition could change their life, and they go in there, and these people get to decide, and here you're dealing with someone who's probably insecure in the first place.

[1802] They're seeking out an exorbitant amount of attention, and they're doing it probably because they have some sort of a psychological deficit.

[1803] that's most of us come from like some broken homes or some traumatic childhood most of us do and then you're you're you're trying to prove your worth to a bunch of people that are sitting there and this artificial environment where you're like reading off of a piece of paper it's fucking nuts and you leave you're like oh i hate myself like it's so anxiety and you don't it's like not proactive like you can do your best in the audition and hope it works out but you don't know what the fuck they're looking for and you're like your hopes and dreams are based on other people's opinions of you you're you're like your hopes and dreams are based on other people's opinions of you you you're you're you don't know you you.

[1804] And that causes people to start behaving in a way where they hope people will like them.

[1805] They'll say things that they think these people want to hear.

[1806] Instead of formulating your own opinions, you become like a half person.

[1807] Like half of you is a real person.

[1808] And half of you is like this performative shell of what you're supposed to say, what political ideas you're supposed to hold on to and to espouse.

[1809] And you get this weird fucking dynamic.

[1810] And some people achieve a skill.

[1811] Velocity, these Robert Downey Jr. guys, these Matthew McConaughey guys, who can kind of just be separated from it and trying to live a normal life and then go in there and make these crazy fucking blockbuster movies and then get the fuck out.

[1812] And there's only a few people that can do that.

[1813] Yeah.

[1814] That's just the nature of the chaos of that business.

[1815] But that doesn't, you know, that doesn't mean that James Franco shouldn't be able to play Fidel Castro.

[1816] Yeah, I don't think that does either.

[1817] I mean, it's fucking, it, what you can't, I mean, you can't, I come on we can't do that that's a I see what he's saying and maybe if there was like someone else that was like commensurate with James Franco and maybe there is maybe there's something someone else that was up for it that was actually Cuban didn't it doesn't it kind of look like him or something or kind of looks like him yeah kind of looks like him but if there was someone that was actually you know Cuban maybe that would be a better representation in terms of like how people like if you found out that someone was playing like a very like i'm italian if we found out what someone was playing like a very famous italian you know whether it was uh michelangelo or something like that and then they got some dude from holland to do it i guarantee you people in my family be like what the fuck is that yeah that guy's not italian yeah you know that's just i so i get where leg was almost coming from but i just wish it wasn't like that you know it just seems like I mean, there's egregious levels of it, right?

[1818] Like, the most egregious is like when John Wayne played Genghis Khan.

[1819] That's just ridiculous.

[1820] That's not cool.

[1821] But it was like he was John Wayne so he could play a fucking, not just a warlord, but one of the greatest warlords ever who came from a very specific part of the world.

[1822] He came from Mongolia.

[1823] He looked like a Mongolian.

[1824] And literally his DNA, he has.

[1825] had sex with so many women.

[1826] His DNA is like in some preposterous percentage of the Asian population.

[1827] Like something wild.

[1828] Like Genghis Khan's DNA and his children's DNA is in a significant percentage of the population.

[1829] Like what is Genghis Khan's DNA in?

[1830] Genghis Khan, there's a fantastic piece, I'm sorry I have to recommend this again, but it's that good.

[1831] A fantastic piece that Dan Carlin's hardcore history did.

[1832] It's called Rath of the Khan.

[1833] It's five hours.

[1834] on Gingas Khan, at least five hours.

[1835] Listen to this.

[1836] Since 2003, study found evidence that Gingens Khan's DNA is present in about 16 million men alive today.

[1837] The Mongolian ruler's genetic prowess has stood as an unparalleled accomplishment.

[1838] But he isn't the only man whose reproductive activity still show a significant genetic impact centuries later.

[1839] So there's other men that have two, but 10 other men who left genetic Let's see who the 10 dudes who spread their seed the best It's like Will Chamberlain Like it's random like Who is it?

[1840] Who are the people?

[1841] What do we got?

[1842] It's not a list?

[1843] Oh, this is just another Genghis Khan article Oh, it just says 10 other men So anyway Genghis Khan To have a white guy John Wayne Hey I'm Genghis Khan It is so ridiculous Have you ever watched it?

[1844] No You need to watch a clip right now We need to show you a clip right now Because it's the word This is the best argument Against cultural appropriation Like when you look at James Franco You look at Fidel Castro Portuguese versus Cuban It's not that crazy Right it's not that crazy Yeah and he's a great actor And you're like that's a good enough But if you look at John Wayne As Ging as Khan You're like fuck no If I was Mongolian I'd be furious I'd be furious That's people trying to get their money back We have a few Mongolian fighters In the UFC And they're particularly furious They're fucking awesome fighters That's a hard part of the world So for John Wayne You got to see how corny this shit is Susan Hayward Like look at her She was hot That was back when women were just hot No exercise No good diet Cigarettes alcohol Hot as fuck Nobody took care of themselves.

[1845] They were just hot.

[1846] They were hot for about 10 years.

[1847] Look at this.

[1848] It's so sexist.

[1849] Listen to him.

[1850] Look at this.

[1851] Oh.

[1852] Temogen.

[1853] Under his heel, the cowering nations in his arms the unconquered woman.

[1854] This is the trailer.

[1855] Yeah, yeah, play it.

[1856] I don't know if it has some talk.

[1857] Play it.

[1858] He's gonna talk.

[1859] Let it let it go.

[1860] This is so corny.

[1861] Oh, this is...

[1862] Tempted to barter an empire for a woman's love.

[1863] It's...

[1864] Having taken your favors, I refuse the favor you seek.

[1865] Then I would reveal your betrayal to Timitian.

[1866] Horses for me and my slave woman and safe conduct out of this camp.

[1867] This is so bad.

[1868] Yeah.

[1869] She gets slapped again.

[1870] How about the music?

[1871] Tempted woman.

[1872] Oh.

[1873] I mean, this is fucking.

[1874] Amazing.

[1875] This is the trailer?

[1876] Yeah.

[1877] Scene after scene of unimaginable splendor.

[1878] Barbaric passions.

[1879] How cordial is this?

[1880] Savage conquest.

[1881] But the thing is, man, why would we have such a realistic depiction of these things today when they weren't willing to do it in the 1960s?

[1882] Like why?

[1883] Why did they have like a bullshit version of history that they were putting in a film?

[1884] when we today would never accept that version.

[1885] Like if they tried to tell that as Genghis Khan story today, people would go, what the fuck are you talking about?

[1886] That's not how it went.

[1887] You can't have them behave like they're in a play.

[1888] Because you have internet.

[1889] Is that what it is?

[1890] Yeah.

[1891] How many people knew in 1956 what he looked like or anything really?

[1892] Right, but there had to be some historians that were consulted.

[1893] I don't think of Hollywood back then.

[1894] You only had the encyclopedia really for the longest time.

[1895] How do they know so much now, then?

[1896] Like, how do, they must have known.

[1897] Someone typed all of it in on the internet.

[1898] It's not as if, right, but I mean, there has to be, you know, like, if you ever, there's, is there a thing you do, like, do you play guitar or anything like that, where you watch someone faking it on TV?

[1899] Oh, uh.

[1900] It drives people nuts, right?

[1901] You're a musician.

[1902] You can play some music.

[1903] Okay, like, like, playing golf.

[1904] Like, you play golf.

[1905] You play golf a lot.

[1906] Jamie has a really good golf swing.

[1907] And it's, it's very impressive.

[1908] If you watch someone who did not have a really good golf swing and everyone was pretending, he has a really good golf swing, he'd be like, it'd be very obvious.

[1909] Yeah, yeah, sure.

[1910] But still, there's got to be a time period maybe in the, I don't know, 70s, 80s when they found a whole treasure trove of information.

[1911] Like, guess what?

[1912] You have to rewrite the history books on what we did.

[1913] I wonder when they did learn all that stuff, though, because it's just, I was saying historians watching that, my analogy was that historians watching that would be, They're like this is ridiculous like the people that actually know, but you could make a film where it was accurate because the the real story was so fucking crazy that you can make a depiction that would be terrifying the absolute 100 % proven real story was that guy killed 10 % of the population 10 % they do a carbon where they do like soil samples yeah they find out that during that time the the carbon level like people burning fires decreased at a significant measurable percentage because there was less humans.

[1914] That's wild.

[1915] They said he killed, they think they killed somewhere between 50 and 70 million people during his lifetime.

[1916] Yeah, I mean, if you knew that, then make that movie, it's a little different.

[1917] Dude, they were lighting corpses on fire and launching them with catapults onto people's houses to burn them down.

[1918] When they would siege a city, they would stay outside of the city for as long as it took.

[1919] For as long as it took, they would camp outside the city.

[1920] Thousands and thousands of Mongolians, just ready to kill.

[1921] And they were going to get in eventually.

[1922] And everyone knew they were going to get in eventually.

[1923] It's like, how much food do you have?

[1924] How long can you wait?

[1925] And they would keep bringing supply chains so they would always have food.

[1926] And they would just launch bodies.

[1927] And then they would capture people who flee And they would take those people And put them on the front of the line And march them forward Like a human shield And that's how they would get into some of the castles That's how they would get into some of the cities Maybe they didn't I feel like back then You're talking about the movie They had to know that though They had to like people know that now But they're like selling a story back then I know Like back then it's like about It's about the art versus now would be because there's documentaries and there's all these other things now it's got to be like well that's not really what happened is that what it is or did they just not know how to do it the way that we appreciate it now but even like the way they tell a story if you have those same cameras if you had actors and screenwriters of today they would make something better than that yeah I mean it was you know it's somewhat a new art you know it's like new art form that's what I'm saying I'm not like judging it in a negative way Like saying it sucks because, you know, at the time, it was probably awesome.

[1928] Oh, it was crazy.

[1929] But it's that the world has changed so much that if you wanted to have a Genghis Khan movie, first of all, you'd have to have a Mongolian guy play Genghis Khan.

[1930] You'd find some unknown actor.

[1931] I'm sure they're out there.

[1932] He does James Franco again.

[1933] He does good with this thing.

[1934] They go, I'll be honest you where to go with James Franco.

[1935] He just does.

[1936] Weren't War movies, probably, this is something I don't know.

[1937] I'm trying to make a guess.

[1938] like Apocalypse Now around then Like wouldn't that probably changed a lot of the filmmaking then like we have to be we have to be more Historically accurate now I think that's way earlier than Apocalypse Now No it is it's like 15th been that like 77ish Well Apocalypse Now was like a six or seven year film shoot So it's like 20 years 20 year gap in between those two movies we're talking about Lawrence Fishburn was like 16 when he was in Apocalypse now Wow yeah No wild that's crazy They did that film for yeah they did it for I think it was something really crazy like it was at least five years to film that went way over budget marlin brando gained weight and he didn't want to lose weight so they they filmed him in the dark so it's just like had like a dark robot and like you just see his face and part of the the lines they kept the film I'm pretty sure he improvised I guess he was more like uh I don't know if I know much about Marlon Brando but that was a guy I mean that guy is so faint like Oh my God Especially then when there's Your competition is only It's whatever is on the screen Yeah That's why could there be star You think stars could Like that super stardom Is could kind of go away With the fact there's just The competition is too much You can have people that are like I'm just not even into movies And then they watch And then you can go watch videos all day like YouTube and then you're like I don't even and you have no concept of this guy's the biggest start you know when you think about like celebrities now I can't ever tell if it's like older not celebrity but like actors and all this stuff and where you're like that person they say you know like that's the most famous person ever and you're like I've never even heard of them there's so many people now though in terms of like famous people there's way more famous people because there's internet famous people so that superstardom is like can it you know to sustain it people will get real quick real quick yeah I mean you remember Brendan Frazier yeah that guy was a huge movie star mm -hmm you don't seem in shit anymore I mean I think he's doing a comeback in some movie where he gets like really overweight some movie about some morbidly obese guy and I think he actually gained a lot of weight to play the role and he's in something else too but point is like that guy was a giant fucking movie star he was giant yeah yeah yeah he was in a lot of shit he was in the mummy remember me yeah he had a really hard run oh wow is that real or is that like is that really what he looks like the film is called the whale so i believe that's what it oh you mean like that gai yeah is that cg i don't think he got that big or a fat suit or something i think he got a little big well this is a different movie this is a tv show oh is a different movie and that says the whale so oh so that is what he looks like now yeah wow maybe that maybe he'll come back as like the best fat actor ever that kind of looks a little extra well he's at least a good i mean he's a legit actor the point is like that guy like the mummy was great that was a fun fucking movie he was great in a lot of movie no man yeah he was great in a lot of movies fun movies is it can go away it can go away but now it's like it's marlin brando wanted it to go away he bought a fucking island he had a bunch of uh native americans except his academy award for him remember that did you ever I know you should show that he um he had these uh this native american woman except his academy award he was just like out of like the business like just wanted to be done like he was like well he was a wild wild fellow put that on yeah that's it man here it is so it's roger moor and i don't know who the woman is malum brando and the godfather so this is for the fucking godfather okay and so instead of him.

[1939] Shasheen Little Feathers.

[1940] Shasheen Little Feathers, have I said it right?

[1941] She's going to accept his award.

[1942] She doesn't want the award.

[1943] Hello.

[1944] My name is Sashin Little Feather.

[1945] I'm Apache and I'm president of the National Native American Affirmative Image Committee.

[1946] I'm representing Marlon Brando this evening and he has asked me to tell you in a very long speech which I cannot share with you, President.

[1947] presently because of time.

[1948] But I will be glad to share with the press afterwards that he very regretfully cannot accept this very generous award.

[1949] And the reasons for this being are the treatment of American Indians today by the film industry, excuse me, and on television in movie reruns, and also with recent happenings at Woon underneath.

[1950] I beg at this time that I have not intruded upon this evening and that we will in the future, our hearts and our understandings will meet with love and generosity.

[1951] Thank you on behalf of Marlon Brando.

[1952] That's heavy.

[1953] How did she get it?

[1954] She had a 40 minutes standing ovation.

[1955] Like, think about...

[1956] They booed her too, though.

[1957] Did you hear that?

[1958] Yeah, yeah, but think about it now.

[1959] Oh my God.

[1960] It would be that is crazy because they did they booed her which felt like the the more mood of the crowd and the people were taking the chances with the people clapping that was agents guaranteed yeah that was some William Morris agents boo fuck you I'm doing coke some guy doing coke who just wanted the fucking award show to be over and a godfrey I mean to be that big of an award I know the biggest is one of the biggest movies ever it's one of the most classic films of all time 1973 yeah so you know this this Leguizamo thing I just want to say I think John Leguizamo was awesome I love him and everything he's great and everything there's not a knock on him it's just I just wish that wasn't an issue but I get it I do get it I do get how you I mean after what looking like especially the the Marlon Brando I mean John Wayne gangis Khan thing it's like fucking so preposterous it's just one of those things it's just like that business is fucking nuts it is nuts spending hundreds of millions of dollars do you know they just scrapped they made a bat girl movie and just scrapped it just threw it away right they decide they're not going to release it like what why would they not just release it like that's what I like how do you get to the point where you go I'd rather lose the money the argument was that it was made for streaming when everything started headed towards just streaming and now that they're back towards theatrical releases it's not maybe they think it won't make the money so they're not going to put it out I don't know what does that mean it won't make the money so they're not going to put it out I don't know I don't get their logic yeah is that coffee yeah some coffee son sorry accounting yeah I mean why would they do that why wouldn't they just like try to get it back unless it really sucks but yeah like I would then go sell it to streamers dude there's a whole thing Hollywood's got a whole business of just you got all this stuff that's not ever seen the light of day that if you put it out as like kind of like no pressure these pilots these movies I don't know and like people would go crazy about it well they must have thought that they could redo it that's the only thing that makes sense to me like they have one shot at making like this like awesome Batgirl movie they want to really nail it so let's try it again maybe that's maybe that's it because you got to realize those are billion -dollar franchises, right?

[1961] If you get a Batman franchise or an Avengers franchise, those are fucking guaranteed blockbusters.

[1962] I'm there.

[1963] I'm there for Avengers.

[1964] The Avengers come out or watch all those.

[1965] I fucking love them.

[1966] Warner Brothers cuts its losses by axing $90 million bat girl movie.

[1967] They spent $90 million and they're just going to toss it?

[1968] HBO Max went to...

[1969] But what if they had like some fucking wizard some like the cleaner from Pulp Fiction come in and explain things to them Like isn't it going to all be like that like where do you think Entertainment will be with You got Amazon you got Disney Plus I mean is it going to just be like you have those And then you're just picking Alla cart like you just You know like if you want a series you're following I guess a person I think the future is like a substack type situation where you subscribe to individual things that you want.

[1970] I think it's going to be more like that.

[1971] And it'll have to be more reasonable.

[1972] I mean, I think that makes a lot of sense.

[1973] But I think if I was a big corporation, I would do exactly what they're doing.

[1974] I mean, for their bottom line, just buy up everything, you know?

[1975] Like, didn't Disney just buy HBO?

[1976] Yeah.

[1977] Right?

[1978] So, like, they own everything.

[1979] They own ESPN.

[1980] Yeah.

[1981] They don't a lot of shit.

[1982] And, you know, there's a lot of companies that do that.

[1983] And it makes sense to me. I mean, if I was a company, but as, you know, someone who put stuff out, if I was a guy who made movies, I'd be a little concerned.

[1984] I'd be like, wow, there's, like, less people to bargain with.

[1985] Like, how many people are making movies?

[1986] What if it becomes, what if it becomes just, like, two giant movie studios?

[1987] Yeah.

[1988] You know, that's it.

[1989] It's the only way place you can get your movie made.

[1990] So, but that's where, so there was a, there's a show called The Chosen.

[1991] You heard of that?

[1992] No. And it's about the life of, it's about, it's about, Jesus that life Christ and the guys that I met the guys that like did this they were they're there this studio believe was behind they do you know dry bar comedy like that was clean it was like on faith the ones that is all clean and they've been on Facebook but this chosen that they made is got it's like through the roof how many people have watched this show what is it about Christ and it was Jesus I think it's through the perspective of the people you know most things are through Jesus's perspective and this is through the like people that are around theirs perspective.

[1993] I don't know a ton I've only seen I've only seen like a little I haven't got to watch the whole thing but it's got it the views of it I think you can buy it on Amazon now but they just made their own app and so they just went and they made an app called The Chosen and you went to that app and you watched that show and I believe it got I mean millions upon millions of views and it's a series and it was a very they did all the ad behind it they did all the very word of mouth but I think the ads and all that stuff behind it and they just started this they're just like that's their thing they're the chosen and then it was an app and you go watch that show there that's wild then do you think that speaks to an opportunity for anyone to do that with any kind of film or do you think that speaks to like a lack of representation of like Christian films I think it's I mean that helps but I think anyone can do it anyone could do it and that you gotta think that is being a film about crisis it's a very like uh you know i mean everybody's a lot of people are christians here like crazy about a christians so people do want to go see that and that's not and that could not be being shown but it also just shows you you know it's talking about specials and all this stuff where you could be like i you could go like i don't know if i go find an audience and this audience wants to do it like why don't you have i could have a neg bargettsey app and i'd I put my specials on there.

[1994] And you have a Joe Rogan app and you do the specials and then you do, maybe you're like, I want to write a TV show and shoot it with my friends.

[1995] Yeah.

[1996] And then that goes on there.

[1997] And you become your own studio.

[1998] Right.

[1999] And that's what the, I mean, the thing that keeps that from happening is it's very expensive to go shoot this stuff and to go do all this stuff.

[2000] But cameras and everything is, I mean, someone could probably shoot something with a phone.

[2001] No, they're 100 % could.

[2002] They've done films with phones, with iPhones.

[2003] They're so good now, man. And, you know, the other thing is the ability to stream from your phone onto a television is wild.

[2004] Easy.

[2005] You could watch anything and you can just press, you know, whatever you use.

[2006] You use the Google version, the Apple version, and bam, you're watching it on your television.

[2007] Like, it's perfect.

[2008] And it's even a better remote because you get to be like, you're like, uh, perfect.

[2009] You pause on your phone.

[2010] Yeah.

[2011] Yeah.

[2012] You can rewind it exactly to where you want it with your finger.

[2013] Yeah.

[2014] It's something.

[2015] The big business is going to have to compete with individuals because it's like if everybody starts figuring their own kind of.

[2016] thing out then it's like but if you want to have a bunch of actors and you want to have a script and you want to have explosions and you want to have superheroes like you need a lot of money like if you want to make an avengers movie you need a lot of fucking money that and that you that would be you can't compete with that or maybe you'd have to have you'd have to have money behind it but like i don't go watch avengers like i'm not the biggest superhero so if you're you're going to miss out on i mean there's not that many of you know it's like Avengers like these giant like Jurassic Park or like these kind of giant things right but then outside of that the movie industry is like it's not made you know you could go you can't go make a I don't know like Pelican brief I'm just trying to name a movie that's like our you know the net that's Sandra Bullock I'm just naming something right you can't go make that movie if you go and then talk about Brennan Frazier he goes off the planet no one sees him for a while well then you're like go get Brendan Frazier you get a guy that's a bone of star that they just kind of don't use and then you're like you want to do this like you know you get writers that are can't get in to Hollywood or you don't know about like and then you could make something unreal that's a real good point because all you'd have to do is catch someone's eye on social media where it's like real good you know it's like this is fucking compelling this is where to mouth gets around and then make it reasonable for them to get it yeah yeah I mean people are doing that with their special like Schultz just did that with his comedy special he bought it back from the streamer and released it on his website direct to fans yeah it's uh it's very it's if you're not going to only buy these certain things yeah these giant things then and and it's the big corporations then that's where it's a problem for well the creators are not there's only so many of like those stars right so if you're only going to be like well we can only put them in it because we need to make our money back and you're not taking zero chances well then you're creating underneath you a network that will overtake you I believe like it's good you're you're just creating too much talent like you look at mr. Beast on YouTube like these are guys that like that guy might have been on Disney if it was the 90s right but instead you let that guy figure out how to become his own person and now that guy now you're competing with that guy right versus competing with a show that you own exactly that dude's on his own he's on his own and he's very intelligent about it What he does is he makes these things that are really fun, and he figures out what's most compelling.

[2017] He pays attention to the metrics and the numbers, and what attracts people, like, the picture that you show, you know, and the title of the video, very important.

[2018] All those things are very important.

[2019] And he spends all of his money producing the show.

[2020] He makes a shitload of money and just gives it back.

[2021] And pours it all back into the show.

[2022] He lives very modest life.

[2023] That's authentic.

[2024] And that's what I think people are buying now.

[2025] He also translates it into multiple languages.

[2026] That's well.

[2027] Yeah.

[2028] He has people that work for him.

[2029] He knows how to do a business and knows how to do that stuff.

[2030] So if that guy can make it and then he's like, I'll start, I'll be a company that starts doing it for other people.

[2031] It's, I mean, then that guy becomes Netflix.

[2032] Well, let me tell you something.

[2033] That guy could just do that with movies.

[2034] He could do that with anything.

[2035] Like, he has this mind for organizing and putting things together and figuring out.

[2036] what people like and he's like a genuinely fun intelligent likeable guy so he puts that all together he could he could focus that on anything like he probably likes movies we all like movies yeah if he said let me get together with a bunch of people that make you know really fucking cool scripts i want to make a movie yeah a bunch of people who are actors who nobody knows where there's a lot of them man acting there's a lot of people that are really good way more working in theater somewhere you know that are really good and that's hard to compete with Because you can't, it's not, it's a punch that you don't see where it's coming from.

[2037] And you're like, what is it?

[2038] And it's someone that's high up that's like, YouTube, who watches YouTube?

[2039] And then you're like, the next 50 years, that person's going to sound like the dumbest person that's ever lived.

[2040] I watch YouTube, but I don't watch it like, my daughter and the kids, they're not even watching TV.

[2041] Right.

[2042] They're only watching YouTube.

[2043] That's what most kids are doing.

[2044] They're watching TikTok.

[2045] They're watching YouTube.

[2046] They're watching just whatever.

[2047] whatever nonsense pops up on their feed.

[2048] If you create something, like I always thought about with YouTube, like, well, what if you create a, write a scripted show, and you just put it out on your YouTube thing for free?

[2049] And, like, you just shoot it.

[2050] Like, I'm thinking about, like, trying to start shooting some stuff and just being like, all right, I'll try to write sketches, not really sketches, but it's like a 10 -minute version of, like, curb your enthusiasm.

[2051] And I'm going to just try to go shoot that on my own and put it out on my YouTube.

[2052] And then just see what happens.

[2053] well that's an actual like crafted thing and you I know writers I know all the comics all of us that like have been doing this for a long time people that are acting and like you can find people to be in it and you're like all right I'll just pay for this and it goes on YouTube and just see what it goes from there it's like I don't know why can't you not you know do that if you keep it the cost down I think you certainly could if you were motivated if you're motivated and you know you had a good group of people that you collaborate with you could do that I bet there's some really fucking intelligent creative people out there that can make all kinds of wild films.

[2054] And if you don't have special effects and all you need is, you know, a music soundtrack, like, you can kind of do that with, like, can you do that with garage band?

[2055] Couldn't you like make a music soundtrack, basically?

[2056] I've never used it.

[2057] I know red band makes all kinds of crazy music with garage band.

[2058] You can definitely do it, yeah.

[2059] So you could have, like, piano playing, you can have all the kind of, you know, musical uncutriments that people love in film, you know, which is very.

[2060] weird right we've all we just accept scenes where music starts playing that tells us the mood and that weird yeah because if you don't if it doesn't have that it feels odd but when it has it it feels completely natural it's like we're totally programmed like imagine if you were talking to your wife and you're like hey you know I was thinking about the other day and and then you give her a big hug and music start playing you'd be like what the fuck is going on yeah what is this music like why is her music playing well we're just accepting Is there a band here?

[2061] That there's people in this romantic Or these people in this tense moment And music playing Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dump, Dump, Dumb.

[2062] Like, there's a gun fight And there's a soundtrack to the gunfight And like, what the fuck is this?

[2063] That's why I have trouble being like, how do you not know this is happening?

[2064] You don't hear their music?

[2065] You don't hear the soundtrack?

[2066] You don't hear the soundtrack?

[2067] That's what we just accept that there's a soundtrack.

[2068] Well, you go out people start doing stuff like that Willow Creek that you were showing which is like the Blair Witch Like Blair Witch was like such a crazy when that came out.

[2069] Yeah.

[2070] Was insane.

[2071] We all thought, everybody thought it was real.

[2072] Everybody's like, is it real?

[2073] Yeah.

[2074] I heard it was real.

[2075] Yeah, I heard it was real.

[2076] It was like, it made it so fun.

[2077] Well, that was shot on nothing.

[2078] And so if you go do that now, like it's almost like these streamers and all these big things, they can't get, they're getting, they get comfortable.

[2079] Like you're Disney Plus, you're like, well, I'll just buy all the main things up.

[2080] and you're like, well, you don't see this underlining thing that's building where no one's going to want to watch a polished thing.

[2081] Maybe in 10 years, I don't want to see something polished.

[2082] That's weird.

[2083] It's weird for me to see it polished.

[2084] I want something that's got a little originality in the way it was shot, or it feels like a little, you know, it's got a little bit texture to it because everything is too polished.

[2085] Right, right.

[2086] And so then you've got this other world that's building up that you have no idea that exists, and now it's a big problem.

[2087] and then you start going, well, I'll just go there.

[2088] And then, like, with YouTube, people with comics putting specials, if you don't keep it going and moving forward and building, then it's going to be like, well, then you force people to go do other things, and then the other things become the thing.

[2089] Yeah.

[2090] And then you're like, well, now what I do it?

[2091] You look at Netflix, like, you know, Comedy Central was, that was it.

[2092] Comic Central was it.

[2093] But don't you think there's always going to be that place for the big movie?

[2094] That's the argument for the stars.

[2095] The place is there.

[2096] But, I mean, those stars, so, but the competition, what are you going to do?

[2097] Try to go, if it's Chris Pratt's turn to be the star, well, he's young.

[2098] So you're going to try to take his job?

[2099] No one's going to take a chance on someone else.

[2100] And I'm not, I like Chris Pratt.

[2101] And so like, but it's like, Chris Pratt's just there.

[2102] So he's like, you're not going to get those jobs.

[2103] So then those people go, well, I guess I go find a different way to get a job.

[2104] Well, that means you have all these great actors that are going to go do these things that are.

[2105] Oh, for sure.

[2106] your competitor that could essentially be your competitor I guess you could look at it that way or you could look at more people making cool stuff like if you're a business I'm talking about their business you can only make so so many fucking movies and when the movie business is booming it's booming for everybody when people get confidence in movies and a bunch of really good movies come out in a row like people want to go to the movies you have a good experience of the movies oh we went to see that oh this is fucking awesome let's go see it like that's good for it's good for everybody yeah they don't think about it that way they think about it in terms of like i get it opening weekend you know we're going to be competing against batman and you know fuck we should oh like it should be scheduled two weeks later or three weeks later but everything feels like a big event every it feels like there's too many big events his big why like ufc uh but ufc feels like it has his events and it's it's they they just time it out very perfectly where it's always around the corner you're like i can't wait to see that event well there's we have an event almost every week.

[2107] Yeah, but it's not the, you know, it's like there's the events and then there's the other fights and then like, but you have, like, it's really good at hyping these events.

[2108] I see what you're saying.

[2109] The big ones, the big title fights.

[2110] Yeah.

[2111] And they go, and like now, I feel sometimes in movies, it's like they I might be contradicting my whole point as I'm realizing I'm saying this.

[2112] But it's, uh, because it's, I was saying like they do too, maybe they do too many of those movies.

[2113] It's like too many Jurassic Park.

[2114] Like Spider -Man, you're like, when Spider -Man came out, you're like, all right dude I can't watch there's been 15 of them there's seven different dudes there's seven different dudes and we're not pretending that you're not just right like is there not create a new character well they kind of did with the spider verse they did a nice flip on it with the animated one that's my favorite did you see that one I didn't see it but I heard about it's really good it was awesome it's really good I hear all of them are awesome they're all great they're gonna be great yeah but that's what that's the point well you have a good point there and that each one of those Spider -Men other than who's the first one?

[2115] Toby McGuire he was the first one right he was already famous Toby Andrew Garfield but with the other guys afterward Tom Holland was already famous he was already famous Andrew Garfield is the other one was he famous already sort of not really though right not like Spider -Man or two movies maybe these all probably blew them up but you have to be young to be Peter Parker because he's a high school student but I understand your your point earlier made sense to me like these guys These guys selling, like the Tom Hanks and all, like they're selling tickets and Brad Pitt and all these.

[2116] Where you could be like, if you're Tobin McGuire and you're these other guys, you have to prove that you can, you can sustain the career.

[2117] Right.

[2118] Which is something to be said, which I'm actually a big fan of being, the longer you're in this business, the more you realize career length is, it's very impressive.

[2119] And if you can sustain it, that's something in its own right.

[2120] anybody can be not anybody but being a flash in the pan and being hot in the moment but being able to carry it is very hard to do sports and any like everything right comedy when you just meet a comeback and they were like I'm doing it for 25 years 30 years 40 years you're like that's insane yeah how's that we we're this is all we're made this career on just our dumb brain right words like it doesn't we're not we got nothing you know so it's always impressive so I understand that aspect of he had these people that sustained these long careers maybe it is no one's come up behind them and completely taken over Robert Patterson's probably one because he's in the new batman like that guy was twilight and now that guy seems like he's getting like real acting like he's like a will be the next kind of star that'll be in a lot of stuff you know yeah there's always those guys that people like them in films you see him as like a co -star in a few films then they take off it's a fucking horrible road if you don't make it you know and I I've met a lot of people that never made it and it just fucking that's why I like comic because we we have you have a meritocracy yep yeah you there's at least some control and it's it's it can be at least a little in your hands I don't think we disagree about this movie thing I think we're just looking at it in different ways I think I agree with you that it opens up the door for all these people to do creative stuff because the barrier for entry with really being able to have a phone and a tripod and you can film some shit that's real and that this is going to open up the door to a lot of really creative people for sure and a lot of people that have been overlooked but i think that's good i think it's going to have the opportunity for like the cream to rise to the top like stuff that's really good you just get like virally shared yeah and you know and people can you know look people can do a lot today with just simple editing software.

[2121] You can do a lot today.

[2122] You can do a lot.

[2123] I mean, I've seen wild videos that people make online where they splice shit together with music and they just do it from their computer.

[2124] Well, the videos I've seen your face on, like, someone else's...

[2125] You're like, that's insane.

[2126] It's insane.

[2127] That's insane that it looks like you can't...

[2128] You've seen that guy that does Tom Cruise?

[2129] Have you seen the deep fake?

[2130] It's incredible.

[2131] Maybe, yeah.

[2132] Watch this.

[2133] It's going to freak you out because it's not Tom Cruise.

[2134] it's this guy who sounds kind of like Tom Cruise so it works because he does a good impression but then they're doing a deep fake on his face and it's nuts it's nuts because they're going to be able to do this with anything with anybody there's already a program that they have with you or me because we've done so many podcasts they can take all of your words you've ever said and make you say things in any kind of inflection that they want in any way they want loud angry this is this is the guy He said, you know, Mr. Movie Star, are you nervous?

[2135] I said, no, Mr. Gorbachev, I'm not.

[2136] He goes, well, remember how much a polar bear weighs.

[2137] He said, polar bear?

[2138] He said, enough to break the ice.

[2139] It's last time I've ever seen Macau, Corbachev.

[2140] What's up, TikTok?

[2141] So this guy just doesn't look like his...

[2142] No, no, no, this is a deep face.

[2143] It looks a little like him.

[2144] That's why it works so well, but...

[2145] It works because he's got a similar facial structure, but that is wild shit.

[2146] It's kind of broken there, you can tell.

[2147] Well, it's like you could see quick movements or not.

[2148] But look at this.

[2149] Hey, listen up, sports and TikTok fans.

[2150] If you like what you're seeing, just wait till what's coming next.

[2151] You think you could tell the difference?

[2152] No, no, no, no. I thought it was...

[2153] guy looked like Tom Cruise.

[2154] No, no, play this more.

[2155] This is just deep face.

[2156] Look at this.

[2157] That's wild.

[2158] I don't know if I've seen that.

[2159] I think I thought that was, uh, I thought, oh, this guy looks like him.

[2160] No, no, no, no. I didn't realize what was happening at first.

[2161] What does that guy actually look like?

[2162] Do they have a photo?

[2163] What he actually looks like?

[2164] It's pretty, he's, you know.

[2165] He's a black dude.

[2166] You're like, oh my God, dude.

[2167] He's Mongolian.

[2168] Yeah.

[2169] Yeah.

[2170] Oh, well, he does kind of look like them that well that does help that helps a lot does help a lot but still that's crazy that means they're not far off from oh you don't have to look at him look how they did it look how they just take his face off do that again show can you show that again watch how they do this because it's fucking wild well yeah look at this they make a digital version of tom cruz's face and then they superimpose it over his face so i'm pretty cute i told you about that thing with the south park guys and they said they were going to make a whole movie with Donald Trump.

[2171] Yeah, yeah.

[2172] So what were they going to?

[2173] They were going to, and what happened?

[2174] I said, it's on hold right now.

[2175] They didn't officially stop, but they had a whole movie script written.

[2176] They were going to have like a guy that looked just like Donald Trump.

[2177] That was the idea of the movie.

[2178] Wasn't there a guy who played Trump in a Comedy Central show?

[2179] Wasn't there?

[2180] Yeah.

[2181] Or was it Bush?

[2182] Did he play Bush?

[2183] There's a couple Bush shows, but there was a guy that was running around as a Trump impersonator for a while.

[2184] But was there a comedy central show on Trump or just, it was just Bush?

[2185] It was Bush.

[2186] That's right.

[2187] They had like a Comedy Central sitcom.

[2188] South Park guys made that too, I think, didn't they?

[2189] Did they?

[2190] That's my Bush.

[2191] Is that?

[2192] Did they?

[2193] I never watched that.

[2194] Was that good?

[2195] If those guys made it, it must be good.

[2196] And those dudes have built their own, like, they're just, everybody.

[2197] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2198] Everybody needs to shut the fuck up when those guys are talking.

[2199] Yeah.

[2200] Those guys have made the greatest animated show in the history of the world.

[2201] world.

[2202] It's some of the wildest, funniest shit that's ever been on television.

[2203] I've got to do like your father didn't separate the whites from the colors.

[2204] Oh, Jesus.

[2205] Well, at least he believed in something.

[2206] That's my Bush.

[2207] That's just the matter thing of it.

[2208] Forgotten masterpiece, it says?

[2209] Someone, yeah, trying to bring it back.

[2210] The shit is naturally a bumbling.

[2211] Man, it was just...

[2212] Oh.

[2213] It's like a whole new documentary about the show.

[2214] Oh.

[2215] I never watched that show.

[2216] I don't think I even heard of it.

[2217] I knew it was on.

[2218] I was like, this is wild.

[2219] They got a fucking sitcom.

[2220] Did you ever see those guys early on?

[2221] I saw the very first VHS tape before it was ever a TV show.

[2222] Oh, really?

[2223] Yeah, it was being passed around.

[2224] I was dating this gal that was a...

[2225] She worked with an agency, and they got a copy of it.

[2226] And people were making copies of copies and passing around to people.

[2227] It was like a thing that was going through Hollywood.

[2228] And it was like really crude.

[2229] And it was all about Brian Boytano and Christmas.

[2230] It was hilarious.

[2231] Like, really funny.

[2232] And just bizarre crude animation, like much more crude even than like the South Park you see now, even more shaky, but hilarious.

[2233] And then it was like a couple years later, I think it was a show.

[2234] I was like, wow.

[2235] They made something I don't recall ever seeing, and I don't know if we've talked about it.

[2236] It was called Sassy Justice.

[2237] Do you know what I'm talking about?

[2238] Have you heard of this?

[2239] No, it sounds awesome.

[2240] This is where they debuted this deep fake technology stuff that they were doing with Trump.

[2241] I've, like, I've never seen these images before.

[2242] Sassy justice.

[2243] What the fuck is that?

[2244] I have no idea.

[2245] It's a 14 -minute video.

[2246] 98 % like this.

[2247] It's a 14 -minute video.

[2248] Like, this is the whole video they made, I guess.

[2249] Now, with a technology called Deepfake, you can get screwed over and lied to in ways never before possible.

[2250] Everyone's got a mask on.

[2251] Hi, I'm Fred Sassy.

[2252] See?

[2253] is a world of deep face plus is a local Cheyenne dialysis clinic charging two months ago.

[2254] Is this what they were going to do?

[2255] Yeah, yeah.

[2256] That's what they were going to do.

[2257] Oh, my God.

[2258] Oh, my God, that's hilarious.

[2259] Oh, my God, that's funny.

[2260] It's got to be the most fun to work.

[2261] Like, just or at least, I mean, it's hard work.

[2262] What they do to be able to do that is insanely hard.

[2263] Do you think they got shut down?

[2264] Like, do you think that's one of those things where someone said, hey, you can't do that?

[2265] They said they stopped because a lot of this was time.

[2266] Like, a lot of the jokes were timely.

[2267] And they, because the timing was going to be off as like two years later.

[2268] Whatever.

[2269] They might be starting it up again, you know.

[2270] They might be doing it again right about all this stuff happening now, like the raid.

[2271] Well, it's just, are you allowed to do that?

[2272] Like, here's the question.

[2273] Oh, yeah.

[2274] Can you have a whole show?

[2275] Can I have a. Yeah.

[2276] Mark Zucker.

[2277] Oh, my God.

[2278] But the dialysis king on the corner of Laramie in Fairfax, right?

[2279] Jesus Christ.

[2280] Like, are you allowed to do that?

[2281] Like, look, when Kyle Dunnigan does it, here's the thing.

[2282] When Kyle Dunnigan does it, one of the things that's great about it is kind of like the South Parky thing.

[2283] It's, I am giving in to the fact that this is not real life.

[2284] Yeah, yeah, right?

[2285] I'm submitting to this.

[2286] He's so good at it.

[2287] He's great at it, but it's not, it doesn't look real.

[2288] This looks real real, kind of.

[2289] Well, the one on the right.

[2290] what's that guy's name again Michael Kane but that looks like Trump interviewing him with it looks like they put a wig on Trump yes yeah Trump looks real well they got a guy obviously that like physically resembles his size the perfect impersonation yeah clearly not going for the voice though so that maybe that's why yeah fucking amazing but Michael King sounded the Michael Kane's a little in that uncanny valley that's a little weird it looks a little sketch but the thing about what I was getting in the thing about the Kyle Dunnigan stuff is it looks fake so it's funny like the faces are moving all fucked up like you know it's not really Nancy Pelosi with skeleton hands yeah you know it's you know rattling her jewels yeah like when you watch that it's hilarious like it's like when he does Biden you don't think it's really Biden have you seen the Biden ones they do yeah yeah yeah it's the funniest shit of the internet but when Donegan does it it's funny because it's not like I feel like you could do that this doesn't look I mean, you can tell the hair, that's not Trump.

[2291] You can tell because of the hair, but that doesn't look fake.

[2292] That doesn't look like a deep fake.

[2293] Oh, my God, that's incredible.

[2294] Compared to the one we just watched with Tom Cruise.

[2295] So they have a really good technology with whatever the hell they put together.

[2296] Bro, that's wild.

[2297] And there's Christopher Walls.

[2298] That looks normal.

[2299] He's talking to Trump.

[2300] I want to watch that.

[2301] Like if you, yeah, if it was just, if you walked by it, you would be like, I would just think that's what it.

[2302] You have no context.

[2303] That's just playing somewhere you see.

[2304] stop for a second.

[2305] I mean, if he does that, you'd be like, but then you would just, you could easily just be like, yeah, I'm not prepared to be looking out for this thing.

[2306] No. Yeah, of course.

[2307] It is true with Dunnigan that he, it's very...

[2308] That's too close.

[2309] Yeah.

[2310] It's better being like the other way.

[2311] Yeah, like play a Dunnigan one.

[2312] Play the Dunnigan most recent Biden one.

[2313] Dude, but he did Ray Leota.

[2314] It was amazing.

[2315] I made.

[2316] Smoken cigarette.

[2317] It was hilarious He does everybody great Bill Maher He's Bill Maher It's fucking spectacular Yeah It's so funny And him and Kurt Metzger together Oh Metzger's been hiking too He told me he's addicted He goes during the hottest part of the day He hikes up Runyon My name is What?

[2318] My name is who My name is The guy You see how bad that looks You like pie tits?

[2319] Right Not pie tits You want to see me close Both my eyelids I get real close I'm quicker than most Let me be clear.

[2320] I ain't afraid of no ghosts.

[2321] I take my talkie Joe drugs.

[2322] And give super long hugs.

[2323] I'm also an ice cream guy.

[2324] My name is.

[2325] What?

[2326] My name is.

[2327] Rob rival.

[2328] I mean, come on, man. How funny is this?

[2329] It is true.

[2330] It's perfect because it's it's not too it's obvious it's fake I'm glad him and uh Metzker started doing stuff like uh you know Metzger I've been around since I started and he was always a guy that was it was he was like one of the first guys you're like oh this dude like this is nuts dude because he was only probably a couple years older me in comedy and so like to be that young you know like and be like new like me and then he's like kind of with jokes like that and you're like, you're like, this is crazy, dude.

[2331] You're so good.

[2332] Yeah, he's an amazing joke writer.

[2333] Amazing.

[2334] And together, the two of them, they sync up perfectly, personality -wise and writing -wise and style -wise.

[2335] It's about the jokes.

[2336] It's about being funny.

[2337] And that's what you get, like, all they care about is being funny.

[2338] Yeah, it's amazing.

[2339] But, and also, they did a Comedy Central pilot, and in the Comedy Central pilot, they used a much better level of CGI, where it looked really.

[2340] And Kyle said he didn't like it.

[2341] He said, this is better.

[2342] And I'm like, I'm 100 % agree.

[2343] That's what I mean about stuff going.

[2344] Yeah.

[2345] It's, I could, you can go sit and watch those Instagram videos that are better like that.

[2346] Yeah.

[2347] Versus when a whole TV thing and they start throwing money in it.

[2348] Right.

[2349] And then you're like, well, they just wasted whatever money they wasted to do that just to go like, eh, it's, it's better to do it on the budget that we're doing it on this.

[2350] Yeah.

[2351] Yeah.

[2352] It's one of those things where, you know, they're sinking.

[2353] up perfect with the right now with the way it's so easy to do like a shitty deep fake like that like anybody could do that on their phone now and this sinking up perfectly with this whole thing that you were talking about earlier where it's like some people are getting left in the cracks some fucking really talented people and for whatever reason somebody hasn't taken a chance on a comedy central or this or that and it's better that way because the stuff they say is too wild like you that's part of what's funny about it yeah it's so wild you're buying into They're creating personalities.

[2354] Have you seen it?

[2355] You seen as Caitlin Jenner ones?

[2356] They're, they are fucking wild.

[2357] They're wild.

[2358] When he does all the Kardashians and they only talk like this, yum yum, yum, yum.

[2359] Caitlin does all the talking.

[2360] Find the one where Caitlin got a new vagina and she's telling everybody about her new vagina.

[2361] Holy shit, is it funny?

[2362] Oh my God, is it funny?

[2363] I've gone to where I got I'll start flipping through them and then you're just like yeah you just get kind of lost I was a big that really old is one of the first ones I saw that I was like this is the funniest thing The Jeff Goldblum ones off the charts, too.

[2364] He does an amazing Jeff Goldblum.

[2365] But that's the thing about Dunnigan, too, is, like, he's a master impersonator.

[2366] Like, his impressions are fucking great.

[2367] Yeah.

[2368] He could do a lot of weird voices, you know?

[2369] They're, like, I didn't think, like, I've never heard anybody do Mar that good.

[2370] Like, he sounds like Mar. Yeah.

[2371] You know, he has the mannerisms.

[2372] He knows the tone, the way they talk.

[2373] It's impressive.

[2374] Fuck, yeah.

[2375] It's super impressive.

[2376] But that's, like, for your example, like, this is their, They're completely independent.

[2377] It's not this, right, first female orgasm.

[2378] Maybe that's it.

[2379] Yeah, maybe that's it.

[2380] I'm close.

[2381] To what?

[2382] Close to my first female orgasm.

[2383] This isn't quite working.

[2384] I need some tips on how to finish.

[2385] I've been at this for two hours.

[2386] Oh, that's doing something, baby.

[2387] I need to get some.

[2388] suction on this situation.

[2389] What is happening?

[2390] So weird now.

[2391] Shut up, checkers.

[2392] You're distracting me. Just what happened, that's a good tick, Chloe.

[2393] You got to.

[2394] Oh, I'm feeling a tickle on what used to be my pickle, baby.

[2395] Yeah.

[2396] Turn this up and out.

[2397] We need therapy.

[2398] All right, let's take this home.

[2399] Oh, yeah, baby.

[2400] Oh, geez, I just squirted on checkers.

[2401] You couldn't do that anywhere else You could not do that anywhere else It's so funny It's so funny I think they're on Comedy Central They're going to take that into the room He goes this is what we're thinking What are you talking about?

[2402] Get the fuck out of here You're going to get us all killed He can't do this But you have to you that's like there's going to be an outlet for that man you know you can you bottle everything down so you know that yeah i think the outlet is i mean those guys are going to pop through they're too good you're going to start seeing people make stuff that's going to allow those guys and that's going to be yeah that's huge because it's like that's your funniest guys yeah so what it's not like those are like col and kurt are just like two dudes you don't know and they're we don't know if they're really funny that's season season comedians right that we you can count on that we know are funny guys have worked behind the scenes on a bunch of shows you know Kurtz Kurtz put specials out Kurtz toured like they Kyle tours like you're this is not you're taking a chance I whether you it's a matter of whether you like their comedy or not is your objective but then being comedy writers and creating comedy they're that's as foolproof as you can do it what they're doing now is perfect I think it's building you know it's building mostly by word of mouth and people sharing them and spreading them.

[2403] But most of them have millions of views.

[2404] But at what point, if you go take that show, I'm saying, like, you look at it going like, so what do you want to do with that?

[2405] So if it's like, Kurt and him or like, you're like, all right, I want to make you, let's make a show.

[2406] And then so you go, what do you want to do?

[2407] You want to go to HBO?

[2408] You're going to someone that's going to restrict you from doing the freedom that you can do.

[2409] Versus if you have someone else that creates something or if it goes through, or whatever it can go through where they can at least make some money or touring, Yeah, well, that was the idea of substack.

[2410] I had one of the co -founders of substack on yesterday.

[2411] It's like you just pay monthly.

[2412] Yeah, you subscribe to, it was originally just journalists, and now they've moved to podcasts.

[2413] They have podcasts on it now, and even videos.

[2414] They have video podcasts.

[2415] And so you just subscribe to, like, whoever you want.

[2416] And there's no advertising, and the money goes, you know, like, they get 10 % and you get the rest.

[2417] I like that.

[2418] That's a great idea.

[2419] Yeah, and that, like, just like podcast opened up to the door to a lot of people.

[2420] How much does it cost to, like a dollar or $2?

[2421] I don't know.

[2422] Some people make it free.

[2423] You can make it for free.

[2424] You know, I know some people's, their substack is just open.

[2425] And other people, they accept donations.

[2426] And some people, they charge subscriptions.

[2427] And some people have some stuff for free.

[2428] And then some stuff, if you want to be a member, you get all of it.

[2429] So they just, like, get you into their stuff, you know, and you realize they're good writers.

[2430] See, that's the hard part is like, what's it going to be?

[2431] when you, there's only so much where you could be like, all right, are you going to be paying $80 a month for 80 different people are like, you know.

[2432] Well, I don't know how much you have to pay.

[2433] I mean, but I'm not saying substack, but I'm saying the future of whatever thing can go to.

[2434] Right.

[2435] I love the idea of no ad.

[2436] Like, it's the idea that you can that you can pay a subscription and you don't and you don't have to do ads and you get the content that you want.

[2437] But it's like if stuff gets too spread out, that's where it's hard to, you know, is it hard to make a superstar?

[2438] out of that because you're like too much like people are going spending money and going two different many ways.

[2439] Yeah, but is not the goal just making superstars?

[2440] No, I don't know.

[2441] It's not the goal.

[2442] The goal is just do your best, right?

[2443] Yeah, it's not the goal.

[2444] I'm just like I'm saying does that that world kind of dies.

[2445] Maybe or there's always going to be certain individuals that do things that are different, you know, that like whether it's Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle in comedy, whatever it is in whatever genre, there's people that never go away, you know, for whatever reason.

[2446] And I don't think trying to figure out why is the answer for the individual.

[2447] I think for the individual, it's like, just do your best.

[2448] Just do your best and do the best version of what you're doing.

[2449] And if you're doing, if you're comparing yourself to others, do it in a way that inspires you only.

[2450] Don't do it in a way that turns you into a jealous bitch.

[2451] Yeah.

[2452] Because it's very easy.

[2453] It's a natural human inclination to tend towards jealousy and bitterness at other success.

[2454] Oh, yeah.

[2455] It's natural.

[2456] And you feel it.

[2457] You feel it the whole time you come up and then you look slowly.

[2458] I always tell me, it's like, whatever you feel, slowly you're just going to move on.

[2459] And then you're like, I can't believe I can even care about that.

[2460] As long as you care about yourself and you just end up, it's not that you don't complain to your friends about it.

[2461] Or you, you know, you just keep the circle tight.

[2462] Venting is great.

[2463] You do that kind of stuff.

[2464] And then you get back and just mind your own business and be like, it's hard to stick to a plan.

[2465] because people went in to I think people can tend to think well this is working for this person and then they changed their whole act to try to be that person where you got to go no no no just stay stay forward and then you keep moving forward and then you because then a lot of times you can watch the thing that you're jealous of you end up watching you pass it and at one point you were jealous of that well it's just a bad instinct you know because it's the same fuel that you could use for inspiration and it's positive it's the same fuel you just decide how to use it you know that feeling that you get that you're not as good or you're not as valued or you're not as appreciated that that feeling is fuel you just got to use it the right way the problem is there's a just a natural inclination to feel negative about the person like i've heard people shit on people that are really good like really good famous comedians like oh his last special was garbage oh this is like you haven't put anything out in years just shut the fuck up.

[2466] Like, you, first of all, you're wrong.

[2467] It's not, it's not garbage.

[2468] And second of all, it's like, you're looking at it, you're looking at it like it's representative of what he does.

[2469] And it is in that one particular set.

[2470] But everybody has sets that are kind of squirly.

[2471] And one good way to guarantee you're going to have a squirly set is film it.

[2472] You know, film it.

[2473] One show, you got one show.

[2474] Ready, go.

[2475] Ooh, some people can pull that off But some people, they come off like a little tense Whereas a regular show, they'd be like super loose But there's this like natural inclination To like want them to fall You know, you want to see them fall Because it's somehow it lifts you up It's easier than you trying It's just, is for that person to fall Is easier than that person trying to It's a bad use of energy Yeah, it's a bad use of energy Because that same energy If you don't give in to that instinct And I've felt that instinct many times in my life.

[2476] It's a gross instinct to, like, be upset at someone who's doing better than you.

[2477] But if you can just take that and say, oh, this is fuel for inspiration for me to get better and to become undeniable.

[2478] Be undeniable.

[2479] That's it.

[2480] Just do that.

[2481] Steve Martin, be undeniable.

[2482] Is that what he said?

[2483] I think it was his book.

[2484] That was his book?

[2485] Nah, that could be making all this up.

[2486] I know, yeah, let's get small.

[2487] not his book but I thought it was a Steve Martin said just be undeniable or that's what I always heard he said he probably did it he was a smart dude I didn't know he said it but I say it too and I think a lot of people said it's just a natural progression was he say here be undeniably good there it is when people ask me how do you make it in show business or whatever what I always tell them and nobody ever takes note of it because it's not the answer they wanted to hear what they want to hear is here's how you get an agent here's how you write a script here's how you do this but I always say be so good they can't ignore you if somebody's thinking how can I be really good people are going to come to you it's much easier doing it that way than going to cocktail parties bam so Steve Martin just said exactly what I said or no I said exactly what he said it already you might have said it before I don't think so you know I don't think so but it's the same feeling that was it from last week it's the same feeling just don't concentrate on that just you know just do your especially in something like comedy it's way harder in acting because you got to get chosen yeah we don't have to get chosen there's oh if you if you're doing shows you know you get recognized by your peers people take you on the road you get working in the clubs you start making a living we don't we don't get chosen we get made we make ourselves and we have other people help us and that's not a thing an actor necessarily gets to do it's a way it's way hard or fun it's way hard to road man woof I yeah I never envied it in the fact if you can get to a point where you're a fucking working actor for decades like a John Legg was it is crazy or like a James Franco yeah it's not that many man not that many who get to that spot you know how many Lawrence Fishburns are there I mean how many how many got you know and they didn't let him be in that wick the last work movie didn't get killed I don't think so I don't I'm not the wick I mean the uh Do you stab him in the third WIC movie?

[2488] Not the Wic.

[2489] The other one.

[2490] What's the other one, Keanu Reeves?

[2491] Oh, the Matrix?

[2492] The Matrix.

[2493] What do you mean?

[2494] I don't think he's in the one that came out.

[2495] What?

[2496] Is he?

[2497] You.

[2498] Disinformation spreader.

[2499] How dare you?

[2500] Huh?

[2501] How dare you?

[2502] He saw it.

[2503] I think he has COVID in it.

[2504] I think he's got bad memory?

[2505] I don't think he has the vaccine in there.

[2506] I think the whole point of it.

[2507] What happened?

[2508] Why did I not think he was in it?

[2509] Because you're not paying attention You're eating gummy bears and taking a nap All this I do not follow movies When you talk about the music playing in the movies I don't think I ever even pay attention to it Go to the opening scene in John Wick too This is fucking badass It's one of the best like muscle car Street scenes in a movie It's John Wick chasing down this assassin In a 1970 Chevel Give me the volume though Because it's got all this music part of the thing.

[2510] This is a great fucking scene.

[2511] So this is right after John Wick one ends.

[2512] He's going after everybody who stole his car and killed his dog.

[2513] Okay, so he's on this fucking murderous rampage.

[2514] But listen, his music.

[2515] So there's a car chase.

[2516] It's fucking amazing.

[2517] But there's also a music playing.

[2518] By the way, let me just say, for a fact, there's no fucking way.

[2519] in 1970, Chavelle could ever keep up with a motorcycle.

[2520] Period.

[2521] End of discussion.

[2522] This is silly.

[2523] But it's still a fucking dope scene.

[2524] See, look, he's slipping in out, and John Wick figures it out.

[2525] And so he manages to get around traffic.

[2526] Everybody gets out of the way for John Wick.

[2527] Look, he's just driving in the middle of lanes and shit.

[2528] Everybody's stuck in traffic, and he's going sideways around corners.

[2529] It makes no sense.

[2530] Yeah.

[2531] But listen to all the music.

[2532] Look, it's like letting you know what's happening.

[2533] Look at it.

[2534] He's getting close.

[2535] I don't think I've ever paid attention to the music.

[2536] You never seen this?

[2537] No, no, I've seen the music.

[2538] To pay attention to the music.

[2539] I think about that obsessively.

[2540] Whenever I watch a movie and music starts playing, I can't help but think that music is playing.

[2541] Yeah.

[2542] And also that I just accept it.

[2543] John Wayne gets out.

[2544] Music plays.

[2545] Yeah, it makes sense why they do.

[2546] I mean, you get like it's, uh, it makes it awesome.

[2547] Yeah.

[2548] And I think the fact that I don't notice it, maybe that's their job, is to be like, they don't want you to notice it.

[2549] it's way better than without the music yes like this is better yes this shit yeah set the tone tell me what the fucking mood is bitch it's awesome but that that's you talk about multi -cam on uh we tell me she knows with comics that's why the multi -cam I think worked because it was like it was attached to live laughs yeah and it was nice to yeah real laughs it was nice to really to really laugh with the people with the people With the people.

[2550] And the comic knows how to play off laughs, which made the energy better.

[2551] 100%.

[2552] 100%.

[2553] Yeah, it's infectious.

[2554] Yeah.

[2555] And when you hear them when they have laugh tracks, it's a little insulting.

[2556] Ha ha ha ha.

[2557] Who was the fucking demon who first figured out the laugh track?

[2558] How about we don't even have to have them laugh?

[2559] We'll just play recordings of people laughing.

[2560] We'll tell these dumb cock suckers what's funny.

[2561] Have you ever seen a professional Laffer?

[2562] What?

[2563] So when I did Unless I could be making It might be me It might be all When we did our pilot They had people come in So you could So you could When you have to run through the whole thing You know You can't bring in a whole audience So they bring in Four people That can That are great laughers And so you can Kind of get your timing off of it Oh that's hilarious And so you look in the crowd it's like four people like like really loud laughing and they were like really good you're going you imagine if somebody like hired them and they got busted they hired them to be in their stand -up comedy taping oh yeah oh my god the whole audience you were then well just a giant amount hired 150 laughers that'd be that'd be so crazy what if they fucked up they didn't like you're so bad they don't know where the setups are where the punchline is I thought dude there's a I did that comedy dot TV with Byron Island like years ago and they had the same audience for like seven hours and so there were tape in it and like by time we went up you're like this crowd doesn't even they're laughing at all the world like it is a you're in a front of a robot audience that has no they're not listening they've been there for too long and so they would laugh at just if you pause they would laugh being like I don't care is this where I should laugh and I remember just the whole set I just stared at this guy he had a big he had big hair and he's sitting there and he's the whole show he's furious like it's a guy that like goes I was supposed to be here for an hour and y 'all made me watch every comedian that's ever lived to do five minutes and he was so mad and they're getting paid very little but it's not much not much not enough to sit through that No, those people are all living below the poverty line, I would imagine.

[2564] They were not happy.

[2565] No. And you felt it.

[2566] Yeah, that's like, that's almost like showbiz adjacent.

[2567] You're getting paid.

[2568] You're in the audience.

[2569] You're getting paid.

[2570] You're a paid audience member.

[2571] Yeah, it's a, I mean, it's a job.

[2572] It's a job.

[2573] Yeah.

[2574] I mean, you're kind of like an extra.

[2575] Right.

[2576] That's a fucking horrific job.

[2577] Being an extra.

[2578] I'm reading through an article from LA Weekly where they were, getting them from central casting professional laughers to an extent not even that long ago they were using it instead of like canned laughter they would put fake people in in waves to laugh at certain levels and when they would start dying they replace them when you say who's they who did this casting director really yeah so they would hire wow they would hire people to fake laugh she would screen them she got so good at it people started calling her to replace their audiences with the people she could find oh my god that's crazy well it's something that no one's ever really dove into to think there's good laugh there's a lot of people that are really good laughers well there's also like I mean they're not just good laugh let's be real they're not just good laugh if it's funny or not yeah yeah yeah that's what I mean yeah not yeah not gonna yeah right this is an this performative laughing easy to entertain they're just like they but you imagine if you like had but it makes sense that they would rig the whole thing if we were talking about like having a star like there's so much money attached these things like the more of a laugh that something gets the more people might be inclined to laugh at home the more like maybe the performers would be energized because they're killing but that will take but it's a it's a better product in your mind it's not in what you're going to see it's not a better product because it's it's it's going to it's all fake and that means the jokes will not be truly tested Right.

[2579] That's why like when you with comics, it's like when you go somewhere and you go like do a special or somewhere and someone's like, no, you're like, you know, this person's going to, oh, everywhere in America and maybe the world.

[2580] And they're trying this joke.

[2581] This is, these jokes of comics, they're the most tried thing that you've ever seen.

[2582] But what if they have already done it?

[2583] What if that's the Big Bang theory?

[2584] What if it was just all professional laughers?

[2585] Yeah, but the Big Bang.

[2586] Yeah.

[2587] They already did it.

[2588] And they made a fucking.

[2589] in a cajillion dollars but yeah big bang was funny i mean my my parents loved it i've seen some clips of that were very funny like so maybe they're really good at it i think they're good at i think that shows you that that that was chuck lory that's made a lot of like that shows you that the multi -cams i don't really think they had fake people in the audience laughing i think you do i don't i don't think lauren so what i'm saying is a mat imagine we can beg to differ we agree to disagree joe I don't disagree I didn't see the last one I'm ignorant completely but what was my point if they they could do it and it's like what if they did do it and we don't know yeah I think they could pull it off I think if you had like you laugh because other people laugh that's true I do if you're yeah you're contagiously you want to be like yeah we're having a good time do you think any of the laughers pull the people aside and go you know I just want you know even if I wasn't getting paid I would still laugh I think it would be funny to have him a professional laugh for he's like ah ha he's here a gunshot and you're like this guy just had enough like he just can't and all the other people start laughing because they're nervous so then it just sounds like you're like a guy just killed himself they just throw him in a hefty bag and drag him out real quick and place him with another guy and everybody's just kind of awkwardly lay some plastic down the seat yeah he's fine it's fine he's fine he's fine he's fine he's just Fine.

[2590] We'll get someone else.

[2591] Sit there.

[2592] Jesus Christ.

[2593] That's the Russian version of it.

[2594] It's too much.

[2595] That's the Russian version of Byron Allen.

[2596] Guys are just blowing their brains out in the audience.

[2597] Guys licking the tire because he doesn't even know it tastes good in his whole life's fake.

[2598] Yeah.

[2599] He's oblivious.

[2600] How crazy is Russian roulette?

[2601] Oh, I don't know how you...

[2602] How crazy is it?

[2603] I was just thinking about that.

[2604] First of all, that it's called Russian roulette.

[2605] Which is nuts.

[2606] Like, who invented that?

[2607] Is it just Russians?

[2608] I hope so.

[2609] Are they that wild that they came up with that?

[2610] And then two.

[2611] Well, you've seen that look at the Russian Instagram?

[2612] Like, look at this Russian.

[2613] Oh, no. There's an Instagram page that's, uh, I think it's called, look at this Russian.

[2614] And it's just people in Russia doing stuff.

[2615] It's the funniest thing.

[2616] Do you see what they did recently?

[2617] They had a 600 versus 600 boxing match.

[2618] 600 people versus 600 people in a field with boxing gloves on.

[2619] and they come towards each other and just beat the holy fuck out of each other.

[2620] You have to Google that, Jamie.

[2621] And does someone win?

[2622] Send me that link to that Russia thing.

[2623] Or does everybody lose?

[2624] Who fucking knows?

[2625] I only watched a small clip on Instagram.

[2626] I have no idea what the context was, no idea what was happening.

[2627] But look at this.

[2628] They're running towards each other with fucking boxing gloves on.

[2629] Look at this.

[2630] There's guys in the yellow shirts and guys in the black shirts.

[2631] And it's just a fucking swarm of people two on one, three on one, four on one, people beating the fuck out of each other.

[2632] They go down, they're punching each other when they're down, there's no referees, and they look like they're kids.

[2633] They all look like they're in their, like, teens or early 20s.

[2634] Yeah, they get tired.

[2635] Well, they're fucking going full blast.

[2636] They're sprinting.

[2637] And they, I mean, the idea that this is a fucking sport is crazy.

[2638] Like, these are the people that we're thinking about going to war with, settle down everybody.

[2639] This is what they're doing when they're waiting to go to war.

[2640] Well, this is what we're doing.

[2641] We're arguing over 78 different genders.

[2642] They're beating the fuck out of each other on a football field.

[2643] 600 versus 600.

[2644] I mean, just running each other.

[2645] It's hard parts of the world, man. Well, the fact that they have that, you said the Russian roulette, that if that was made, that's such a crazy, you have a board game night with some families.

[2646] And one of, someone doesn't go home.

[2647] Maybe a couple don't go home.

[2648] You want to talk about the awkward conversations you have on a blind date.

[2649] You're like, well, that's what you should do.

[2650] If it's uncomfortable with a guy, you're like, let's play Russian roulette.

[2651] And then you just kill the person that's uncomfortable.

[2652] And you're like, I did you a favor.

[2653] Come on.

[2654] Because we're playing a monopoly.

[2655] Let's play some monopoly.

[2656] That's the craziest thing to do.

[2657] Russian roulette is the craziest thing to do.

[2658] Like to imagine.

[2659] Yeah, where did it come?

[2660] Like, is it, are you allowed to play it?

[2661] I bet people made prisoners do it.

[2662] I bet that was probably the first versions of it I bet people did it to prove that they didn't give a fuck you know that they weren't scared I bet yeah it's one of the fucking dumbest things you could ever do yeah I don't know the joy I guess the joy of living but remember that scene in deer hunter holy shit I don't think I've ever seen deer hunter you never saw deer hunter oh my god dude it's an incredible scene with Robert De Niro and Christopher Walken, and they're playing Russian roulette with each other.

[2663] They play Russian roulette with guards.

[2664] They play Russian roulette with the Viet Cong.

[2665] It's crazy, man. And they make them do it.

[2666] And they, look at this.

[2667] Play this.

[2668] Give me some volleyball.

[2669] Look at this.

[2670] And they're betting.

[2671] They're betting on who gets shot.

[2672] And they're making these guys play Russian.

[2673] Look at this.

[2674] You are me. You are me. Look at them.

[2675] Look at them.

[2676] They got guns pointed to them.

[2677] It's just wild, man. I'm so loud.

[2678] This is definitely not for this movie was about...

[2679] I would have went into this movie.

[2680] I would have went into this movie.

[2681] thinking it's completely something different well the movie is about Vietnam but the no deer hunter thing is he takes a shot at a deer and misses and he will not take a second shot like he has this like ethic in his head that it should be one shot one kill this guy has these morals and ethics that he applies to hunting into life and then he gets thrown into the chaos of the Vietnam War and then there's a lot of shit and it's a heavy movie yeah it's a heavy movie It's a really good movie.

[2682] Yeah.

[2683] A really good movie.

[2684] I'm going back and watching much old movies because I missed a lot of movies.

[2685] That's one that holds up, man. Was there music playing?

[2686] No. No music when that was going on?

[2687] Yeah, that was interesting, right?

[2688] We didn't even notice.

[2689] Look at what the acting.

[2690] God damn, the acting is good.

[2691] But maybe because it's like, you know what's funny?

[2692] The music is like, it's more, that's why it's more intensive a scene.

[2693] Right.

[2694] Because you're not distracted by music.

[2695] you're just having to feel like you're sitting there.

[2696] And the acting, how good is Christopher walking in that scene?

[2697] Jesus Christ.

[2698] Very good.

[2699] Jesus Christ.

[2700] He was in The Matrix.

[2701] And those guys that are smacking them around.

[2702] How great are those guys?

[2703] Who are those guys?

[2704] That's what I mean.

[2705] Like, you see some of those movies with those, you're like, dude, these dudes.

[2706] That guy really looks like he's forced that guy to shoot himself in the head.

[2707] It's crazy.

[2708] I always think that in like some of those movies you're like, how, where are, do we, is there just like, some of these other countries, you're like, they're going to get to this town and being like, how many Oscar nominees do we have here?

[2709] And they're just yanking them out.

[2710] And they're like, these dudes are the greatest actors I've ever seen in my life.

[2711] And we don't even talk about it.

[2712] We're like, all right, thanks for everything.

[2713] And you're like, you're better than our own people, dude.

[2714] Yeah.

[2715] Yeah.

[2716] And it is true.

[2717] There's a lot of, I mean, Captain Philip, like, that guy was like, that guy became, like, that guy's a star.

[2718] It's like, you end up becoming some guys that you think you're going to, they're just like, you're like, well, I don't know if they, expect them to be a star or they're just the end and then you're like this dude's ridiculous yeah well there's talented people out there and there's more opportunities now for talented people just to get your shit out there than ever before it's weird weird time it is it's exciting though you know we were talking about um streaming versus putting things on youtube last night and like versus doing what schultz did or what people are doing with other stuff on substack and other places It's a interesting landscape.

[2719] Yeah, it does.

[2720] It opens the door for anybody.

[2721] Anybody can go grab success.

[2722] I think there's going to be a lot more of people that you're, you know, someone's going to be like, I don't know who that is, and you're like, well, that guy's worth $100 million, and he's enormous, and he has a giant following.

[2723] And, you know, it's you build your audience.

[2724] If your audience, you walk around an audience, you can compete because you just have, if you're creating something that is substantial.

[2725] An act.

[2726] Create an act.

[2727] Create something that people can come back to.

[2728] Create something that people like.

[2729] Mm -hmm.

[2730] Yeah.

[2731] All right.

[2732] I think we did it.

[2733] Happy birthday.

[2734] Happy birthday to me. Thank you.

[2735] It's a big day.

[2736] When's your birthday?

[2737] March 25th.

[2738] I'll remember it.

[2739] I'm going to write down.

[2740] Thanks, man. Same day as Stan Hope and Tommy Johnigan.

[2741] Is it really?

[2742] Okay.

[2743] I'll remember that now.

[2744] Yeah.

[2745] I appreciate it, dude.

[2746] It's fun hanging out with you, brother.

[2747] I loved it, man. We've got to do this more often.

[2748] I know.

[2749] It'd be a lot of fun.

[2750] It's like four hours, right?

[2751] Four fucking hours, dude.

[2752] Lawrence Hispir.

[2753] We didn't even pee.

[2754] We didn't pee.

[2755] It's very impressive.

[2756] All right, Nate, you're the fucking man. Tell everybody is at Natebargazzi .com.

[2757] And everybody's atcom.

[2758] Big tour going on right now.

[2759] Yeah, you're all over the place.

[2760] All over the place.

[2761] Go to my website.

[2762] All this stuff's there.

[2763] And your podcast is?

[2764] Nateland podcast.

[2765] Nate Land.

[2766] Is that on everything?

[2767] It's on everything.

[2768] My buddy with Nashville Comics, Dusty Slay, Aaron Weber, Brian Bates.

[2769] Beautiful.

[2770] All right.

[2771] Thank you.

[2772] And bye, everybody.

[2773] Bye.