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[110] We went turkey hunting for a meat eater, that TV show that I do several times a year.

[111] And we drove all the way up to Northern California.

[112] It took us about shit, like nine hours because of traffic.

[113] It was pretty brutal.

[114] But we had a great goddamn time.

[115] I have a great time with Brian Callan, no matter what I do.

[116] He's one of my best friends.

[117] I love him like a brother.

[118] I've known him for 21 years now.

[119] Yeah, I think.

[120] Something like that.

[121] It's pretty close.

[122] I think I met Brian in 94.

[123] We were both a little babies, a little bambinos, somewhere around there.

[124] It might be slightly later.

[125] In the neighborhood.

[126] Why am I explaining to the day how many years I've known them?

[127] About two decades.

[128] Let's just say that.

[129] And we just always have great fucking times together.

[130] We had a great time together.

[131] Last time we did that's the meat eater show where we went to Alaska and it sucked.

[132] the fat bag of dicks we were trapped in this goddamn rain forest for five days sleeping in wet tents wet sleeping bags with wet clothes everything you do is wet because it rains all day every day um and we still had a great time because i fucking love the dude we have fun together and the same was true in this long ride to northern california we did it in my car while we were driving we were talking we're having this really cool conversation and i said fuck man let's do a podcast So we just broke out the iPhone, and I stuck it in the ashtray, and we just talked.

[133] So you'll hear engine noise a little bit.

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[137] So please enjoy this conversation with my good buddy, Brian Callan.

[138] By day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[139] It is, what is today's day?

[140] Today is the eighth, my friend.

[141] No, no, today is the sixth.

[142] It's the morning of the six.

[143] We're stuck in traffic.

[144] Yeah, traffic sucks.

[145] We are on our way.

[146] We are on the 101, headed to Northern California, to go to Sonoma, the wilds of California wine country to hunt.

[147] Shooting turkey.

[148] We're going to shoot some turkeys.

[149] And then Brian is going to go to Edmonton to do some comedy.

[150] And I'm going to keep hunting, because I'm fucking crazy.

[151] I want to go hunt some pig.

[152] I want to clip a pig, man. You're lucky you get to clip a pig, bro.

[153] I'm taking a pig out, bro.

[154] I want to stab it in the heart.

[155] I'm not really into that.

[156] I'm going to shoot them.

[157] I'm going to blast a turkey.

[158] I have my upland bird validation.

[159] That's a bird license, everybody.

[160] Yeah, I've got mine right here, fellow.

[161] That's a hunter talk for my bird validation.

[162] We are in traffic, so we were talking, having this wonderful, fascinating conversation.

[163] And we said, hey, let's do a fucking podcast.

[164] So if you hear honking, that's me. I'm a shitty driver.

[165] If you hear a car, this is not stuff we added in post.

[166] This is all, we're actually driving.

[167] If you hear thank you, thank you, it's because people in other cars are recognizing me and thanking me for all my comedy.

[168] It's from The Hangover.

[169] That's what it is.

[170] They always, and the one thing on sex in the city.

[171] Oh, by the way, I get a call from Todd Phillips, the writer -director of The Hangover, and he says, hey man, he's like kind of apologizing and I'm like, what are you apologizing?

[172] Are you offering me a party?

[173] He goes, yeah, I don't know if you have time.

[174] I go, you're Todd Phillips, so I'll play a mushroom in your next movie.

[175] Yeah, I have time.

[176] And I was like, what's the part?

[177] I'm excited.

[178] I'm playing a Jordanian smuggler, ladies and gentlemen.

[179] I guess the same character.

[180] So, thank you.

[181] The same characters you were.

[182] I'm not a very diverse actor, dude.

[183] I play the same guy.

[184] Was that who you were in the hangover?

[185] I'm going to move the thing to hear.

[186] There's my microphone holding.

[187] Yes, I was playing an Lebanese.

[188] I was playing a Lebanese guy in one, and I was playing a Jordanian guy in two.

[189] That's the...

[190] I had a wig with the same accent.

[191] And now I'll be wearing something on my head.

[192] Did you actually say that you were from Lebanon or Jordan?

[193] No, but I swear in the hangover, in the first one, I say, Kisach de Sharamuta, which means your sister is a whore.

[194] Whoa.

[195] Yeah, as I get shot when they shoot me. So that's the hint that I'm Arabic.

[196] I saw the first one.

[197] I didn't see the second one.

[198] I didn't hear good things.

[199] I didn't really see all of the second.

[200] second one.

[201] Um, I don't watch a lot of what I'm in.

[202] Um, that's probably good, right?

[203] We were speaking about the Arab world and you were talking about Islamic fundamentalism.

[204] Yeah, we were talking about people that are married.

[205] There was this guy that on Twitter that I followed that was talking about Sharia law, that divine law is superior to all their laws because it can be, it can never be approved upon.

[206] So there's no need to ever revise it.

[207] And I was like, wow, what kind of crazy thinking is that?

[208] Like these guys that were, uh, this guy's a, he's an eye.

[209] ISIS supporter and this just really radical fundamentalist Islamic cleric and promoting Sharia law and it's interesting because this guy just tweets I don't know if he tweets from like if he texts it in and then it doesn't read Twitter because he never responds but he'll go on these long rants.

[210] I don't even know if he's tweeting it or if someone who works for him tweets it but all the people in the comments you know and the responders to that there's so many people just shitting all over him.

[211] And it doesn't matter.

[212] He never responds to them, never comments.

[213] Yeah, it's just putting it out there.

[214] But I think what I was saying is that the obsession with purity and the obsession with perfecting anything is so human throughout history.

[215] And I was just thinking about, for example, the nutrition movement.

[216] So there's a book, I believe it's called Clean.

[217] And the guy's name is Alejandro Younger.

[218] He's a doctor.

[219] I think he was a cardiologist.

[220] I like how you say his name.

[221] Alejandro, Alejandro.

[222] Younger.

[223] Yeah, it's from Argentina.

[224] He's from Argentina, I think.

[225] Yes, Argentina.

[226] And...

[227] Is he a gaucho?

[228] No, it's from...

[229] He's a doctor.

[230] He's a doctor.

[231] He's a very good doctor.

[232] He's a very, very smart doctor.

[233] And he also does salsa and marangue.

[234] Salsa?

[235] Salsa.

[236] For me...

[237] Salsa, Marenga, samba, it's my garden.

[238] My garden, my secret garden.

[239] See.

[240] So...

[241] But he wrote the thing about how you can keep your cells clean by eating a certain way.

[242] And there's all this junk in your cells, yeah.

[243] And a lot of nutritionists will always talk about sort of have cleaning and unclogging your body.

[244] Resonates with people, man. I got all this junk.

[245] A lot of those toxins, man. I got to get the toxins out.

[246] If you ask them what the toxins are, a lot of times they're like, well, they're just toxins, man. Bro.

[247] You don't want to know.

[248] You've got to sweat those toxins out.

[249] What do you mean sweat the toxins out?

[250] What are the toxins?

[251] Have we ever done a study on what the toxins are?

[252] You'll never get an answer.

[253] Religion.

[254] I mean, any kind of puritanical sect of religion is always concerned with purifying the body, purifying the soul.

[255] You can get, you, and for that matter, the movements in the 20th century, the utopian, the end result was a utopian society.

[256] Socialism, communism, communism, totalitarianism, all of those things were the idea of controlling, re -educating the mind, getting rid of the, gunk in your mind, for example, Pol Pot said anybody who wore glasses was an intellectual, they probably should be executed because, well, they've already been corrupted.

[257] Let's have re -education camps.

[258] Mautse Tung, the great butcher.

[259] Mautse Tung was basically a guy who said, we have to forcefully re -educate people.

[260] The adults, a lot of times, are already past their, we can't fix them, let's kill them, and let's take their kids and re -educate them and make a perfect society.

[261] Anytime anybody, start talking about that kind of stuff we can fix purify clean up make a perfect society be careful because typically it's led to a lot of death and that's a thing that people do when they're charlatans and they start talking about health they start talking about toxins and detoxing toxifying doing a cleanse whenever someone tells them they're doing a cleanse like shut the fuck up with these cleanses Jesus Christ you know it's good to give you your digestive system a break.

[262] I really believe that there is probably some benefit to fasting.

[263] It says it in the Bible, right?

[264] You're supposed to fast one day a week in the Bible even.

[265] It's not all it says in that Bible.

[266] Oh shit.

[267] I'm just saying that.

[268] A lot of wacky shit.

[269] Read your fucking Bible for your health.

[270] A lot of zombie talk.

[271] You know, but you know about the zombie.

[272] Don't eat anything like an offspring.

[273] You would know this.

[274] You would know this.

[275] I was talking this about my, with my wife the other day.

[276] She was saying how, like, you hear about Jesus coming back from the dead, rising from the dead.

[277] don't hear about it after that.

[278] Did he do anything after that?

[279] He'd just come back from the dead and like, oh, greatest magic trick ever, and then stop?

[280] Or is there a history of him after coming back from the dead?

[281] Well, from what I remember, and what I understand, is that what's fascinating about the difference between what you'd call somebody who was a Jew, which was what Jesus was, a first century Jew, and a Christian now, is that you have to believe, as a Christian, that I believe three days after Jesus died and they took him off the cross three women saw him rise from the dead it was Mary, his mother and I believe one other woman I can't remember who was and they saw him risen and I don't believe he was seen after that although I think there were rumors that somebody else had seen him or something but for the most part those three witnesses who said they saw Christ rise.

[282] That's the tenet.

[283] You have to believe that he did rise based on their say -so.

[284] And that's what makes a Christian.

[285] You've got to believe that he rose from the dead.

[286] If you don't, and you think he's just a prophet, and he is recognized as a great prophet in Islam, then you're not a Christian.

[287] And it's fascinating.

[288] It's fascinating that that is the fundamental sort of tenant to that belief.

[289] Then the rest is, you know, love your enemy and forgiveness and all those things that Christianity comes with, which I think has something to offer for sure.

[290] Right, but the thing is, like, is there stories of him after he rose?

[291] Or did he just come back from the dead and just nothing?

[292] No more miracles?

[293] No. Nothing.

[294] Well, I believe when he died, I know when he died or when he was either died or arisen, a lot of people were, lepers were healed.

[295] Lots of things like that happened.

[296] For a little bit.

[297] Yeah.

[298] But it's not like he came back and led mankind to greater glory.

[299] You know what I'm saying?

[300] It's like, we're still waiting for that.

[301] But you know what I mean?

[302] to me and he came back from the dead and then that's it just hanging out yes how weird is that well he came back from the dead because he's god he went he went to heaven he sat he's sitting next to god he's it's part of the trinity he's the father of the son and the holy ghost but he showed everybody that he came back from the dead and then took off yes but the idea was this so the idea behind the image of christ was that man that god came back down earth as a man suffered as a man was tempted with all the things we're tempted from and in the end was a flawed person who said why have you forsaken me but at the end as he died what's the last thing he said it is accomplished I didn't give in to temptation I didn't renounce God I still had faith regardless of how much I was tortured I was stabbed I was put on the cross for three days terrible way to die tortured and everything else and I still I still believed I still held God close the way to think hold and then he went to heaven and then he was risen so he came down suffered as a man but the interesting thing about the image of Christ is it gives all of us an idea of what to strive for you can never be perfect but you can reach for perfection and that's the idea of being a Christian you'll always live a flawed life you'll be forgiven for it because you're a human and you're flawed but at least you can try to reach and the example the perfect man is Christ it's just so funny how many of those like really short -sighted stories there are with if you examine the stories at all do like hold on wait a minute Adam and Eve okay there are two people they have kids and then the kids just start fucking each other they fuck their kids how's that work?

[303] There's no more talking about that you know what I mean?

[304] It's like these short -sighted stories where they were written back when people didn't do investigative journalism they didn't have like in -depth discussions about story plots and plot lines and what makes sense what doesn't make sense they have a lot of literature to fall back on examine the depth of their story the believability well a lot of it was symbolic symbolism and the intellectual tradition in the church like with Thomas Aquinas and people like that is really really rich because what they were doing was really debating things like the nature of good and evil whether or not there is a God the five proofs for God like Thomas Aquinas went through so that was really what people were mostly concerned with.

[305] I mean, hey, you know what?

[306] I've realized we might not be going the best possible way.

[307] I mean, this is a way to go, because we've got to go through San Francisco.

[308] Yeah, but have faith in God, dude.

[309] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[310] Come on.

[311] Why don't you pull your phone up, and don't tell the folks at home where we're going so we don't get any young ladies banging on our hotel room.

[312] Oh, shit.

[313] Oh, shit.

[314] Yeah, I know what you're saying.

[315] Yonis sent us the address, so just plug it into your maps.

[316] If you need a charger, I brought a cord for you, because I know one of those fucking guys.

[317] The phone is probably half -charged all the time, right?

[318] Am I right?

[319] Yeah, I'm good.

[320] Why, you fuck?

[321] Phone charged?

[322] But do you need a charger?

[323] I got it since charged, bro.

[324] Is it fully charged?

[325] Yeah, man. That's amazing.

[326] Come on, bro.

[327] Just in case I've got a cord right here.

[328] If you get scared.

[329] If you drop below 80%, you start panicking.

[330] Don't you worry about nothing?

[331] I just, I've always been fast.

[332] By Biblical stories, I've always been fascinated by the similarities that they have to other religion stories too.

[333] Well, we're only three hours.

[334] We're only 384 miles away.

[335] We're fine.

[336] We're fine.

[337] Lucky we don't have bosses.

[338] Ha!

[339] Ha!

[340] Hey!

[341] He'll be there two, man. We'll be there at 2 o 'clock.

[342] Yeah.

[343] Okay, so just keep that fucker on and turn the back.

[344] volume down.

[345] Keep it near your dick.

[346] So you get radiation.

[347] Do you believe that you get radiation from cell phones and it gives you cancer?

[348] I don't know.

[349] I don't know either.

[350] But the reason why I asked him, I talked to a guy who had cellular cancer and he had his ball removed.

[351] Testicular.

[352] Not, not, did I say cellular?

[353] Yeah.

[354] Testicular cancer from cellular phones.

[355] Technically, you're right.

[356] Cellular.

[357] Yeah.

[358] Well, all cancer is kind of cellular, right?

[359] But this is not Duncan Trusser, by the way, who also has had one of his balls removed.

[360] Did you know that?

[361] No, I didn't know that.

[362] Yeah, Duncan had testicular cancer.

[363] A lot of his balls removed.

[364] It's pretty deep shit, man. That was a recent...

[365] Very recently.

[366] The last two years.

[367] It scares me. It should be...

[368] It's terrifying.

[369] But anyway, this guy went to the doctor and had testicular cancer, and the doctor asked him, what side do you keep your cell phone on?

[370] And he said, right here.

[371] He said, yeah, that's where you got cancer.

[372] He goes, you'd be amazed at how many people have the exact same mission.

[373] Damn.

[374] He goes, yeah, he goes, you'll never see anybody, like, openly advocating you not keep your cell phone on your body.

[375] He said, but I don't keep my cell phone on my body.

[376] And this guy was a surgeon, you know, who's an oncologist.

[377] Well, I actually just carried it in my hand.

[378] I never have it close to my body.

[379] It's smart.

[380] And I always talk on the speaker.

[381] I don't talk.

[382] I don't have a...

[383] Oh, you're like one of those black guys that you see outside of restaurants.

[384] Yeah, but I don't have a Bluetooth.

[385] Do you know how black guys do that?

[386] They put it on speaker.

[387] Where you at?

[388] You know, they used to have like Boost Mobile.

[389] They used to have those ads.

[390] Where you were?

[391] That was the thing that it'd say where you at.

[392] It was like part...

[393] The bad grammar was a part of their selling point.

[394] Oh, that's my shit.

[395] I say what you at all the time, dork?

[396] You say where you at?

[397] Tim, I say where you at.

[398] I need to get some Boost Mobile in my life.

[399] I said that once in a podcast, and someone said, you're racist.

[400] And I'm like, how am I fucking racist?

[401] I'm racist, because I say black eyes.

[402] You are definitely not racist.

[403] I don't want to defend that.

[404] No, but I remember a long time ago I said to you, I'd gotten to know you.

[405] I'd gotten to know you.

[406] I'd known you for about a year.

[407] And you're from Boston.

[408] And, you know, I never heard one prejudiced thing come out of your mouth.

[409] And I said, I said, you don't have, and I'm used to that.

[410] You see that a lot.

[411] And I said, you don't seem to have any prejudice in you.

[412] And you just shook your head.

[413] He goes, it never made sense.

[414] It makes zero sense.

[415] You knew a lot of dumb white people living in Boston.

[416] There's a lot of dumb white people.

[417] There's plenty of dumb everybody.

[418] And I know a lot of brilliant book.

[419] Neil deGrasse Tyson, I think, is one of the most brilliant people I've ever had a chance to talk to.

[420] Yeah.

[421] And he's got an afro.

[422] Human potential, ladies gentlemen.

[423] Human potential.

[424] Yeah, man. I don't buy it.

[425] I just think that human beings.

[426] in general, a big part of who we are, is imitating our atmosphere, what we've been subjected to, you know.

[427] Who we've been inspired by?

[428] Yeah, what you've come in contact with.

[429] But the idea that you're limited genetically because of your race, I think people are limited by economics more than anything.

[430] They're limited by their environment.

[431] They're limited by bad neighborhoods.

[432] Shitty choices that those around the bank that they've made imitating those around them.

[433] That's what I see.

[434] I don't see I don't see dumb white people.

[435] or dumb black people I see people for the most part that are pretty similar that are in shitty circumstances and there's always variables like there's always going to be people whose brains are just shitty they just have nine -fold battery brains they're just terrible that's like you're always going to see people that have birth defects you're always going to see people that have what are those white things on the ground what are those things that's weird trees or something yeah what are pruned trees I think you're always going to see people that have have issues, you know, physical health issues, and that's also with the mind.

[436] You're going to have mental health issues.

[437] You're going to have actual brain function issues, just like you have some people have issues with certain organs failing or not working properly.

[438] You're going to have that with a brain.

[439] Just no doubt about it.

[440] But the idea that it's like, you know, what is that?

[441] Oh, it's a cow.

[442] What is that animal?

[443] It's a goddamn cow!

[444] I got my game eye on, Brian.

[445] That's what it is.

[446] It's a very black cow.

[447] There's a lot of cows now.

[448] Cows are not the most majestic creatures.

[449] They're just not a very awe -inspiring animal.

[450] You look at me, they're like, ah, food, milk.

[451] Well, there was this offer that I got to, there's some places where cows have become feral, and they roam wild on this island, not hunting a cow.

[452] No, because they're still not running free.

[453] I don't care if you let a cow be feral for 20 generations.

[454] You're never going to have cows running free.

[455] Like horses, you think about just running with their mains in there.

[456] Cows never.

[457] run.

[458] Cows my child.

[459] Apparently these cows do run.

[460] Oh, yeah?

[461] Yeah.

[462] These cows react.

[463] For 10 yards.

[464] They're different.

[465] They're different for the cows that we're used to.

[466] Nah.

[467] Nope.

[468] Barely.

[469] I don't know, man. Still have giant guts and short legs.

[470] In Australia, they're, uh, I think they call them bush bulls.

[471] They call the bush bulls.

[472] And they're, they're, like, prized as, like, trophies.

[473] Like, people go out and they hunt these bulls.

[474] But meanwhile, with a bull, like, people, when you buy a steak, steaks are steers.

[475] And what that means is they take a young male and they cut his ball sack off.

[476] So his body stops reducing testosterone.

[477] That's why their meat is tender.

[478] It's a llama.

[479] Mama.

[480] Oh, my God, it's a llama.

[481] Mama.

[482] Just try, just try biting into bowl meat sometime.

[483] And this is what I want to say, this fucking moose that I killed.

[484] God damn it, this moose was a bodybuilder.

[485] It's the toughest fucking meat I've ever eaten.

[486] Moose is so much tougher than beer.

[487] So much.

[488] Is it really?

[489] Oh, my God.

[490] Way tougher.

[491] Wow.

[492] Like, my kids sometimes don't like it unless I cook it perfect.

[493] I figured out how to do it.

[494] It took me some time.

[495] Do you have to overcook it or?

[496] No, the opposite.

[497] The opposite.

[498] You have to do it just the right amount.

[499] It can't be too rare because then it's like, it's a little too chewy.

[500] It's got to be just a fine, medium rare.

[501] Just a fine medium rare.

[502] And you've got to cook it quickly because you don't want to dry all the fat out of it.

[503] Do you grill it or do you put it in that?

[504] Depends.

[505] Sometimes I roast it.

[506] I'll do it like real slow.

[507] I'll do a slow roast.

[508] I sear the outside and I'll do a slow roast like on the pellet grill.

[509] Or you'll cook it in a pressure cooker.

[510] I'll do that, which is nice because you cook it all day long.

[511] Like for a moose stew.

[512] It's nice for a stew because it gets like it falls off the bone.

[513] It gets like, well, it's not on the bone.

[514] But, you know, it gets super tender when you do it like that.

[515] because it's being brazed and not in the liquid.

[516] How much meat you have to give me?

[517] Hundreds of, um...

[518] Really?

[519] You tell me what you want.

[520] Come on over the house.

[521] I'm coming over to house and eat my...

[522] I need some moose me. And if you kill a pig, I want some pig.

[523] Yeah, I want to eat this turkey, too.

[524] We're gonna, um...

[525] I think the plan was, I hope the plan still is this way.

[526] We're going to, uh, hunt some turkey first.

[527] And then Brian's going to go to Edmonton to kill.

[528] He'll be at the...

[529] I'll be at the comic strip, ladies and gentlemen.

[530] comics in the mall, in that giant mall.

[531] Yes, that giant mall.

[532] Yeah, and it's a great room.

[533] So, um, the plan is we get some turkey and we get some pig.

[534] And then Hank Shaw, who is a world famous wild game chef, is going to, uh, give us some tips on how to prepare it, maybe prepare things for us.

[535] That was the original plan.

[536] Um, I haven't talked to Ronella in a couple, a couple weeks about this, though, so I don't know if that's still the case.

[537] but he can give some good pointers on how to cook game correctly but I tell you one thing about moose this is really weird and it sounds like it sounds like horseshit like even when I'm saying it but when I eat it gives me energy I believe that it's like I'm eating a fucking stud it's a stud animal I mean this is a how much leg way when you were carrying that leg in that famous picture now And I've, I've jacked off to at least 20 times.

[538] The only people were angry at me from that picture?

[539] Oh, it was awesome.

[540] Your hands were all covered in blood.

[541] Just carrying a giant moose leg.

[542] I've got another photo that I haven't put on Instagram yet.

[543] It's me holding the moose heart in my fist towards the camera.

[544] I'm waiting.

[545] How big is that a moose heart?

[546] It's huge.

[547] It's like a basketball.

[548] Could you work out with it?

[549] Not me. Maybe you.

[550] Jeez, I guess so.

[551] I don't have your delts.

[552] I can attach a handle to it, an on it handle, and just swing it.

[553] What are you working out with, Brian, moose heart?

[554] Yeah, I freeze it, get it hard.

[555] I fucking freeze it, and I work out with a moose heart.

[556] It's a few pounds, though, guaranteed.

[557] I don't know how many, maybe five.

[558] So how much that leg weigh?

[559] I have a moose heart at home.

[560] I still have the heart at home.

[561] If you want, we could cook it.

[562] All right.

[563] When we come back to stateside.

[564] We'll do a video of meat and moose heart.

[565] Yeah, we'll do it.

[566] The leg was more than 100 people.

[567] pounds more than a hundred pounds yeah easily maybe even like 150 were you straining but you were acting like you weren't i'm strong as fuck oh yeah you are strong um no i mean i can only hold it up there for so long you know one thing i found i'm a little imbalanced because i can hold it up easier on my right so that i can on my left side makes sense yeah but i thought that was weak very weak of me i don't know how when you shoot a moose you got to pack all that meat out you have to bring sherpas with you or something we were super lucky All right, with mine and with my friend Ben's.

[568] My friend Ben was the most ridiculous ever.

[569] Ben, uh, Ben O 'Brien, good buddy mine, um, who I went hunting with, uh, great guy.

[570] He, he, he's the one who wrote the piece for Peterson's hunting magazine.

[571] And I got my moose one day and he got his moose the next day.

[572] But we left to go get his moose.

[573] I mean, we had like four days in a row where we didn't see any bulls.

[574] We saw a couple cows and cow.

[575] Oh, elk.

[576] When I say bowl, for the uninitiated.

[577] Brian and I are seasoned hunters.

[578] We can say these things to ourselves.

[579] We know what we're talking about.

[580] But we didn't see any of them for like four days.

[581] And then when we saw mine, it was only like 65 yards from the road.

[582] I shot it.

[583] What?

[584] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[585] It was right there, right off the road.

[586] We actually saw it in the truck.

[587] We were driving to this other location where one of his employees, had seen some bulls earlier that day and on the way we spotted this bull so I jump out of the car and within 20 seconds the bull's dead and I'm not exaggerating I mean the car we're driving the car holy shit a bull stop the truck where is he he's right there I'm trying to think do I lay down do I rest my gun against something nope no time boom standing up dead bull yeah standing up standing up I just put the rifle on my shoulder look at him to the crosshairs I was, bam, he drops, we high five, we have a dead bowl.

[588] Oh, my God.

[589] Yeah, and I want to take you to butcher that?

[590] You butcher it right in the field.

[591] Yeah, butchered it right there.

[592] We did it all.

[593] We took pictures of the whole deal.

[594] It took a while.

[595] It took a few hours to chop it up.

[596] It's a big animal.

[597] What do you do with the guts?

[598] It's just bird food?

[599] No, we kept the liver and the heart.

[600] Those are the pieces that you eat.

[601] Yeah.

[602] We took those with us, and we cooked them up that night.

[603] I put some pictures up on Instagram that night of cooking heart and liver.

[604] It was delicious.

[605] Cooked liver and onions.

[606] It was really good.

[607] So fresh.

[608] Like, remember when we had that liver in Montana?

[609] Yes.

[610] We ate it the night I shot that deer.

[611] Oh, it's incredible how good it is.

[612] We were so hungry, too.

[613] So hungry for real food.

[614] Cold all the time and just hungry.

[615] And eating that bullshit, freeze -dried mountain packing food.

[616] You can keep that shit.

[617] So that's how close mine was.

[618] My friend Ben shot his On the Road.

[619] It was on the road.

[620] We were driving and then these two enormous bulls Mine was about 900 pounds Obviously we didn't weigh it, we're just taking a guess But his was an easily 500 pounds bigger than mine His was fucking huge He jumps out of the truck We see the bull stop is about 200 plus yards away Maybe even 250 He jumps out of the truck Gets on one knee and starts firing And he had this gun called a Blaser It's from Germany and it's a bolt action rifle but you reloaded you don't have to go up down forward you just push you just go like this so he's like pop out pop out he's like he shot it like five six times because he's got like a little clip at the bottom of it's an amazing rifle it also breaks down to like a suitcase size it's incredible rifle Germans perfect for assassinations Germans are bad motherfuckers they're engineering machines so anyway he shoots his we run over to it we gut it saw it in half we saw it in half pickup was like four of us we threw Sam the photographer Mike who's the guide and the outfitter Ben and me we hoist this fucking half a carcass up throw it in the back of the pickup truck and then hoist the other half in barely can close the gate right in the middle of the body Jesus but I'm saying you saw it saw it right down the middle So that we could pick it up And throw it in the car Back at the house in an hour and a half But now what do you With all the muck and the blood It's in the back of a pickup truck obviously Well we gutted it on the road So most of the muck and blood Spilled out But a lot of it was in the pickup truck You know that's his hunting truck So he just hoses that off after every day anyway But my point is From leaving Mike's house Who's the outfitter To seeing this bull Shooting this bull in half throwing this bull in a truck, driving back to Mike's house, an hour and a half.

[621] We leave, and an hour and a half later, we have this giant fucking moose.

[622] Huffing, like, you know, it's 80 pounds of meat on your back.

[623] Well, you know, that's why Steve Renella's brother trained llamas.

[624] It sounds like bullshit.

[625] But he has, he has llamas.

[626] He actually has llamas that he's pack llamas, yeah.

[627] And he carries him around in a van.

[628] He has a van that he takes these llamas with.

[629] That's incredible.

[630] It's amazing.

[631] so these llamas like they can withstand ridiculous cold and they can pack a lot of weight as long as you pack it on them evenly like you can't have like 70 pounds to left and 60 pounds to the right it has to be like pretty much 7070 so they really take great care and balancing out the load that they carry but he before he did that he was packing out an elk by himself and he fucked his back up really bad And so I think about that all the time when I'm with Ronella Because Ronella is He's a hardcore dude man And he is also relentless And he's one of those guys that like Like his brother They will fuck their backup Yeah Like when we were I told you the story about us Killing the pig And we kicked it down the hill Did I tell you this story?

[632] Yeah it took you like Hours We killed the pig at like maybe like Five -ish maybe six -ish It was just two of you Yeah Yeah, and by the time, two of us and the guide from Tahoean Ranch, and by the time we got back to the cabin, it was long after midnight.

[633] It was ridiculous for six hours.

[634] Pick it wasn't that heavy.

[635] It was just how far you had to take it.

[636] It was probably 250 pounds.

[637] Now, when you go hunting up here in North Carolina, Northern California, for pig, are you hunting wild boar or are they feral pigs?

[638] This is where it gets interesting.

[639] William Randolph Hearst, that crazy fuck, this, you want to talk about one of the nuttiest characters in American history.

[640] William Randolph Hurst was the guy that inspired Citizen Kane.

[641] Orson Wells made a movie, essentially, which was about William Randolph Hurst being a fucking crazy cut.

[642] And he's also the guy that made marijuana illegal.

[643] William Randolph Hurst's efforts to demonize marijuana work out.

[644] absolutely connected to marijuana, not as a psychoactive drug, but as a commodity, meaning hemp.

[645] Right.

[646] Because hemp paper, they came up with this thing called the decorticator, and decorticator was a new machine that had been invented that made it much easier to process hemp fiber.

[647] Because hemp fiber, back during the slavery days, that's what they used to use.

[648] And Eli Whitney came up with the cotton gin, and while now all of a sudden cotton became way more effective economically.

[649] way more feasible to use than hemp was.

[650] Because hemp, although it's a far superior fiber, it's very durable fiber.

[651] Have you ever got a piece of hemp paper?

[652] Have you ever fucked with hemp paper?

[653] Yeah, you can't really tear it.

[654] It's crazy.

[655] It's so strong.

[656] And the hemp stalk is really, really light.

[657] But so hard.

[658] It's an alien plan.

[659] It really is.

[660] It's not like any other plan.

[661] Well, William Randolph Hurst, that crazy fuckhead.

[662] He, besides doing that, and demonizing hemp and he did it because he had all these paper mills and popular science magazine had this cover hemp the new billion dollar crop and it was all basically because of the decorticator making things very easy to uh to process now well he also this crazy fuck brought a bunch of urasian boars and let them loose around his mansion really it's a castle the hearse castle yes it is a castle yes uh let them loose in northern californ And to this day, the wild erasian boars, like, have you ever seen the pictures of Hunter S. Thompson?

[663] He used to hunt them in Big Sur with an AK -47.

[664] He used to fucking AK -47, a machine gun.

[665] He was out there, I don't know if it was an AK -47, but he used to hunt boars with a machine gun.

[666] Those were the descendants of the boars that William Randolph -Hurst released up there.

[667] So you're talking about these wild Eurasian boars.

[668] And what's the difference?

[669] They're smaller, longer snouts.

[670] Well, according to Radella, all of them come from the same genus.

[671] Yeah.

[672] What would you say genus, or genus?

[673] Genus.

[674] I say genus.

[675] I say genus.

[676] Okay.

[677] So, Seuss graffa.

[678] Seuss graffa is the type of animal.

[679] And all pigs, domestic pigs and wild boars, they're all the exact same animal.

[680] Really?

[681] Yeah.

[682] That's what it's really weird.

[683] I mean, obviously, people look different in all parts of the world, right?

[684] This is like a difference.

[685] A domestic chicken, the forest chickens?

[686] Well, a Chinese guy and an African guy.

[687] You see a guy from Africa, I see a guy from China.

[688] They're the same thing.

[689] They're humans.

[690] They're not a different species.

[691] Right.

[692] So that's sort of the same way it is with pigs.

[693] And with these boars, what's weird about wild pigs is that if you take a regular pig, like Babe, you know, Babe the pig, release the pig.

[694] Within three weeks, they start morphing.

[695] Once they go feral, once they know that no one's taking care of them, there's no pig slop to be had, and then they have to go out and earn, they start changing.

[696] They start growing hair.

[697] They start growing thick, dense hair, their tusks start growing, their snouts elongate.

[698] They literally morph and become a different animal, and they do it really, really rapidly.

[699] So when you see like wild pigs, like where we go Tahoe Ranch, where I was a couple of weeks, ago.

[700] They have a great pig hunting program up there, but those are wild pigs.

[701] Those aren't Eurasian bores.

[702] They look different.

[703] They're black.

[704] They're black.

[705] They don't look like, like, when you say pigs, you think of like those white looking things.

[706] Pink, curly tails.

[707] They don't look like that.

[708] They're dark animals, but they're wild pigs.

[709] What we're hunting is wild boars.

[710] So they're the, you know, it's, again, same species, but they look a lot different they come from a different part of the world so um those are the descendants of the pigs allegedly that were released by william randolph hers at least how i understand it i can be fucking this up but i don't think i am i think the spanish were the first people that bring pigs to the new world well they're an amazing animal man they're so hearty yeah bring them anywhere release a good healthy population of them and step back and watch and they breed quickly like crazy When Ronella and I were hunting, not Ronella, Cameron Haynes and I were hunting two weeks ago at Tihon Ranch, we saw pigs with like litters of like eight, nine pavies.

[711] Wow.

[712] Yeah, eight, nine piglets.

[713] Us just in a while?

[714] Yep.

[715] Wild pigs running around.

[716] We saw a lot of them, too.

[717] We probably saw 50 pigs.

[718] We're only hunting for two days.

[719] Well, I heard in Texas there's a major pig problem where you can't shoot your way out of the problem, right?

[720] No, not only that, they've allowed people to use helicopters now.

[721] Yeah.

[722] Have you seen any of that footage?

[723] Oh, yeah.

[724] That Ted Nugent shit?

[725] Yeah.

[726] It's blasted with a machine gun.

[727] From a helicopter.

[728] Good, good, good, good, good, good.

[729] Yeah, it's wild, man. And even then, they can't even put a dent in it.

[730] That's a crazy.

[731] That's nuts.

[732] I guess it's a huge area.

[733] It's a huge area?

[734] It's kind of, no, it's just a brush, you know, brush country, and it's not forest at all.

[735] I mean, some of it is forest.

[736] But most of it is, like, what we're looking at right here as we're driving up to California coast.

[737] You're looking at, like, I mean, this is, this pig's out here, guaranteed, 100%.

[738] There's wild pigs out here.

[739] Wild pigs in Northern California are very common, and that's something that people don't know.

[740] There was a news story the other day about San Jose.

[741] They're having a hard time in San Jose proper in the city of San Jose where these pigs were tearing up this guy's lawn.

[742] They're, like, really common.

[743] Wild pigs.

[744] They were talking about how, you know, I was telling you how they cleaned up Hudson River, and now you can fish in the Hudson River, which nobody thought was possible.

[745] In the 70s, even the 80s, they would have laughed at you.

[746] But when you give nature a chance, like, all you do is give nature a chance and it'll come back.

[747] Oh, yeah.

[748] I mean, you know.

[749] Nature's a motherfucker, dude.

[750] Yeah.

[751] I mean, there's so many different varieties of life on this planet alone.

[752] When we look at life in the known universe, we, you know, contemplate the possibility of life on other planets.

[753] Like, they think there might be life in Europa underneath the sheets of ice, because they, They note that there's cracks in the ice that seems to indicate liquid water underneath.

[754] That's so fascinating.

[755] Which means there might be a heat source, like a volcanic core, something like that.

[756] Well, you just think about the different varieties of life that we know exist right here on Earth.

[757] And it's like, it finds a way, man. It finds a way.

[758] Well, you know, China is so, the Yangtzee, I think in the Yellow River, are so polluted.

[759] And I think there's this fledgling environmentalist movement.

[760] There's this one guy who's trying to clean up the river.

[761] Like one dude in China.

[762] Think about that guy.

[763] Hey, we've got to save, there's one dolphin left, you guys.

[764] He's got it on life support.

[765] You know, these river dolphins that are basically, I think there are like three left or something.

[766] Try doing that.

[767] Try stopping the tide of industrialization in China as one guy.

[768] Guys!

[769] Well, China's an excellent example of what happens when you just let it run a muck.

[770] You just let the raping of the earth, the pulling of the resources with no worries whatsoever about the environment.

[771] It's crazy.

[772] Like, you see some of those cities that they have where the sky is black.

[773] Well, now what they're trying to do is when they build a building, they're trying to put on top of the building a garden and all that stuff.

[774] So the idea would be, when you build this new city, when you fly over it, it's green, because every roof is a lush garden that grows its own food, et cetera, et cetera, is a carbon sink.

[775] Well, also, you're dealing with particulates.

[776] and they also cook apparently my buddy spent some time in Beijing they cook in those outdoor friars and that is a huge part of the problem yes which I was surprised outdoor friars yes it had less to do it had a lot to with the cars and things but it also had great to do with the fact how they cook their food outside really yeah in the seven days when people were using diesel I guess it was I don't know it was compost or whatever was it where they would burn their trash, that was a huge problem when it came to air pollution.

[777] That's why a lot of houses, when you buy new constructed houses in California, they don't have working chimneys, they have electric chimneys that burn alcohol or whatever, but you're not going to get a chimney that burns wood because when enough people are burning wood in their chimneys, it'll contribute to particulates in the air.

[778] That sucks, man, because I love a goddamn fire.

[779] real fireplace.

[780] When I lived in Colorado, we had a real fireplace and I fucking loved it, man. Went out and chopped wood through the logs in the fireplace.

[781] It just smells great.

[782] I'm fascinated with how there's certain things that just never replace nature no matter how in technologically advanced we get.

[783] Like wool in the wild.

[784] When you have wool, it gets wet.

[785] It's going to keep you warm.

[786] Yeah, I don't know.

[787] Harrison and most anything else.

[788] Well, apparently we're not right about that.

[789] Like, they do have some synthetics that recreate that now.

[790] Yeah.

[791] That's probably like what me yundies uses you know what i'm wearing meandies right now i am too i am too i don't even know if it's going to be a sponsor in this show but that they're legit yes they are we're not even trying to do them as a sponsor well i always talk about we did a thing where i had to i lost a bet and brennan made me i had to do the podcast in just my underwear and i borrowed is that a wild pig um no you will see them though if you keep your eye out on here really yeah all right now i'll be peeled but um his brother had these miyundis that he'd been wearing for two years.

[792] And even the dick part was stretched out.

[793] It's got to have a piece on.

[794] And I put him on.

[795] Did you put his underwear out?

[796] He wore it for two years?

[797] No, no, but I mean, yes.

[798] But I mean, they'd been clean.

[799] So there's only traces of I coli.

[800] So he's only had them for two years.

[801] He doesn't have been wearing the same pair.

[802] No, but he's had him for two years.

[803] But they were well worn.

[804] But after two years, they were looking good.

[805] It's good quality underwear, man. The material held up, even though his dong area was stretched.

[806] And much to my chagrin.

[807] I wasn't filling it out.

[808] Damn it.

[809] I found some underwear that are in my underwear drawer that were over a decade old, for sure.

[810] Sure.

[811] And the elastic had gone to shit.

[812] Think about how long elastics last.

[813] Yeah.

[814] My elastic was completely loose in the part where I could put them on.

[815] I could shimmy my hips, and they would just reveal my cock.

[816] That's so ridiculous.

[817] Yep.

[818] Yep.

[819] That was one of the things that me on these ad is the average person keeps her underwear for seven years.

[820] Seven years As a fart filter Seven years That's ridiculous As a fart filter I always wash my ass After I take a dump Well I got one of those Japanese toilets That's a little jet thing I don't really use it much So it doesn't work as well Nothing like the shower or the sink Ladies and gentlemen I love it Yeah showers better Stick my eyes right in a sink Shower's definitely better Yeah well Americans That whole tissue toilet paper thing Is the worst way To clean your ass Yeah, it doesn't clean your house.

[821] How about that?

[822] And that's what everybody does.

[823] Bidays are what you want.

[824] In Europe, everybody has a bidet.

[825] Yeah, I have a bidet too, but I never used it.

[826] It just sits there and put magazines on it.

[827] It was there when I moved in.

[828] Something about, like, when we bought the house, the lady who lived in it before was European, and she had a bar of soap in that bidet, and I knew it was for her twat and her butthole.

[829] And I was like, I'm not using that thing ever.

[830] I'm not going to use that dirty bidet.

[831] The thing that you hover over.

[832] squirt at, but I love it when it's actually built into the sea.

[833] The Japanese take everything to the next level.

[834] They're just so goddamn good at that.

[835] They take things that are pretty good.

[836] It's got a seat warmer and all that.

[837] Oh, yeah, it blows air on your asshole.

[838] Yeah.

[839] And it feels good when it cleans it, gets in there.

[840] Really right in there with that water pick.

[841] The water's warm.

[842] It also has two different speeds.

[843] Like, it'll go, like, hardcore if you're, like, into that little stinging pain.

[844] Meanwhile, we're still shitting in water.

[845] I mean, you know, with all the time, technology.

[846] We're still, it's basically the same people, we're shitting the same way people did 100 years ago.

[847] Like 100 years ago, they were like someday.

[848] Have you seen Fitzsimmons bit about shitting in water?

[849] You got to see it.

[850] I don't want to give it away on the podcast.

[851] It's a great bit.

[852] Oh yeah, I have actually, I have.

[853] Fitt Simmons is a fucking genius, man. He's such a smart dude.

[854] He's great.

[855] He's got a great bit about water.

[856] And like Africa.

[857] You take it for granted.

[858] Yeah, clean water.

[859] Well, you know, my friend Justin Wren, who's been on the podcast a couple Thomas used to fight in UFC and has dedicated his life to helping pygmies out in the Congo.

[860] And he spends six months out of every year in the Congo working with these pygmies.

[861] One of the things that we did because of the podcast that he and I did together is we had people donate money on Bitcoin.

[862] And then whatever they donated, I matched it.

[863] And we used that money to buy wells in the Congo.

[864] So these people, he made videos and photographs of these wells that they put together.

[865] Wow.

[866] Oh, so incredible.

[867] You know, I had a Josh Doer who wrote a book on memory.

[868] Let me tell people before you say that, before that, fight for the forgotten .com.

[869] Fight for the forgotten .com.

[870] If you're interested, it details Justin's thing, just I don't want to gloss over it.

[871] And you can donate to, and we're going to have another drive soon.

[872] And I'm going to, whatever anybody puts in, I'll match.

[873] And, you know, hopefully we'll build a bunch more wells there.

[874] It's a real pain the dick because you've got to bribe a bunch of people over there.

[875] He goes into great detail about the process of bringing equipment over and how much you have to bribe people and things get held up for weeks because everybody wants their cut.

[876] It's a real disaster.

[877] It's so hard because so much of, I had, what's his name, Warren Buffett's son who has $7 billion.

[878] His father said, here's a billion dollars, go change the world.

[879] Now it's up to $7 billion.

[880] Go change the world.

[881] And his son, who's a farmer, realized that farming practices in places like Africa were just not where they need to be.

[882] And he was talking about how hard it is, you know, with building wells and just infrastructure.

[883] They just don't have infrastructure.

[884] They have roads.

[885] They don't have things like that.

[886] Property rights are huge.

[887] And then civil war and all that other stuff.

[888] That other stuff, civil war and that other stuff.

[889] Civil war is a big goddamn issue.

[890] And then there are other unforeseen consequences.

[891] It was really interesting.

[892] They were talking about building wells and I think it was Tanzania.

[893] My aunt was very involved in that.

[894] And so they would dig these wells and so that the women didn't have to go all the way down to the river bank and, by the way, deal with crocodiles and also put water in, you know, the thing, their jugs carried them on their heads and walking another mile back to the village.

[895] What was interesting what happened and the wells ultimately turned out to be a very good thing which is what is this thing called again?

[896] Fight for the forgotten.

[897] Fight for the forgotten, yeah.

[898] wells are ultimately needed and a very good thing but one of the things they had to deal with was that when the women were no longer going down to the riverbank as a group the fabric of the village started to change a little bit and socially and what was happening was that when women would go down to the bank what they didn't realize is that that's where they would gossip and that's where they would bond that's where they would spend their time and talk with each other and help each other out and things like that.

[899] And when that was taken away, they had to kind of like readjust and it became kind of an issue for a while.

[900] But this guy, it's kind of a lame story, this guy Josh Doer, I had on my podcast, who wrote a book about memory.

[901] And his next project was he lived with the pygmies of the Congo.

[902] And he went in a deep, deep bush where they were really still very primitive.

[903] And I said, what's it like?

[904] What was it like there?

[905] Like, you know, he said, well, they're very happy people.

[906] They smoke copious amounts of weed Did you know that?

[907] Really?

[908] They smoke copious amounts of wheat He said it's crazy They're high fucking all day long And they have really strong bonds They do die of shitty things Like they'll die They're pretty healthy But they'll die of like infections And shit they don't have to die from them Parasites Yeah they just don't have Antibiotics and things like that But for the most part They just spend all day high as fuck That's crazy Yeah I didn't know that Yeah, it was the one thing I got from it.

[909] I was like, what do they like?

[910] I wanted to hear what they...

[911] Like, what's their society like?

[912] They're so primitive and stuff.

[913] He's like, yeah, they're happy and they hunt.

[914] They spend a lot of time hunting.

[915] They hunt monkeys with blow guns.

[916] They do all that stuff.

[917] Birds.

[918] They have all different ways of catching meat.

[919] They live primarily on a meat diet.

[920] I watch you to see Ronella's video, the thing that he did in Bolivia, where they killed a monkey and ate it.

[921] Fuck, man. Crazy.

[922] It's really weird to see.

[923] What of the monkeys do they eat?

[924] They eat all the meat.

[925] They even cooked the head, man. Really?

[926] Yeah, which I was like, wait a minute.

[927] Should be eating monkey brains.

[928] I don't think so.

[929] They say that's where AIDS am I'm mutated from.

[930] I don't think that's what they say.

[931] They say it definitely came from monkeys.

[932] There's actually a radio lab podcast on the origins of AIDS.

[933] I believe it's called Patient Zero.

[934] They're called Patient Zero the first person.

[935] And they think that it was a hunter, and that the hunter caught himself.

[936] Wow.

[937] And then in cutting the monkey, like, butchering a monkey, it got it in his blood.

[938] And maybe even more than one animal got into his blood.

[939] Wow.

[940] Yeah.

[941] And mutated, the virus mutated?

[942] Yeah.

[943] They say that now that the AIDS virus has had to mutate so often because of the protease inhibitors, that pretty soon is going to be a disease that just doesn't manifest itself as.

[944] that life -threatening illness.

[945] Yeah, I've heard that.

[946] That's really fascinating, isn't it?

[947] Crazy.

[948] It's literally getting bred out.

[949] Yeah.

[950] Because it's had to compromise itself so often that it's had a weak in itself, which apparently is a life course of a lot of viruses where they'll have to continue to mutate based on, you know, the challenges that they're met with based on people's immune system, their own gene mutations, and all that stuff.

[951] It's pretty wild.

[952] Yeah, this patient's here was really fascinating.

[953] one.

[954] Radio Lab's one of my favorite podcasts.

[955] Always really interesting stuff.

[956] But this one about AIDS was one of the more fascinating ones because it detailed how far back the original AIDS cases was or HIV cases was.

[957] The 40s or the 30s?

[958] The 30s, I think, I didn't believe it was.

[959] Yeah, they called it.

[960] My aunt lived in Zaire for many years and she said, they called it the slimming disease where you get, you catch something and you just waste a way.

[961] like that.

[962] Look at all those hawks.

[963] Yeah, it's crazy.

[964] There's like 20 hawks above us.

[965] Buzzards.

[966] Circling.

[967] Those aren't buzzards.

[968] No. No, those are birds of prey.

[969] If there are buzzards, they'd be circling over something dead, right?

[970] I think, yeah.

[971] What do you call that ornithology?

[972] Ornithology?

[973] I'm an ornithologist.

[974] Bird study?

[975] I study birds.

[976] I've got a fucking owl in my yard, dude.

[977] Holy shit, it's this cock sucker big.

[978] I love owls.

[979] They're so big, man. You don't realize how big they are until you see them sitting on your backboard.

[980] Giant Wingsman.

[981] They're big, man. It's a fucking two -foot -tall bird.

[982] This thing's huge.

[983] It's a big bird.

[984] It's huge.

[985] I mean, it might not be really two -poise.

[986] Two -on -two -old.

[987] Yeah, it might be two feet tall.

[988] Yeah.

[989] For the podcast, it's two feet tall.

[990] For the podcast, it's bigger.

[991] I was driving once, and I observed one that was in the process of killing a rabbit.

[992] And he killed a rabbit right next to the rabbit.

[993] road and as I was pulling down the street my car was loud and I guess my car scared it so it flew with the bird the bird flew with the rabbit in its claws and then you know what fuck this and it let the rabbit go and just took off wow so I pulled the car over and got out and I found this gutted rabbit just like he just torn the guts out of it and just released it because he just thought I was too sketchy with my car I guess he's just he got it too close the road and wanted to fly off with the rabbit.

[994] We're just like, this motherfucker might have it gone.

[995] I've got to let this rabbit go.

[996] Nature is just cruel to its...

[997] I was watching this special on lions.

[998] I want to talk about lions where the males come in, kill all the babies of the other ones.

[999] And then sometimes they'll kill some of the females, too.

[1000] They'll attack the females.

[1001] And then they'll try to make nice one.

[1002] Yeah, I've probably watched the same one where they ran this older male out and these three males tore this male apart.

[1003] Oh, so hard to watch, man. which shouldn't be hard to watch a lion getting bit by another lion but it was brutal and they were biting his head one of them was biting his haunches just tearing his hips apart they're vicious man yeah freaking giant titing into his ass and his legs he's like fuck the thing waddles off and dies slowly yeah it was all fucked up its face was all swollen covered with cuts sits there licking its wounds until sometimes hyaid is closed in on you at night ooh dog it and you're gonna die biting.

[1004] Hyenas.

[1005] Fucking terrifying monsters.

[1006] You know, hyenas are the only that we know of matriarchal mammal where the female actually develops a fake dick.

[1007] Yeah.

[1008] They have a fake dimaphradites.

[1009] Well, it's not a hermaphrodite.

[1010] They're not.

[1011] It's a faux penis.

[1012] It doesn't have any sexual organs.

[1013] Say faux penis again.

[1014] Foe penis.

[1015] I have one of those.

[1016] You have a faux penis.

[1017] Yeah, I wear it sometimes.

[1018] I strap it to myself.

[1019] Well, they have it from nature.

[1020] Imagine that nature giving you a fake set of tits to impress women with?

[1021] I call it a mock penis, you call it a foie.

[1022] Well, they would get on top of males and fuck them with it.

[1023] Really?

[1024] Oh, Jesus.

[1025] And they have a hard dick.

[1026] It gets hard.

[1027] Talk about taking my masculinity away from me. And they're bigger.

[1028] Yeah, the females are bigger, yeah.

[1029] They run, they rule the roost.

[1030] And I believe hyenas are one of the few mammals, maybe the only where the babies will commit fratricide.

[1031] They'll kill each other.

[1032] Of course they will.

[1033] the monsters.

[1034] That's the reason why the women are bigger is to keep the males from eating the babies.

[1035] Wow.

[1036] What a brutal fucking world they live in.

[1037] It's just evolved.

[1038] Yeah, that's how you live.

[1039] You want to live in a Savannah?

[1040] Okay, well, it's going to be hard.

[1041] If you think about how, if you think about the history of our world, I mean, men would come into other countries, villages, towns.

[1042] Yeah.

[1043] I mean, Constantinople.

[1044] Constantinople, I had a history professor say, think about what it sounded like when a civilization, what's the sound of a civilization being destroyed?

[1045] Constantinople, those walls had stood for a thousand years until the Turks dragged a hundred -foot cannon over the course of, it took them a hundred days or something, a glass of those walls down, killed all the men and sold all the women and children into slavery.

[1046] That was always the way it was.

[1047] And he said, think about what that sounded like, where your town, which then became what?

[1048] Istanbul.

[1049] Istanbul.

[1050] used to be Constantinople.

[1051] Constantine, the father of Christianity in the East, he converted and said, yes, Jesus is Messiah, yes, there is something called Jesus is Lord.

[1052] I've decided that and now this would be.

[1053] And that was the founding of two papacies, two different popes.

[1054] One Pope in the East, one Pope in Rome.

[1055] Well, if you think about it the last couple hundred years, it really been one of the first times ever in human history, where when a boat showed up on your shore, it wasn't a bad thing.

[1056] Isn't that right?

[1057] Now, like, if a boat shows up on shore, it's tourists.

[1058] Hey, people are going to get out and they're going to spend their American money.

[1059] That's so true.

[1060] They were talking about how the Vikings, when they came in with their longboats into the Sen, into Paris, into the heart of Paris.

[1061] And I think the average Parisian was like 5 '4, and those Vikings came in with their swords and just on horseback or whatever they...

[1062] You know Vikings weren't that tall either?

[1063] I just thought Vikings were giant.

[1064] They're like 5 -7.

[1065] Come on, man. Come on, dude.

[1066] Yeah.

[1067] They went to Sweden.

[1068] They're huge.

[1069] They are now.

[1070] You know why?

[1071] They get protein.

[1072] They drink milk and they eat meat.

[1073] They weren't that big back then.

[1074] Really?

[1075] Yeah.

[1076] I think we have these distorted notions about the size of people in the past.

[1077] I hate real history.

[1078] It's so much more boring.

[1079] Well, it might not have been all of them.

[1080] I mean, there might have been some giant ones.

[1081] Yeah, some.

[1082] But I think...

[1083] Today, people have so much more access to protein.

[1084] We're just getting much larger people.

[1085] Look at the football.

[1086] Look at the National Football League.

[1087] They all come out of...

[1088] The big white guys come out of Minnesota.

[1089] That's all Norwegian stock.

[1090] I just stand up in Minnesota.

[1091] I'm telling you, man. I was just like everybody was just long thigh bones.

[1092] Doug, Doug Duren.

[1093] Oh, God.

[1094] A gigantic Wisconsinite.

[1095] Doug's just a giant.

[1096] Just the big man with those huge hands.

[1097] Yeah, well, that's not, well, he's talking about getting protein.

[1098] Yeah.

[1099] Guy grows his own cows and shoots deer every year.

[1100] Yeah.

[1101] I had to share a blind with that giant.

[1102] I barely had room to move.

[1103] I miss that dude.

[1104] He's a great guy.

[1105] I love that dude.

[1106] Doug Duren.

[1107] Doug Duren is good people.

[1108] He's probably listening to this right now.

[1109] Love that guy.

[1110] Yeah, we gotta get up there this year.

[1111] It's like, there's too many places to visit now.

[1112] It's one thing that's been awesome about all this hunting.

[1113] So I've met all these cool people and gotten invited on all these cool hunting trips.

[1114] But there's just not enough time to go on all these trips.

[1115] I got to, like, be selective.

[1116] There's not enough time to do everything you want.

[1117] I want to do everything.

[1118] I wish I didn't have to sleep I could train Live a different life I could roll at night Yeah if I had a bunch of bodies Work on my footwork my boxing footwork Work on my tennis stroke Work away footwork You want to work on your footwork I'm 48 years old And I watch video on boxing footwork Just in case Well it is beautiful To watch someone is really good at it I was watching So I was watching Kovalov Just do drills Getting ready for the For the Bernard Hopkins fight yeah there's something really cool about watching someone who's slick you know who moves left and right right left and you can't catch him you can't find him like Floyd Mayweather is not the most exciting boxer to watch but there's some massive artistry to what he does well mainly he doesn't get hit and he fights you know killers it's going to be really interesting to see what Pacchio can do because Pacio not only hits you from so many different angles, but he throws five, six punch combinations.

[1119] Yeah.

[1120] He's a machine gun puncher.

[1121] He's a machine gun puncher.

[1122] He's ridiculously fast.

[1123] He hits really fucking hard.

[1124] And he puts himself in danger, which is something that Mayweather doesn't do.

[1125] Mayweather's just way more crafty.

[1126] He's way slicker as a boxer.

[1127] Well, he's very well -schooled, too.

[1128] His father and uncle were such good boxers.

[1129] Yeah, no doubt.

[1130] Yeah.

[1131] Shit up.

[1132] You know, there's an interesting story about the last guy to beat Mayweather.

[1133] was this guy from Bulgaria who was an excellent boxer who beat Mayweather in a kind of a questionable decision and had this horrible life and got involved with organized crime and all those shitty things that happened to him but apparently he thinks that beating Mayweather he was the last guy was like one of the worst things that's ever happened to him.

[1134] Wow.

[1135] And he haunts him because Mayweather has gone on to be worth some, he's worth like $200 ,000.

[1136] $50 million, so crazy.

[1137] And this guy's broke, you know?

[1138] Well, it's very, very...

[1139] Sometimes not being able to manage victory, sometimes getting what you want that quickly, you see it with, you know, people who get famous at too young and age and have too much money to spend.

[1140] Well, certainly, but I think in his case it was a little more complicated than that.

[1141] It was a lot to do with rigged fights.

[1142] And, like, even perhaps the finals in the Olympics, he was told that the only way who had beat the guy in the finals was to knock him out, and he wasn't that kind of a fighter.

[1143] He was a boxer, like a really slick boxer.

[1144] It wasn't a knockout puncher.

[1145] He wasn't like a Mike Tyson -type character.

[1146] He talked about that, because he had beaten that, the guy who won the finals in Atlanta that year was a Thai fighter.

[1147] And the guy from Thailand, this guy from Bulgaria had beaten in previous contest.

[1148] This guy was a world champion.

[1149] He was a really, like, high -level, high -level boxer, a very slick boxer.

[1150] And they were telling him that the only way he could beat this tie was if he had knocked him out.

[1151] So, that was sort of letting him know, listen to fix is in.

[1152] Yeah.

[1153] And an organized in amateur boxing, they've always had a huge problem with corrupt scoring.

[1154] I didn't know that.

[1155] Yeah.

[1156] Famously, Roy Jones Jr. versus the Korean fighter in the finals of the, I think it was the 88 Olympics.

[1157] Yeah.

[1158] It was in Seoul.

[1159] And he beat the fucking shit out of this guy.

[1160] I mean, Roy Jones Jr., in his prime, As an amateur boxer, it was just ridiculously fast.

[1161] He didn't even use a jab.

[1162] It's just so crazy.

[1163] Well, he used a left hook.

[1164] Yeah.

[1165] He was a left hook like a jab.

[1166] So nuts.

[1167] He had a jab.

[1168] If you wanted to jab you, he could jab you.

[1169] But he could do something that nobody else could do is that left hook.

[1170] He threw a left hook like a jab.

[1171] So crazy.

[1172] He was, in his prime.

[1173] There was nothing like him.

[1174] I love watching that stuff because, you know, I was watching the Cubans practice.

[1175] Again, on YouTube.

[1176] I'm watching, like, you know, the national.

[1177] Cuban champion practice with Mitz.

[1178] What was really interesting is watching him with this little guy, and very few punches were thrown.

[1179] It was more foot movement.

[1180] He was practicing where to punch from.

[1181] And once in a while, boom, throw a jab.

[1182] Once a while, bupah, with two shots.

[1183] But it was really conservative movement.

[1184] If you look at, like, the way Mayweather fights, he very rarely throws the right hand.

[1185] A lot of it's like he sets it, jabs, upper, you know, an uppercut, then he'll throw, but he throws very few punches.

[1186] Yeah, he's very economical.

[1187] Yeah.

[1188] Because if you unload a bunch of punches like Pacquiao does, you leave yourself open.

[1189] I mean, one of the things that makes Pacquiao so exciting is that he's kind of vulnerable.

[1190] But then you see, like, the Juan Manuel Marquez fight, he got knocked out.

[1191] And it's because of that very same aggressive attacking style.

[1192] But when Mayweather fought Juan Manuel Marquez, he's shutting down.

[1193] Right now.

[1194] Like, there was no offense to me. Well, that's what I've been thinking about, too, when it comes to it.

[1195] Because Marquez has given Pacquiao serious fights.

[1196] A lot of people thought he won the first two.

[1197] factor the first fight and and so marquez and packees were always very very matched marcus is a hell of a fighter and when i when you when you look at what mayweather was able to do the marquess you wonder whether or not it's going to be able to do the same thing to packeye yeah it's interesting i think marquez is not as fast uh as paciel's way faster but pack yale stood right in front of marquez and in doing so and standing in front of him and trading with him the way he did you're not not trading with him stupidly, it wasn't mindlessly I mean he was landing combinations but he puts himself in danger he gets right in there speaking of putting yourself in danger Jason Ellis did you see Ellis mania where he fought he's out of his mind he is out of his mind we had Yuri Fabra on the fighter and he was talking about how like Yariah was told because you see that your eye for 50 seconds goes nuts on none Jason and I said and Brennan said why did you go so crazy he goes look dude the guy's actually pretty slick and he's not a bad You know, he's got a lot of power.

[1198] He's big, and I'd heard that he was hitting guys and rocking him and knocking some guys out.

[1199] Well, he knocked out Gay Rudiger.

[1200] Gay Rudiger, who was on the ultimate fighter.

[1201] Right.

[1202] It's tough.

[1203] Former W .E .C. Legway champion.

[1204] And he knocked him out.

[1205] He knocked him out with an overhand right.

[1206] Yeah, he could punch.

[1207] Ellis is crazy, man. I had a conversation with him once about how many times it's been shut off.

[1208] And he said he's been shut off about six times from skateboarding, you know?

[1209] Just falling landing in your head.

[1210] I said, why do you do that?

[1211] Why don't you wear heavy?

[1212] He goes, I don't like myself.

[1213] Oh, God.

[1214] Well, he's had a, he's had a rough life now.

[1215] You know, you know his story, his story that he's talked about pretty openly about being sexually abused by his dad.

[1216] Jesus.

[1217] I mean, you don't tattoo a wolf on your fucking head if everything's going great.

[1218] Yeah.

[1219] He's very open about that stuff.

[1220] I like the dude, though.

[1221] He's a good dude.

[1222] Despite all that shit, he's a good dude.

[1223] And that's his therapy.

[1224] You know, his therapy is to go in.

[1225] and go to war.

[1226] Yeah.

[1227] And he spars a lot, man. He gets in there, he gets busy.

[1228] There's videos of it online.

[1229] I mean, he spars fucking hard, man. And we were talking about this before the fight when we were filling up with gas about Jamie Varner, Jamie Varner, who just retired recently from the UFC, was talking about his career and the issues he's having with traumatic brain injury now.

[1230] And he's worried about his future.

[1231] Went to a doctor, and the doctor estimated that he had somewhere.

[1232] around 30 plus concussions and he's starting to have memory issues starting to have issues enunciating words he's seeing a cognitive therapist once a week now and janey's only 33 i think 32 33 really yeah and he only got i always saw him get caoed i think once by abel trojillo um i mean it's crazy yeah he's a real high -level fighter a very good fighter and sparred a lot with bigger guys it's one of the things he's saying cut himself short cut his career short did a lot of sparring with guys like ryan bader ryan bader he fights at two oh five he's a big guy he's a fucking thick dude he's also been fighting since 2003 it's a long time it's a long time 12 years of not just fighting but also of the gym wars yeah well that was i was talking to my buddy who was a european champion twice and bronze medals in the Olympics and he estimated not counting just when he was a kid and all that but he estimated he had 106 fights and including I think 16 or 26 pro fights and he estimated that in getting ready for those fights and those fights a conservative estimate because he took say five punches per round that's conservative like just jabs and stuff he's taken over his course of his lifetime 55 ,000 shots to the head, 55 ,000 shots to that.

[1233] That is so great.

[1234] Because so much of it is in the gym getting ready for those fights.

[1235] Well, George C. Pierre, just fighting the UFC, was hit over 800 times in the head.

[1236] Yeah, 855 times or something crazy.

[1237] Yeah, yeah.

[1238] Just think about that.

[1239] No, thank you.

[1240] From guys like Tiago Alvaz, Josh Koshchek, Johnny Hendricks.

[1241] Monsters.

[1242] Monsters.

[1243] Vitch, you're getting hit in the head by B .J. I mean, guys who, like, can fucking hit you hard, man. And he's getting hit hundreds of times by those guys.

[1244] You're going to have to pull over on the side of the road.

[1245] I'm going to pee.

[1246] Oh, okay.

[1247] I got to pee out of my huge dick.

[1248] Why didn't you just let me know?

[1249] I don't know.

[1250] You didn't have to get to a point where, like, you're going to die.

[1251] Like, how long you think he'd last?

[1252] If you had to bet your life on it.

[1253] If I had to, here's the thing about your bladder.

[1254] It expands.

[1255] So you have an initial panic moment.

[1256] Don't be so sure.

[1257] And then wait?

[1258] Domera knows a guy who had to, He has a fucking catheter.

[1259] He has a piss bag because he ruptured his bladder.

[1260] Yeah, but he's a bitch.

[1261] From holding in his piss.

[1262] Here's the thing, man. You just use your mind.

[1263] Yeah.

[1264] And you just let it, you relax, and let it expand even more.

[1265] Really?

[1266] Yeah.

[1267] What if it tears?

[1268] Well, then it tears, man. Whoa.

[1269] Then I'll suture it.

[1270] You don't give a fuck.

[1271] Who needs a bladder?

[1272] You're crazy.

[1273] They're growing new bladders in petri dishes.

[1274] Yeah, I've heard that.

[1275] Not nuts?

[1276] Yeah.

[1277] They use cartilage, I guess, from, and they spray it with stem cells.

[1278] And it actually, will grow.

[1279] They did that with an esophagus.

[1280] A woman had an esophageal cancer, and they gave her an esophagus transplant.

[1281] Isn't that nuts?

[1282] Yeah, they took a cadaver's exophagus, and they took the cartilage.

[1283] They strip it, and then they spray it with stem cells, and it grows.

[1284] That's the new frontier, and that's so exciting.

[1285] Well, the new frontier, the real exciting thing about is people who've had spinal cord injuries, regrowing spinal cords.

[1286] I hope so, though.

[1287] I just talked to a neurosurgeon who said the two things they just can't fix his bad brain tumors and a broken spinal cord.

[1288] They've been able to regenerate it in rats, though, I believe.

[1289] I hope so.

[1290] Yeah, I hope so, too.

[1291] I mean, I feel like it's just a matter of time.

[1292] It always is, but...

[1293] I mean, you saw that recent story where they were talking about head transplants, just being a few years away.

[1294] Yeah.

[1295] I don't think so.

[1296] What are you, a doctor?

[1297] Yes.

[1298] You don't know.

[1299] A head transplant.

[1300] I'm fucking crazy with that for you.

[1301] They transplant your body on a guy's like your head on Terry Cruz's body.

[1302] Yes.

[1303] I do believe anything is possible.

[1304] Anything you can imagine will eventually be possible.

[1305] And why do you look Samoan from the neck down?

[1306] Because I don't like my body.

[1307] I do a lot of working out.

[1308] And I look at myself and I'm like, damn it, I still look like an accountant.

[1309] Shit.

[1310] Athletic though.

[1311] Vineyards and wine places up here are really one.

[1312] weird places, aren't they?

[1313] Yeah.

[1314] Vineyards.

[1315] I want to live in a vineyard.

[1316] I have such a fantasy of living in Napa, in a chateau, and being a gentleman.

[1317] I want to be just a gentleman in scarves, tweed jackets, pipe.

[1318] I want two German shepherds with German names.

[1319] Shotsdown training.

[1320] Wow, gosh, Shotson.

[1321] Are you kidding?

[1322] They will be, they will be, I was about to say they will be bite trained.

[1323] Only trained to bite men.

[1324] Very good around women and show.

[1325] A higher chick to kill you.

[1326] Then I'd rather die by a woman.

[1327] Wow.

[1328] Yes.

[1329] Not me. If she's like some assassin but really hot...

[1330] Whoa.

[1331] She'll probably make love to me first.

[1332] Do you think?

[1333] I'll be overcome.

[1334] Yes.

[1335] She'll probably make you think she's going to make love to you.

[1336] Yeah, and I'll die with a hard on.

[1337] Not a bad way to die.

[1338] No, you'll die with a half a hard on.

[1339] Okay.

[1340] I'll let you get fully hard.

[1341] Really?

[1342] Damn it.

[1343] There's some blood going...

[1344] And I die.

[1345] Yeah, with that...

[1346] Like, the silence her.

[1347] Yeah, that's right.

[1348] Those ideas are great about living out.

[1349] here but how are you going to do stand -up boring boring i know how about your neighbors he's going to come over all peeled up tell you some stupid stories about his wife i got a piece so badly okay i'll uh take the next exit here probably i'll be on the road and a nine hour podcast so far how long we've been doing this for you think if you had a guess uh not more than an hour no come on man an hour in nine minutes wow there you're pretty good at this not bad so i'll take each next in a while i got a bladder full of peepee I'll take this exit Okay, we're gonna pull over here So Brian can pee And what he does I'm gonna talk shit about his hog Yeah, gotta pee something You gotta pull out of the holster He'll pull out of his cat He's got a joke in mine, you know what I'm gonna piss I like to have a voice like this I got piss I don't want to get arrested This is like aggressive about saying piss I don't want to get arrested for you having to dick out I'll pay the fine It's not a fine dude, it's jail You're Joe Rogan, you're not gonna get arrested You say that dude but you never know.

[1350] Holy shit, Joe Rogan, and that guy who looks like Joe Rogan?

[1351] But what if there's a guy who, like, wanted to try out for Fear Factor, but never got on?

[1352] Then you're in trouble.

[1353] Then I'll sweet talk him.

[1354] I've talked my way out of a lot of speeding tickets.

[1355] All right, I'm going to pull over right here, just run out into the fields and pretend you lost your keys.

[1356] You're just right near your truck, bro.

[1357] Don't kid yourself.

[1358] I'm not running out in those fields.

[1359] Yeah, all right.

[1360] There is.

[1361] All right.

[1362] Brian is now about to step out of the vehicle to urinate.

[1363] The car is in park.

[1364] I'm pulling a dick out on an empty, and if he, If he pulls it off, I'm going to climb out, and I'm going to pee.

[1365] And then...

[1366] Oh, my goodness.

[1367] Yeah, he's peeing.

[1368] My dick is so painfully small right now.

[1369] Why is it so small?

[1370] It's like a turtle.

[1371] It's pulling itself into my body.

[1372] Why is your dick do that when you have to pee?

[1373] When I got to pee bad, it goes into combat mode.

[1374] But wait a minute.

[1375] What about pee hard -ons?

[1376] Don't you get pee hard -ons?

[1377] No, when I got to fight or pee, my dick pulls way in.

[1378] It protects itself.

[1379] Can't even see my balls right now.

[1380] That's weird.

[1381] That's very unusual.

[1382] Most people, when they have to pee, their dick gets hard.

[1383] Yeah, but I also order extra small meandies.

[1384] I like it real tight.

[1385] Do you think you're doing damage to your dick and balls?

[1386] Hopefully.

[1387] Keeps me sin free.

[1388] Why don't you just take salt peter like priests do?

[1389] I do that too.

[1390] What is that salt peter stuff?

[1391] What is that a testosterone?

[1392] Apparently they put it in the water in fucking jails.

[1393] Do they really?

[1394] Yeah, keep you from getting rid of them.

[1395] They really do that?

[1396] I've heard that.

[1397] How can they do that?

[1398] You can do that?

[1399] You can just experiment with prisons?

[1400] That's what they say.

[1401] Can you do that?

[1402] You can, like, don't tell them what you're doing?

[1403] I don't know, I guess so.

[1404] I use a leather belt.

[1405] I just strap it around my fucking piece.

[1406] How big is your belt?

[1407] Is it a thick belt or one of those little skinny dress belts?

[1408] It's a thin belt because it's got to get around the base of my dong and my balls.

[1409] Poor thing looks purple.

[1410] I don't even recognize my dick sometimes.

[1411] This looks like a lump of purple.

[1412] I watched a video once of a guy explaining how to stretch your cock out.

[1413] I'm still peeing, by the way.

[1414] They can elongate your dick.

[1415] I hope somebody timed that pee.

[1416] And finished.

[1417] Have you ever heard of someone elongating their dick?

[1418] They stretch dicks out.

[1419] I'm going to step out now too.

[1420] Oh, now you got to pee.

[1421] Beer pressure.

[1422] I don't have to, but my bladder is amazing.

[1423] You know why?

[1424] Because of doing that goddamn podcast.

[1425] Doing those three -hour podcasts with coffee.

[1426] Like people always say to me, like, how the fuck do you not pee?

[1427] Like, they run out of the podcast to pee.

[1428] and from five years of doing it I think my bladder's super used to it Very very elastic Yeah I get on planes I fly for like six hours and not pee All right talking to that thing All right Joe is now going to pee himself Let's see what he's working with I actually have an ungood authority He's got a piece on him So let's see what happens There it is Short but thick ladies gentlemen There it is like there he is There's the famous Joe Rogan And you're like hey hey hey Is that Joe Rogan pee?

[1429] Yeah let's see if it's clear No, a little yellow, buddy.

[1430] Little yellow.

[1431] Got to get you, got to get you hydrated.

[1432] No, I take vitamins, you fuck.

[1433] It's from all your antioxidants?

[1434] All my vitamins.

[1435] There you go.

[1436] How many vitamins you take today?

[1437] None today, last night.

[1438] But I take little packs.

[1439] That's it.

[1440] That's all I peed.

[1441] I wonder.

[1442] He's got nothing going on.

[1443] All right, ladies, gentlemen.

[1444] Sixteen ounces of coffee, and that was all my pee.

[1445] Sixteen ounces of coffee.

[1446] I'm amazing.

[1447] I'm amazing.

[1448] Amazing.

[1449] Everybody absorbs.

[1450] All right, we're back in here.

[1451] Back in the saddle again.

[1452] And back to the wilds of the wine country where we're going to hunt birds that you can find in a supermarket.

[1453] We're going to hunt hard.

[1454] Hard birds.

[1455] We hunt hard and true the way we fuck.

[1456] Apparently these birds taste way different.

[1457] I've never had wild turkey.

[1458] I have the booze.

[1459] It's very dark meat.

[1460] Yeah, that's what I've heard.

[1461] I've heard it's tough.

[1462] I've heard you got to cook it right.

[1463] I'm going to show you a video that I haven't said to me of being chased by four wild turkeys.

[1464] Ha, I would have let them catch me. I would have beat the fuck out of them.

[1465] They're an aggressive bird.

[1466] No, not aggressive enough.

[1467] I'll beat the fuck out of a turkey.

[1468] You ever actually had turkeys come after you?

[1469] They're notoriously skittish.

[1470] They run from people.

[1471] Oh, they chased me around the car for a half hour.

[1472] We haven't on video.

[1473] Why didn't you kill them?

[1474] Well, I would have done it just for America.

[1475] I was a little afraid of them.

[1476] I mean, I would have killed that bird.

[1477] I'll tell you if a bird's not hearing a piece of peep out of you.

[1478] What bird?

[1479] It's a fucking ostrich.

[1480] Yeah, I thought that until I grabbed one by the neck.

[1481] The cunt was trying to bite me in the face.

[1482] Is that true?

[1483] Yeah, on Fear Factor.

[1484] You grabbed it by the neck?

[1485] Yeah.

[1486] What happened?

[1487] Well, I have very strong hands if he didn't like it at all.

[1488] They did have a thin neck.

[1489] How thin is the neck?

[1490] They kicked you, though.

[1491] If he wasn't behind a fence, I wouldn't have done it because he would have kicked me. But then I would have taken his back.

[1492] What fuck?

[1493] I don't think so.

[1494] Do you think I could ride him?

[1495] I guess you can ride him.

[1496] You know, I thought about this when it comes to kangaroos.

[1497] You know, kangaroos will fuck you up.

[1498] They'll kick this shit out of you.

[1499] Only in the males.

[1500] But I think I could arm drag one and take its back.

[1501] Really?

[1502] Dude, I'm a black belt and jihitsu.

[1503] Kangaroos never had anybody take their back like I can.

[1504] Especially if I get on this right arm.

[1505] That's my strong side.

[1506] My strong side is the right side.

[1507] If you ever know, if I arm drag your right arm, you're in trouble.

[1508] If I arm drag your left arm I got some holes in my game on the left side I got some holes in my left arm drag game My transition between the left arm drag and the right arm around the neck It's not as quick Who have you rolled with that just Like just completely outclassed you as a jihitsu guy Because you're a legit blackout Well Eddie Bravo always outclasses me Jake Shields mauled me Jake Shields just mauled you Yeah he mauled me I kept him on for like a minute and a half with sheer strength and athleticism then I got tired and it was a pin festival or a tap festival rather just closed in on you yeah he just crushed me um but he's bigger than me and better than me you know and that was I was lighter back then too I was one of like a few guys like that are what led me to really get into heavy lifting weights too I mean technique is the most important thing for sure and people reading this that are into jujitsu oh man you don't fucking you don't know shit about Jiu -Jitsu, if you think it's important to be strong, listen to me. It is very, very, very important to be strong.

[1509] Having great technique is more important.

[1510] But if you have great technique, if two people have equal technique, their technique is just as good.

[1511] And the one person that's physically stronger, that person will absolutely have an advantage.

[1512] And that's the one thing, there's two things you can change.

[1513] You can change your technique and you can change your physical strength and only changing one of those and my idea is very short -sighted now if you were in a weight class like say if you're competing at 155 pounds and you didn't want to gain any weight because then it wouldn't be you know you'd have to cut weight it would fuck you up that totally make sense to me don't do that but don't get so big you like a bodybuilder and you know your your muscles need all that blood and so it robs you of oxygen don't do that either but the reality of human athletic endeavors is mass and strength and speed all those come into practice all those come into to play like just technique it's not the only thing that's important it is a very important thing it's probably the most important thing is technique but it doesn't mean that you can't also be physically strong and that physical strength won't benefit you because it absolutely does especially defensively physical strength keeps you from getting caught in a lot of shit.

[1514] If, again, if you already have technique, and when you add in, like, striking, physical strength can keep you out of positions and allow you to strike people where someone with better technique, if you weren't nearly strong, would be able to take you down.

[1515] Like, try taking down Shane Carwin.

[1516] You know what I'm saying?

[1517] I mean, Shane Carwin might not have as good jiu -jitsu as, you know, fill in the blank somebody else, but good luck fucking taking him to the round, partly is because of his technique as a wrestler, but don't think that there's a lot of guys that don't have really good wrestling technique.

[1518] Like Clay Guida has really good wrestling technique.

[1519] Do you think that Clay Guida could stop Shane Carwin from taking him down?

[1520] No, Shane's so much bigger and stronger.

[1521] Do you think Clay could take Shane down?

[1522] No, good fucking luck.

[1523] Good luck.

[1524] Physical strength does matter.

[1525] If I put you if I gave you five exercises, only and you can only do five exercises what would they be to build strength deadlift would be number one because deadlift works your arms it works your back it works your traps it works your grip strength it works your legs it works your whole core like everything it works your abs dead lifts the king of all lifts in my opinion I probably do it too much it fucks with your back if you do it too much and if I'm a meat head so I do lift too heavy sometimes but I think the deadlift is probably number one squats a big one cleans power cleans clean and press like that would be like one group movement clean press that would be one like just those what about bench that is important right it's not nearly as important it's not bad it's good defensively jujitsu wise it's very good defensively what do you do with kettlebells I do everything with kettlebells I'm such a huge fan of kettlebells I like big compound movements, man Yeah Like I like clean press squat That's one of my favorites With kettlebells because it's so ruthless If you clean like double clean Right like two 70s You take one 70 in each hand You swing them between your legs Clean them Press them overhead And then drop down to a squat And then all the way back up It's a lot of weight While it's pressed over your head and then start all over again, clean press squat.

[1526] When you go through 10 of those, dude, you're fucking exhausted.

[1527] Yeah, that's a crazy way.

[1528] Because it's not just the crazy weight because you could do the same thing.

[1529] The movement is a bitch, yeah.

[1530] It's a large group of movements, and it just makes your entire body, like, strong and rigid and able to move, like, with a full range of motion with all that weight.

[1531] I like doing Turkish get -ups Turkish get -ups are not a glamorous exercise like people you don't see people getting excited about doing it because it's awkward and it's you know it requires a lot of movement there's a lot going on but it's also one of those things that's where you lie down and you have your arm straight up right and you first you lie down your back and you kind of have your arm racked right you have the kettlebell racked arm you extend your arm up and then you get up and there's technique to it yeah yeah there's technique to it you know you you get up on one arm you have one leg underneath you if you're interested in do it anybody's interested in do it there's a bunch of pretty good instructional so you can get online but here's the number one thing that I always say to anybody when it comes to kettlebells start light there's a really good workout that I do with 35 fucking pounds and it's a I mean, I've been lifting weights for a long goddamn time, but I have a great workout that I do with 35 pounds, and it's plenty.

[1532] It sounds ridiculous.

[1533] Like, how could one 35 -pound weight be enough?

[1534] Right.

[1535] But if you, like, Keith Weber, kettlebell cardio, extreme kettlebell cardio workout, DVD, he does it on the beach, and I think he uses a 35 -pounder.

[1536] I use a 45 -something, sometimes, sometimes a 50 -pounder, 52 -pounder.

[1537] And it's a goddamn brutal workout.

[1538] You use one kettlebell.

[1539] That's all you need.

[1540] Keith Weber.

[1541] Yeah.

[1542] He's been a podcast guest, too.

[1543] Great guy.

[1544] Knows a lot about strength and conditioning and kettlebells for the use of conditioning.

[1545] This is one of the best exercises.

[1546] Where they come out of Russia?

[1547] Yeah.

[1548] It's a badass motherfucker from Russia.

[1549] Yeah.

[1550] Those Russian scientists who came up with, they did a lot of the pioneering research on steroids and stuff like that.

[1551] They sure did on their women.

[1552] On their women!

[1553] They did, man. There's some women track and field.

[1554] records that still have never been broken.

[1555] One of the women became, one of the shot hunters, became a man. Of course she did.

[1556] Because she just was, she just became.

[1557] Yeah, she'd been taking so many steroids somewhere, you know, she just developed an Adam's apple.

[1558] Yeah.

[1559] Her clip looked like a dick after a while.

[1560] She was like, well, I think it's time.

[1561] I just fuck it.

[1562] Oh, man, now.

[1563] Yeah, bug it.

[1564] Yeah, it's a weird thing that they're doing, man. Well, there's a New York Times article recently about gene doping, and that that's going to be the new issue that they're going to have to deal with with cheating in athletics.

[1565] Yeah.

[1566] Brian looks Samoan's up.

[1567] Well, that's, you know, that's the next stage.

[1568] They're going to manipulate genetics.

[1569] They're going to be able to literally change, like, the design of the body.

[1570] Like, your body is supposed to be six feet tall and this amount wide and this amount of mass. Not anymore.

[1571] Now it's going to be six foot six, and it's going to be just as wide.

[1572] and you're going to have fucking thicker bones and you're going to be built like Neanderthal.

[1573] It's so crazy.

[1574] Yeah, they're going to be able to do weird shit in our lifetime.

[1575] In our lifetime, we're going to see some of the strangest athletes ever.

[1576] Yeah, I think I was thinking about that.

[1577] There'll probably be like the Natural League, the Organic League, and then the Hydroponic League.

[1578] That's hilarious.

[1579] I wonder if that's true.

[1580] Well, it would have to be.

[1581] How are you going to competition when you have linemen that are 500 pounds, and built like, you know, silverbacks.

[1582] You know, there's a real issue with football, period, now.

[1583] I mean, there's a lot of people that are debating whether or not football even has a future.

[1584] I think, ultimately, as far as you're near future, it certainly does.

[1585] But there's a lot of people now that are aware of the damage that's being done when you're playing football on a regular basis that went before.

[1586] Like, there's this young guy who just 24 years old, is an NFL player who just retired.

[1587] And he was a defensive player here, I think.

[1588] You know, Matt Maitreone, who was on a podcast, said he's got his son, and his son wants to play football.

[1589] And Matt played football, I think, for seven years in the NFL.

[1590] Matt said, absolutely not.

[1591] When you're 16 or 17 and your brain is way more developed, we can talk about it.

[1592] We can have a discussion about it.

[1593] You're not playing football now when you're 11 or 12.

[1594] Not happening.

[1595] Blunk up your head while you were 11, man. But that's what you did.

[1596] You always pee -we league.

[1597] You played tackle football.

[1598] I mean, you know?

[1599] Yeah, what was that dude's name, I forget his name, something, Henry, who died, he had some sort of a crazy thing going on with his girlfriend, she was yelling, she took her off in his truck, he jumped on the back of the truck, fell.

[1600] He was a wide receiver, he fell out of the truck, and fell out of the car, hit his head, died, so they do an autopsy on this cat, and find out he's got a brain of an 80 -year -old Alzheimer's patient, and he was 28 years old.

[1601] Yeah, I mean, his brain was fucked.

[1602] All this traumatic brain injury evidence in his brain, and then he's got a brain.

[1603] they're saying like look man this is not this is not like an aberration this is a lot of these guys they're running around they look normal they're acting fairly normal but if you notice one of the things that football players are known for is being kind of reckless right they're known for having poor impulse control yeah he's like well there it is that's that's what this is when you're looking at a guy like that who was an active NFL player an excellent football player a great athlete and he does something as nutty as jumps on his fucking girlfriend's truck when she's trying to pull away falls down, hits his head and dies like that's poor impulse control, right?

[1604] That's someone being reckless and then when they do an autopsy on them and they find out of those brains cooked from all the years of playing football that is what's happening.

[1605] It does make you really wonder on so many different levels as we learn more about the brain and more about why people behave the way they do or why you know, or how much damage is really being done, it does sour you, it really does make you wonder about the future.

[1606] Like, you know, even, even, I was talking about this, I think maybe even on your podcast, but, you know, as they learn more about what a serial killer's brain looks like, or for that matter, even pedophiles, they find a lot of them are left -handed, so it might be a neurological thing, or at least have its origin somewhere.

[1607] So if that's the case, then if, say, let's just say that a pedophile, is essentially that's something that is genetic or there's something that went on.

[1608] If that's the case, then that's a handicap.

[1609] You could technically say you're mentally handicapped.

[1610] And then you have to ask, if that's the case, then does he fall under the Americans with Disabilities Act?

[1611] Because if not, then you have to define what the difference is.

[1612] and if the difference is you know, like you were talking about in the beginning of the podcast, you're just not dealing with what would be considered a normal brain.

[1613] Right.

[1614] Well, okay.

[1615] All right.

[1616] So how much of it is his fault?

[1617] Right.

[1618] And how much of it is something that he essentially can't control?

[1619] And does it matter?

[1620] I mean, just because something's not someone's fault if they have some just predetermined inclination to go out and kill people.

[1621] Yes.

[1622] You're going to jail.

[1623] Intent.

[1624] Yeah.

[1625] Yeah, what do you do?

[1626] Put him in jail?

[1627] Yeah, I guess.

[1628] I don't care that you...

[1629] Yeah, I mean, you want to keep society safe.

[1630] That's the idea.

[1631] Well, it's like Hannibal Lecter in those movies, The Silence of the Lambs.

[1632] It seemed like...

[1633] What they were trying to say is here's this brilliant guy who he actually enjoys killing people.

[1634] There's something about him that enjoys killing people.

[1635] Like, what is it?

[1636] Like, what's the tick?

[1637] You know, what causes him to actually enjoy that?

[1638] you get a guy like that and you lock him in an insane asylum and you study him that was what was supposed to be the sort of the premise of the silence of the lambs right yeah and he was uh they're going to use him to figure out how to find this other serial killer this buffalo bill guy when you get a guy like that what do you do with him like do you just kill him i mean do you study him do you lock him in jail is it what is the humane thing to do is it humane to kill him what one way to look at is he a sick dog and you just get rid of him But the other thing is, in a society, if you take into account he's sick, he's a maniac, then he's in a mental hospital or he's in a jail and kept away from society.

[1639] Well, here's the real question.

[1640] Can you fix them?

[1641] If you do fix them, is it okay?

[1642] That's what I was saying?

[1643] What if someone's a pedophile and they fuck your kid and then they fix them?

[1644] What?

[1645] No, you're dead, right?

[1646] You're dead.

[1647] But I was just literally about to bring that question up.

[1648] If they can figure out what the mechanism is and they fix that mechanism, now you have a normal person.

[1649] You're right.

[1650] You have, what does that say about punitive punishment?

[1651] You want revenge, you want him to be punished, but now he doesn't have those impulses anymore.

[1652] Now he's sorry, now he's a normal guy.

[1653] Now, in fact, maybe the idea is abhorrent to him.

[1654] If that technology exists, you're right.

[1655] It really does raise a question.

[1656] What does it say about forgiveness, punishment, and what do you do?

[1657] Well, we have that need for an eye for an eye.

[1658] You find out that some guy murdered somebody.

[1659] You want that person locked away forever.

[1660] You'll find out somebody rapes someone.

[1661] You want that person locked in a fucking cage and kept away from everybody you love and care about.

[1662] So the type of person that does that is an evil person.

[1663] The type of person that would victimize someone is an evil person.

[1664] We want them removed from our society.

[1665] But if you find out it's just a disease...

[1666] Well, and by the way, what if he was 17 when he did it?

[1667] He's an adolescent.

[1668] He'd been victimized.

[1669] He kills somebody.

[1670] He's 45 now.

[1671] And his brain was very different.

[1672] In fact, when he was 17, his brain hadn't fully developed.

[1673] We know teenagers, I believe it's their frontal cortex, isn't fully developed.

[1674] So they are more impulsive.

[1675] They don't have the part of the brain that makes them more cautious.

[1676] Deep into their 20s.

[1677] Yes.

[1678] So you had a kid with a different brain.

[1679] He goes to jail for doing something horrific.

[1680] He's now 45.

[1681] He's a different person.

[1682] But yet he falls under certain standards.

[1683] statute where he's got to be killed because that's the death penalty.

[1684] I think that was this case with Mumia Jamal and another guy.

[1685] You know, when he went to jail, he was 18 or whatever, 16.

[1686] Now he was 40.

[1687] He's got his master's degree and he helps gang members and just a different human being.

[1688] Do you put him to death?

[1689] Well, isn't it interesting that those are the ages that they want to recruit people for war?

[1690] Yeah.

[1691] They recruit an 18 -year -olds.

[1692] They want to get people fresh out of high school join the army poor impulse control and not really aware of the big picture yet which is really kind of fucked up I've been talking about this lately and I'm probably going to do a bit about it that I don't think I think that the way to stop war is no one under 40 goes to war war is only people over 40 somebody was saying also the other way is if you look at the violent crime it's almost overwhelmingly committed by men between the ages I think of 15 and 23 or something crazy.

[1693] Really?

[1694] He said, yeah, and if a society is really serious about getting rid of all violent crime, just lock up every boy from the age of 15 to 20 or whatever, and you'll cut the rate by 98 % or something.

[1695] So just put them in regimented.

[1696] If you think about most societies in history, by the time you were 17 or whatever, you were carted off, and first you were in boarding school, you were in a special school, and then you went to the army.

[1697] So boys were put in a very regimented place where they were controlled for most of their teens and even into their 20s.

[1698] And then they were released into society.

[1699] Isn't that a big part of our problem as civilization?

[1700] Oh shit, the Hurst Castle.

[1701] We're passing the Hurst Castle, which is where that crazy fuck released as wild boars throughout the land.

[1702] Wild boars everywhere, ladies and gentlemen.

[1703] We're in boar country.

[1704] Boar country.

[1705] What we're dealing with as a civilization, like as a species, is all of the stuff that got us to hear.

[1706] Like all the barbaric acts, all the fighting off the Vikings, all the fighting off the intruders, all the fucking as much as you can because everybody's going to get diseases and so few people are going to survive that you have to be as prolific sexually as possible to ensure that your genetics carry on.

[1707] And that's how we got to 2015.

[1708] That's how we got to this place.

[1709] But in our innovation and in our advancement, in our understanding of medicine, our advancement of infrastructure, cities, we've now hit this point where we kind of don't need a lot of those instincts, those instincts, those violent tendencies that the young have to fight to battle and all the other crazy shit that led us to get to this position is also what's kind of fucking us up and what's putting us in this position where we are over -fucking we all, you know, we do have seven billion goddamn people on the planet and we do have still this huge problem with violence and we're still involved the wars pretty much in every single continent all over the country, all over the world rather.

[1710] It's really weird.

[1711] It's like what got us to the dance now needs to be examined and we need to figure out like how do we fix all this shitty wiring, this operating system that's so outdated.

[1712] We're running this like Windows 95 operating system on this 2015 brain.

[1713] That's a huge question.

[1714] But I think the answer comes from understanding, continuing to research and understanding more.

[1715] I think we're just, you know, human development is always just a process of learning more and more about ourselves.

[1716] And just time, right?

[1717] Yeah.

[1718] Yeah, I feel like that's what's going on too.

[1719] It's like, you know, this religious freedoms act that went through Indiana and all these religious people are freaking out.

[1720] This country's going a hell in a handbasket.

[1721] I found so many people online.

[1722] I was Googling people that were reacting to it, like the people that were against having this act revised.

[1723] and they, you know, it's, it's amazing how many, like, Christians were up in arms and people were trying to change this, and you're just, this is anti -Christianity, and it's purest form, and I just feel like what they're doing, these people that are freaking out about this kind of shit, that are, like, really clinging to these notions, they realize they don't have much time left.

[1724] Like, this is, this is an antiquated way of thinking that just really doesn't have a place anymore and it's just a matter of time as time goes on slowly but surely this stuff's going to be eradicated in a way that really had never had a chance to before well yes and no i think that religion for a lot of people and it's really interesting because somebody was saying you know we put a lot of emphasis on being politically correct what we should be doing is putting emphasis on being emotionally correct what does that mean everybody wants to know and feel like Their feelings are valid.

[1725] Their feelings are valid regardless.

[1726] And the problem with an atheist and a religious person talk is this.

[1727] The religious person has...

[1728] Religion gives them a feeling.

[1729] And that feeling might be very comforting and very inspiring.

[1730] Just it gives them reason to move on.

[1731] They might have lost a child.

[1732] They were raised that way.

[1733] The church is a good memory.

[1734] Whatever it might be.

[1735] Got them off drugs.

[1736] Whatever.

[1737] And religion has done a lot of that.

[1738] Once I was in prison.

[1739] Yep.

[1740] God saved me. That's all you need.

[1741] times.

[1742] And in that sense, you know, I think when a lot of times when an atheist, you hear these debates, and the same thing goes with gun control, the minute that one side starts talking, what they're really saying is they're threatening the religious person with taking that feeling away from them, by invalidating how they feel, by saying whatever you feel is bullshit, when that's the wrong way to approach somebody, because what happens is they stop listening immediately because they're going to protect that feeling that's given them so much comfort and so much inspiration or whatever and now you're just you're just basically telling and selling here's the point of view it's all about science go fuck yourself and i talk to laurence kraus about this who's a famous physicist and atheist and i said laurence if i lose a child i'm not going to you i don't know where i'm going but but at the end of the day you may you may be very insulting toward organized religion it gives people a feeling and that feeling can be very helpful to a lot of of people.

[1743] And I'm not going to sit here and try to take that feeling away.

[1744] Gun control is a classic example.

[1745] When a lot of liberals start talking to people who own guns, what really the people who own guns are hearing is they're hearing first, I don't like you.

[1746] You're a dummy, you like your guns, and you're a primitive caveman.

[1747] And the minute you come at somebody that way, you are, you're fucked.

[1748] You're never going to change anybody's mind.

[1749] What they should be doing is saying, look, at the heart of for a lot of men the reason a lot of men have guns in their closet including me is because we want to feel like we can protect the people we love if there's a dangerous if a motherfucker's coming into my house that's as basic that's as caveman as it gets you never going to take that away from me I'm a rational guy I'm a fair -minded guy I'm not a murderous guy but I own guns for that reason well it's that old expression better to have it and not to need it than to need it Exactly.

[1750] And if a lot of gun control advocates would start there and understand that if you own guns, a lot of times the feelings around the reason you own that gun are valid.

[1751] Start there.

[1752] Validate my feelings and have respect for where I'm coming from and why I'm living this way.

[1753] Then we can have a discussion, not an argument.

[1754] Then you might be able to at least, if not change my mind, at least be sympathetic to the sense you are trying to make.

[1755] And on the other hand, the people that are gun advocates need to understand the way other people are perceiving their need to have these guns.

[1756] That's right.

[1757] They have this perception that a lot of people have of these cavemen who just want to halt progress.

[1758] It's like, you want to take my guns.

[1759] Come and get them.

[1760] It's always associated with a southern accent when they just did.

[1761] I was going to say that.

[1762] That's what it really is.

[1763] Yes.

[1764] There's this famous Charlie Daniels quote for the Charles.

[1765] William's band, it was on the end of this Aaron Lewis song.

[1766] And me and Duncan Trussell went on this rant forever about it.

[1767] You know, it was like, I love my God, I love my, love guns, I love my country.

[1768] And anybody wants to change that, you got to come through me. And we started, like, laughing about the fact, like, this thought process of someone who says something like that.

[1769] It's like, anybody wants to change that.

[1770] It's like this idea of changing things.

[1771] I love God.

[1772] I love guns.

[1773] You want to change.

[1774] You got to come through me. Right?

[1775] And we started, I love being a single -celled organism down here in the ocean floor.

[1776] Anybody wants to change that, you've got to come through me. And we went on this, like, long round.

[1777] I like being a carbon -based molecule.

[1778] Anybody wants to change that, you've got to come through me. Like, this idea of changing things being a bad thing.

[1779] Sure.

[1780] And that's one of the things that people associate with when it comes to gun advocates, like people that are into guns, that you're just into this, like, hickish sort of like, we're going to, we're all cats.

[1781] simple.

[1782] Yeah, they give you a southern accent and all of a sudden now you're simple.

[1783] Exactly.

[1784] Like Charlie Daniels type of thing.

[1785] It's prejudice.

[1786] It's a form of bigotry.

[1787] It's a form of bigotry, but it's also, you got to realize that the people that are gun control advocates have to be aware of this perception.

[1788] And you have to be aware of those aspects of one of the reasons why people do like guns.

[1789] There is, there is that aspect of it.

[1790] There's a part you can find people like that.

[1791] It is, it is an aspect of that culture.

[1792] And you've got to kind of denounce that.

[1793] as well as explain and express to the best of your ability why you think it's not a good idea to take all the guns away.

[1794] You know, despite all the different things you could throw against it like people in Europe who have less guns and less violence and people like, I read this thing like that cops in March in America killed more people than police in England have since 1900.

[1795] Wow.

[1796] It's fucking, you read shit like that, it's hard to argue for cops having guns.

[1797] But there's a lot of other variables, man. There's a lot of other shit going on there.

[1798] We have always been, you know, this country was founded by pioneers.

[1799] This country's mythology is wrapped around the idea that you solve your problems violently.

[1800] Think about every movie star hero we have.

[1801] You know, you know, now you make lots of money with a movie is you have a guy with a gun killing bad guys.

[1802] or some kind of a weapon.

[1803] Spendables.

[1804] Yeah, yeah.

[1805] I mean, you know.

[1806] Fast and furious.

[1807] It's ingrained in the American character.

[1808] Yeah.

[1809] I'm not saying that can't change.

[1810] I'm not saying it isn't changing.

[1811] It's also cathartic.

[1812] I think there's a lot of that keeps us from doing actual violence.

[1813] 100%.

[1814] They did a study on these horror shows like Saw and all these movies that might be playing a factor in the, lessening of sort of a horrific sadistic crimes because serial killers you get off on that are actually getting their can get their fix off of watching these shows but not for everybody no for some people it inspires them and you know and those are probably not the norm yeah but the problem is those get pointed at it's like people with guns that go in and shoot up schools the amount of people that have guns that don't shoot up schools my god what a difference yeah what a difference You know, the statistics are weird, man, because if you look at the statistics, it's like you would say, well, hey, man, if people have guns, you know, they could possibly go and do something horrific like the guy went to the Colorado movie theater and started shooting everybody.

[1815] Although I have to say that for me, what would have, and I thought that the NRA, the president of the NRA, I think that's what he was, the way he's phrased, it was probably not a good idea, he wasn't being very sensitive, but right after Adam Lanzah killed all those poor children.

[1816] He said the way you stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

[1817] And I have to say he could have been a little more sensitive, but, you know, if somebody in that movie theater had had a fucking gun or somebody in that school had a gun, it's true.

[1818] That's the way you stop that guy.

[1819] Otherwise, you are a sitting duck.

[1820] And I don't know the alternative.

[1821] If you want to get rid of all guns, good luck in this country.

[1822] I don't know how you physically do that.

[1823] There's not a black and white on this thing.

[1824] No. That's a problem that we have.

[1825] We're always looking for who's right and who's wrong.

[1826] This is a very complex issue.

[1827] It has to do with security.

[1828] It has to do with physical security, the security of your own body, taking care.

[1829] And it also has to do with privacy.

[1830] Like, it has to do with personal liberties.

[1831] Like, who can tell you that you can't do this?

[1832] Who can tell you, you can't, well, you tell me I can't kill someone with a little baseball bat?

[1833] No, it's just, you can do it more effectively with a gun so you can't have a gun.

[1834] The gun's only purpose is for this.

[1835] Yeah.

[1836] You know, we have these, you know, hard lines because, If there was only a couple of us, I mean, I always boil it down to this, and it's not the best analogy, but there's some validity to it.

[1837] If there was only 10 people on the planet, and one of us wanted to have a gun, and we all got along, and, you know, the other people were like, or one of us out of those 10 was like, hey, man, if you have a gun, I'm going to fucking lock you up in jail.

[1838] You shouldn't be allowed to have a gun.

[1839] Nobody should have a gun.

[1840] And then the other people are like, well, who the fuck are you to say that we can't have a gun?

[1841] you know like if there's only two people and one person wants to you know think of any civil liberty or or you know personal liberty one person wants to be able to drink the other person was hey man i want to be around you when you're drunk well then don't be around me when i'm drunk you can't tell me what to do with my body i can do whatever the fuck i want but then you get a bunch of people and they start passing laws and they start regulating okay if you have this substance we have the right to lock you in a cage if you have this item on you Is your knife over six inches long?

[1842] Is your gun over X -caliber?

[1843] You know, you're going to have to get special paperwork.

[1844] I'm going to make sure that you have a need for this item.

[1845] And that's...

[1846] People have a problem with those things, because one human being telling another human being what they can or can't is.

[1847] That was always...

[1848] Who governs...

[1849] Who is governing...

[1850] Who governs the governor?

[1851] Right.