#84 - Duncan Trussell

[0] And I successfully got Brody and Daniel Stewart to put their fingers in my really used fleshlight on the drunkass and smell it.

[1] Daniel Stewart being Jason Teab's girlfriend, you fuck?

[2] Yeah.

[3] You're a problem.

[4] He's possessed by his aides and it's controlling him to spread it around.

[5] It's like some sort of a parasite, right?

[6] Like that aquatic worm.

[7] No, or that mushroom that like falls on the ants and the ants go and wander into the pool and drown themselves?

[8] I don't know about this one.

[9] You haven't seen that?

[10] No, the parasitic fungus?

[11] Maybe we're talking about the same thing.

[12] No, I was talking about an aquatic worm that grows into a caterpillar's body or grasshopper's body gets to a certain size and then convinces the grasshopper to go swim.

[13] Grasshopper can swim.

[14] What is this fungus?

[15] This is different.

[16] But I love, like, what is that grasshopper thinking?

[17] He's not thinking anymore.

[18] What happens is the aquatic worm rewires his brain somehow or another, you know?

[19] It's the weirdest.

[20] Like, how did that work?

[21] work with evolution.

[22] There's a bunch of other ones out there, too.

[23] I know there's one that makes some bugs head glow.

[24] I forget what the bug it is, but it completely zombifies the bug, takes over.

[25] What's matter?

[26] You can just lift your mic up below.

[27] It's not facing you.

[28] I think that might be what the sound kind of distortion is.

[29] Really?

[30] Yeah.

[31] Oh, okay.

[32] Does that sound better?

[33] People at home say, yes.

[34] People at home on the treadmill, yes.

[35] Talk to a lot of fucking people in Australia that listened to the podcast.

[36] It was kind of a trip.

[37] You know, because last year when I was there, I didn't have the, podcast.

[38] I didn't do it.

[39] If I did do it, it was only like, we'd done like a couple of them and nobody knew about it.

[40] But now, you know, when we were in Rudy Hill, and I mentioned the podcast and all these people cheered, I was like, wow, like, how many of you fucking people?

[41] And then I thought, I started thinking about it, like, has there ever been a medium like that where you can just put something online and someone on the other side of the continent can be a weekly listener of this thing?

[42] That's fucking crazy.

[43] No, I don't think.

[44] It's amazing.

[45] Is there a lot of people?

[46] Yeah, it's packed.

[47] And then we did another show on Sunday night after the UFC.

[48] Sunday night, the UFC was over at 5 because the way it was set up so it could be live on pay -per -view in America on Saturday night, which is Sunday early afternoon in Australia.

[49] So 7 p .m. here is, you know, like 2?

[50] 2 there.

[51] 2 p .m. there.

[52] Oh, so it was live.

[53] It wasn't recorded and recr broadcast.

[54] It was live, but we shot it on Sunday.

[55] So then we were there Sunday night and we were like, well, hey, we're going to be out of here at 5 o 'clock.

[56] So the woman who runs a local club, her name's Jules, it's called The Laugh Garage.

[57] We said, hey, well, let's fucking, let's go do a set there.

[58] So we hooked it up and just on Twitter, packed the place.

[59] Really?

[60] Yeah, just threw out some Twitter messages.

[61] Said, hey, we're doing an impromptu ninja show.

[62] And then we went down there.

[63] All these cool motherfuckers came out.

[64] It was a really fun show.

[65] It was really fun.

[66] It's a small place.

[67] It only seats like 150 people.

[68] and it's real tight and intimate and just the perfect size comedy club you know what I mean he's got the perfect vibes got all the shitty head shots on the wall all the exact things that you want from a great club good bar great owners people that love comedy so we did that on Sunday night we had a show there was fucking fun as hell awesome isn't amazing that you could do that now you don't have to fucking go on radio stations put out advertisements and newspapers you just fucking put on your cell phone hey I'm going to be here at this time go here this is the first time I really did it like that, where I did a show from, you know, from a few hours to let's do a show in a few hours, ready, go.

[69] And it all did it wirelessly, wirelessly from cell phones.

[70] Yeah.

[71] You know, it's incredible.

[72] The connection that you have with people now is just off the charts, you know?

[73] Yeah, it's causing some insane shit to happen in the world right now.

[74] Yeah.

[75] The stuff in Libya and the Middle East is...

[76] And Charlie Sheen.

[77] It's, I blame it.

[78] Oh, Charlie Sheen.

[79] Apparently, Mrs. Rogan was ecstatic about the newest charles Charlie Sheen interview, because apparently he comes off crazy than a fucking loon.

[80] You haven't heard any of it.

[81] He did a new one, and he goes, hey, the only drug I'm on is Charlie Sheen.

[82] I need to hear that.

[83] I need to hear those actual words.

[84] Because on the way over to the airport, me and Ari were listening to the one who, when it was on the Alex Jones show, which, by the way, got him kicked off that show.

[85] They canceled production of his show for the rest of the season because of that one interview.

[86] I heard just recently he said he's not quitting or he's back.

[87] on it or something like that because I know there was a while they were going to have Amelia Estevez fill in but then I thought I just said on that heard or read on TMZ that now he's like no I'm not leaving the show or quitting the show.

[88] It wasn't his choice.

[89] It was them.

[90] I don't know where you're getting this from.

[91] They fired him.

[92] Why don't you look that up because what they were saying was that they were canceling production of the show for the season because of his erratic behavior and that he needs to seek help.

[93] He goes, I'm just tired of pretending that I'm not freaking winning at every corner, at every turn.

[94] Just delivering the freaking goods over and over again.

[95] And they asked him about piss tests.

[96] And he goes, yeah, I'll pass the first one.

[97] Second one's in your mouth, okay?

[98] It's called winning.

[99] I'm tired of pretending.

[100] I'm here with the goddesses.

[101] I'm tired of pretending that I'm not live in the perfect freaking life.

[102] And I'm out there delivering the goods at every turn.

[103] He's another, I love him.

[104] I love him too, man. And it's the, because you got two, coconut water.

[105] You got two archetypes going on Charlie Sheen.

[106] One of them is he's just doing what really powerful guys have been doing for thousands of years when they have a lot of money.

[107] They try to establish a harem.

[108] That's like a basic thing.

[109] That's been in society for a very long time.

[110] That's all he's doing.

[111] He's just living like the Western version of some Roman emperor.

[112] I miss right.

[113] He was saying that he was like going to sue and stuff like that.

[114] meaning like no he's not quitting you know this is not happening that's not miss red you didn't read it at all bitch well no that's what he was saying now that's what that's what he said though yeah they don't they don't back down that easy this is a gunfight right now between him and the executive producer i know how this works did you hear him the shit he talked about on the executive producer yeah talked a lot of shit and he was upset that the guy said something at the one of the closings of the show he said you know that i i eat right i do you know i exercise i get my colon check twice a year if charlie sheen outlives me i'm going to be really pissed.

[115] Right.

[116] I would think that's funny.

[117] I would take that as a joke if I was Charlie.

[118] I would be like, you know, I mean, he's going out, Hunter S. Thompson style, man. Yeah.

[119] He's in front of the whole world to see.

[120] Yep.

[121] I'm delivering the freaking goods at every turn, okay?

[122] It's called winning.

[123] He's got that long breath that he does with it.

[124] It's called winning.

[125] Yeah, he's...

[126] Delivering the freaking goods.

[127] This stuff on paper is a lot better than when you hear it live.

[128] Find the interview, find the most recent one because apparently it's just fucking gold and he looks crazy as shit and his eyeballs are bugging out while he's talking.

[129] He only drug him on is Charlie Sheen.

[130] He just did a piss test for radar online and it came up negative.

[131] Like he flew from the Bahamas and pissed in a cup in front of them, supposedly.

[132] I don't think cocaine stays in your system that long.

[133] That's not that impressive.

[134] No, they had a list.

[135] They said that it would have, well, I mean, I'm sure he's got, there's a trick or something, I'm sure, so that it doesn't show off.

[136] Maybe he's not.

[137] Maybe he's just crazy.

[138] Do you want to hear audio from this morning?

[139] He's on The Today Show?

[140] Yes.

[141] Delivering the freaking goods.

[142] I'm going to get a Charlie Sheen impression.

[143] I'm working on it.

[144] Sounds decent, right?

[145] No, that's really good.

[146] It's on its way.

[147] It's on his way.

[148] It's on his way.

[149] It sounds funny.

[150] I'm tired of pretending I'm not living the perfect freaking life.

[151] It's called winning.

[152] The only drug I'm on is Charlie Sheen.

[153] You got a little sniffle after a writer.

[154] I'm here with the guy.

[155] Goddesses.

[156] That was good.

[157] That was not good.

[158] I need to hear them, and then I'll do it.

[159] It's like, I need to hear people.

[160] There's only a few, I'm not a good impressionist.

[161] I'm only good for, like, Joey Diaz.

[162] You know what I'm saying?

[163] Yeah.

[164] Like, there's a few people cock sucker that I got nailed.

[165] I know where to go.

[166] I know how to fucking talk like him.

[167] Like Alex Jones, I can do Alex Jones.

[168] Charlie, okay, Charlie, basically, you're clean, and you've been clean now for two years.

[169] I'm tired of pretending I'm not delivering the freaking goods.

[170] Fucking hilarious, dude.

[171] I need to put it all together with some material.

[172] Hey, isn't Sheen a 9 -1 -1?

[173] Yes.

[174] Oh, yeah, a truther.

[175] He's gone as far as...

[176] Hold on one second.

[177] Real quick while we get over this.

[178] Because this is interesting.

[179] He's gone as...

[180] Interesting.

[181] He's gone as far as to write a fake question and answer with Obama, where it looked like an interview with Obama.

[182] When I first read it, I'm like, what the fuck is going on here?

[183] And then it gets to the end, and then he tells you that it's fiction, and wouldn't it be amazing?

[184] He actually had the opportunity to sit down with President Obama and talk to him about this.

[185] I'm thinking Charlie Sheen might be a government agent.

[186] This whole thing might just be his way of being a patriot and really discrediting the 911 truther movement.

[187] And what he's doing is he's just banging all these whores for America.

[188] That's what I'm thinking.

[189] And all the Coke and all the whores and all the erratic behavior is really just to make the 911 truther movement look ridiculous.

[190] This is what I think, man. I think that's high like 99 % probably Mostly likely Yeah totally I'm just tired to pretend I'm not living the perfect Frickin' life Just delivering the goods at every turn He's uh He's trim drunk He's faking the whole thing man He's an agent He's working for America With this 9 -11 Truther movement Can really fuck up the foundation Of this country It rode confidence in the base And so when Charlie Sheen goes out there On a deep end in Bahamas with a suitcase full of heroin with different color socks on.

[191] You know, I mean, Charlie Sheen is out there doing it.

[192] Like 30 years ago, the CIA was like, get me a baby Estevez.

[193] We're going to train him.

[194] We're going to get him huge.

[195] We're going to start him on super legit.

[196] All the Restone movies, Platoon, Wall Street.

[197] He's going to be a fucking huge, successful mainstream actor.

[198] Then, massive just horrors and drugs.

[199] And then a rebirth on television.

[200] And once we get him on television, And then we've hit the final phase.

[201] Okay, because when he's on television, then he's in the people's homes.

[202] And he's a little bit humbled because he's not a movie star anymore, right?

[203] I mean, now he's a television star.

[204] It's not quite the same.

[205] So he's not, you know, he's already lost a little bit of credibility.

[206] Maybe he's already sliding.

[207] You know, but then you hear he's making millions of dollars a week, and he's blowing and doing crazy things.

[208] Well, well, now Charlie Sheen's out of control.

[209] So then you've got to say, well, okay, why is Charlie Sheen into the 9 -11 truth movement?

[210] Why is he doing that?

[211] Because Charlie Sheen works for the government.

[212] It's a perfect plot.

[213] Do you really think they would pay them $2 million a week for that shit bag fucking show?

[214] That show is goddamn terrible.

[215] That show is a goddamn atrocity.

[216] Of course they don't pay them $2 million a week.

[217] This is just the mainstream news reports what the CIA tells them to report.

[218] Yep.

[219] Okay, I'm in there working for America at every freaking turn.

[220] I got to tell you, man, if you watch that show, I can believe it, because that has to be one of the most miserable shows I've ever seen.

[221] There is something about working.

[222] I said this about Grace Under Fire.

[223] Remember when Brett Butler had that TV show?

[224] Grace Underfire.

[225] Brian, what the fuck are you doing, son?

[226] You got your whole shit on AutoPlay.

[227] Anyway, when Brett Butler was on that show, Grace Under Fire, and she started going nutty, like throwing fucking glasses of water in people's faces and scream.

[228] I heard a lot of shit.

[229] Like, that was when I was on Hardball, the first sitcom that I was on.

[230] It was like, even before news radio when she was going nutty, just, like, screaming at people.

[231] Like, she, she, it was infamous.

[232] There's one thing where they, I believe they can't, the show.

[233] This is the infamous statement that she said in front of like a table read.

[234] If you fuck your wife the way you write comedy no wonder while you're divorced.

[235] She apparently said that like at a table read in front of network executives and all these people and threw something at him.

[236] That's one of the great getting shows canceled screaming rants.

[237] I've heard two good ones.

[238] Chris Titus is a good one and then this one but Chris Titus is a nice guy so I won't say his over there.

[239] You've got to have to ask him about that.

[240] But, man, you've got to look at, like, I think that if you look at how being an American celebrity carries with it this bizarre psychological danger, because a pretty large percentage of our celebrities go fucking insane.

[241] Well, when you're working on something bad, you're miserable.

[242] And when you're a good comic, like Brett Butler, as crazy as that bitch was, it was a good comic.

[243] She was a legit stand -up comic.

[244] And if you're doing some show that you know it's just not good, you know like she was a bill hicks fan you know she was in the bill hicks documentary about him talking about how great he was you know it's like she she's you know she was stuck she was stuck making a fuck load of money on something that's absolutely terrible and that's some soul stealing shit right like tim allen think about tim allen okay was a legit stand -up comic at one point in time and literally quit it all for that show did his show did his tool time show right whatever the fuck it was called brown we got you one right here what you look no i was going to treat this off Why are you going to do that?

[245] Who gives a shit?

[246] Folks, you hear that thing?

[247] It's called a refrigerator.

[248] Don't go crazy.

[249] Okay?

[250] The problem is, we did that before, and then we never plug it back in.

[251] Then all my food goes bad, and my pot soda gets warm.

[252] That's what I put in front of you, son.

[253] If you're feeling really fucking frisky.

[254] Where?

[255] I didn't know that.

[256] I thought this was ginger grass.

[257] No, no, no. I was ignoring that for you.

[258] Let's go deep juice.

[259] Do you hear the interview?

[260] Yes.

[261] Let's hear some Charlie Sheen.

[262] I don't blame Charlie Sheen.

[263] The show he's on sucks.

[264] There's a reason why he's doing drugs.

[265] Okay?

[266] That's what I have to say.

[267] I said this about Brett Butler back in 94.

[268] What's here?

[269] Call him Menstar took his guest to full any punches.

[270] Here we got.

[271] I'm tired of pretending like I'm not special.

[272] I'm tired of pretending like I'm not bitching a total frickin' rock star from Mars.

[273] And people can't figure me out.

[274] They can't process me. I don't expect them to.

[275] You can't process me with the normal brain.

[276] The troubled actor also said he was out to rates from 2 million to 3 million an episode.

[277] You want to race?

[278] Well, yeah, look what they put me through.

[279] When it comes to any apologies from Sheen, he says CBS execs shouldn't hold their breath.

[280] Do you owe CBS an apology?

[281] No. They owe me a big one, publicly, while licking my feet.

[282] But in his interview with Good Morning America, Charlie said he's clean, sort of.

[283] Yeah, I am on a drug.

[284] It's called Charlie Sheen.

[285] It's not available, because if you try it once, you will die, your face will melt off, and you try them will weep over your exploded body.

[286] Not so sure that's working for you, Charlie He's the most amazing guy ever Wait a minute Pause back that up to the beginning of the interview And let's go over this again, shall we?

[287] As Duncan Trussell's professional stand -up comedian And I break down The brilliance that is the man, Charlie Sheen Tired of pretending that I'm not special Let's hear that again He asked a morning TV starting with the Today show And he didn't pull any punches I'm tired of pretending like I'm not special Tired of pretending like I'm not bitching A total frickin' rock star from Mars Pause please pause Tarting I'm not special Did he say bitching Bichin a total rock star from Mars I need to listen to that a bunch of times And get it down Tartor pretending I'm not special Okay let's for a second though And by the way I kind of feel vile about getting The way everyone gets sucked into this shit Because like it's just gross When the Locust swarm Shut the fuck up Listen this is awesomeness 100 % pure, unadulterated There's no need to make excuses This is one of the greatest occurrences in modern pop culture You've got a fucking guy who makes two million dollars a year Or a week rather And he's imploding in front of everybody With coke and whores and braggadocious behavior Okay, so what Let's just say Even though he seems to think he's not on any drugs What drug is, is that cocaine?

[288] That's definitely cocaine Fuck, whatever he's on.

[289] He can just look at his face since he's on cocaine, man He looks starting to look like a skeleton He looks completely wired I'll give that.

[290] He looks like Lohan.

[291] Or meth or something?

[292] It could be meth.

[293] I think that's just coke.

[294] But I think meth like piles of Coke.

[295] Yeah, you think?

[296] Yeah.

[297] Well, if he paused, if he tested negative for Radar Online, I don't think you need more than three days clean.

[298] I think three days and you'll test negative, especially if you take cleansers and drink water.

[299] So that doesn't mean shit.

[300] You know, when did he test?

[301] Monday?

[302] Especially when you're Charlie Sheen, you just go, hey, I'm going to give you $4 million, make this test right?

[303] And I'm like, okay.

[304] No. But also, he could be manic depressive.

[305] Like he could be mad like that sounds like someone in a having either a drug -induced manic episode or just a manic episode because their brains fucked up from all the blow and it's starting to melt down.

[306] Well, what's amazing about it is there's two things.

[307] One, I wish he was a guy who was doing this that wasn't obviously insane.

[308] You know, it would be so cool if he was just really having fun, you know.

[309] But it's the way he's doing it that he doesn't realize how that's going to come off.

[310] I'm tired of pretending I'm not special I'm tired of pretending I'm not delivering the freaking goods I'm a rock star from Mars you know like whoa what are you talking about because you're good at pretending like what the fuck are you saying like you should be weirded out by the fact that you have any success anybody that's a performer that's not weirded out by the fact that how that fuck did I get to do this for a living you think you're special no one who does stand up or acting or music is truly special special.

[311] They're just people that may accomplish special things.

[312] And the reason why they're doing is because they're on a path and they get on it and then they get better and then they tune into it and they figure it out.

[313] And that might be special.

[314] Like achieving that level of proficiency with music or with comedy or with acting with anything.

[315] That is kind of special.

[316] But the person that's doing it is just because he kept going.

[317] You know, it's not, you're not special.

[318] The most talented person ever is not really a special person.

[319] The acts that they may achieve by whatever for whatever reason, whether it's because they're missing some sort of a social thing, you know, like some people don't get nervous around other people, and they can open themselves up because of whatever weirdness that happened to them in their childhood, or some people just have this unbelievably exorbitant need for attention that expresses itself in this really powerful, dramatic performance style, you know, that they can just really do something that really rocks you and moves you because they need you to love them that much.

[320] But at the end of the day, even the most amazing one ever, it's just a fucking person.

[321] And anybody like Charlie that really starts thinking they are special.

[322] I mean, I don't know how much of them is just bullshit or how much of it is just him being on fucking Xanax or whatever the hell he's on.

[323] But when you start thinking that you actually are special.

[324] Do you think he's just fucking around also?

[325] Could be.

[326] I mean, think about it.

[327] It doesn't look like you, though.

[328] You know, a lot of people don't care about the fucking media and what the news things.

[329] He's probably just sitting there getting high laughing about this whole thing probably.

[330] Don't you think?

[331] I don't think he's taking any of this shit seriously.

[332] I mean the drugs Charlie Sheen do you really think he's thinking that I think he's sick You're kidding me?

[333] You don't think there's something wrong with him I think he's a fucking around Yeah He seems a little No But these interviews are erratic bro These are not interviews by a man who is calculated And gone out there and decided You know I'm gonna act like a loon for a goof That's not what you got going on here Hey Charlie Sheen's not that good an actor Okay There's no way This is this is you got an issue now There's an issue with him Like back that up a little bit Let's listen to that.

[334] One more time.

[335] I'm tired of pretending like I'm not pitching a total freaking rock star from Mars.

[336] And people can't figure me out.

[337] They can't process me. I don't expect them to.

[338] You can't process me with the normal brain.

[339] The troubled actor also says...

[340] Keep it going.

[341] Keep it going.

[342] And he wants a raise from 2 million to 3 million an episode.

[343] You want to raise?

[344] Well, yeah.

[345] Look what they put me through.

[346] When it comes to any apologies from Sheen, he says CBS execs shouldn't hold their breath.

[347] Do you owe CBS an apology?

[348] No. They owe me a big one publicly While licking my feet But in his interview with Good Morning America Charlie said he's clean, sort of Yeah, I am on a drug It's called Charlie Sheen It's not available Because if you try it once, you will die Your face will melt off and you're Charlottom will weep Over your exploded body I hope I hope He's fucking around Dude He's not fucking around I think he's just having fun I'm Charlie Sheen I like hookers and porn I'm just going to make a mockery of this whole entire fucking bullshit.

[349] Well, there's a little bit of that, for sure.

[350] But there's also the words he's saying, those are the words of an insane man. But somebody needs to animate a guy smoking some Charlie Sheen and his body blowing up and his kids coming up and weeping over the corpse because that's hilarious.

[351] We love when someone's off the deep end like this.

[352] We love it.

[353] The society, we love it.

[354] Lohan.

[355] Yeah.

[356] This is way better than Lohan.

[357] This is Lohan if she had a brain and she could talk.

[358] Lohan's just slurring and stumbling around.

[359] She didn't do shit, dude.

[360] This is a thousand times better.

[361] This is an archetype.

[362] And this archetype shows up in religion.

[363] It shows up in culture.

[364] Not to take it too deep, but it's the idea of God coming to Earth and his followers eating him.

[365] Dionysus, Jesus.

[366] It happens again and again.

[367] This is a recurring thing.

[368] And that's what we do.

[369] We get people really famous.

[370] We turn them into like we worship them.

[371] We call them.

[372] idols and then we fucking kill him i got news for you bro nobody worships charlie sheen i bet they there's hilarious there are a few there's a few like no you get that confused two and a half ben star fans out there he's flooded every day with messages from weird mediocre people that's why he's tired pretending he's not special yeah that's what it gets to your it's like gone to his head especially when you're generating that much fucking money it's got to get to your he probably was sick of that show he's just sabotaging himself to get off that fucking show.

[373] I don't know about that, dude.

[374] This is going to carry, this is going to carry on much further than that.

[375] There's obviously some sort of a bad relationship between him and the guy who's the executive producer of the show, but that's really normal.

[376] I don't know.

[377] I can't remember it.

[378] Yeah, that's really normal, though.

[379] That shit happens all the time.

[380] I've seen it happen.

[381] There's always a battle of egos between the talent.

[382] No way.

[383] Really?

[384] I unplugged that fucking thing.

[385] I swear to God I did.

[386] Don't answer it.

[387] I have to.

[388] I'm in your house.

[389] I'm calling you from your house.

[390] Joe pretty much cock blocked us for the Charlie Sheen interview, though.

[391] You could still get him.

[392] So, Doug Good, how's your podcast doing?

[393] Doing good?

[394] Yeah, it's doing good.

[395] The Lavender Hour on iTunes.

[396] I don't listen to that mini podcast, but I listen to yours just because I fucking love anything you do, obviously.

[397] But you and Natasha work so well together.

[398] We just had my friend email on this.

[399] show and he told me one of the most horrifying stories I've ever heard in my life.

[400] What?

[401] He almost got raped while he was on acid.

[402] He tells this story on the podcast, but it's just the most...

[403] And this is the Lavender Hour?

[404] Which episode is it?

[405] This one, I haven't put it up yet.

[406] I'm going to put it up.

[407] It just happened.

[408] It was my friend.

[409] It was this musician in a band called Ome, which is an awesome fucking band, and the Holy Sons.

[410] But basically, he just tells the story about getting in the back of his friend's car while he's on acid.

[411] He kind of knew this guy.

[412] I didn't know him that well.

[413] and his friend's car, the sides of it, had been greased.

[414] Oh, yeah, yeah, you told me about this.

[415] So if you were struggling in the back.

[416] What?

[417] Yeah, yeah.

[418] And so he's just starting to trip.

[419] And in his mind, he's like, okay, I'm probably being paranoid.

[420] This guy didn't, like, intentionally greased this fucking car.

[421] And the guy pulls up into this house.

[422] And he's like, I just got to do a quick drug deal.

[423] And he goes into the house.

[424] And Emo goes into the house with him.

[425] I guess he didn't want to sit in the car.

[426] He's stuck in the house.

[427] the car he goes in the fucking house this guy takes him into a back room where there's a dude and full a full michael jackson costume and on the wall is a picture of janet jackson naked with candles around it like a shrine what yeah and his friend you sure this wasn't all part of the asht trip and he was really just sitting on the couch like watching two and a half men this happened and then like one of the guys started like dance next to him like but there's no music playing and he's doing like air dancing and then both the guys leave for a second and come back and they're like standing right next to him air dancing and then the guy pressed play on a CD player and started playing loser by Beck and looking on the wall there's all these fucking posters on the wall of dudes having three ways and he's like oh look three way three way three way my friends tripping out they fucking play loser by Beck and start dancing next to him because they're just trying to fuck him and he said he ran from the house screaming.

[428] He ran from the house screaming and he said the guy leaned out the window and yelled to him, don't tell anybody.

[429] That doesn't sound like he was almost raped.

[430] It sounds like he was almost fucked.

[431] Well, there's a difference there, right?

[432] Yeah, that's a good point.

[433] There's a distinction.

[434] He got mind raped.

[435] That shit never happens to me anymore.

[436] I'm, thank God.

[437] What?

[438] come close we didn't mean ever anymore just kidding just being that can you imagine just walking in that room and seeing somebody dressed up as Michael Jackson you got to be careful when you do acid man yeah you leave yourself at the mercy of the universe you know yes you do and if you're you're going to go do acid and then climbing someone's car that you don't know that good then go to his house yeah you're up you know or go to the UFC which or do anything do you do do anything where you're going to be out there and with a bunch of people I want to know what Charlie's doing right now I want to know he's doing no no I want I was doing drug wise And all these girls are saying cocaine.

[439] I believe it.

[440] I'm sure it's just a hundred percent.

[441] It's obviously an amphetamine.

[442] It's like maybe Adderall.

[443] Maybe he's taking Adderall.

[444] On top of it.

[445] Maybe he's on pharmaceutical speed.

[446] A lot of people on Adderall.

[447] It's the best.

[448] But people are on it.

[449] Fitzsimmons is on it every day.

[450] Oh, really?

[451] Takes it every day.

[452] Yeah.

[453] I learned out of code and action script on Adderall.

[454] Is that good, though?

[455] Action script?

[456] Sucks.

[457] No, Adderall is a great trick.

[458] It's like science.

[459] just like studied cocaine and they were like they came up with a a wonderful version of it's great i took half of one recently my first time i ever did it took half of one it was great took the second half i felt like i was like too much cocaine like you know you start doing the mouth thing and you have the drips and stuff it felt like all that it was horrible yeah it's it's a pretty intense drug and i know people are taking it i guess it gets prescribed for attention deficit disorder yeah yeah and it does it focuses you What's the name of that drugs that make you smarter?

[460] What's that called?

[461] Nootropics.

[462] Is that what that is?

[463] Newtropics.

[464] Newtropics.

[465] Yeah.

[466] I love that, man. I love the idea that they're going to come out with a pill that you're going to be able to take and get super smart.

[467] Well, what they are, they do have right now, they have supplements that aid the function of the brain, you know, that help you, supposedly help you retain memories and help get blood flow to the brain.

[468] I don't, you know, I mean, I don't know.

[469] Yeah, there's studies that have been done on certain substances that they've showed some sort of a cognitive.

[470] at a cognitive advantage in using them.

[471] Chris, Chris Marcus, the guy from the fleshlight, him and I are putting together like a little pack.

[472] We're going to try it out.

[473] And what we're doing is like putting together a pack of all the best shit, all the stuff that's supposed to be like really good for your brain and put it in a pack so that you don't have to go buy 20 fucking bottles of things and sort it all out yourself.

[474] Yeah.

[475] And so for the lazy, want to be smart people, you can just buy these.

[476] That's awesome.

[477] But what's he going to do if now no one wants to buy a flashlight because they're too smart?

[478] He quit the flashlight.

[479] Oh, he quit.

[480] Yeah, he left.

[481] And this is his family's business.

[482] It's his birthday today, by the way.

[483] Happy birthday, man. Oh, yeah, Monday.

[484] Happy birthday, bitch.

[485] Happy birthday, bitch.

[486] So, well, we're going to come up with some.

[487] So we'll find out.

[488] We're going to try them and test them out and see what the, you know, it's one of those weird things, though.

[489] It's like, how do you know, you know, like, I take vitamins?

[490] And the only way I know that vitamins help me is when I don't take them.

[491] If I don't take, I've done that before, I get a couple weeks off vitamins.

[492] I felt like flat and everything.

[493] I just didn't feel as vibrant.

[494] And then I started taking the vitamins again.

[495] And then within a week, I was like, whoa, I feel like good again.

[496] Like, this has got to be the vitamins.

[497] It must be.

[498] Definitely.

[499] It makes sense.

[500] I mean, you're supposed to be eating vegetables all fucking day.

[501] Yep.

[502] You know, you're not supposed to be eating cheeseburgers and soda and whatever the fuck you're eating.

[503] Red Bull.

[504] Yeah.

[505] I mean, the amount of vitamins that you're supposed to get is supposed to what you do get.

[506] And when you do give yourself what you need, like, man, it's just everything feels clean.

[507] Like, it's working smooth.

[508] Yeah.

[509] So, I don't know, we're going to try this out.

[510] And if it works, you know, if it becomes something that's, that's interesting, we'll start selling it.

[511] Is that something you have to get like, I mean, does he have to have like some kind of license to do this?

[512] Or is it like the supplement thing you could pretty much do whatever you want to do?

[513] Well, it's not a, the thing about it being like, you know, it's not like they're not regulated like the food and drug administration.

[514] It's not FDA regulated.

[515] You know, it's like that's one of the problems with supplements.

[516] They can say they do a lot of things that they don't really do.

[517] Right.

[518] You know, it's hard to tell.

[519] You know, it's hard to tell what the fuck is weird and what's fake.

[520] Yeah.

[521] And then at one point in time, they would.

[522] were going to call them nutraceuticals, and they were going to have them prescribed.

[523] It was a big push that the pharmaceutical companies did, I think it was in the 90s, to try to take over the vitamin business.

[524] When they saw that all these people were spending all this money on homeopathic, you know, cures and vitamins and stuff like that and health things, they said, well, hey, you know, we'll just fucking lock that shit down too.

[525] Like Monsanto was going to fucking, you know, put a patent on vitamin C. And the only way you get vitamin C is from Monsanto, you know?

[526] I mean, that's not outside the realm of possibility.

[527] corporate America.

[528] What they've done with food in this country, for folks that don't know, you've got to watch some of the documentaries that are available on Monsanto and see what they've done.

[529] They've basically done as they've genetically modified food so that it doesn't have the same effect.

[530] When you spray pesticides on it, it doesn't get killed by the same bugs.

[531] They have a bunch of different things that they've done to various plants.

[532] But once they have this genetically modified seed, you owe them money.

[533] Okay.

[534] This is how it works.

[535] you can't just grow plants and then take the seeds from those plants and grow new plants.

[536] You're not allowed to do that.

[537] It's illegal.

[538] You have to buy a new set of seeds from them, and you own those seeds just for that season.

[539] You buy them, you know, you buy them to use them.

[540] It's like you lease them.

[541] And then this is where you owe the money because their seeds go in the air, you know, cross -pollination, and they fucking fly off and land in some other guy's field and he starts growing Monsanto genetically modified food.

[542] And then they come in and they go, hey, you got our fucking corn growing bitch you owe us money and they just take your money it becomes like a crazy legal battle with these poor fucking farmers right you know and with you know they could say that some of them might have stole the seeds that's possible but with a lot of them it's been proven that it's just cross -pollination and so then it becomes a real trip because these people might be organic farmers too they don't want this mutant freak fucking genetically modified food growing out of their soil montanto is trying to they're trying to not just do that with food but they're trying to do that with animal food they're trying to do that with pit and like they're they're they're patenting pig parts right they're genetically modifying pigs and then they're going to patent those pig parts but the problem is like there's all this debate about them doing that because they're saying you're you're patenting things that have already existed for like a million years like that's absolutely ridiculous you can't do that you can't just patent fucking parts of animals and shit like you're gonna make it can you make an animal that you own like you own the patent to it and then like what if you want to commit genocide on the animal that you own.

[543] Are you allowed to just do that?

[544] Just shut them all off.

[545] You created it.

[546] It's yours.

[547] It's artificial.

[548] Supposedly.

[549] Monsanto sounds like the same company that made Robocop.

[550] Like they're going to unleash some terrible thing on the world.

[551] Yeah.

[552] It's a, it's a weird thing, man. They filed an invention.

[553] They filed a patent for the new invention, The Pig.

[554] This is an article on Greenpeace.

[555] It's fucking crazy, man. It's a very weird, man. Wait, they called their invention the pig?

[556] No, it's a joke.

[557] I mean, that's the joke title of this, you know, but their patent plans.

[558] They're out to own the world's food supply.

[559] They're out to own the world's food supply, man. They can, they can, you know, it's just amazing that it's gotten to this point where they've let anybody put any sort of a patent on life.

[560] And I understand that once you start to alter that life, then it becomes a request.

[561] You're like, well, you know, I mean, you're really, I mean, in a sense, you're sort of playing God.

[562] You're genetically modifying the structure of a plant to your liking.

[563] And then you own a patent on that piece of life.

[564] I mean, we're allowing people to patent life.

[565] And if it sounds ridiculous with a pig, well, guess what?

[566] It's just as ridiculous with a fucking head of lettuce.

[567] All right.

[568] It's all ridiculous.

[569] But a patent is, you know, the thing about it is the most disturbing thing is the idea of some corporation just for profit meddling around with the DNA of things that haven't been meddled.

[570] with for a very long time.

[571] That's bizarre.

[572] That's much more bizarre than the patent because the patent's just an imaginary thing anyway.

[573] Yeah.

[574] Well, what's really scary about it is the idea that they can stop other people from growing it.

[575] They can stop other people from having it.

[576] I'm too naive.

[577] I must be naive right now because this shit going on in Egypt and Libya makes me think that the corporate bullshit like that is just such a pipe dream.

[578] They will invoke things like that and they'll be a period of time where the belt gets too tight, but I just don't think it works.

[579] Yeah, I don't know what's going on in Egypt and what's going on in Libya and what's going on in Iran, but I don't think anything really happens without the CIA being involved.

[580] Yeah, I agree with that.

[581] I don't think these things just start happening.

[582] I think someone, some fucking dude who works for America is over there and he's helping organize shit and get people, and not to take anything away from the heroic effort that these people have done, you know, especially in Egypt, I mean, Mubarak is gone, you know, and in Libya right now, they're getting gunned down the street.

[583] There's videos.

[584] I've seen a bunch of them online of people getting hit by snipers.

[585] Yeah.

[586] It's fucking dark shit, man. They're just blowing dudes heads off in the middle of the streets.

[587] Yeah.

[588] Not to take anything away from that.

[589] I mean, these people really are doing something courageous, but for sure, there's some influence there, for sure.

[590] Our government's involved in everything.

[591] I think our government does not want what's happening in the Middle East to be happening.

[592] Really?

[593] If there are people out there, if there's some conspiracy?

[594] No, because you've got fucking right after everything went down in Egypt.

[595] They were showing pictures of Mubarak on mainstream presses, though you're kind of a good guy.

[596] I mean, it's so cool to watch mainstream news because it's like they have to spend a few days deciding what tone they're going to take with it.

[597] And when the Egyptian revolution started, the United States government didn't come out and do much at all, because they were waiting to see if they would be able to push them down, to hold them down.

[598] You know, and then they kind of came out in favor of the people, but they had to.

[599] But there's pictures of Obama meeting with him, many presidents meeting with him.

[600] He was, I think he was already ours.

[601] I don't think we wanted to get rid of him.

[602] I think we liked him right where he was at.

[603] But, you know, how do you know, though?

[604] It's all speculation.

[605] He might have, like, run his course because at one point in time, we wanted Hussein in there.

[606] You know, Hussein was our boy.

[607] Donald Rumsfeld shaking his hand as a famous photo.

[608] You know, he was our guy over there when they were at war with Iran.

[609] I mean, unless, I mean, our, our guy, listen to me. There's, there's no way to like, our team.

[610] I wouldn't be surprised if this is some, I mean, I'm, I'm such a fucking new age hippie sometimes, like, you know, with 2012 coming up and the acceleration of technology, what I like to think of this as is the beginning of people having the ability to organize themselves in a way that's never been possible in human history, mixing in with the ability to get information that you could never get.

[611] so that motivates people to revolt against liars and that's what the internet's doing just showing who the fucking liars are out there yeah I think you're right about that I definitely think that I definitely think that the social media and you know using Facebook and Twitter to get messages out to where we're going to protest and where we're going to meet and that they get I mean that's one of the first things they did in Egypt and one of the first things they did in Libya is cut off their supply of the internet they cut off their connection to the world but you know I mean how much I mean don't think that the CIA is in fucking super savvy about that kind of shit too you know i mean because of course they are i'm not saying that this isn't you know it's not possible that it's just a plain old -fashioned revolt i just think that the united states is so clever about you know the foreign policy and how they interfere with other countries that they're they don't ever allow anything to really slip by you know when this guy got arrested in pakistan for shooting down some people who tried to rob them and then turned out the guy was a cia operative that was embedded into the system over there you know when you find out stuff like that's like, wow, how many of these guys are there?

[612] You know, how many?

[613] You know, I have a buddy, and I've talked about it before.

[614] He doesn't like talking about it, but his dad was in the CIA.

[615] He didn't find out until he was fucking 30 years old.

[616] He didn't know.

[617] He thought his dad was a banker.

[618] Wow, that's cool, man. Yeah, it's a trip, you know.

[619] It's interesting.

[620] You know, it's very interesting.

[621] Well, I think that what happens is something like this goes down.

[622] They have, like, they had statistics.

[623] They probably had think tanks who were like, here's a, there's a possibility that this is going to happen in the Middle East.

[624] and when it happens, here's our plan.

[625] We know this guy out there, this guy out there, this guy out there, then let's move in to try to make the situation to our advantage.

[626] But I'm skeptical for no reason other than it just seems like this doesn't work with my understanding of the way Empire likes to run.

[627] It's my opinion that this is the people doing this more than it is a CIA instigated thing.

[628] and I think even if it was a CIA instigated thing it might have turned into something they didn't expect because really the one thing we don't want over there is for what's it called a hegemony we don't want the fucking it to become a theocracy right you know what I mean we don't want that right because that's another thing that I was concerned of I'm sorry but this Muslim Brotherhood thing that we keep hearing about lately you know yeah who are they what the fuck is this where is it how is this just coming up now how do they just appear in the comic book This is like an episode of Lost where there's the last season and, you know, they have to introduce some new character and this new magic guy.

[629] That's one of the reasons why I fucking gave up on Lost, the last season when they started bringing people back from the dead and Jack started walking through his lines.

[630] That fuck, I'll never watch anything with that guy.

[631] Yeah, until you see the end and figure out.

[632] Oh, it all makes sense.

[633] No, it doesn't because they don't get me. You don't get me. You ruined me, Jack.

[634] You fuck.

[635] I'm fucking goofball walking through all your scenes.

[636] He just was mad that he wasn't like a super.

[637] cool guy anymore like he was in the beginning of the show the beginning of the show jack was the bomb diggedy he had a great character he's an amazing guy he was out there doing he was a fucking hero yeah and somewhere along the line i bet that actor pissed people off by being a cunt yeah and they slowly started making him a cunt it is you know it became a junkie and a failure and a zero like his character like went into the shit or hard in a way that you never have expected from like the first season like what the hell did that guy do he's probably having an affair with one of the writers Broke up with her or something.

[638] I think they just, they get to know your real personality after a while.

[639] Yeah.

[640] And they just start incorporating your duchiness into the script, you know?

[641] Because I know they do that on shows all the time.

[642] They do that on shows all the time and people complain.

[643] Apparently, like that girl, what's her name, Catherine Hegel that's in like all those romantic movies that make you want to fucking hurl.

[644] Yeah.

[645] The movie with Josh Duhammel when they have a kid together.

[646] They're not really, the real parents, and they fell in love.

[647] Well, she was on that show.

[648] What the fuck is that stupid show with Dr. McDreamy?

[649] Whatever the fucking, what is it?

[650] You know, that's, Grey's Anatomy.

[651] And apparently they just fucking, they just started giving her, like, really shitty parts and not writing her in too much because she started getting an attitude.

[652] Right.

[653] You know, that happens.

[654] It's Charlie Sheen situation, man. Look what they've done with him.

[655] They cut off the last four seasons, the last four episodes of the season.

[656] They stopped filming.

[657] That's going to cost Charlie $8 million.

[658] Right.

[659] going to cost them a fuck load of money too because they've already sold the advertising for those they've already like you know committed to selling them for syndication as a syndicated show you know that's a that's a big loss for them they're hoping that charlie pulls it together and then by the time it goes around next year they can add for to next year and then you know and make up for what they owe so this is basically like for the corporations this is the same thing as when like a roman emperor had a favorite gladiator and the and the people love the gladiator but he got a big head and started going a little crazy.

[660] That's what this is.

[661] Their little puppet is kind of like misfiring a little bit.

[662] Well, you can't have a successful show without someone being a star.

[663] They become a star.

[664] Whether they were a star at first like Charlie was already or whether they become one like Brett Butler or, you know, Chris Titus or anybody else, when you get on a show, you know, that's what happens.

[665] You get a successful show and all of a sudden this one person.

[666] I mean, you really do fucking need that one person more than everyone else.

[667] I mean, that's a mind fuck.

[668] That's a mind fuck.

[669] especially for actors, because for a giant chunk of their life, not necessarily with Charlie Sheen, he was pretty much instantly successful.

[670] But for most actors, it's a long series of failures and disappointments and rejections.

[671] And then finally you make it with something.

[672] And you have a fucking chip on your shoulder for all those people that caused you pain.

[673] I can't tell you how many conversations I've had with famous dudes that will talk about, still to this day, about horrible fucking casting sessions that they had, horrible auditions where it went wrong and all the scuffling around and all the humiliating auditions that they had to go on.

[674] You know, it's like fucking, you know, people, they get in there and they, you know, they become famous and they just want to get back at all those people that hurt them all that time.

[675] It's like they needed all that exorbitant amount of attention.

[676] They needed to be fucking special and everyone was saying, no, you're not.

[677] No, you're not.

[678] No, you're not.

[679] No, you're normal.

[680] No, you're not good enough.

[681] No, fuck you.

[682] And then finally you become famous.

[683] You're like, yes, I am.

[684] Yeah.

[685] It's like this bounce back.

[686] The other direction is so enormous because of how much is pushing them down in the beginning, you know, how they feel.

[687] Well, it's, you know, man, when you run into an actor or a comedian or anybody who seems proud of themselves, it's just, it's automatically so disappointing because it's like, oh, you think you're the thing that's making this.

[688] You think you're, you really think you're responsible.

[689] And that's the most.

[690] It's like a radio thinking that it's all.

[691] awesome for playing a song.

[692] Or a volcano thinking it's awesome for the lava that comes spraying out of it.

[693] It's like, yeah, you're kind of like, you're a conduit.

[694] You're a conduit.

[695] You're not the fucking thing, man. That sounds ridiculous to people that don't create things, though.

[696] If you talk to a person who's not creative, doesn't write a lot or to perform a lot, they really don't have any idea what you're talking about.

[697] And most people out there are not, you know, they don't make the living a living being creative.

[698] A lot of people never achieve that Zen state where whatever you, you've gotten good at it whether it's art or music or you know even dance they say that and martial arts they say that it's anything that you get really good at you get into this sort of zone where it's no longer you it's like you've practiced it enough to the point where you can become subconscious and then once you do it it's like you're just tuning in you're tuning in to whatever the fuck it is out there that makes things awesome yeah and people don't understand that they don't do it it sounds like such an ethereal ridiculous notion but it's so widely accepted you know the concept of the muse you know it's so widely accepted that you're getting these ideas from somewhere else that's why i mean when you say you know i'm trying to pretend i'm not special i'm trying to pretend i'm not a freaking rock star from mars you know when he when he says shit like that like that is the exact opposite of the true creative mindset like you cannot tune into the greatness of the universe if you really believe that unless it's performance art and then it's fucking brilliant Right.

[699] If he's really doing his own Colin brother's movie.

[700] Sure.

[701] Well, yeah, then, yeah, I always, I don't know how many times I've watched an asshole on TV and in the back of my head thought, if this was performance art, this would be the greatest artist of all time.

[702] Yeah.

[703] You know, performance art turns everything into.

[704] Yeah, but don't you guys, aren't you guys more skeptical when you see people like Brody Stevens?

[705] Where the normal person will see Brody Stevens and go, well, that person is just fucking crazy and angry Matt.

[706] But then you talk to them backstage and you're like, oh, I get it.

[707] he is being almost like a character of himself.

[708] No, Brody's so obviously a character dude.

[709] It's so obviously he's on stage.

[710] Most people that see Brody think that that's him.

[711] Yeah, I think there's a big devil sheen, Brody Stevens and Charlie Sheen.

[712] There's a huge difference between how they're doing it.

[713] It's so obvious.

[714] Brody's telling jokes, man. And I mean Brody?

[715] Yeah, Brody's going I was over there in Iraq.

[716] Okay?

[717] I was there.

[718] I was in Desert Storm.

[719] Yeah, I was an Iraqi soldier, but that's neither here or there it's really obvious he's joking it's really obvious what's his name the redneck comic this night you know that's the whole character with the big guy that's on the tour with get her done yeah get her done guy that guy is a complete character but most people think that's exactly him i thought it was there but that's just a good character dude there's a difference between that and an angry person an angry crazy person he's not acting crazy he's just being a character yeah he's funny man brodie is like brodie's someone where if you no matter what's happening if you're around him, something funny is happening.

[720] Like, he has a constant gravity of absurd, hilarious things happening.

[721] Either things that he's making happen or just stuff that happens.

[722] Yeah, I don't just think of him as being this, you know, like, it's not like watching an asshole, you know, and saying, you know, is this guy faking it?

[723] It's like it's obvious he's faking it.

[724] It's fun.

[725] You know, it's fun to watch.

[726] When you watch something like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and you see fucking Kelsey Grammer's ex -wife, holy shit.

[727] what a reprehensible human being what a lizard person what a just a creepy manipulative nasty little dried up hooker holy shit she scares me yeah like almost like a demon like almost like some low level demon like in the upper upper echelons of hell just like some nasty deathworm and she goes on Howard Stern and starts talking shit about Kelsey Grammer you know Meanwhile, you were married to him for how long you have children with him and your children are going to hear you talking shit about him.

[728] You're going to go on the Stern show just so you can get some press for your fucking shitty Beverly Hills housewife thing.

[729] And you're going to sacrifice all these years of this relationship, the intimacy that you guys shared.

[730] You're just going to blurt that out.

[731] Like, you're a piece of shit.

[732] You're not a 20 -year -old girl that's making a mistake.

[733] You're some 40 -year -old hooker that's cashing in her chips, you know, and talking about how she wants more.

[734] You know, I want, I want all his money.

[735] I want this.

[736] He left me. He left me. Like, what did they have to deal with while he was with you?

[737] You fucking monster.

[738] That's a price you pay, man, for all those people.

[739] There was, um, I did Us magazine.

[740] You know, I used to do those, uh, me and Chris McGuire, we used to do these things where you look at the way people dressed and you write things about it.

[741] You know, you write like little quotes about it.

[742] I'll never forget this one guy.

[743] It was, uh, Kelsey Grammer, standing there with Camille when she was in her prime, you know, it's when she was a playboy playmate.

[744] She was way too hot for him.

[745] And the quote underneath it said, it's a story as old as time.

[746] That's all the guy said, like, whoever the writer was that said that.

[747] And I was like, bingo.

[748] He just nailed it.

[749] You don't even have to pretend.

[750] Here's this ugly, goofy looking fuck, you know, who just happens to be rich and famous.

[751] And he's with this vapid super haughty.

[752] You know, ba -bang, there it is.

[753] Tadda.

[754] And he's so happy with himself.

[755] And he will go and do these interviews and talk about how much he loves her and how amazing it is, and she completes him.

[756] And he leaves her for a flight attendant.

[757] I mean, it's fucking great stuff.

[758] If she was doing performance art, if she was faking it, you know, it would be absolutely brilliant.

[759] But she's not.

[760] There's no way she's that good an actress.

[761] She would have been fucking Oscar winner by now.

[762] She wouldn't be some 40 -year -old lady, you know, with a bunch of 20 -year -old boyfriends and she flaunts on the show.

[763] You know, before she was even divorced on the show, that's the thing.

[764] I can't believe I'm talking about the real housewives of Beverly Hills, but I get sucked in.

[765] But before she was even divorced with them, she was hanging out with all these young guys that were her friends.

[766] You know, and that drives me fucking bananas.

[767] I have friends that have girlfriends that have guy friends and they'll go and pal around with these guy friends.

[768] And I'm like, yo dude, you know, you need to fucking nip this shit right in the butt.

[769] Your girlfriend is hot and she's hanging around with a bunch of guys that she's been pals with since she moved here to Hollywood two years ago, whatever.

[770] She wants to they want to fuck her for sure.

[771] You know, she might want to be their friends.

[772] She might think there's somehow another to keep this platonic.

[773] But any of those weird, creepy situations where you got a girl with a bunch of guy friends they all want to fuck her yeah all of them have you ever had a girl that was hot that you were friends with you weren't somehow another trying to think how am i going to get to fuck her how am i going to get to to move this into us having sex my mother i never once thought that about her sorry it's a bad joke sorry don't just went straight red balance why not let's let's break this up real quick while we're here because i'm glad you're here because i wanted to talk to you about this there's a Cornell study that was just put online a lot of people are debating what exactly this means but what they're saying is that there's there's an error in the orbit of the moon there's an eccentricity in the orbit of the moon that they think will be would be what are you doing over there philip toothpicks there's an error error in the orbit of the moon that they believe is going to it's going to be they believe you can listen to me stubborn fucking shit brain from 12 hours in a fucking airplane I'm tired of pretending I'm not delivering the freaking goods at every turn what they're saying is there's something wrong with the orbit of the moon that can be attributed to a large extra solar system planet like they're thinking there's something out there that's much much bigger than Jupiter about four times the size of Jupiter and this is just one of several things that I've been following over the last couple of months where there's a bunch of different studies that are talking about this planet X thing.

[774] But apparently, they're really close to saying that there is something beyond Neptune, beyond, you know, Pluto's not real anymore, but something out there, like way out there, that's four times the size of Jupiter.

[775] Some enormous fucking planet.

[776] How would we not have seen that?

[777] How have we missed it?

[778] I don't know.

[779] It's a big question.

[780] They don't know.

[781] It might be just so fucking far out there.

[782] It might be really cold so we can't see it.

[783] You know, they're thinking that this thing is by calling it inside our solar system, I think what they're saying is that it's more, it's further away from Pluto than Pluto is from us, but yet it's still in some sort of an orbit.

[784] And it's huge and it's way out there.

[785] So this is like, this is the Planet X Naburu thing.

[786] Yes, yes.

[787] And what's the idea that it smashes into us every certain amount of time?

[788] Well, it depends on who you're asking.

[789] I mean, you know, if you talk to the people.

[790] people that believe that, you know, Earth was created this way.

[791] And, you know, that's actually detailed, according to Zechariah Sitchin in the Sumerian text, what they think is that, that somehow another, this extrasolar planet, or this planet is on an elliptical orbit, rather.

[792] And it takes 3 ,600 years to come into line with Earth.

[793] And it comes near us and fucks everything up.

[794] And then the Anunnaki jump off, and they leap off their boat onto our boat and go, hey, what's going on over here?

[795] And then they come check us out, then make us slaves for a little bit, make us mine for gold, and erase our memories and fly back in the space.

[796] I mean, I don't know what the fuck they exactly think.

[797] But, you know, when you look at, you know, the really interesting shit about what they figured out was that they already knew back then, in this, according to Zechariah Sitchin, that Earth had been hit by a large planet, and that's what created the moon.

[798] We didn't know that until, like, fairly recently.

[799] That's like one of the most recent theories.

[800] There's Earth 1 and Earth 2, and Earth 1 was hit by something, like the size of fucking Mars, some enormous planet.

[801] And it created also, it created the asteroid belt.

[802] That's another theory about that.

[803] You know, there's a giant, this is another thing I read, I need to find out if this is true or not, but that Bode's law is a law that you look at the gravity of one planet and you can extrapolate where the next planet will be based on, you know, how dense the planet is and what the gravity of it is, and what the mass of it is.

[804] And it works on every planet in our solar system except for Mars and Jupiter.

[805] And there should be a planet in between there and that's where the asteroid belt is so the idea is that you know something was there collided what's the reason why there's not a planet there did they have any no no no no i mean look there's a bunch of theories about why the asteroid belt exists you know and one of them being that it's like some of the early the fabric of the very solar system that it's just like you know from the forming of the solar system this is like you know some just left over shit that's there and then the other one is that it's you know a planet got fucking nailed and just destroyed and became this gigantic belt of rocks and shit.

[806] I believe that.

[807] That's fucking crazy.

[808] The idea that planets, we know this for a fact, that not only do planets slam into each other, but galaxy slam into each other.

[809] Right.

[810] They hit each other.

[811] Sure.

[812] Fucking A man. Could you imagine look up in the sky and every day this like star just keeps getting brighter, you know, and you're some asshole cave man. You have no idea what the fuck is really going on.

[813] And this thing is coming down and it's going to slam into the moon.

[814] You know, and kill everybody.

[815] There's also, there's a lot of theories about the solar system that are really odd.

[816] And some of them are that, some of the planets that exist now weren't there before, like Saturn, that Saturn is a fairly recent occurrence in the solar system.

[817] I mean, it sounds like totally, pretty horseshit.

[818] Star exploding or something.

[819] Well, you know, the idea on planets that, you know, like rogue planets, I guess they get sucked in front.

[820] They come from somewhere else and they get sucked into our solar system and get sucked into our gravity or any other.

[821] solar system's gravity.

[822] And it's an interesting thing about this Pluto, this planet that's outside of Pluto, is that they're saying the gravity of this thing, one of the reasons why they figured out that there's something huge out there, the gravity of this thing is hurling comets in our direction.

[823] Weird.

[824] It's fucking weird, man. You never know.

[825] The thing that freaks me out is the, what are they called pulsars?

[826] Or they say like a star close enough can have like a super pulse that just flashes Hypernova.

[827] Hypernova.

[828] And we're just dead instantly.

[829] Like you're just driving home and suddenly the sky turns purple.

[830] You drive home and you get a semi hits you.

[831] You're just dead.

[832] You know, same shit.

[833] It's kind of different.

[834] No, you both die.

[835] Both things.

[836] Getting killed by a semi and a semi hitting you in the face.

[837] and a supernova, it's a little different.

[838] Well, for you, if you're a selfish cunt doesn't think about the whole rest of the world.

[839] Yes.

[840] It's the same thing, Brian.

[841] And this is just like the whole, It's just like me taking pills The world will die right now I'm going to listen to some fucking Pixies music Yeah you might You might not know the difference or you might Did you see that new LCD screen That Microsoft announced the other day They showed what's in their labs right now What they're working on with the future of LCD screens on It's called a Steerable Auto Stereo 3D display And what's cool is it's like It's pretty much like a surface and you can see the surface so it's imagine like an iPad on a table but really big kind of like their Microsoft service I've seen the surface yeah so but now they you can grab things and it knows how the distance up and down is and you can do like 3D kind of like kind of just like the future when you see in the movies where they're like pulling up displays and tapping things and stuff like that and they have this really cool video the name of the video is called Applied Sciences Group Smart Interactive Displays Microsoft so great name Yeah, I'll tweet it.

[842] And what's so cool about it?

[843] It's just the future of, you know, like surfing the internet.

[844] Pretty soon you're just going to be like this.

[845] Like you're going to pull, take your hand, grab a browser, you know, just sit there and play with like air.

[846] Right.

[847] And you're going to be able to like just, you know, move things around.

[848] It's like it's kind of like connect for Microsoft.

[849] Services.

[850] Everything's going to become an interactive service.

[851] No matter what it is.

[852] You won't be able to sell shit unless it's got like some access to the internet.

[853] Right.

[854] Everything.

[855] Like this table.

[856] everything but what's cool is the depth of it and they also in the same video they were showing the future of 3D where like where it's flashing these lights at your face so fast that you can't even tell so it will give you 3D images without you know the glasses of course but it shows how they do it and he goes into it and explains it shows how it works and stuff it's a pretty interesting video I'll post it right now wow it should be shit this um this planet thing is really fucking freaking me out man well Well, yeah, I mean, a lot of the stuff, like, something that I think about all the time is, like, how much are we affected by the solar flares in, like, a sociological way?

[857] And it's such a crazy idea, but...

[858] Well, it's not if you consider that the moon's orbit affects people's behavior.

[859] Yeah.

[860] Is that, I mean, say there's no statistics to back up, you know, like that there's more activity during lunar, you know, lunar events.

[861] Right?

[862] Isn't that true?

[863] There's no statistics to back that up.

[864] Isn't that true?

[865] Because cops always swear by it Yeah, no, I think there are I've heard, I don't know, I never really investigated him But I always thought that was true But if they can figure out that there's a planet Deep, deep, deep somewhere in our galaxy That they don't know about just from the effect That it has on the moon's gravitational field Then that means it must be having an effect on us too Like if it's literally like some planet far away It's so powerful that it's altering the moon a little bit then it would be effect that same minor pull would be affecting us too maybe the storms you know maybe the weather that's what it certainly does i mean look at what what sun does just lack of vitamin d i mean we know it actually makes something in your body it actually causes a vitamin to be produced by your body that makes you happy you know the aids in your happiness and your health and when you don't get that all the time you know for a long periods of time people get sick and depressed yeah they have it's called seasonal effective disorder yeah i mean that that's seasonal with If you're in a place where, you know, that is a seasonal event, like in Boston.

[866] In Boston, during the winter, people do get depressed.

[867] And that's why it's called, you know.

[868] It's vitamin D deficiencies.

[869] It's a lot of it.

[870] But it's also just, it's fucking dreary.

[871] Yeah, that's why they have the sunlight lamps that are supposed to help.

[872] Do you know it snowed in Burbank?

[873] Did it?

[874] Like huge chunks of snow fell from the ground, two days ago.

[875] Hale, hail or snow?

[876] Well, it wasn't hail because hail is usually hard, but it seemed like really, like, wet snow.

[877] Wow.

[878] But it covered the whole.

[879] roads and stuff like that.

[880] Were you driving?

[881] No, it was really early in the morning.

[882] And then it melted super quick, but I mean, it snowed all day.

[883] It was ridiculous.

[884] Wow.

[885] Well, this, and a couple of websites here I'm looking at when it comes to the moon.

[886] And one of them saying that the claims of a correlation between lunar phases to human behavior does not hold up under scientific scrutiny.

[887] And they're saying, so they're saying that there's no connection.

[888] But then other people are saying that there is a connection.

[889] It's interesting.

[890] Other people think that, you know, it's just, it's really difficult to quantify, you know?

[891] How do you know, like, if it really is a cycle, how do you know, I mean, whether or not it's actually caught?

[892] I mean, yes, you should be able to see just by, like, hospital reports and prison and, you know, police records.

[893] Shouldn't you be able to see?

[894] I would imagine so.

[895] I mean, if it's a little bit of a difference, like a 1 % difference.

[896] Maybe that's like, yeah, but maybe that's like that, it's just small enough that it's the rate of inaccuracy, you know what I mean?

[897] this test is only 99 % accurate.

[898] So it's kind of like the, you know, the up -down ratio.

[899] Yeah, this is this one side is saying, despite the fact that no evidence of a significant correlation between phases of the moon, the menstrual cycle, and fertility exists.

[900] Some people not only maintain that there is, but have a scientific explanation for the non -existent correlation.

[901] It could be that just people want to believe it.

[902] Or it could be just like people would go nutty because back in the day, it was like bright outside at night, whereas before you had to watch where the fuck you walked and It was super dark out, you know, like a couple of times a year, or a couple times a month, rather, you know, for a few days, you get a giant spotlight in the sky so you could walk around at night.

[903] You know, I mean, and probably people did nutty or shit back then.

[904] But if the moon affects the tides is powerful enough to make tides come in and tides go out, it's, it can, I could totally see how it would affect whatever weird oceans in your brain, whatever quantum oceans floating around up there.

[905] I'm sure it affects that.

[906] Yeah, there's that question, right?

[907] It's like how much of you is the chemical reactions that's going in your body and how much of that can you manipulate?

[908] How much of that can you manipulate with, you know, exercise to maintain your hormone levels and for drinking water to maintain your hydration?

[909] So you're not, I mean, how much of you is a bunch of these chemical reactions?

[910] I mean, what your personality, how much of that is dictated by what you're taking into your body?

[911] Right.

[912] It's got to be a percentage.

[913] That's a much bigger percentage than the fucking moon.

[914] Well, one thing's for certain.

[915] If you are in pain, you're going to probably be an asshole to the people around you in some way.

[916] If you're fucking hurting, like when, you know, the old classic, when you walk into the dishwasher with your shit and somebody's nearby and says anything to you, like, are you okay?

[917] I'm fucking fine.

[918] I'm fine.

[919] Fuck!

[920] Because it hurts so bad.

[921] Right.

[922] You know what I mean?

[923] It's like, so if you're in pain, if you feel like shit, in whatever way you feel like shit, for whatever reason, you're probably treating the people.

[924] people around you like shit you know the opposite of it take ecstasy and sit next to the stupidest person on the planet you feel so good you're like i love you you really are amazing man you really are your ideas are yeah they're good okay but that's not good right well is it is it or is it i mean is it good to be in wonder of everyone even retards you know or is it yes you think i think it i think it's whenever you get around that kind of energy coming from someone where for whatever reason when you run into someone really smart you get the sense that they've managed to turn the judgment thing off in their computer and they just like you just because you're having this bizarre experience on the planet with them and they kind of get it that's one of the most healing things I used to at one point in my life when when someone would be judging me and I would know they would be judging me I would feel insecure I would get upset I would get like wow you know like man maybe I'm a loser maybe you know but if I felt like I was being you know unfairly scrutinized I would just think it was I'm just obviously I'm a loser I'm losing it this whatever this is right now and this person doesn't like me now I have a completely different effect now when someone when I feel like someone's judging me or someone's being hypercritical or shitty to me I'm like why are you being a cunt right because I'm nice you know I try to be nice to everybody like there's no reason why this has to be a dushy conversation it's if it's duchy you're the one to start in the duchiness yeah you know And I think for a lot of people, man, that's, like, one of the biggest things that they worry about in life is getting judged and criticized and shit on.

[925] It's terrible.

[926] Especially if you're a kid and you're around someone with a powerful personality who's like decided that you're a loser.

[927] It just draws that out of you.

[928] It's like we're talking about the gravity of the planet.

[929] It's like if someone's judging you, there's a gravity that they're exerting on you that can lead you into being the thing that they think you are.

[930] It's like what's that bizarre idea where it's the observer's effect when you're looking at an atom or an electron or a photon, I think it is, that weird thing where at the quantum level things seem to go in the direction of the way you expect them to they seem to be where you're looking it's affected by you viewing that that i don't know the name for that i probably just butcher it what i'm saying is i think that that can happen when you're around someone who has a firm belief that you suck you can suddenly it'll start drawing out of you the shitty behavior because it's like you will start blossoming out of you and it fucking sucks.

[931] In the same way, if you're around somebody who really sees you and sees how cool you are, then all of a sudden you're funnier.

[932] You know what I mean?

[933] Because they're drawing the positive out of you.

[934] Well, when you first start dating a girl and she really likes you and she's really neat, how funny are you?

[935] The funniest.

[936] The funniest.

[937] You're hilarious.

[938] Every time you go to the movie, you have the wittiest shit to say.

[939] You go out to dinner.

[940] You have the funniest thing to say.

[941] I mean, this is where so many guys I know that started out doing stand -up comedy.

[942] The reason why they got funny was to make girls laugh.

[943] They started out like trying to be the most charming and fun guy in the beginning of the relationship when you first meet each other.

[944] You know, and that's, that's a, you know, I think I'm way funny when I'm broken now.

[945] I'm miserable, you know, because I'm just fucking, like, I don't know when I'm happy.

[946] I'm just not, I'm being nice and funny to that person.

[947] But, like, when I'm miserable, I fucking think of evil, deep, dark, crazy shit.

[948] It seems like to me. But when you're around someone, like, but imagine when you're around someone who you know thinks that you are a fucking asshole, like who you know.

[949] thinks that you're a moron and you're around them I think Brian's just talking about performing on stage you're kind of going off in a different direction but I know what you're saying You know what I'm saying You need like I mean that was Kinnison's whole thing I mean Kinnison became really funny because of pain Right You know because of me I was married For two fucking years Look at his face You know Does this like a man that's happy All that shit was his You know That wasn't him happy That wasn't you know Beautiful life And everyone Well see here's the thing man This idea of happiness We were just talking about it on my podcast and someone's like, why are you obsessed with being happy?

[950] Being happy is not what life's about.

[951] It's not about, you know, oh, I feel good today.

[952] Who said that?

[953] It was, they made a really good point because happiness and sadness are two sides of the same thing that if you pay too much attention to them, you'll, you'll begin to get caught up in like chaos and randomness.

[954] It's a, in the Bhagavagita, there's this great verse that says, a wise man is not distressed or is not disturbed by either happiness or sadness.

[955] Your mind does not shift according to your mood states.

[956] You're not plugging into the chemicals, the chemicals that are making you feel stressed out or making you feel happy.

[957] You're above it.

[958] You're transcendent.

[959] You've transcended it.

[960] And that's what I think happiness would be, as opposed to the other kind of happiness, which you were saying, isn't that bad, which is the ecstasy happiness or the kind of like happiness that comes when Charlie Sheen does a line of blow or the kind of that kind of happiness induces the most allegedly allegedly I don't think he's really on cocaine at all I don't think he's on any drugs except Charlie Sheen which is apparently the name of some new kind of meth it's probably just a new meth that they invented we'll call the Sheen but I I think that so that's my idea of happiness is not to get caught up in the mood states whether you're because you're going to feel like shit on this planet you have to feel like you will feel like shit you know why because everyone you know is going to die and if they don't it's because you died before them and when someone dies it sucks and you're right but that's just when someone dies you know i think a lot of people think that your everyday life has to be filled with shit and that you have to that's part of being a human and that happiness is you're saying that happiness is somehow another transcending above emotions I don't think it is.

[961] I think my personal happiness has been fun.

[962] It's been laughter, having a good time, hanging out with friends, laughing with friends, laughing, doing shows, laughing on stage.

[963] That's real happiness.

[964] So is happiness possible?

[965] Yeah.

[966] But you've got to be around a bunch of other people that also commit to the same ideas.

[967] You have to be around a bunch of other really fun, happy people.

[968] It's very difficult to go it on your own.

[969] The only way you can is if somehow or another you attract people as you're going on your own, you're committed to a life of happiness that also like kind of like catch into your vibe and then pick up what you're doing and do the same thing and then you you gravitate more people but you can do it and I don't think it has to be that you have to be above happiness and it's like my my concept of guerrilla budism I told you this before like people always say that you know uh to be truly happy you cannot be attached to objects and you know yeah you should be you should transcend objects and material possessions I say horseshit I say material possessions are fucking awesome Some cars are badass.

[970] It's cool to drive.

[971] TVs are awesome to own.

[972] Stereos are great to listen to.

[973] You know, it's cool to eat a good meal.

[974] It's nice to live in a house that's cool to look at.

[975] These are all good things.

[976] The problem is for most people, you become so attached to them because they're so difficult to attain.

[977] So the true way of enlightenment isn't to just be without any possessions.

[978] The true way is to get to a point where you don't worry about the possessions, but you appreciate them when they're there.

[979] It's not that you become completely attached to them.

[980] But the only way to really do that, I think, is to make enough money so that it's not that big a deal if someone steals your car you can just get another car the thing you the thing people like about possessions is not the possession the thing people like is the way the possession makes them feel the feeling state that is induced from the thing right you know like so example so people like people people begin to associate the the person in their life the whatever they're dating or married to or whatever is the thing that's invoking that love.

[981] They're attached to the aspect of the material universe that's creating the feeling.

[982] And I think that there's a place, and maybe it's legendary, and I shouldn't even believe in it.

[983] But a lot of the saints and a lot of gurus and a lot of people who seem very advanced seem to point to a place that is not dependent on being triggered by things in the material universe.

[984] In other words, the feeling that you get from amazing stuff is a pre -existing feeling inside of you.

[985] You already have that inside of you and you're letting stuff be the excuse to feel that way.

[986] Whereas the idea is you can pop into a state where you're always experiencing that type of excitement and pleasure that you've limited to if I get a great job, if I get a nice house, if I book someone, other thing again or if I get a brand new car, if I get the new Mac, I'll feel, I'm going to feel great.

[987] It's like that old Buddha quote, enlightenment is possible in this lifetime.

[988] Yes, that's exactly right.

[989] Can't it be both?

[990] Can't you have a badass car and still try to be enlightened?

[991] Is that possible?

[992] Well, that's the thing meant that's, I think there's something, there's something negative about issuing those things about avoiding.

[993] I do too.

[994] I think it's retarded because then you get fucking people who are lying to themselves and pretending to be a certain way.

[995] How many people drive a Prius just for the social credit.

[996] I'm an environmentalist.

[997] I'm an environmentalist.

[998] I think a lot of people buy just from the mileage.

[999] I'm down.

[1000] Seriously.

[1001] Yeah, sure.

[1002] I mean, it's four dollars today.

[1003] But guess what?

[1004] Brad Pitt doesn't.

[1005] Okay.

[1006] No, people, here's the thing.

[1007] People, people want to put off, um, they want to put off meditating or experimenting, uh, with different forms of spirituality until they're good, until they feel like they're perfect.

[1008] They want to approach.

[1009] They're like, you know, I'm going to be happy soon.

[1010] but let me get rid of this other shit first.

[1011] I got to take care of this stuff.

[1012] That's not it.

[1013] The idea is you approach understanding yourself and the universe and your connection to the universe, not from a place where you think you're going to be, but from where you are right now is some filthy, filthy thing.

[1014] No matter what, if you haven't really meditated a lot, the chances are, you're absorbed in some, if you're on earth, you're absorbed in some really stupid, crazy shit.

[1015] And if you wait until you're better balanced to start meditating, you're never going to meditate.

[1016] You're never going to get into, just from exactly where you're at as a fucking sex crazed beast or an alcoholic or with seven heroin needles falling out of your arm.

[1017] Approach it from that place.

[1018] And that's where you start getting really cool results, man. When you come at it from where you're at.

[1019] Well, it's like everything else.

[1020] You just have to do it.

[1021] It's like, well, I'm going to start exercising soon.

[1022] I'm going to quit smoking soon.

[1023] I'm going to do this soon.

[1024] Just start doing it.

[1025] It's the same thing as everything else.

[1026] So you have to somehow another trigger that action in your brain to force your body to move in the direction or whatever the fuck it is you need to do.

[1027] Right.

[1028] You know?

[1029] Hopefully we can hack our brains in the future where we know exactly what to do, to motivate that.

[1030] Like a remote control.

[1031] I don't want to be the first, though, because this is a bunch of dudes are going to turn gay because they try to get smarter.

[1032] For sure, that's going to happen, man. They're going to fucking stab the wrong part of your cortex and you're just, a yummy cock.

[1033] Why does cock seem so yummy?

[1034] could you imagine coming to you come too from your operation and you're like oh you just want to get oh you look at the doctor god damn he's hot yummy yummy yummy yummy cock you kids stop saying what if like you could live forever but for whatever reason like every couple minutes you just start going yummy cock you can't even help it you're on a date you know having some eat well you know I've been really I've gone to a few plays lately yummy cock yeah you know the interviews you know one of the great things about being immortal is just the yummy cock He's immortal But it's mess Well I don't know man I think It's easily possible That they could fuck up The first couple times I try to rewire the brain And just create psychopaths I love the idea of going to the gym And putting my brain In the same place where the kids play While my body goes and works out That would be the fucking best Do you think that if there was a place Where you could go Where you could go And just lie down in a machine and the body would be like forced to do all this work without you ever having to like exert effort mentally you would you'd be down with that yeah yeah for sure you would miss out the whole thing the whole thing is developing the the character to push through the hard workout which elevates your human potential sure or get really good at Starcraft while your body's working yeah let your body do the hard part That's how you develop character, though.

[1035] I mean, that's a big way.

[1036] There's something that's definitely to be learned from separating your body and your mind and forcing your body to work for your mind.

[1037] Yes.

[1038] Where your body's struggling, your body wants to quit and you go, shut up, bitch, keep going.

[1039] And then when it's over, you're like, wow, I did it.

[1040] I got through it.

[1041] This is a tough struggle.

[1042] Because when you're doing like, you ever do body weight squats?

[1043] You know what they are, Hindu squats?

[1044] Yeah, I think I tried squats once.

[1045] Well, it's very easy to do one, you know?

[1046] Anybody can go down on your, you know, put your ass to the back of your ankles and then stand back up again.

[1047] It's not hard.

[1048] Very few people can do 500.

[1049] And it's one of those things.

[1050] When you start doing it, you get into it, you'll do like 25 and then you're like, holy shit, 26, 27.

[1051] And the lactic burn, you know, the muscle burn in your legs starts getting pretty intense.

[1052] But it's not a difficult thing to do.

[1053] It's not difficult to just stand up.

[1054] So in your mind, it's very hard to accept that you should, when should you just stop?

[1055] should I stop now I can't do another one you can't stand up you really can't stand up one more time just with your own body weight so you have to like figure out how to order your brain to work for you and push through it and sometimes for like a couple of minutes you'll be in agony taking big deep breast and then push out another one and go down and big deep breaths when do you want to quit well you want to quit at like 25 or 26 when it starts getting a little bit difficult yeah your brain starts going all right let's stop let's stop let's stop your body's you when I'm sending you these signals, this shit is not fun, let's cut it off.

[1056] And then you have to figure out a way to manage that and balance that.

[1057] And once you do, once you do have the ability to push yourself through brutal workouts, push yourself through like jujitsu class and kickboxing class and stuff like that, when you develop a character, you develop something, you developed a control over your body that the average person doesn't have.

[1058] Yeah.

[1059] Like those fucking guys who can do those divers, free divers, that I respect this shit out of that.

[1060] I think it's a crazy thing, but some of those guys who can go underwater for like seven minutes.

[1061] Oh, that's crazy, man. That's one of my favorite things to watch.

[1062] Yeah, me too.

[1063] What the fuck?

[1064] How do you do that?

[1065] Power over your body, using your mind and your willpower to control your body.

[1066] I mean, it takes a long time for them to get up to that amount of your breath.

[1067] But God, man, perfect example.

[1068] Like every second you want to quit, every goddamn second, your body is sending signals like, enough, enough, let's get some air.

[1069] When I was in Hawaii, stoned out of my mind from dreams, making pot tincture.

[1070] We went snorkeling and there was our group snorkeling and then I realized there was a guy with a snorkel who wasn't in our group and there's no boat anywhere to be seen and like land is far the fuck away.

[1071] And this guy's swimming around and like we're all snorkeling.

[1072] He goes under and I'm watching him go way, way, way, way down and he's staying down there and he knows we're watching him.

[1073] And he's staying down there for an impossibly long time and I'm like it went from me being like wow that guy's great to like my heart started beating because I was like oh fuck I think this guy's drowning like I think this guy's going to die he turns over on his back right and his arms go out loose and limp and his body starts floating up to the surface and then he just smiles and waves at it as he was faking drowning because he could just hold his breath so fucking long and I guess like one of the things he liked to do in Hawaii was to snorkel out to the groups and make him think that he had drowned Holy shit.

[1074] So he practices his free diving by freaking people out?

[1075] Yeah, because I really thought he was under so impossibly long.

[1076] It was crazy.

[1077] Whoa.

[1078] Holy shit.

[1079] Yeah, man. I would love to be able to do that.

[1080] That would be so amazing.

[1081] That's pretty awesome, man. You must have the most healthy lungs to be able to do that.

[1082] That guy's probably never even had secondhand smoke.

[1083] I don't know.

[1084] I think it's something you build up to.

[1085] I think it's something just like everything else.

[1086] You know, like the only way you can do 500 bodyweight squats is you've got to start off with 25 and work your way up to 500.

[1087] I think they just developed the ability to hold their breath.

[1088] I know Egan Inouye, who is an MMA fighter, him and his brother Ensign, they're pretty famous pioneers.

[1089] And his brother Egan is famous for being a free diver.

[1090] I think he won like some sort of crazy title.

[1091] You know, like, I think at one point in time he'd like held his breath the longest, longer than anybody else.

[1092] I'm pretty sure like Navy SEALs and shit train you to do that.

[1093] That's part of boot camp probably, I would imagine, you know.

[1094] Dude, I told you about my friend Eric, Eric Crisp, the guy who went to, he makes pool cues, makes his badass pool cues.

[1095] He's in the military, and he had tried out for the SEALs.

[1096] And one of the things they make you do, I believe it was the SEALs.

[1097] It might have been one of the special forces.

[1098] What are the other groups like that?

[1099] They make you drown.

[1100] Like, you literally go underwater until bubbles come up and then your team has to rescue you.

[1101] So you have to trust in them to bring you back to life.

[1102] Fuck.

[1103] Like, you go unconscious, you drown.

[1104] They pull you out before your body's totally dead.

[1105] They pump the water out of you.

[1106] They give you CPR, and then they bring you back to life.

[1107] And that's when he was like, I tap.

[1108] I'm done.

[1109] That's enough.

[1110] Yeah, he's like, I can stay up for days and go running through the woods, but I'm not going to let you drown me. Have you seen that video on the internet?

[1111] There's an video on the internet of an artist doing that, drowning himself in his bathtub.

[1112] Have you seen that?

[1113] Yeah.

[1114] And then someone brings him back to life?

[1115] Yeah, he puts a fucking concrete block on his chest and his bathtub drowns.

[1116] Because basically, when you suck in water, there's a reaction I think your body has where it automatically knocks you unconscious.

[1117] So, yeah, he knew he would go out and his friend had to resuscitate him.

[1118] Oh, my God.

[1119] Did you find it?

[1120] No. I think look at performance artist drowned self and bathtub, I guess.

[1121] Like I'm telling you out of Google, we're both internet junkies.

[1122] Go to the Google website and type.

[1123] I prefer Bing.

[1124] Me too.

[1125] Droned alive.

[1126] performance art performance stunt talentless self -indulgence taking the stage yeah this is yeah he piss people off yeah a lot of people are upset at them talentless yeah well maybe but no one's saying that it's a talent thing yeah it's a crazy I'm really good at drowning myself I was born with this bizarre talent where I can drown myself with anything this fucking wonky website doesn't work yeah I don't it was like on a weird site where I saw I can't remember I think that was when I still used to go Noxic Junction.

[1127] Crazy Idiot drowns himself for art. That's funny.

[1128] The first one was like a critique of it.

[1129] And this one is a crazy idiot.

[1130] Yeah, those sites are fucking wonky.

[1131] This one ain't working either.

[1132] Yeah, it's because we're streaming video right now probably.

[1133] Really?

[1134] No, come on, man. We've got cable here.

[1135] That's not what this is.

[1136] It's not, the sites are coming up instantly.

[1137] It's not what it is.

[1138] It's like the Internet just sucks.

[1139] My website sucks lately.

[1140] Yeah, but it doesn't matter what your downloads.

[1141] speed, it's the, your upload speeds, probably bottle -knocked -knocked at something like one.

[1142] Brian, I got a question for you.

[1143] This is a, I've got a, I've got a, uh, technological question.

[1144] Why does Korea have faster internet than us?

[1145] They, most countries have, most countries have faster internet than us.

[1146] Why?

[1147] We're just behind, you know, we're, they're way ahead of us.

[1148] Because we're out there kicking ass and making freedom, Brian.

[1149] That's right.

[1150] Some shit that gets left behind.

[1151] Same reason why there's cell phones, you know, or they're video games, everything.

[1152] Here it is.

[1153] Here's homeboy.

[1154] If you just look up.

[1155] drowning performance art go look at it up on YouTube I'm going to watch it real quick and see if it's worth How can you not?

[1156] Oh he talks about it Okay Go to it Brian Because this guy is actually going to explain What the fuck he's going to do before I wonder how many views it has on YouTube How many, let's guess I say 35 ,000 I want to know what advertisements Comes up before How many do you say I say 35 ,000 How many?

[1157] I got to put that in 100 ,000 100 ,000 let's say 27 ,000 shit really you you overestimate the Justin Bieber fans of the world you know but then again you know look Justin Bieber is at least singing a fucking song but no you put Justin Bieber is the soundtrack to a guy drowning himself in the bathtub it'll quadruple the views you know I don't know what Justin Bieber sounds like I have no idea what a Justin Bieber is like an angel Is that it Brian?

[1158] Yeah just in the commercial first That one has a commercial What commercial what product are they sell with this guy's drowning video.

[1159] StarCraft, it looks like.

[1160] No. Some kind of a video game.

[1161] Yeah, weird.

[1162] Halo or StarCraft?

[1163] I did another podcast on a plane with Ari Shafir.

[1164] Oh, how to go?

[1165] We were blitzkrieked.

[1166] We ate an edible before we got on the plane.

[1167] It's the best.

[1168] And we were, dude, we were gone, like scary gone.

[1169] Like, it was like my whole body was like tingling with vulnerability.

[1170] You know, to get to that state.

[1171] But you're so taking care of in a plane.

[1172] It's the perfect place.

[1173] to do it.

[1174] Until you freak out and you can't get off the plane.

[1175] Last time Ari was on a plane and did it, he almost had to tell the stewardess that, hey, I need to get off the plane.

[1176] That's a bit of exaggeration because he was on, this is the time he was with me. He said, oh, I almost had to get off the plane.

[1177] I was like, really?

[1178] Not really.

[1179] It was just a thought in his head, but he never really actually did it.

[1180] Like you press the stewardess button and ask if they would mind landing the plane for a second.

[1181] If I'm landing in Phoenix really quick, I just got to run in the woods.

[1182] I don't want to be rude.

[1183] I want to run out into the desert.

[1184] I'm going to find myself.

[1185] I'd like to introduce myself.

[1186] My name is Jonathan Murphy, a performance artist.

[1187] I hate him already.

[1188] My work is heavily influenced by Chris Burden's performance art from the 70s.

[1189] He's the artist's most famous for his piece shoot in which he had his friend shoot him in the arm with a 22 caliber rifle.

[1190] That was a wonderful piece.

[1191] What you're about to see next is a piece of mine in time.

[1192] Idle drowning.

[1193] I feel that this piece requires a little bit of explanation.

[1194] When water enters the airway, the vocal cords constrict and seal off the air tube, thus preventing any water from entering the lungs.

[1195] This is called a lyrgygnospasm.

[1196] During this initial phase of drowning, very little water, if any, actually enters the lungs, it actually fills up the stomach.

[1197] My hands were bound and a concrete block was placed on my chest.

[1198] This was done in order to weigh me down, but it also would help force air out of my lungs once I lost breath.

[1199] You'll see that noseclips were used as well in order to ensure safety.

[1200] My friends were instructed to...

[1201] When you're fucking drowning yourself.

[1202] Wait for me to go unconscious and then immediately pull me out of the water.

[1203] That in cocks, it sounds like.

[1204] So, I think that's pretty much it.

[1205] Let's watch.

[1206] His friend, like, how many minutes did his friend think about not picking up that walk?

[1207] I wonder how long you went under for.

[1208] So this guy's in his underwear is now.

[1209] First of all, that's a bitch -ass move.

[1210] If you're going to drown, you should be balls out.

[1211] Fucking let your cock hang out, son.

[1212] Shit yourself.

[1213] Yeah.

[1214] Come on, man. You're afraid we're going to see your penis while you're drowning.

[1215] You know, you're showing us your ass there, son.

[1216] boy you're dying in a tub and you're worried about people seeing your penis you fucking pussy you fucking fake crazy person there's a cinder block on his chest by the way that cinder block ain't stopping me from drowning bitch I'll stand right the fuck up what the fuck is that is that real dumb so is this guy just gonna start breathing now what happens here he's just lying there with this cinder block on his chest and somewhere around the long I guess he's gonna like take a breath of water Yeah, he's going to have to get air And he won't be able to get out So he's just holding his breath right now As long as he can Yeah So what the fuck happened to this guy While we're going through this Because it's probably going to take a minute What the fuck happened to this guy That he wants to drown himself in a tub Watch too many episodes of two and a half men That affected way he talks Makes me want to kick him in the balls Doesn't it?

[1217] For the arts Joe Don't understand Work was heavily influenced by another douchebag From the 70s He shot himself in the arm It's amazing piece His piece called Shoot Me And this is called bathtub drowning The most unoriginal names This is called drowning Well I mean that's what it is Why call it anything else right Just fucking put some icing on it Come up with something I don't know man So while we're pausing folks This guy is still just lying there in the tub Holding his breath With his eyes open Yeah he hasn't given up yet And he's getting ready to give up He's starting to spas Because it's towards the end of the video The beautiful thing about YouTube is You can see that little bar the bottom.

[1218] There he goes.

[1219] There he goes.

[1220] He's breathing now.

[1221] Oh, wow.

[1222] Oh, this is fucked.

[1223] Oh, my God.

[1224] So they got him on the floor now, and now they're doing CPR to him.

[1225] So, so fuck, the guy's blowing in his mouth right now, and he's still not back.

[1226] He's still done.

[1227] I guess this guy, hopefully this guy really knows how to do CPR.

[1228] Yeah, yeah, right?

[1229] This guy, I took this class a couple years ago.

[1230] ever done this to a live body before?

[1231] You want a real experience lifeguard type character.

[1232] It seems like it's taking a long time.

[1233] This is scary as shit.

[1234] He's still, he's counting, he's looking up and counting and blowing into this guy's.

[1235] I don't see a lot of effort on his party either.

[1236] I don't see him really fucking pushing that air.

[1237] This is fuck, man. This guy's still under.

[1238] Or dead or drowned or whatever.

[1239] Isn't brain cells dying right now?

[1240] Isn't this like...

[1241] How many minutes does it have to be?

[1242] Because it hasn't been that many minutes.

[1243] The guy was...

[1244] Well, he was under the bat.

[1245] Yeah, what if they didn't?

[1246] And they're both assisted murderers, you know?

[1247] That sound that you heard was his friend running back into the room.

[1248] And now he's back to life.

[1249] Holy shit.

[1250] Holy shit.

[1251] What the fuck, man?

[1252] That took a long -ass time.

[1253] Holy fuck.

[1254] Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.

[1255] Dude, that is a trip.

[1256] Let's see at the end, Brian.

[1257] Let's see if he's got something stupid to say.

[1258] I'm like, I don't know what the fuck I was thinking.

[1259] Don't try this at home.

[1260] We are all fascinated by that transition, you know, from here to there, from present to not.

[1261] Yeah.

[1262] From life to death, from here to gone, you know?

[1263] We're all fascinated by that, man. The death of the body.

[1264] How often do you trip about that?

[1265] Dying?

[1266] Oh, look what I got for you, by the way.

[1267] Do you keep forgetting?

[1268] I got your notebook that you left here when you lived here.

[1269] We're not going to read from it.

[1270] He, Joe's already read through it.

[1271] I heard about what you have to say about ponies.

[1272] Thanks.

[1273] This thing has been burning a hole through my chest.

[1274] You're just lucky that you didn't become famous.

[1275] You're lucky that you didn't become famous in the time between living here and going out on your own.

[1276] Because I would have sold that fucking thing.

[1277] If you were Charlie Sheen, I'd be on the Today Show right now.

[1278] I have the documents.

[1279] That is a true friend to give this embarrassing journal back.

[1280] Well, this is a journal that Duncan got the boot from his middle.

[1281] this is back in the day and live with me for a few months.

[1282] Best roommate ever, by the way.

[1283] The only one that's ever cleaned, I've had a couple guys live with me. The only one that ever, like, actually kept his room clean is Duncan.

[1284] But Tate lived with me for a few months, and it was like a goddamn tornado in there.

[1285] Tate's a fucking savage.

[1286] Tate might as well, I just might as well just cut a hole in the side of the hill, and Tate would have lived in there just the same.

[1287] Tate's crazy.

[1288] But anyway, Duncan wrote this journal about his feelings and the relationship.

[1289] The reason why I brought this up, the reason why my mind even went to it in the first place, is because a lot of people are scared of the isolation tank for the same reason they're scared of death because it almost is like a personal death of you you know like a temporary death of you for a brief moment you cease to exist when you go into that tank that tank is also something that helped you and this is where the connection to this journal comes from while you were going through this breakup you kind of reassessed your whole life it was really interesting to watch you know you you came when you called me up and you were really bummed out and she kicked you out and you were in a hotel room.

[1290] And then I'm like, hey, you fucking come live with me. And then you moved and you were like a little frazzled.

[1291] You were like, thanks a lot, man. I really appreciate it.

[1292] I'm like, hey, I'm living by myself.

[1293] This is all good.

[1294] You know, Duncan's living with me now.

[1295] We're going to have some fun.

[1296] It's been great.

[1297] It's been great.

[1298] Everything's going to be fine.

[1299] But you were clearly like lost.

[1300] You know, you would like gotten, you know, when you get dumped, man, it's like this fucking feeling of shit.

[1301] I don't have a home anymore.

[1302] Like where am I sleeping now?

[1303] Massive.

[1304] Like just a hundred percent change.

[1305] you've been living this certain way long enough to get used to it and then all of a sudden everything absolutely changes like just a huge turn that you probably thought could happen but you're trying to imagine that it wasn't even a possibility and it happens well that yeah that's like you go into shock you're attached to a certain rhythm a certain pattern a certain set of surroundings that massively changes you go into shock and that is the perfect time to get in a fucking flotation tank when everything's discombobulated and floating around inside of you and all the all the weird assemblage of emotions and more than anything though what's cool about that shit is you get a real taste of truth like that's what truth is right there that's like the experience of truth which is change which is dramatic radical change fucking unavoidable happens all the time the the isolation tank keeps you from distracting yourself and makes you think about your life.

[1306] It makes you think about what's going on.

[1307] So for me, it was so fascinating having you here at a real low point and watching you pull right out of it, right out of it, like very quickly.

[1308] Like you, when you got into that tank, within a few weeks, man, you were laughing about shit and joking around about shit.

[1309] Yeah, it was cool.

[1310] It was, yeah, it definitely, definitely helped.

[1311] And that's why you're, it was, that's why friends are so important because, like, if you don't, have friends and you get into that predicament oh terrible it's the worth feeling more it to feel completely alone yeah yeah and but you know even if you don't have friends you can still pull yourself out of it but you have to i guess really want you know you you have to want to yeah yeah you well it's it's mean it's look anyone can can improve their surroundings so you can improve your situation but it was really interesting for me watching you because it was such an unusual opportunity for both of us.

[1312] It was an unusual opportunity for me to watch someone who didn't have a lot of experience with a tank, but who was such a curious person and psychedelically experienced like you and then have access to this thing on a daily basis.

[1313] And for me to watch you go from this like really low point to like really like gaining ground.

[1314] Like you came out of it like stronger.

[1315] It was so fucking cool climbing out of that thing in that state of being.

[1316] in the state of like having had because you know they're psyched psychedelics are not limited to drugs like there are many ways to induce a psychedelic state of mind the tank being one of them and um another way to induce a psychedelic state of mind is to have dramatic change happen in your life that rips back whatever delusion you were living by and shows you the true universe yeah Yeah, people turn, the term psychedelic to a lot of people means like seeing things that aren't there, hallucinations, dancing mice, you know, shit like that, pink elephants flying through the sky.

[1317] That's not a real psychedelic state.

[1318] The real psychedelic state is the dissolution of cultural conformity and your ideas of the universe, all your predetermined patterns of thinking, all your adopted behavior patterns, all that gets stripped away and you're left with the core of you and your decisions and what, what you can.

[1319] can and can't change and how you led yourself into a position where you were so weak in the first place that you needed saving from like what what where why did you have no foundation why did you fall apart what what is it about you know life and about trying to get by in this world that leaves are so fucking vulnerable sometimes and so in need of other human beings to stack us up and to hold us up and watching you man it was really fucking cool it was really cool because you really used it man you got in there all the time you know and you were you were getting down talking about it and it was a fucking trip you know i don't know if you wrote it about it in the thing because i didn't read it i i've had that thing for years that didn't even take a look at that i read to him over the phone and then he made me stop and i said i don't want read any more of it this is years ago that thing has been sitting in my fucking my office for i'm terrified i think it's like 2004 or something what year was this i can't wait till i didn't date it 2004 or 2005 i believe it was I read it.

[1320] Yeah.

[1321] It's cool, though.

[1322] I mean, you've got a window into a certain time in your life, you know, where you were, you were in the shits.

[1323] Well, I'll tell you, man, that unfortunately happens.

[1324] But, you know.

[1325] You say that, but I don't think it's unfortunate at all.

[1326] Oh, right.

[1327] Imagine if you were stuck with that chick now.

[1328] No. Jesus Christ.

[1329] Think about that.

[1330] Think about your situation now.

[1331] Think about your situation then.

[1332] How much happier you are now.

[1333] You could have been stuck.

[1334] I mean, you know, if you talked her into taking you back or something.

[1335] something gross, oh, with a child or something.

[1336] Oh, Jesus Christ, stop right there.

[1337] You know, I mean, it's funny how you're a different human now than you're than you're so much more confident.

[1338] You know, it's one of the things that I saw when you went up in Montreal.

[1339] Right.

[1340] Like, even your sets now, you're so much more confident.

[1341] You go up there, you're so much more, you know, you're so much more, what's the word?

[1342] You're, you're resigned to who you are.

[1343] Yeah.

[1344] Not resigned, rather.

[1345] You're not, the word, but it's not resigned.

[1346] designed, because that sounds like you're giving up.

[1347] It's not, that's not what I mean.

[1348] You are completely aware of who you are.

[1349] That's the best way of saying it.

[1350] And that when you're going on stage now, you're going on stage, not trying to convince them of anything, you're just, this is me and this is what I'm doing.

[1351] This is what I have to say.

[1352] Whereas before, you were like, hey, I hope you like me. Yeah.

[1353] Do you like me?

[1354] You don't like me?

[1355] Well, here, I'm going to say something.

[1356] I guess, well, I guess that weirded out.

[1357] Let me just say, I think the reason the word resigned popped out of your mouth first is because I think there is a certain level.

[1358] of being, and it sounds like it's like I'm giving up, but resigned can also be like a kind of surrender where you're like, I'm just no longer going to spend time, whether on stage or off stage, I'm not going to spend time anymore trying to convince myself or other people that I'm some certain way and I'm going to start trying to approach people from where I'm at.

[1359] Yes.

[1360] Which is not a perfect place for most people.

[1361] Most of us are, you know, have fucked up things that we do.

[1362] And why wouldn't you?

[1363] I mean, you're going to look at where you're at.

[1364] Like you say, we're in a fucking ball flying through fucking space.

[1365] How are you supposed to adapt to this in some brilliant way right off the bat?

[1366] You know, you can't.

[1367] You're in this insane dimension where we're getting rocketed through space, where you're going to die.

[1368] You're surrounded by people who call themselves your family that you're supposed to have attachments to.

[1369] they're going to die.

[1370] You're in a life where you've just adopted certain modes of being.

[1371] I didn't have a baby.

[1372] I didn't get married.

[1373] But a lot of people do when they weren't ready and they weren't supposed to.

[1374] And they get married and they have a baby.

[1375] And they are theoretically for this incarnation pretty fucking trapped.

[1376] They're in.

[1377] A lot of people are.

[1378] They have all kinds of weird situations where the relationship, they're stuck somehow or another.

[1379] Whether it's because of a mortgage or because of a business that they started together.

[1380] a mental idea of how things are supposed to be.

[1381] You're stuck with some person.

[1382] Or you give birth to a child that has like a melted brain and you've got to take care of like a little like sick kid for 12 years or like there's so many different ways that your particular DNA can get rivuleted down into a shitty trap where you're just like there it's like that's why I like that movie.

[1383] You said you didn't want to see it and I'm sorry if you've seen it didn't like it.

[1384] But what was that, 127 hours?

[1385] Did you see that?

[1386] No, I didn't see it because I knew the story.

[1387] And I, you know, I don't want to watch some dude Hackens.

[1388] Yeah, that's just a torture movie.

[1389] There's no reason to watch it.

[1390] Dude, everybody says that it's a torture movie like it was fixated on the gore or the, but it wasn't.

[1391] It's a fucking metaphor, which is that sometimes doing the thing you love to do, whatever it is, and that's for a lot of people's fucking, doing the thing you love most, you can end up getting your goddamn.

[1392] arm pinned down.

[1393] So you're you're connecting someone having a baby to cutting your arm off.

[1394] That's funny.

[1395] No, I'm not connecting.

[1396] If you have a baby for the right reason.

[1397] No, I know what you're saying for the wrong reason.

[1398] I know what you're saying.

[1399] Look, you're saying what you're saying what you're saying what you're saying is, you know, we were talking about our friend who tweeted something about having a child is like the exact opposite of winning the lottery.

[1400] Yeah.

[1401] I used to think the exact same way until I had children.

[1402] But my situation is very different in that, first of all, I'm older.

[1403] I've more experience in life and I'm secure financially and happy in the relationships.

[1404] It was all good things at a good time.

[1405] But when I look back on past relationships, some of them, there's a bunch of relationships that I've been in, you know, like way back in the day when I was younger and I really didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

[1406] I was hanging around with chicks that I probably really didn't even like that much, but I was still having sex with them.

[1407] And sometimes you'd have like a crazy fucking breakup or crazy bad relationship.

[1408] That person could be out there with your kid.

[1409] And then you have to deal with all kinds of the nonsense that comes with that.

[1410] I mean, we all know somebody that has kids, you know, that's in some shit situation.

[1411] So I hear what you're saying, man. But that, so what, yeah, what I'm really saying is like the idea, and it goes back to being comfortable, resigned to who you are.

[1412] Yes, that's where I think.

[1413] I didn't like the way I said resign, though.

[1414] I didn't mean resign.

[1415] I don't mind.

[1416] Sometimes you have to be resigned.

[1417] You know what I mean?

[1418] Not all of us are fucking Charlie Sheen.

[1419] not all of us are rock stars from Mars not all of us are a freaking rock star from Mars yeah some of us are like you know we all kind of pretend I'm not special we're fucked up in a lot of ways man and and that's if you start from it's like you know one thing that I would try to do when I used to work out and it's like when I when I first start working out I would try to lift weight that was so much more heavy than what I should have been lifting out of this sense of like I could lift heavy weights and so now I'm like trying to lift like way too well I'm like I should be at the fucking pink weights and I'm like trying to do pink weights you know what I mean I'm trying to do like really fucking heavy weights because it's like this is how I see myself down the line after I've been lifting pink weights for a while that's how you get to the heavy weights right but if you start off right away trying to pump those fucking heavy weights then it's disaster you're going to pull your fucking muscles like people how you know like dudes who lifted weights one guy I think came up to me he's like looking at me like what are you doing he's like that's way too much weight and so this is like having a kid when you're 16 having a kid when you're 16 or deciding that you're a famous comedian before you are getting on stage after a couple of months and getting in your fucking head that you're like you've been doing stand -up for 15 years or being a fucking painter when and like just immediately thinking you're a great painter because I've had friends who've gotten into painting right and they've only painted for a year and they show me some of their paintings and the look on their face is like I'm supposed to react to it like I'm seeing a Picasso or something it's like I hate almost everyone that shows me things that I'm supposed to look at that they did almost every time someone does that to me I'm like are you really going to do this to me man please don't do this don't make me read your fucking script don't ask me to read your script you fuck I hate you can read my script bro it's the worst oh the worst is when it's bad and then you're obligated to talk to them and go here's the situation.

[1420] You know, you basically did men in black meets back to the future written by a 12 -year -old.

[1421] You know, like, you can't say that, but you can't even say that.

[1422] You have to go, wow, that's pretty good, man. It's pretty good.

[1423] Well, no, then you're, see, that's the thing.

[1424] That's where you get, and I think kind of what we're talking about, which is like, at some point, you have to make a decision.

[1425] Am I going to spend the rest of my life lying to the world?

[1426] Am I going to spend the rest of my life trying to manipulate it?

[1427] late people around me because I'm too lazy to tell them the truth or am I just going to start telling the truth?

[1428] Well, what if it, though, if it's a friend that's written something really cool, though?

[1429] What if someone has got a script?

[1430] That's the problem with all the shitheads that want you to read their scripts.

[1431] It makes you super skeptical for the occasional rare person and actually write something good.

[1432] Right.

[1433] And it's just like, hey, I think this is pretty good.

[1434] Do you want to read it?

[1435] And then you're like, yeah, all right, I'll read it.

[1436] You know, but I mean, how many of those are there?

[1437] Most people I know who are really good at things, they don't ask me to look at it.

[1438] I end up looking at it because I want to.

[1439] Yeah.

[1440] Like my friend, Emoli just visited, like, his music's fucking good.

[1441] So, like, I try to get new CDs of his, because I want to listen to it because it's really fucking good.

[1442] Yeah.

[1443] But sometimes somebody else sends you something.

[1444] Or somebody, you'd be in their car if they're a musician, and then they'll put their shit on and you have to listen to it.

[1445] Oh, it's the worst.

[1446] You're stuck.

[1447] Never do that.

[1448] That is the group.

[1449] Never let a musician drive.

[1450] You always have to drive.

[1451] And never let them get in your car with a CD.

[1452] It's in your hand, bitch.

[1453] It's in your fucking hand.

[1454] Oh, it's so hard.

[1455] You know why?

[1456] Because you're suddenly, you're forced suddenly, not just to evaluate how miserable an artist they are, how cliche and shitty their music is, but also you have to, you realize that the fact that they felt comfortable playing this for you means they think it's good.

[1457] So they're so deluded and so fucked up.

[1458] They're like, oh, yeah, I'm going to, they've been waiting all day to play their music because they think.

[1459] You get really attached to a script or a piece of music or a joke or, I mean, how many times have you had a friend who's just starting out and they have a bit and you got, you want to tell them like, hey man, you need to drive.

[1460] drop that bit.

[1461] That bit like, no, no, no, it's good.

[1462] It's good.

[1463] It's good.

[1464] This is a bad crowd tonight.

[1465] I've been doing it.

[1466] It's been killing.

[1467] Terrible crowd.

[1468] But you're fundamentally looking at the whole premise and what he's saying.

[1469] You're like, this is a shit joke, dude.

[1470] This is terrible.

[1471] It's a clunker.

[1472] If someone's just been doing stand -up for less than a year, I don't even critique their material because I know they're going to grow out of it and it's going to change and it's going to get, it's like the first year of stand -up, you can't do any.

[1473] you're lucky if you're if you're really well isn't that like any bit it's only takes a couple things to add to something that's the whole point and no bit starts off like a great a bit from the beginning usually it's usually you have some kind of idea and you try to go through it and then like add to it and make it an actual bit right so that's what's weird about me because like i'll go on stage and people come up to me and go dude that bit sucks or whatever but i'm like yeah but this is like the second time i've ever said it you know so well you know the thing is it's like There's no fucking rules about it or anything.

[1474] It just takes a long time.

[1475] I mean, it takes a long time.

[1476] Brian, you're more advanced than someone who's only been doing comedy for a year.

[1477] You know, you're doing pretty good right now.

[1478] Yeah.

[1479] You're, you've also had the opportunity to do stand up, take off for five years and be around high level stand -up comedy on a regular basis.

[1480] You're always at the improv.

[1481] You're always at Sal's.

[1482] You go on the road.

[1483] You see Joey Crush and Ari Crush.

[1484] You see me do my sets.

[1485] And so all these fucking, this comedy is in your head.

[1486] I mean, you're getting to see like, you get to see Bill.

[1487] Burr all the time whenever he's in town you see Louis C .K. You've seen Chappelle.

[1488] You've seen so many fucking comics man. It's like your exposure to high level stand -up comedy is much much more you know, it's much deeper than the average open micer.

[1489] Definitely, but it doesn't help me write anymore.

[1490] You know what I mean?

[1491] That's what I knew like yesterday.

[1492] Yesterday I was like, all right I'm going to do no new, like this is all new jokes night, you know, yesterday.

[1493] And I was like, but fuck, I didn't write anything.

[1494] So I'm like looking through my notes going, okay, there was an idea, there's an idea, trying to make bits but I didn't write any of this shit out so I went on stage I pretty much didn't have nothing you know it's it's funny like writing into me or at least thinking of you can't go on stage balls out like that with nothing in your head you have to have some material first well usually I like the only way you can do that is if you're Joey Diaz or if you're doing it a long time like I'll go on stage sometimes and I'll fuck around and I don't know what I'm gonna like I came up with that bit about the birds like you know there's birds that are falling from the sky you know and everyone's like oh it's a fucking apocalypse man look the birds And I'm like, one thing that you don't consider is that birds are cunts, okay?

[1495] First of all, who cares about birds falling from the fucking sky?

[1496] Birds don't give a shit about you.

[1497] They're surviving dinosaurs.

[1498] And second of all, why do we think that it's apocalypse?

[1499] Maybe it's some one badass worm becomes a sorcerer and just decides to get back all these cunty birds that have been fucking with his family for generations.

[1500] And, you know, he's wearing a wizard's robe.

[1501] And he's just, it's called winning.

[1502] You know, so this bit, it's turned into a bit.

[1503] and it came out of nowhere.

[1504] Literally, I had no idea what I was going to say.

[1505] But I knew that if I had nothing there, I have another bit ready.

[1506] That it was actually a bit.

[1507] Right.

[1508] And so because you have like these little bridges, you know, that you have, this bridge is built.

[1509] I'm going to go right into fire at the San Francisco Hotel.

[1510] Boom.

[1511] It's right there.

[1512] It's solid.

[1513] And so I know that I can take a chance.

[1514] Like, let's just swing off this vine and hope I can catch that bridge or, you know, or catch a vine that I didn't know was there.

[1515] How cool is it when that starts?

[1516] when you start killing and you're improvising and you're in that bizarre like wave where suddenly you're not doing any jokes.

[1517] And then sometimes I've improvised and done well and then tried to go back into a joke.

[1518] Yeah.

[1519] And it doesn't do as well because they were so used to that stuff that was coming in the moment.

[1520] Yes.

[1521] Like that's a weird thing, man. They can tell too.

[1522] They feel it.

[1523] They sense it.

[1524] He's doing material.

[1525] Yeah.

[1526] And also they can tell that you're freeballing too.

[1527] They can tell like when Joey D has free balls, like sometimes I'll run up to.

[1528] him offstage.

[1529] I go, did you plan that one?

[1530] And they'll go, nah, I fucking came up with it right there.

[1531] Like, he did a joke about his dick, he was doing this thing about Viagra.

[1532] This is the Sunday night show in Brea.

[1533] He was doing the thing about, you never copped a dead dick.

[1534] You never copped a dead dick.

[1535] He goes, if your dick's dead, this is what you do.

[1536] You go out of the fucking refrigerator, you get those popsicle sticks, and you wrap that dick up like a fucking wounded soldier.

[1537] Send it back in.

[1538] He was talking about putting your dick at a splint with popsicle sticks.

[1539] And the way he was saying it, it was fucking, it was so, it was, there's a feeling of magic as he was saying this and he is killing before he says this so he goes into this like red -faced like Joey Diaz purple -faced screaming spits flying out you never copped a dead dick you send that dick in like a wounded soldier and me and Ari were fucking crying laughing and I couldn't wait for him to get off stage so I could ask him was that off the top of your head that he said it came out of nowhere just came out of nowhere like all the sudden it seemed like a bit like it was all there and it was because he was willing to swing just take this chance and see where it brings you.

[1540] You know, to be able to do that, though, in front of several hundred people is rare.

[1541] Like, with you, your stage right now, you can't quite do that yet.

[1542] What your stage right now, what you've got to do is you've got to write things down.

[1543] Well, one of my biggest bits I did that, though, with the come on your face.

[1544] That was made up on stage.

[1545] What bit is that?

[1546] The pets.

[1547] Oh, well, yeah, that was a line.

[1548] You came up with a line for an already existing bit.

[1549] No, no, no. That whole bit was written on stage.

[1550] Really?

[1551] Yeah.

[1552] And it just came up on one day, it was a Sunday show.

[1553] I mean, that's what I mean talking about.

[1554] I'll do that all the time, where I'll think just like either on stage or right when I'm going to, like the other day I had this thing where...

[1555] You were talking about that before you ever did it on stage, Brian.

[1556] You talked about that a few times.

[1557] What?

[1558] Before you talked about the ex -girlfriends, how you have these pets from them and they all have the same personality.

[1559] Yeah, but I didn't.

[1560] I mean, the first time I went, I thought of that bit, I was seriously waiting for the comic in front of me to get off stage.

[1561] And I'm just thinking, like, I've got to do something about my animals because I feel like I'm a single.

[1562] single mom right now.

[1563] And so I went on stage and said, hey, you know, I feel like a single mom.

[1564] Oh, so maybe when you talked to me about it, you had already done it on stage.

[1565] Maybe it's that.

[1566] Yeah, yeah.

[1567] I don't like when people do that.

[1568] When they pretend they're having a conversation with you and really they're trying out material.

[1569] Right.

[1570] That's just the word.

[1571] What's worse is when it's very obvious.

[1572] You know, some people can actually get away with it because you're like telling the joke and they think, you know, it's funny.

[1573] But some people just, you could tell they're just doing bits.

[1574] There's a dude I used to play pool with and it was brutal.

[1575] He was a comic and he used to go, tell me if you think there's anything in this.

[1576] No, oh, that's the worst.

[1577] And I dropped my head down.

[1578] He didn't have a whole lot of friends, and he was, like, really into his comedy.

[1579] And he was one of those guys.

[1580] He was a decent comic, but he wrote out every fucking joke, as he would say it on stage.

[1581] So it never seemed like when he was on stage that he was really just up there fucking around.

[1582] It always seemed like, here's some material that I wrote today.

[1583] Yeah, right.

[1584] And so he, like, holds me hostage there while we're playing pool.

[1585] and while he says out the whole joke, you know, like literally, have you ever noticed?

[1586] Like, he gives me a have you ever noticed.

[1587] Oh, no. I'm like, you motherfucker.

[1588] Did you just give me a have you ever noticed?

[1589] Have you ever noticed?

[1590] I noticed a lot of shit, dude.

[1591] You want to talk about other shit I notice?

[1592] Man, that's the problem with comedy, man. Is there like good comedy?

[1593] But there's like the shitty comedian is a pathetic figure, man. It's just such a rough mode of being, man. It's such a silly.

[1594] embarrassing existence?

[1595] What's the idea that you command the attention of the crowd?

[1596] Your voice is amplified.

[1597] There's a light spot put on you and you are supposedly so entertaining and interesting that all you have to do is talk and you're going to grab the attention of all these people in this room.

[1598] You're requesting this exorbitant amount of attention and it's because you claim to have this skill and the skill is you're going to elicit laughter, going to extract laughter from the audience.

[1599] Yeah.

[1600] Good luck.

[1601] It was really weird lately, if I have been noticing, there's this whole breed of comic, open mic or mostly, but that does their whole act, but not once did you think, no, there's a joke there, meaning like they're just talking and they're forgetting that this is supposed to be funny almost.

[1602] Like they're almost saying a story, and when they're done with the story, they expect you to clap, but then you, you know, nothing in it was even a joke where it's like, is that their sense of humor is that bad?

[1603] They just don't get...

[1604] They're open micers.

[1605] You're dealing with open micers.

[1606] I mean, you're, it's like, that's like saying, like, how come this guy who, you know, doesn't know how to throw a punch at all thinks he's going to be on the ultimate fighter?

[1607] You know, you just, they're not good.

[1608] They're incompetent.

[1609] It's so amazing that people could be that bad, though.

[1610] What's amazing is they can be that bad forever.

[1611] I mean, how many dudes have you ever seen at the comedy store that've been doing stand -up for 10 -plus years doing open mics and they're still, like, brutally bad?

[1612] It's so insane.

[1613] Like, how do you not, you should progress?

[1614] Like, you're talented in the opposite way.

[1615] The fact that you haven't gotten better.

[1616] at all and you've been doing it for some people 15 years I don't think you can get better if you're not good at all I think there are some guys that get into comedy that truly don't understand what comedy is and they see other people doing it and talking it but they're so socially unaware that they don't know how they come off to other people and they probably don't have the tools the psychological tools the cognitive tools to really objectively assess their own personality so they're never going to be able to do it They literally are never going to be.

[1617] You have to have a certain amount of awareness in order to do stand -up.

[1618] And there's a lot of people that attempt it that just don't have that.

[1619] They don't have it, man. You've got to do something has to happen dramatic.

[1620] You got to go to Mexico and do Ibrahimagame.

[1621] Yeah, something like that.

[1622] Get your mind blown.

[1623] Yeah, yeah.

[1624] To come back.

[1625] Yeah.

[1626] You literally have to become a different person.

[1627] The person that you are is just, what you have is like, it's like, I want a race in the Formula One Grand Prix, but I have a Toyota Camry.

[1628] What do you think I should do?

[1629] Well, you're fucked.

[1630] These fucking cars go 250 miles an hour, and they're three inches off the ground.

[1631] What are you going to do?

[1632] You're not going to do that.

[1633] You're not equipped for it.

[1634] You have to change your equipment, you know?

[1635] That's it.

[1636] That's what it takes.

[1637] The snake must shed its goddamn skin from time to time.

[1638] This is the end.

[1639] Praise Jesus.

[1640] Praise the love.

[1641] My only friend, the end.

[1642] Well, you're all slaves.

[1643] Right the snake.

[1644] Dude, you know, I've just, this is kind of like a weird off -topic idea that I've had, but I wanted to tell you about it because I had this weird, because you were Catholic.

[1645] This whole thing is off -topic.

[1646] You can never say this is an off -topic in this podcast.

[1647] This is off the script that we've been rehearsing for the last few days.

[1648] I was raised Catholic, yeah.

[1649] And in religion, there's this idea of tithing where you're supposed to get 10 % of your income to the church.

[1650] So, dude, I've started thinking about that.

[1651] And I've started thinking, like, how fucking interesting.

[1652] would your life get if you decided to give 10 % of your income not to the church but you decided to like give 10 % of your income to do like really cool things for people randomly you know what I mean right I see what you're saying you know what I'm saying you know what I said you're own sort of church offering yeah but it's not no church is involved or anything you're just like because like man like to go back to the idea of psychedelic states things that induce psychedelic states fucking helping someone randomly that doesn't expect you to like if you go out and you think i'm gonna go i'm not a big fan of giving money to like people in front of 7 -11 or like covered in sores i think that that's like kind of like a way of killing somebody but like if you go out and like have some extra money and decide to i'm going to do something cool with this or you just try to like convert your financial energy into some positive thing that you randomly do for someone and you decide I'm going to do this from 2 to 4 o 'clock today.

[1653] Right.

[1654] That puts you in the weirdest, most psychedelic state.

[1655] And when you do some random good thing for somebody, dude, it blows people's minds.

[1656] Yeah.

[1657] Like, they freak the fuck out.

[1658] Like, the look on their face is like, what just happened to me?

[1659] Because everything is inverted in our society towards the self.

[1660] Everyone's always thinking about themselves.

[1661] Everyone's always fixating on themselves.

[1662] If for two hours, you don't fixate on yourself.

[1663] long enough to go do some random fucking thing for somebody dude it's trippy I definitely think that put an energy in towards you know any any sort of charitable notion anything where you're helping people it definitely is the right kind of energy to put out there in the world it definitely can induce you know a different state of mind a different state of being but the charity thing which is great I mean anything's good like but when you know you call in and you give money to somebody or you have some kind of fund that you put money into that helps something.

[1664] I'm talking about like physically.

[1665] Right.

[1666] I know what you're saying.

[1667] Oh, okay.

[1668] Yeah.

[1669] Well, you, yeah.

[1670] I mean, like, going out and helping people.

[1671] I definitely agree.

[1672] I mean, how many of these fucking organizations keep getting busted charitable organizations when you find out like the White Cleve -Jean thing for Haiti and, you know, you find out they're all stealing money and it's like, it's always, it's always, something like that is always going down.

[1673] Doing random cool things for people, it does, it gives you like, it definitely gives you some sort of a weird charge.

[1674] You know, when I gave away my isolation tank online, that was one of the coolest things that I ever did because I mean this fucking $8 ,000 piece of equipment and some dude I don't even know just and then bought salt salt was like $1 ,200 and then had it moved to his house you know I had to pay for a moving company and then I had to pay for an installer to go install it in his house meanwhile the fucking guy doesn't even use it that bastard yeah man I want to ask him for it back I can give it to you do you have a place that works out oh he has the best place ever now I got a perfect place for a tank you need to get one I want to see his man cave yeah we need to we need to get you I got a place that I got a fucking man cave.

[1675] I got a place right next to a shower where it could just, I could just basically go right from the flotation tape into the shower.

[1676] The world needs Duncan Trousel to have a fucking isolation tank.

[1677] Please, God, hear my prayer.

[1678] Really, you need to make some money.

[1679] Yeah, what do you, you're with, well, you've got a couple different projects going on.

[1680] But when one of these hits, man, when you get your first fat check, we're going to get you.

[1681] If this guy won't give up the tank, I don't think this guy wants to give up his tank.

[1682] I think he's going through a divorce now, though.

[1683] So he might have to move the tank You might not have the money to reset the tank up Right I'll store it for him I talked to him like a year after I sent it to him And he's like yeah I hardly ever use it I'm like you fuck I'm like god damn it happened to do it randomly Yeah but you know I figured anybody that was And the guy was like a wannabe stand -up comedian He's like trying to be a comic It's like Jesus Christ dude I gave you a fucking doorway to the universe And you don't open it and go through it every now and then I bet he's got his old checks in there I bet there's no water in it He just puts old boxes in it.

[1684] If I was thinking, I would have just built a shed.

[1685] I just built a shed for a washer and dryer.

[1686] You know how easy it would have been just to build a shed for that?

[1687] Would you have used it, though?

[1688] I've never been in one so probably.

[1689] You think?

[1690] I've never been in one so probably.

[1691] Yeah, but I've offered you to go to that soothing solutions.

[1692] You've never gone to that.

[1693] You want to go to that?

[1694] Never made the call.

[1695] You want to do it?

[1696] I'll do it.

[1697] I'll set it up.

[1698] Okay, we'll set it up.

[1699] Or you can go to float lab.

[1700] That's the best place.

[1701] The float lab ones are on another level.

[1702] That guy, Craig, if you're in a tank, Go to floatlap .com and look at what this guy's doing.

[1703] This guy's making these super fucking thick, stainless steel insulated tanks.

[1704] The greatest.

[1705] The apple of flotation tanks.

[1706] Yeah, he's just a bad motherfucker.

[1707] He's like this crazy mad scientist dude.

[1708] He's like really into floating.

[1709] He's trying to invent some new screen where you can watch.

[1710] It's the lowest amount of light is coming through these LCD screens.

[1711] So you can watch documentaries inside the tank and you can learn from it.

[1712] It helps you.

[1713] It seems like it defeats the purpose.

[1714] I think so.

[1715] I'm not into it at all.

[1716] Maybe there's a way to have, like, have, like, information blasted into your brain.

[1717] Yeah, well, that's the, what he's saying is that when you don't have, when you have an absence of sensory input, you, you can really absorb information at a much faster rate.

[1718] And it totally makes sense on paper because the whole idea, I mean, look, it's very difficult to watch a movie if there's jackhammer's going on behind you, distracting you.

[1719] If you had a float tank that had an interactive surface on the top of it.

[1720] Right.

[1721] So they can turn completely dark if you.

[1722] You want it to.

[1723] But if you want, you could light the entire fucking thing up with, like, the universe, the Milky Way, I don't know, just blue sky or whatever.

[1724] Just fucking Sanskrit verses from like all the great scriptures flying on there, it'd be incredible.

[1725] Sanskrit versus.

[1726] Well, hopefully there'd be a translation.

[1727] Do you, do you, how long would it take to learn Sanskrit?

[1728] Is that like a 10 -year project?

[1729] I think it would take a long fucking time, but I don't know.

[1730] If anybody would be into that, I would think it would be you.

[1731] I'd love to.

[1732] Just because it's Sanskrit and Tibetan, when I'm on mushrooms and I start, like, you close your eyes and you see those weird symbols.

[1733] I see Egyptian stuff.

[1734] See, that's a thing.

[1735] And I always wonder, these symbols you're seeing, I always think.

[1736] Mayan -looking things.

[1737] If I knew how to read this, would I be reading, like, some kind of message here?

[1738] Is this, am I actually looking at some kind of scripture?

[1739] You know what McKenna believes, actually?

[1740] What he thought was that when you do a psychedelic, what you're doing is you're taking part in the experience of everyone else who's also done that psychedelic.

[1741] That's why we described ketamine as such an odd psychedelic because it seems like its database of users was very, very small.

[1742] So he said ketamine felt like an office building that was empty.

[1743] You'd go in there and there's just empty cubicles, like where is everybody?

[1744] Whereas mushrooms, you're dealing with 10 ,000 years of obsessive daily.

[1745] use by millions of people all over the world.

[1746] And a lot of those being the Mayans, I mean, the Mayans were heavily, heavily into mushrooms.

[1747] You know, when I was in, when I was in Chechnica, and I went on a tour, the guy that took me on a guide was a really, really interesting guy.

[1748] He was a local university professor who also did guides, like did tours and shit like that.

[1749] It was just really deep into the history of it.

[1750] And he just openly talked about the psychedelics, like how they would take psychedelics.

[1751] And they had all different rooms that they would, you know, practice.

[1752] different rituals in, and it's well known that there was a deep, deep history in Mexico of psychedelic mushroom use.

[1753] So it's not surprising that when you do mushrooms, and especially if you do mushrooms that you buy in California, you know, I mean, you're probably getting the same strains that the Mayans got.

[1754] I mean, you're probably getting those Mexican mushrooms.

[1755] And you see all sorts of weird Mayan symbols.

[1756] It's almost like what you're doing is you're somehow or another tapping into their, the past people's psychedelic experiences.

[1757] Obviously, this is all just...

[1758] But are we all going to go each...

[1759] Me, us three.

[1760] We should do it.

[1761] We should just go fucking on the beach somewhere.

[1762] As long as they don't have psilocybin in them, I love to eat mushrooms with you guys.

[1763] Cilocybin.

[1764] What do you mean?

[1765] That's what makes you trip.

[1766] As long as they don't have psilocybin in them?

[1767] I was talking Shataki.

[1768] I don't want to announce eating mushrooms to 500 billion people, which by now at least 3 ,000 or police officers intently listening with a notepad.

[1769] They just said they're going to the beach.

[1770] It's just as ridiculous that mushrooms are illegal as Monsanto trying to, you know, patent a pig.

[1771] It's just as ridiculous.

[1772] Like how the fuck is one person going to tell you that some spore of a fucking plant, a living organism that, by the way, which is actually closer to a human than plants are to humans?

[1773] You know, spores are closer to us than...

[1774] Well, because they eat organic matter.

[1775] Yeah.

[1776] But dude, how fucking crazy it's not just that someone feels okay like enforcing the law.

[1777] If you eat those fucking things that make you see some kind of weird transcendental language that the Mayans were trying to copy down.

[1778] That's what I think.

[1779] I think they were seeing a language and they're like, all right, this is the best way we can replicate this weird language that we were seeing.

[1780] I think that's what happens.

[1781] It could be.

[1782] But to think that something that produces like that effect, there are people right now in federal fucking penitentiaries right now, laying in a cot in a federal penitentiary listening to fucking white Aryan resistance murderers jerking off.

[1783] Just because you wanted to see the mothership.

[1784] for a second.

[1785] You're three doors down from a guy who fisted a six year old.

[1786] What the fuck?

[1787] How is that possible?

[1788] Well, actually, you know, nonviolent drug offenders don't get locked up in the same place as people that fist six year olds, but I know what you're saying.

[1789] Just the fact that they're in a cage at all.

[1790] I mean, maybe you do once you get in there and they, you know, one of the fucking Hispanic guys wants to fight with you and you stab them in a neck and you know, you wind up getting a murder wrap on top of it, which happens.

[1791] It happens to nonviolent drug offenders.

[1792] They wind up getting, you know, much deeper penalties for something they do while they're actually in prison.

[1793] Dude, my friend got a DUI, went to fucking county jail.

[1794] His jaw was broken within six minutes.

[1795] It was like a Saturday night and there were gangbangers there.

[1796] He had to take a piss.

[1797] They wouldn't let him get to the toilet.

[1798] He's like, I've got a piss.

[1799] And they just were like, what did you say?

[1800] What?

[1801] Boom.

[1802] Broke his fucking jaw.

[1803] For what?

[1804] Because he fucking drove from a club after one extra beer?

[1805] That's insane.

[1806] You shouldn't be lumped up in the same group of people.

[1807] But, you know, then again, what if your friend slammed into a fucking car and killed someone's kid?

[1808] Well, I mean, obviously, you don't know how drunk he was and I'm just guessing, but it's the same thing.

[1809] You know, yeah, I just shouldn't drive drunk and God knows, like I'm not saying drunk drunk drunk.

[1810] He won't do that again, right?

[1811] I'm just saying that's not the, yeah, well, I don't know.

[1812] Well, did you get raped?

[1813] Well, you shouldn't have that beer.

[1814] Yeah, that's what you get.

[1815] I guess that's what you get.

[1816] It's so fucked up, man. Well, I don't, you know, I definitely think that people should be penalized for, for putting other people in danger because they're drunk and irresponsible.

[1817] But when it comes to things like mushrooms, it comes to psychedelic experiences and the idea that you can make any sort of plant that grows here or fungus that grows here naturally, it's a part of the ecosystem already.

[1818] Way before, you know, we invented any...

[1819] This is fucking completely ridiculous.

[1820] Especially when you look at all the stuff that is legal and all the stuff that can kill you and all the stuff that you could buy at any store, it's completely silly.

[1821] It's not, there's no logic behind it.

[1822] It's not like this is like a rational decision.

[1823] Like, you're obviously, deciding what I can and can't do.

[1824] You're deciding what kind of experiences I have, and there's no science behind it.

[1825] This is not 1950.

[1826] You can't pull some McCarthyism bullshit on me. I can get online, and I can say, well, look, no one's died from Sylvocyan.

[1827] How come Silasimans is illegal?

[1828] Well, look, here I can show you a thousand different people that'll tell you that they've got over post -traumatic stress disorder, they've gotten over, you know, addictions, they've gotten over all these things because of psychedelic experiences.

[1829] And you're telling me that it's illegal.

[1830] You're telling me that it's bad.

[1831] Why is it bad?

[1832] Here's the deal with anything.

[1833] Whenever there's something that people can benefit from and people have all these stories about and people, there's an area to explore.

[1834] And someone's keeping you from doing that and trying to lock you in jail if you do do that.

[1835] They're the fucking criminals.

[1836] They're the monsters.

[1837] They are the monsters.

[1838] They are the fucking criminals of the human race.

[1839] You are putting a crime on people.

[1840] You are literally stopping people from evolving.

[1841] Yep.

[1842] Those are the fucking demons, man. Stop doing it, Duncan.

[1843] I like to put people in jail.

[1844] Duncan's all about constricting.

[1845] I love it.

[1846] There's nothing I love more than having a mushroom addict in the back of my squad car.

[1847] We're going to have to explore ball gags and whips someday with you.

[1848] Oh, yeah, diapers.

[1849] I remember when the...

[1850] Diapers.

[1851] Do you remember coming up and saying that to me?

[1852] That's hilarious.

[1853] Ball gags, dog.

[1854] All right, just kidding.

[1855] I won't say it.

[1856] Hey, we talked to Steveo today, and he's completely sober now.

[1857] He stopped smoking cigarettes, stopped drinking.

[1858] He said he was doing so much drugs the last couple years of his life.

[1859] There was people walking around his house that didn't exist.

[1860] That's how bad it got.

[1861] But now he just quit everything and now is vegan.

[1862] And isn't that crazy to you to think that somebody that gets in a toilet with shit?

[1863] It's so concerned about his health that he's eating vegan and not on anything.

[1864] Well, yes, he's probably realizing how silly his life was.

[1865] And it's like, you know, putting himself back in line.

[1866] It's like, well, what's the logical step to put yourself as far in line as you can and go vegetarian and vegan?

[1867] There's a guy named John Fitch that fought in this last UFC and he went, he had a vegan diet.

[1868] I thought it was really interesting.

[1869] I wanted to see how he did.

[1870] He wound and he beat BJ Penn. It was sort of, no, I'm sorry, he didn't beat BJ Penn. It was a draw, but he won the final round.

[1871] His cardio was really good.

[1872] It was really solid.

[1873] He was talking about his cardio is like off the charts now, you know, but.

[1874] The straw mean refite?

[1875] They just have to refight?

[1876] I don't know.

[1877] they have to decide now they have to figure out what the fuck to do you know because uh this was for the number one contender spot and you know fitch is still pushing you know after the post fight interview his coach was like you know ask for a title shot ever you know like mom you can't ask for a title shot after you get off of a draw it's just like too tough to sell what did you think was going on with that fight who did you think a draw could be uh expected it depends on how you score the third round the third round the third round was pretty decisive victory for fitch some people thought that was a 108 round you know i'm not really it depends on how you use 10 -8 rounds because the 10 -8 round, the system that they use now, I think it's like they don't give out enough 10 -8 rounds, but you have to decide when is it a 10 -8 round.

[1878] When you're inside a guy's guard and you just punch them to the body into the head, I'm not sure if that's a 10 -8 round.

[1879] I could see it argued, but BJ I thought won the first two rounds, but those were very close, too.

[1880] I could see it argued.

[1881] The Fitch did too.

[1882] Fitch won one of them because, you know, BJ got his back.

[1883] BJ took him down.

[1884] BJ got his back, but then he lost position and Fitch got on top of them.

[1885] So the question is like, well, what is what's worth more?

[1886] Is it worth more to take a guy down and to get a dominant position where you're close to finishing a fight, but then losing it and getting reversed and wind up being your guard with the guy on top of you throwing punches?

[1887] Is that better or is it better to take the guys back?

[1888] What's worth more on points?

[1889] Well, that's a subjective thing, you know, so it's tricky.

[1890] I could see the first two -round score for BJ and I could see, I could see someone scoring one of them for Fitch and I can also see the second, the third round, rather, being 10 -8.

[1891] So I could see a draw.

[1892] We were split, too, when we were watching it.

[1893] Yeah, it's tricky, man. It's tricky.

[1894] I mean, BJ's a bad motherfucker, but he's small for that weight class.

[1895] You know, when he's fighting, he's weighing 166 with his pants on, and he's fighting Fitch, but this is the thing about Fitch, the reason why I brought this up, he was at one point in time, like, 200 pounds, he would cut down to 170, but now he's, like, all organic and vegan, and he's wearing around 180, you know, which is really light for him and then dropping a little weight, but his cardio is, like, way better now, too.

[1896] I've entertained trying, like, a serious vegan diet for a while.

[1897] Me, too.

[1898] But, you know, I heard, like, Travis Barker after he cracked.

[1899] in that plane and he had to get skin grafts and shit like that they didn't take until he started eating meat and he like stopped being a vegan in his recovery from that he was he was a vegan before that and then you know when he started eating red meat then all of a sudden like his healing like like went went through the roof whenever i eat vegan food at a vegan restaurant i fucking love it oh swingers think if i could make this myself i wouldn't want to eat i wouldn't care about but you could make it yourself easily it's a pain in the ass i could be wrong with with our friend when when I dated her it was like having to go to certain restaurants having to do all this bullshit she's not even a vegan anymore now she gave up yeah she eats vegan here and there but she's she doesn't me just fucking filled with hormones right now isn't most just some meat is yeah yeah it depends on where you get in it free range you want free range organic meat and you want grass fed too I like I prefer the taste of grass fed there's a discussion that Ari and I actually had on the podcast on a plane the the difference between grass fed and grain fed beef beef is not it's not it's not natural for them to be eating grain.

[1900] They're not supposed to eat corn.

[1901] We give them corn because it makes them fat as fuck, which makes the meat so delicious and tender when you cook it because there's all this fat bubbling up inside of it and, you know, and melting and it just gets awesome like a big fat fucking grain fed steak, you know, it's just so just melts in your mouth.

[1902] But the reality is they're supposed to be eating grass and when you taste grass fed beef, it has a distinctly different flavor.

[1903] I prefer it.

[1904] But I like game.

[1905] I like eating like, I like venison and elk.

[1906] I like eating like those meats.

[1907] I have like my theories about that shit.

[1908] I feel like anything that's tough to catch is easy or tough to catch rather is really good for you and things that are easy to catch like cows.

[1909] You can just walk right up to a cow and shoot them in a fucking head.

[1910] They're stupid.

[1911] You know, like you'll shoot a cow in the head and a cow right next to them.

[1912] He doesn't even freak out and go, holy fuck.

[1913] But like you try to shoot a pig.

[1914] Pigs will run from you, man. Pigs, you know, like wild pigs, like wild boar.

[1915] Very good for you.

[1916] Cows are fucking sweet creatures.

[1917] Yeah.

[1918] Well, they're cows.

[1919] They're cattle, you know?

[1920] I mean, the idea of cattle, like, being, like, at our mercy, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, they're like, they're like, they're like, you know, like in India, how, like, they worship cows.

[1921] So in India, like, in the streets, there are these cows that have just been being petted by people like dogs.

[1922] They are fucking sweet.

[1923] Don't you think, though, that that docile behavior has been engineered through, through years of breeding for, for them to be, you know, farm animals, for them to be used, to be killed?

[1924] It's an unnatural thing for people to just.

[1925] just walk right up to an animal and be able to pet it.

[1926] People are creepy fucks.

[1927] You know, I mean, you have to engineer an animal to be that docile.

[1928] You know, like wild cows.

[1929] Yeah, oh, yeah, it comes from a long relationship with humans, for sure.

[1930] Yeah, wild cows and shit like that.

[1931] They don't have that sort of, I mean, are there wild cows?

[1932] What the fuck am I talking about?

[1933] It must have been at some point in time.

[1934] It must have been wild, right?

[1935] Well, cows are so valuable, very few of them are wild, right?

[1936] No, no. Cows aren't valuable, are they?

[1937] Like, is there like, wait.

[1938] Cows are very valuable.

[1939] Really?

[1940] A lot of money, sure.

[1941] Of course, man. Steak is expensive.

[1942] How much would it cost to buy a cow?

[1943] It's a good question.

[1944] I think.

[1945] Look it up, man. I would love to do that, man. I would love to have my own farm someday and just have animals that, you know, you know what they're feeding.

[1946] You know what you're feeding them rather.

[1947] If you're going to eat them, you know how they're treated.

[1948] You know that it's all humane.

[1949] Dude, I think about my dream idea of that, which is like this crazy place out in the woods with solar panels where the majority of your electricity.

[1950] or all of it is coming from the sun and you're feeding yourself from this place.

[1951] That's feasible here.

[1952] Yeah, it's feasible, but it's like so, like so much work to run a farm.

[1953] It's insane.

[1954] It's not like either you have like people working for you and doing it or if you're involved in it.

[1955] You're just, there's no, there's, you just work all day and sleep and you wake up and work all day and sleep.

[1956] Yeah.

[1957] You, you, you, but you can be self -sustaining, which is very, you know, rewarding for a lot of people.

[1958] The idea that you grow all your own food, you grow all your own vegetables.

[1959] you grow all your own animals as well.

[1960] But yeah, you could hire a few people to run at me. If you just wanted a farm only for your family's sustenance, you know, that's kind of an interesting theory, you know, an interesting sort of a concept, you know, set up a farm where all the vegetables that you grow are vegetables that you eat.

[1961] And then I guess, you know, in the wintertime, you can them or something where you have a greenhouse or something.

[1962] You can have.

[1963] Looks like cows are about a thousand bucks.

[1964] Thousand bucks for a cow.

[1965] So, so.

[1966] That's a bargain.

[1967] You can get with all the meat on that thing?

[1968] So you can either buy two cows or buy the new MacBook.

[1969] Oh, fucking new MacBook all the way.

[1970] You guys, well, let's end on this because you guys are fucking goofy Macheads as on my iPad 2 in two days.

[1971] What is the new, what is the deal with these MacBooks that you guys keep ranting about?

[1972] They look amazing.

[1973] Well, the biggest thing is the new technology, the Thunderbolt technology, which is like 10 gigabytes per second.

[1974] There's a phone called a Thunderbolt, too, that's out now.

[1975] Who copied off who?

[1976] It's 10 gigabytes per second.

[1977] So what that means is live, like you're pretty much going to be able to hook.

[1978] up an external hard drive and edit HD video easily and run multiple streams of, you know, it's going to help video editing and transferring files.

[1979] Nowadays, when you want to back up your computer, 10 gigabytes a second, come on.

[1980] That's incredible.

[1981] Insane.

[1982] And it has HD video cameras now.

[1983] Also, a bigger solid state drive.

[1984] You can get up to, what was it?

[1985] Everybody's going to think you got sponsored by Mac.

[1986] Well, and.

[1987] I already do.

[1988] We use laptops that have the big Apple logo on.

[1989] It was like one of the people that tried to sponsor us who was like asking like, does Apple pay you?

[1990] You guys have Apple out there.

[1991] I wish Apple please sponsor us.

[1992] But it was like quad cores.

[1993] That's that's 50 times faster than the last last bit of MacBooks.

[1994] 50 times?

[1995] Some of the early benchmarks are showing anywhere from the 13 inch model being about 12 % faster to to to up to 53 % faster.

[1996] Oh, okay.

[1997] That's not 50 times.

[1998] No, no, I'm sorry, 50 % I'm at 50%.

[1999] 50 % sorry.

[2000] Yeah, Jesus, gross.

[2001] Quad core.

[2002] you know double core quad core that's pretty interesting so that would be what you would need if you were doing video rendering and shit like that but for most people what the fuck different it's just matter of transferring things well even I mean have you noticed even I don't know on your laptop but I know on this one like fucking YouTube or YouTube videos or any kind of HD video still is struggling even though this is a pretty fast laptop it's still struggles it's a graphics card right it's mostly the graphics card and in just the fucking shitty flash and the video card that these new ones have video cards up to one gig or now, which is crazy.

[2003] And they switch from NVIDIA, which has been having a lot of problems with the MacBooks lately, with overheating and problems with them.

[2004] Now they switch back to AMD or whatever.

[2005] See, this is interesting to me. It's exciting, but not that exciting.

[2006] I need some new shit.

[2007] I need some next -level shit.

[2008] Just transferring gigabytes real quick, that's all good and everything like that.

[2009] But what is the next thing that a fucking computer is going to do that's really going to blow you away?

[2010] It's not going to do that.

[2011] I think if we're going more towards tablet, more towards projections.

[2012] Some phantom computing.

[2013] No, it's that fucking, um, the computer that just beat people at Jeopardy.

[2014] Yeah.

[2015] No, seriously.

[2016] Like, you know, it used to be like a computer that could play chess and beat people was a big deal.

[2017] Now everyone has a computer that can beat you at chess.

[2018] Eventually, like, the next thing you're talking about is like interactive surfaces where you tell it exactly what you want.

[2019] I'm actually more excited about this iPad 2 announcement March 2nd, which is supposing going to have cameras in the front and back pretty, so that's going to change.

[2020] the whole thing with being able to do FaceTime and watching You stream.

[2021] Now you can be able to use stream from your iPad.

[2022] This is what's really tripping.

[2023] Quantum computing.

[2024] That's the really weird shit.

[2025] Because first of all, try to wrap your head around what a quantum computer really is.

[2026] You have to really kind of understand what the idea behind quantum mechanics.

[2027] And what it basically is, this is how it's listed in Wikipedia, a device for computation that makes direct use of quantum mechanical phenomena such as superposition and entanglement.

[2028] And if you don't know what that means, superposition means that an object can be both moving and still at the same time.

[2029] I mean, when you get into the idea of quantum mechanics, you get into like, that's some weird voodoo shit, things that particles, that subatomic particles that blink in and out of existence and the idea of, you know, it being able to be affected by the user.

[2030] I mean, those are all quantum mechanical ideas.

[2031] Talk about quantum entanglement because that really is voodoo shit.

[2032] That's like that's a computer.

[2033] Quantum entanglement is, as I understand it, is the idea that if, if you're, that if you're, you know, is the idea that if, If you take two particles and put them together and then move them apart, right?

[2034] They still are somehow connected.

[2035] And you can transfer information down that line.

[2036] It's one of those things where I talk about it.

[2037] I say what I've heard said, but I don't know what it means.

[2038] You know what I mean?

[2039] Like I'm talking about superpositions and I'm talking about entanglement and I'm saying all those things.

[2040] But I mean, what it would, you know, all I'm doing is making the right noises with my mouth.

[2041] You know, my brain barely makes the connection to what the fuck that truly means.

[2042] My connection is just this rudimentary thing where I think of like two round things that have what appear to be a really long hair attaching them or something.

[2043] Like the idea that things just kind of like have some invisible or tiny relationship that just stretches apart.

[2044] But the reason I say that's voodoo or witchcraft is because it's like Rosemary's baby.

[2045] Remember the guy called and he was missing his glove?

[2046] Like one of the things witches are always trying to do is steal a little piece of you.

[2047] you get your hair and if quantum entanglement's true then that would mean that there's some connection between you and the thing that came from you that they could start shooting bad energy down that line whoa yeah yeah crazy man so all that stuff's kind of real they just didn't have the words for it well i always thought about alchemy like the idea of alchemy like what you know when people are trying to make gold out of lead and using magic and all sorts of different things like where what's what's that is that is that i mean if if if we're if we're We really do break down things as far as their elemental structure.

[2048] And we really under...

[2049] Is it possible to turn lead into gold someday?

[2050] Is someone going to be able to adjust, you know, what the molecules that differentiate between gold and lead and platinum and silver?

[2051] Is that possible?

[2052] We can do it with diamonds.

[2053] I mean, they're like that's 3D printers, Joe.

[2054] Sort of, but diamonds, that's like you're smashing something with intense pressure and creating a new thing with it.

[2055] But you're not turning something into something that's not.

[2056] It's like a natural sort of a metal.

[2057] metamorphosis, right?

[2058] Doesn't that make sense?

[2059] Yeah.

[2060] Because we know, like, what the chain reaction that causes diamonds, or the chemical reaction, the pressure and carbon and millions of years, or, you know, some crazy fucking thing that the Russians invent that makes diamonds out of nothing.

[2061] Well, have you ever heard the idea that alchemy was a code for a secret society that was trying to teach people to become enlightened through science?

[2062] Really?

[2063] Yeah, lead into gold, the idea of the transmutation of lead and to gold.

[2064] they didn't really, even though that it was a focus of alchemy, there was a deeper level, which was the idea that they're talking about the transformation of the human consciousness from going to a useless, empty robotic state to a fully realized state.

[2065] And once you go to that state, you don't care if something's gold.

[2066] You don't care about the material universe doesn't mean anything anymore.

[2067] I'd never heard that before.

[2068] I'd always heard it just described as someone trying to manipulate one form of matter to turn into something more valuable.

[2069] There's a great movie by this guy, and it's fucking trippy, dude.

[2070] You know what Joe Dorowski is?

[2071] You ever heard of him?

[2072] No. How did he say his name?

[2073] Dorowski?

[2074] Joe Dorowski?

[2075] Oh, dude.

[2076] J. O. Jodar.

[2077] I'm going to spell it wrong.

[2078] That's his last name.

[2079] Joe Doroski.

[2080] His last name?

[2081] Yeah.

[2082] Alejandro Jodarowski.

[2083] And there's a movie that he made called the Holy Mountain.

[2084] Alejandro Joderoz.

[2085] Yeah, look up Alejandro J .O. It's actually W -S -K -Y.

[2086] Oh, J -O -D -O -O.

[2087] R -O -W -S -K -Y I think John Lennon paid for the movie The Holy Mountain But like Check it out It was like At the time he had this teacher Who was telling him Well while you're making this movie Just take as much LSD as you can And it is awesome Check it out It's on YouTube Why don't you have like a part of your website That has all these movies You recommend and all this shit Because you always bring out this crazy shit I have nowhere You should totally have that I should have a little list You do.

[2088] You really should.

[2089] Throw it on your Amazon.

[2090] You should.

[2091] I'll put it up.

[2092] Yeah, well, you need to be more active with your web presence, fellow.

[2093] Well, I mean, I got the podcast and a tweet.

[2094] Yeah, but your website, you know, which would be the what me. I used to do a lot more work on it now until I've been working on this book.

[2095] I haven't been really writing.

[2096] I got to update it, man. I do.

[2097] I love your website, by the way.

[2098] I put it on a couple computers at Apple the other day.

[2099] Oh, thanks.

[2100] Home paged it.

[2101] Is it artistic terrorism?

[2102] No, it's Duncantrustle .com.

[2103] You used to have the other.

[2104] one.

[2105] Artistic terrorism got yanked by me from some fucking Russian punks.

[2106] What?

[2107] I didn't renew it.

[2108] Oh.

[2109] And then the next thing I knew I went to artistic terrorism, it's like some Russian site.

[2110] You can't get it back?

[2111] No. It's too late.

[2112] It's gone.

[2113] Really?

[2114] Is that that it works?

[2115] It's pretty easy for that to happen.

[2116] That just happens all the time.

[2117] A lot of people get like, I think it's their hosting.

[2118] So that again?

[2119] That sounds like a name the guy who drowned himself in the bathtub would come up with.

[2120] Artistic terrorism.

[2121] That was just a long time ago.

[2122] That was when I Worked at the comedy store Do you remember when you worked at the comedy store And I used to call you up We'd have long ass fucking crazy conversations While you were working there Yeah That's how we got to be friends Yeah Yeah well I used to know Duncan from Duncan hanging out there And then Duncan started working for the store And I would call up And Duncan and I would have Long fucking bizarre conversations That would last for hours While you were working Pretty much this would happen Over the phone And Duncan Here's proof that Duncan practices what he preaches.

[2123] When he was working at the comedy store, that's when the Pauly Shore reality show came around.

[2124] And everybody else went along with it, and Duncan's like, you know what?

[2125] I don't want to be a part of this, and you quit.

[2126] I quit.

[2127] Yeah, you'd have an option.

[2128] I didn't want to be on that show.

[2129] Well, man, what started happening is like, it seemed like he was talking about trying to make a show happen.

[2130] And, you know, and then the show started happening for real.

[2131] And all of a sudden, I couldn't sleep at night.

[2132] and I was grinding my teeth because the idea of having to be on this reality show and like I would wake up and my teeth would be grinding and I'd be like oh and this fucking feeling the pit of my stomach like oh no this is it this is how you're gonna because I didn't know at the time I was like fuck this what if the show takes off what if you're the you're the fucking guy who works with Polly at the comedy store you're not a comedian you're just a guy behind a desk answering the phone from Mitzie was just like the most humility It would have been the worst thing ever.

[2133] Yeah, I gave you props, man. That was cool that he did that.

[2134] Yeah, you really, you really like, you know, you had a reaction to it.

[2135] A very, very, very strong reaction, which a lot of people wouldn't because this is an opportunity for you to get on television.

[2136] I'm going to get on TV.

[2137] Ooh, I got to get on TV.

[2138] I just got to get in front of those cameras at all costs.

[2139] Do you think you could have done Fear Factor?

[2140] What do you mean?

[2141] If someone came up to you and said, hey, Duncan, we have this show.

[2142] We want you to host Fear Factor.

[2143] It's going to be this network reality.

[2144] show.

[2145] I don't think that would have been your...

[2146] You might not have done it.

[2147] You might not have done it.

[2148] You're a weird dude, man. You might have walked away from it.

[2149] Let me explain the difference between...

[2150] And by the way, because I do not want to come off like I'm some kind of like saint or self -righteous, like super, like my artistic integrity.

[2151] Yeah, it wasn't just any reality show, by the way.

[2152] You had worked there and saw the toxic environment that you were dealing with for a long time and then saw that the most toxic of all was in control of this this sort of project and it was going down all the wrong paths and you know you made it a conscious decision i needed a way the fuck out of that job it was a desk job and like you know i needed to get the fuck out and it was just like it seemed like a lot of things were aligning at the same time that gave me a way to move on instead of uh continuing in in this job that by the way it was like a job where i was tired of it the guy who's the current talent coordinator was obviously really into the idea of having that job like for him he wanted to do it whereas for me it was like it had gotten to the point where I wasn't inspired by it and it just seemed like to continue on would be the ultimate hypocrisy and would be a shitty move on every single level.

[2153] It's interesting because a lot of people would have never thought about that way they would have thought well here's an opportunity.

[2154] I mean honestly me me personally I probably would have thought about it and said well you know if I was working there at least I'll get on television This will give me an opportunity to, you know, maybe branch off and do other things, you know?

[2155] Yeah, well, you know, man, there's a, I've got a really, like, weird hang up when it comes to performance, which is that I think that people, if they're performing for something that's making money, deserve to get paid for it.

[2156] And so when I do our comedy show at the cemetery, we pay, oh, yeah, it's this Thursday, we pay our comedians, we pay everyone who performs.

[2157] And if I'm shooting something, even if it's something that I'm not getting paid for, if someone comes and is in a sketch I come up with, I pay them.

[2158] Like, I give them money because they drove out there and gave me their time, and they fucking deserve it.

[2159] Because I believe that you should be compensated for art. I think that it's one of the highest things ever.

[2160] So another thing that was a little off -putting about that show is that I was clearly going to like not, it wasn't just like they were going to film me at my desk doing my job.

[2161] job.

[2162] It was like they wanted to create a heightened reality.

[2163] You know what I mean?

[2164] They wanted you to fake shit and follow a script.

[2165] And so I brought it.

[2166] And it was a bad script.

[2167] And so I said, you know, well, what, what it?

[2168] I mean, for one, I was, I was, even then I was in a after.

[2169] I was in an actor's union.

[2170] It's like, so wait a minute.

[2171] You're not going to pay me for acting.

[2172] Don't, like, I'm, you have, you have to.

[2173] Like, I get, I know that you're making money.

[2174] Anyone who's acting and spending their time involved in this thing should be getting paid.

[2175] should get a little piece.

[2176] But you weren't going to get paid.

[2177] The producer said to me, absolutely not.

[2178] No way.

[2179] This is a documentary.

[2180] We're shooting a documentary.

[2181] You're not.

[2182] There's no...

[2183] That's fucked up.

[2184] There's no payment involved in it.

[2185] Wait a minute.

[2186] Who is the producer?

[2187] Whoever was producing the show.

[2188] They literally told you that you're going to be on the show and not get paid at all?

[2189] Yeah.

[2190] So you were going to be on TV making your salary from the comedy store that you all...

[2191] Whoa!

[2192] I didn't know that.

[2193] Whoa.

[2194] What a bunch of cunts.

[2195] I did not know that at all.

[2196] But does that surprise you giving the toxic environment that we were talking about where you knew about a comics opening for him and not getting paid and all sorts of other shit?

[2197] Yeah, you're doing it for the store, buddy.

[2198] Well, no. See, and that's the problem about that attitude, which is in so many different aspects of society, which is where the artist is given the, impression that they are lucky to be doing their art in a certain place.

[2199] Yes.

[2200] That is fucking Satanism.

[2201] That is not how it works, man. It's like, I don't care what the fucking place is.

[2202] If it's a place that's making money and generating money off the artist, the artist is at the top of the fucking pyramid.

[2203] That's just logic.

[2204] If there's a fucking guy who makes beautiful cabinets, the most beautiful cabinets in the world, that guy is not going to be like, man, I am so lucky to be in the, this workshop where they let me make these cabinets.

[2205] The comedy store is the worst case example of a place that thinks it's the star.

[2206] The place that thinks it's what's important.

[2207] Let me just say.

[2208] It's changed a lot lately.

[2209] Yeah, it has.

[2210] It's a totally different place.

[2211] I have to stick up for the place because I well, I go up there regularly and I The comics kind of took it back.

[2212] The comics kind of took it back.

[2213] But that's not just it.

[2214] Honestly, the place is Isn't Dean still the manager?

[2215] I've never see him there anymore.

[2216] The place has undergone a fucking geologic shift.

[2217] They're putting on really good acts right now.

[2218] It's fucking packed all the time.

[2219] It's got a really exciting good vibe there.

[2220] And that period of stagnation and weirdness that when you, which made you, which drove you out, that's long gone.

[2221] Really?

[2222] Yes.

[2223] So what do you think killed that?

[2224] Mencia not being around anymore?

[2225] I wouldn't.

[2226] I...

[2227] You've changed it.

[2228] Because he's still welcome to go there, right?

[2229] Mencia?

[2230] Yeah.

[2231] He can still go there and go up at the time he wants i don't i think he has to call in now where you've got like fucking i think sarah silverman just went up there she's there all the time she's there every time i go in there i'm like what the fuck it's generally just like burgeoning like you know what it seems like it seems like the management kind of took a step a couple steps back i don't they were told to or that they just kind of got bored of trying to be because now it seems like really you just see the comics like the comics are just all that's always best case scenario you know um this talk about people getting paid.

[2232] Here's another interesting topic that I wanted to bring up to you and we'll just end on this because we've been going on forever.

[2233] There's a lot of podcasts that are doing podcasts now in front of live audiences and it's a way of generating revenue for the podcast but they're not paying the people that are guests on the podcast.

[2234] You know, and one invited me and I'm not going to name any names but invited me to go and be on one of their podcasts in front of a live audience and I said, no. No one's getting paid.

[2235] You're going to, someone's going to drive an hour away and I've done this before by the way because I just you know it's kind of a you know it's an opportunity to go and be on something and you know have some fun and you know and network with all these other people that are doing these things but at a certain point time you're like wait a minute wait a minute how much do you charge there's it costs 20 bucks to get in or 30 bucks to get in and you've got 500 people in here what's going on here is this a comedy show because if it's a comedy show then it makes sense that you know you're the headliner but you have to pay the opening act you got to pay the middle act you got to pay everyone who performs forms on your show.

[2236] You know, with the bandwidth, though, that podcasts have been racking up on some people, like, what was Adam Carolla saying that he was paying up to $5 ,000 a month?

[2237] I think he said $10 ,000 a month.

[2238] I mean, that shit's real shit, man. That fucking bandwidth, podcasts are usually about 100 megabytes each.

[2239] He times that by, I don't know, a couple hundred thousand people.

[2240] That's ridiculous.

[2241] Yes, but you know what?

[2242] Guess what?

[2243] You know, how much does it benefit those comics to be on the show?

[2244] It benefits them a bit, but it definitely benefits the person who's running the podcast to have a star on their podcast.

[2245] You know, if you're going to do it in front of a live audience.

[2246] So it's a weird situation right now.

[2247] It's like it's a weird dynamic and almost feels like we need a union to step in.

[2248] It's like, I mean, how can you do that?

[2249] There's just a basic logic that should go behind.

[2250] If you're making a show, if you're producing a show, there's just a basic logic.

[2251] The basic logic is the performers are the heart of the show.

[2252] If you're making money, you have to compensate them.

[2253] That's just logic.

[2254] You're not doing them a favor by letting them perform.

[2255] Well, you are kind of a little bit because you're giving them exposure.

[2256] Think about every time you come on this show.

[2257] I mean, this show, obviously, we're not getting paid except for the sponsor.

[2258] And the sponsor basically, it's all gone.

[2259] I mean, the sponsor pays for bandwidth and Brian and a bunch of other things, and it's all gone.

[2260] But you get on a show like this, and for sure, it elevates you and makes people aware of you.

[2261] But then on the other hand, the show's way better when you're on.

[2262] like it benefits us too like that used to bother me a lot about like radio shows where like someone would say something douche about someone the person wouldn't want to do the show anymore and they would say hey didn't we help you didn't we help you out like yeah but you got you can look at it that way but you'd also look at it like you need to have funny people on your show for your show to be good he should be happy they go on it shouldn't you know but you don't the difference man this show for one I've made a fortune in fleshlights I've had so fucking many And the other thing about it is We're friends And it's like There's no sense of like You're lucky to be here This is the best venue for you though man This is the best The best opportunity The people have ever had To get a look at What's special about you and weird about you To have these long ass Two and a half plus hour conversations We're getting into weird depth about shit But people get a chance to see your personality In the way you would never get exposed to on a talk show there's no way in some seven minute clip on you know name the show you know I don't know anything Jimmy Fallon name you know whatever the show is it any of those shows what are you going to do you're going to talk about something for seven minutes you mean sitting at the desk and come up with a cup of coffee you don't know people you know the way people know us from doing the show they know you in a deep deep way that really there's no other opportunity to get this close to people this close to the workings of the mind dude I have fucking still ongoing conversations happening on Facebook with people from this podcast who like I'll tell them something crazy and then they'll email me like the most insane subversive fucking video or just like really crazy shit sometimes I can't go on Facebook if I'm too stoned because I'll start getting paranoid because there'll be some like heavy duty weird fucking shit up there yeah well you know what man this is what's going on you know this is what's going on but we are connecting with like -minded people in a way that's never been available before and it's starting a network you know it's not just a network with podcasts with the Death Squad podcast in years of the lavender hour you know it's is that but it's also a network with all these fucking people on Facebook and all these people on Twitter and these people that I met in Australia that came to the show and these people that are I've got to show this weekend or this week rather Wednesday night yeah Wednesday night I'm at the Louisville Kentucky improv that's my next gig and that's another one this is all promoted just strictly straight from Twitter.

[2263] You're going to have fun there, man. I'm sure.

[2264] We're going to have fun everywhere and that's the deal.

[2265] I mean, I have fun in Australia.

[2266] I have fun.

[2267] We're bringing these people all together and people are getting connected and there's a movement going on.

[2268] There's a movement of the mind.

[2269] This is an opportunity for people to find and connect with like -minded people about things that they thought were interesting that fucking was not available just a year ago.

[2270] It was not available two years ago or three years ago.

[2271] It's like this new, this new thought, this new hive mind that's being created.

[2272] And it's not, I'm not taking responsibility for it.

[2273] It's, it's creating itself.

[2274] It's always been things that I've always been interested.

[2275] And it's always been things that you've always been interested in.

[2276] But it's refining and altering the way that I think about the world.

[2277] Because I'll say, I'll obviously say some pretty stupid shit that I haven't thought about.

[2278] And I'll get an email or five Facebook messages correcting whatever fact.

[2279] And usually very politely.

[2280] Usually, yeah, very politely, and it's just like, oh, okay.

[2281] Oh, and then I'll find myself walking the next day, like walking my dog and just thinking about that way that my new version of the universe.

[2282] Absolutely.

[2283] And that's that's evolution.

[2284] Yes, yes.

[2285] It's ours.

[2286] It's theirs.

[2287] You know, I've said this many times that I've talked to a bunch of people that have said they don't know anybody like us.

[2288] They don't ever have the chance to have these opportunities to have these conversations with people that are near them.

[2289] But they get to sit in on these conversations and it's changing the way they think.

[2290] What changes the way I think, too?

[2291] because we're having these conversations on a really regular basis where we know we're broadcasting them.

[2292] So we know a lot of the shit we say we have to be, we have to check it, we have to correct it.

[2293] We have to do some Google searching.

[2294] We have to consider our options.

[2295] Consider the contrary argument.

[2296] And then we'll get all sorts of different cool comments and different links and different things.

[2297] Here's another thing that they're doing on my message board.

[2298] Every time there's a podcast, they'll start a thread where they analyze the podcast as it goes along.

[2299] And then they'll put links up and videos up to things that we're talking.

[2300] about it's fucking amazing man and it's all natural it's all just a natural uh occurrence it's all just it's just grown out of interest and and and and it spreads and then people contribute to it it then it gets larger and larger i mean it really is there's a hive mine it's going on bitches it's going on right now and that's how we're going to end this fucking thing can i can i say one something i've got coming up can i please no no plugs i forgot capitalism boy comedy is dead yes when is it this thursday we've got this gay this gay this gay And it's at a funeral, by the way.

[2301] It's at a funeral.

[2302] Excuse me, cemetery.

[2303] Comedy is dead.

[2304] It's at the Hollywood Forever C. Well, no. It's not a live funeral.

[2305] Occasionally someone will die on stage.

[2306] It's in a Masonic Lodge at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery.

[2307] And this...

[2308] What's the address?

[2309] 6 ,000 Santa Monica Boulevard.

[2310] And we've got Neil Hamburger.

[2311] If you haven't seen him, you have to see him.

[2312] But this guy I'm really excited about...

[2313] We have Mary Lynn Rice Cub from 24.

[2314] Yes.

[2315] And we've got...

[2316] This guy, I'm super excited.

[2317] Give her that book?

[2318] I just gave you.

[2319] It's got.

[2320] You should read that on stage.

[2321] Shut up!

[2322] There's a guy named Kay Strauss, who's the yo -yo guy who invaded all these TV stations in the Midwest.

[2323] Oh, I saw that.

[2324] And he's going to be performing on the show.

[2325] Well, explain that real quick.

[2326] This would be the end.

[2327] Because this guy, he went on these shows and pretended that he knows how to do the yo -yo for kids.

[2328] He did a character on these morning shows.

[2329] He apparently, you could just send them a letter and say, I'm traveling through schools, doing environmental lessons.

[2330] and using yo -yo's to do it.

[2331] And it kind of seems like a nice, feel -good story.

[2332] And so they invite him in.

[2333] He's wearing this ridiculous outfit.

[2334] He's a character actor on the level with like when Kaufman would do his stuff.

[2335] He's that fucking good.

[2336] And he's this addled guy who comes on stage with a yo -yo and doesn't really get to the yo -yo.

[2337] They finally end up having to ask him to do it.

[2338] And every time they ask him to do it, something off.

[2339] goes wrong the yo -yo breaks he can't yo -yo that's the thing he's terribly yo -yoing and he just leaves them hanging every well it's awkward and they want to like make him feel better but he's like each like he like he's clearly like out of it you just it's all on youtube what's his name again hey strass s t -r -a -s -s -s -s the yo -yo -guy just look up case dross like case dress the letter K?

[2340] The letter K and then S -T -R -A -U -S -S.

[2341] S -T -R -A -U -S -S.

[2342] And what is he going to do at your show?

[2343] He's got a show based around, the character is going to, his character will be there and he does a yo -yo show for everybody.

[2344] So it's basically the same thing.

[2345] That's like, kind of.

[2346] Well, you don't know, right?

[2347] Well, no, I saw him do it.

[2348] Has he been doing stand -up or is he just doing this kind of weird performance art thing?

[2349] Performance art. How long has been doing it?

[2350] He's obviously been doing some form of character comedy for a while because he's too good at it to not have fucking practiced or he could be crazy right he's not he's a super nice guy he's like a really cool is he on drugs no is he on Charlie Sheen do you want to hear a little bit of him what case drops nah now we're done this fucking thing's been gone for three hours now thank you Duncan Trussell for coming on you're the man you're always no I shouldn't even say you're the man you're fascinating fascinating human being one of my best friends and I'm honored that you know you can be my friend and come on the podcast You're cool as fuck And it's awesome having you on here And Lavender Hour You can download off iTunes And you guys have a website Lavender Hour .com And it's him and Natasha Legerro Legerro And it's a very, very funny podcast Thank you to the Flashlight For sponsoring the show If you go to Joe Rogan .net And click the link And enter in the code name Rogan You get 15 % off Louisville Improv I don't know if there's tickets still available There wasn't very many left But it's this Wednesday night with me and my man Tom Segora Shit's jumping off and then we'll be back at we'll be back at Sal's Comedy Hole next Wednesday and we'll also have a couple podcasts next week I got a couple of good things cooking so Brian Callen will be on this Friday so that's that'll be the next one and I'll also put up the podcast on a plane with Ari Shafir.

[2351] All right, that's it bitches that's the end of this fantastic and listen to our Stevo podcast over at the Death Squad and our blackout.

[2352] Yeah, don't listen to the blackout one.

[2353] UFC blackout and the super blackout.

[2354] Yeah.

[2355] The UFC blackout may be.

[2356] That's super blackout one.

[2357] I'm going to step in and intervene.

[2358] Joe, you got to listen to it at least before you judge it.

[2359] It's hilarious.

[2360] He gets drunk with crazy broads and like literally they get hammered and slobber over each other and threatened to kill each other.

[2361] Why would anyone want to watch that?

[2362] All right, folks.

[2363] Well, have you got nothing to do?

[2364] Check it out.

[2365] All right, bitches.

[2366] We will see you soon on Friday and I'll see you crazy freaks and Louisville.

[2367] kentucky and maybe i could talk you out of escaping creating creating something better in louisville bye maybe a better van okay all right thank you i'm on charlie sheen