#788 - Brendan Schaub

[0] bum bum bum bum bum he's double shooting me that means we're live with the keto kid the keto kid i've been doing for six days he's the keto kid now that's your new nickname the keto kid that's hilarious the keto kid i'm just happy you're doing it man you know before we get into the ufc stuff brenden and i were talking before this about uh he he started the no sugar diet.

[1] He went straight keto.

[2] Which is crazy for me. Yeah, for you, dude.

[3] I was like, there's no way he's ever going to do this.

[4] You're so addicted to candy.

[5] I was the straight candy, man. Like you and Ari Shafir, everything.

[6] Ari Shafir is probably the worst I've ever seen.

[7] Really?

[8] Yeah.

[9] He'll take a day off candy and he'll just eat like pasta and bread all day, like giving his body candy and some other form.

[10] Damn.

[11] For me, I think it was just like, I've tried all these diets and I've never got the results I've wanted to and then as soon as I started doing this everyone's like be careful man the cravings you have headaches I haven't had shit um matter of fact I work out more was it hard at all over the first couple of days no that's interesting not at all hmm not at all well you know if you talk to that mark sisson guy he would probably say that your body just adapts really well to it that's what I would probably imagine but I think like to to be sure you're even in a state of ketosis you got to measure your blood But it's going to be annoying for you, just like it was annoying for my...

[12] I kind of have to find out where's the right place to stab yourself because the fingertips weren't working for me. It's like the little insulin when you check your blood sugar?

[13] Yeah, they weren't getting through my fingertips.

[14] You have some thick -ass fingers.

[15] Thick -ass fingers.

[16] So all those kettle -houses.

[17] Caluses, son.

[18] I got some serious calluses up in here.

[19] I hear you.

[20] Over the last couple years...

[21] I think most guys doing their pinky.

[22] My dad's diabetic because I see him doing the pinky all the time.

[23] He has some big old banana fingers.

[24] Somebody sent me one, though, and they said there's a legit...

[25] one now for your breath that the ones for the breath used to suck but now they have one that's legit and it shows what how what level of ketogenic yeah yeah yeah ketosis really I have to look into that I don't even remember who said dude I don't give a fuck I just feel good well you know I'm saying I just feel good I'm just can keep doing it dude you're gonna feel this is the crazy thing you're gonna feel this way and this is how you feel now like you know this thing in the middle of the day where you get tired that's gonna go away and I got that when I went I went to Mexico when on vacation had a great old time but i said fuck it man i'm in mexico i'm on vacation i'm gonna go off my diet i'm gonna have some fucking burritos you know never mad at tortillas why not i'm getting in there i had tacos i had the old thing and then i said fuck it while i'm doing that i might as well get dessert dude i felt like diggedy dog shit when you haven't done that the next day you did no then right away crash yeah right away i felt terrible after eating the cake and then later in the day I mean I was just I could barely stay conscious I can't you can't do that anymore yeah I think my thing was is I've always wanted to do it but I never really had a like a strict reason to do it like something that just put it put me over to finally make the decision to do it and I was thinking about how much you do because I have a lot of stuff going on my dude I'm getting tired man I'm not I'm not doing that well like I could be doing better just mentally more clear and I'm working out doing all stuff.

[26] And you and I've been talking about it for a while and I was like, fuck, I might as well try it, man, because coffee really does nothing to me anymore.

[27] I could drink six cappuccino before I go to bed and sleep, just fine, just fine.

[28] You should probably never get into REM sleep at all.

[29] That's what happens.

[30] So I'm like, I got to do something and do it.

[31] It's been great.

[32] Wow.

[33] That's amazing.

[34] Good for you.

[35] It gets easy.

[36] It gets easy because after a while you just look at food is like, oh, well, this is what I'm supposed to be eating.

[37] That other stuff isn't food.

[38] You know, like you don't look at a candy bar like, oh, that would be good right now.

[39] That's what's crazy to me. I'm not like, like, you were talking about how you have those ketogenic, like, Recy PCs or whatever.

[40] I don't even want to try that bullshit.

[41] Yeah, these are, I should give them a shout out.

[42] Quest Labs sent us a bunch of stuff when they found out that we were.

[43] And Quest are great.

[44] I know those guys.

[45] They're great.

[46] But, like, even, like, sweets or something that simulate sweets, I don't want that.

[47] It's weird, man. But this stuff's good.

[48] Like, they have crackers.

[49] You can eat these crackers.

[50] These are, like, keto crackers.

[51] They're saltines.

[52] I fucking hate crackers now.

[53] I'm against carbs in any form.

[54] Those aren't really carbs.

[55] I know.

[56] What the fuck they are?

[57] I don't like the way they look anymore, Joe.

[58] Yeah, son.

[59] Look at you.

[60] You're a new man. I know, man. I feel good.

[61] Paying no week later, I'm just 300 pounds full of sugar.

[62] This is some stuff I've been taken to.

[63] It's called Kigenics and it's exogenous ketones.

[64] These are, I don't know if that guy, Dom D. Augustino had something to do with this.

[65] Somebody told me, I need to research it further.

[66] But these are exogenous ketones.

[67] this and you mix that with water and it puts you in a state of ketosis really rapidly like within an hour 12 carbs though yeah but it's okay for the whole day I mean how again I don't need anything all I have some nuts in my car covered in cinnamon I'll snack on those all day be just fine look never hungry you're very dedicated something's going on right I got nuts in my cars I have nuts what kind like macadamia almonds oh almonds are almonds man with just cinnamon on top you know what I I eat those pistachios that are already shelled.

[68] Oh, so you got to crack the shell open?

[69] No, they're already shelled.

[70] Oh, you're saying, oh, they're not shelled?

[71] Exactly.

[72] No, well, the shell, shelled meaning the shells were removed.

[73] Oh, word.

[74] Yeah.

[75] Is that the correct term?

[76] Sheld?

[77] Sheld.

[78] Well, shouldn't, okay.

[79] Yeah, like, I mean, what would be a good comparison.

[80] No, I don't, I don't believe so.

[81] I think they say shelled, meaning that they have been removed from the shell.

[82] If someone goes, hey, you want some shelled.

[83] Maybe I'm wrong.

[84] Maybe it is unshelled.

[85] If you want some shelled nuts, I'd say, well, is there anything that can unshelled them?

[86] Well, you're saying it makes total sense.

[87] I know.

[88] Well, whatever it is, I buy them in the bag with no shells.

[89] Let me just put it that way.

[90] I don't like that.

[91] It's a big giant -ass bag, and I just force feed up.

[92] I like the work.

[93] It's like with sunflower seeds.

[94] I don't like just regular sunflower seeds.

[95] I got to have the shell.

[96] I like the work.

[97] A lot of people do that, man. Like, if you just got a plate of crab meat, fuck that noise.

[98] I want the legs to crack open.

[99] I see.

[100] Is that weird?

[101] No, no. There's merit to that.

[102] I don't know.

[103] I get it.

[104] I had some regular pistachios the other day, and I had to work for them.

[105] It's rewarding.

[106] Yeah.

[107] And they were kind of like flavorful in the outside.

[108] I enjoyed it.

[109] Yeah, I like sucking on the shelves.

[110] But sometimes I just like to pour a coffee cup full of pistachios and just eat that shit while I watch TV.

[111] See, I'll do a mix, little macadamia nuts, cashews, all unsalted.

[112] I hate salt.

[113] Dude, you're so healthy now.

[114] What's going on?

[115] I don't know what the fuck's going on.

[116] I don't know what the fuck's going on.

[117] I'm like this fucking new fucking keto.

[118] It's weird, man. In the keto kid, that made me fucking...

[119] Are you getting a lot of vegetables in, too?

[120] Yeah, tons of veggies.

[121] You know what my big thing is?

[122] I probably eat...

[123] I've ate it every night for dinner since I've been on the diet is I do, like, a shredded lettuce cabbage mix that I saute and I put buffalo meat in it.

[124] And then I'll put, like, yeah, hot sauce on top of that.

[125] Every night, that's what I have for dinner.

[126] I know.

[127] I look forward to it, too.

[128] Wow.

[129] It's so weird.

[130] Yeah, weight is going to melt off your body, too.

[131] The first few pounds that you lose, obviously I'm not a doctor, are supposed to be just your body adjusting to this new lower inflammation diet.

[132] You don't have as much inflammation, you know, as much water storage in your body.

[133] Yeah.

[134] And you just get rid of some of that.

[135] And then your body, as it starts burning off fat, one of the coolest things is you don't get those crazy hunger cravings either.

[136] It's a completely different kind of hunger.

[137] Well, plus it lasts longer, right?

[138] Because you're eating these fats, so your body's not spike in insulin, right?

[139] It's like more of a steady pace.

[140] And the spike in insulin is fucking real, man. Because like I told you, I cheated in Mexico, and then I cheated one other time.

[141] I just said, fucking, I want a cheeseburger and a milkshake from this, like, old -timey diner.

[142] So American.

[143] I was so dead afterwards.

[144] It was like somebody poisoned to me. I mean, it was so dramatic, man. Like, no, bitch.

[145] No, I really did feel like I was having the hardest time getting up off the couch.

[146] I was like, God, I just couldn't breathe.

[147] It was like my body had just shut down to process all this bullshit.

[148] Yeah, it's like, what the fuck is this?

[149] I think the only thing that took me a while to get used to was so much MCT oil.

[150] Yeah, you got to be careful with that, though.

[151] I text you yesterday.

[152] I was running, man, I took a bunch of this new MCT oil.

[153] I swear to God, I was like, it's Venice.

[154] I might as well just shit my pants right here.

[155] Like, no one's going to give a fuck.

[156] I will just shit everywhere.

[157] Yeah, there's a tipping point with MCT oil where it just opens a flip -case to your booty hole.

[158] Yeah, there's no, like, there's no, like, third gear.

[159] It's like first or fucking six -gear, man. And where is it?

[160] Is it like two tablespoons?

[161] I'm trying to figure it out.

[162] Is it like three tablespoons?

[163] You're gone.

[164] That shit is the perfect storm for explosive dough.

[165] Yeah, if you want to clean out the pipes, you don't need a colonic.

[166] But it's not like, I got to take a shit.

[167] It's like, it's coming.

[168] You better fucking figure it out.

[169] You're squeezing your.

[170] butt up and you're tensing up your innards.

[171] You're trying to like clamp it down from the inside.

[172] I have to stop running.

[173] I was like, I better think, I better come up a game plan.

[174] My mouth started watering.

[175] Oh, shit.

[176] And there's that battle that you play.

[177] It's very similar to the battle when you try not to come.

[178] You know, the battle when you try not to come, you just squeeze your dick of your spikas!

[179] Jesus!

[180] It's very similar to that.

[181] I don't want to shit my pants.

[182] You have willpower.

[183] Because there's some weak people in the world that just shit their pants more than they You can't be my friend.

[184] If you just give up and shit your pants, lose my number.

[185] I just don't want to do.

[186] It hurts to keep my butt tight.

[187] Oh, blah.

[188] You just got no willpower, man. Yeah, but then I've shit my pants before, too.

[189] It's like, here's a deal.

[190] It's okay to tap out.

[191] Just don't tap out like a bitch.

[192] No, at least put up a fight.

[193] It's right if you're going to lose the fight.

[194] Be actually in a...

[195] in a position where you have to tap don't just tap because you're uncomfortable and you're sweating and it's just you have no other options yeah do it didn't call in light you one time said he shit his pants and then showed up with regular pants well that's one lie you just can't do he said that he couldn't make it to the show at the ice house because he shit his pants and I said what are you talking about he goes I shit my pants I can't come and I said Brian these people came to see you they're here to see you and he goes what should I do I go go to a fucking bathroom at a gas station take your fucking pants off throw them in the sink clean the shit out of your pants ring them out and then get over here with wet pants on in a story how old is he at this time oh like a year ago this is a year ago what should I do you got to show up man you got to show up like people don't want to smell shit on you so if you just get to the bathroom for five minutes you could fix all that.

[196] It's going to take a little work and you're going to wear wet pants.

[197] But that's what you have to do.

[198] Better than doo -doo pants.

[199] People paid.

[200] They're Brian Callan fans.

[201] Yeah, they don't do what fuck if you have doo -doo hanging out your pants?

[202] Tell some jokes.

[203] So he shows up 10 minutes later.

[204] His pants are dry.

[205] And I go, what happened?

[206] And he said, oh, I had a pair of pants in my trunk.

[207] The worst lie of all times.

[208] You had a pair of pants of your trunk.

[209] I don't know what.

[210] I didn't even want to ask what was really going on.

[211] You came and get into it.

[212] If you shit your pants as a grown man, I mean, it ain't a simple procedure.

[213] There's some steps you got to take.

[214] Maybe that's the next shirt is I had another pair of pants in my trunk.

[215] Who carries pants in their trunk?

[216] Have you ever had a pair of pants in your trunk that you didn't know about?

[217] Never.

[218] Like you shit your pants and you go, what is the odds?

[219] The pants are in my trunk?

[220] Never.

[221] I guess when I'm older I might.

[222] I might have a baseball hat in there.

[223] And I can cover my balls.

[224] I love that story.

[225] Out of all the lies, shitting your pants?

[226] I don't know if it was a lie.

[227] I'm going to need some shits though.

[228] I'm going to need to see some stuff.

[229] I do not know if it was a lie, but God damn he smelled so normal.

[230] I mean, I would have just, only count it's the best.

[231] It's the only he could do that.

[232] How can you shit all over your pants and just find new pants?

[233] Would you throw your pants away?

[234] If it's like a clean log, though, you could figure it out.

[235] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[236] If you look, felt it coming out, you're like, oh, okay, we see what we got going on here.

[237] This is a blockbuster.

[238] This is a fucking lumber roll.

[239] This is one of them submarines.

[240] We'll figure it out.

[241] This is one of them lumber rolls.

[242] they have those trucks that go down on those gigantic cedar logs like oh boy here we go but then there's ones you're like oh my god this is 100 % diarrhea oh that MCT oil there's no there's no guessing that shit is you will spray paint your pants brown but you there's a feeling it's like your butt has different levels of sensitivity your butt knows when you're gonna blow out a hard like a beefy pot roast shit you know one of them thick dried out shits that's very dense your butt knows your butt's like look we're eventually going to have to sit down here and there's going to be a big one so I want you to get a magazine get your mind right so make sure your fucking iPhone starts up but then there's the fire drill then there's the fucking fire drill and that's what I had in Venice yesterday but you know before you see you're not even you can't see your asshole even if you had to unless you're an acrobat There's no way to even see your asshole without a mirror.

[243] MCTO, there's like, it's like a 10 second warning.

[244] Like, oh, shit.

[245] Right, but you know what I'm saying?

[246] Like, there's a certain level of sensitivity.

[247] Oh, for sure.

[248] If you had to explain that, if you had to explain the feeling of what is it like when you have to take a shit, you'd be like, well, there's different kinds of feelings when you have to take a shit.

[249] There's like, eventually I'm going to have to take a shit.

[250] There's a, oh, God, oh, boy, I got, this is going to be a whopper, but it's a shit.

[251] And then there's, oh, oh, you're talking about that terrorist level five shit.

[252] There's that diarrhea feeling, like, there's signals in your body that we always think of, we put it in like one classification.

[253] But they're radically different feelings.

[254] It's complicated.

[255] It's fucking, it is.

[256] If you break it down, it's complicated.

[257] The diarrhea feeling is super complicated.

[258] It's like, hello, oh, how do I know?

[259] How do I know that this is about to come flying out of me?

[260] My body starts sweating too.

[261] Brace yourself, son.

[262] You're about to get active.

[263] Yeah.

[264] And some foods, too.

[265] Some foods are just, like sometimes spicy food, for whatever reason, just break stuff loose off the walls.

[266] And there's a goddamn afflatch.

[267] A fucking mudslice.

[268] Fucking broken fire hydrant coming out of your asshole.

[269] It is complicated, though.

[270] We can do a podcast for three hours straight on shit.

[271] Yeah.

[272] Yeah, man. It's hilarious.

[273] It's very important.

[274] It's very important.

[275] It's so hilarious.

[276] So easy on the MCT oil kids Yeah Brace yourself Moral to our story Yeah You're supposed to have like At the most Like a couple of tablespoons Yeah don't squirt that shit Drink in your mouth It's not gonna kill you But you'll You know You will shit your parents Yeah you'll piss out of your asshole Straight up The big combination If you really want to clean the pipes Is those Hulk load shakes Cale shakes that I make With MCT oil in it Preach Whoa I started adding coconut oil Coconut oil is nice I scoop it out A couple of You know Extra virgin or whatever the fuck it is Get a nice couple of tablespoons Throw it in there But then I decided to go hard And go hard in the paint Go MCT oil And I forget the number That I use Four or five tablespoons You're fucked up Yeah I use four or five tablespoons for one One of those blenders There's a problem How many What do you say that is about 16 ounce, no, 20 ounces maybe.

[277] So five scoops of MCT oil.

[278] I mean, what were you thinking?

[279] I don't know.

[280] I want to see what happens.

[281] Usually, usually I'm always down for more means better, you know?

[282] I didn't know back then.

[283] When I first started shitting myself.

[284] See, I knew.

[285] Coming close to shitting myself at least.

[286] I knew and I still fucking do it.

[287] I didn't know it was MCT oil that was doing it.

[288] I thought it was just the intense amount of fiber from the hemp shakes or from the, um, The vegetables.

[289] All the, you know, I mean, there's cucumber in there, carrots and there, or celery, rather, and ginger and garlic and usually, like, a piece of fruit, like an apple or something like that.

[290] Like, there's so much fiber.

[291] I thought it was just blowing everything out, but there's a big difference between.

[292] No. When I had the extra MC2, it's like, it's like a turbo.

[293] What is it doing?

[294] Is it lubing everything up?

[295] Why is that?

[296] It just gets in there and wreaks havoc.

[297] It just gets in there and fucking.

[298] But why does it make it?

[299] it all come out as liquid like what is happening it's complicated it's so complicated how the fuck does that work but it seems like it would be a good thing like it would be uncomfortable but like something like that would clean you out i think it's a good thing probably i feel like it i hope so yeah i hope so too anyway good source of healthy facts just take it easy fucks yeah easy man more's not better yeah so uh big ufc this weekend that's one of the reason what we sat down here God, we start talking about shit in our pants.

[300] You're talking about shitty for 25 minutes.

[301] Sorry, man. We can talk about whatever, though.

[302] No, a big UFC this weekend, but I was talking to you through text.

[303] I feel like no one's really talking about U .S .C. 197 because the Conner, straight up, the Conner.

[304] That's all I'll refer to him now, the Conner.

[305] The two best pound -for -pound fighters in the world universally heralded two best pound -for -pound friends.

[306] John Jones and Demetrious Mighty Mouse Johnson fighting on a card this weekend, and no one's talking about.

[307] Anthony Pettis is on that bitch.

[308] And Anthony Barboza.

[309] And Barboza.

[310] Yeah.

[311] But John Jones, in my opinion, he's number two.

[312] Not that he's not, not, not that he's not awesome.

[313] I just go off technique.

[314] I think that Demetri's Johnson is on another level.

[315] I think he has to be on another level because he's so small.

[316] But I think what John Jones does and his risk of losing is so much higher than Mighty Mouses, and he's destroying dudes.

[317] Yep.

[318] And not training.

[319] And high as fuck.

[320] Let's toss that on top of it.

[321] You got good points.

[322] there, but just because you didn't train, it doesn't make your performances more valid.

[323] Like, because you beat Daniel Cormier and you did Coke three weeks before, you still have the same fight with Daniel Cormier.

[324] Just because you went five rounds with Alexander Gustafson and struggled because you didn't train, you still struggled.

[325] So although I agree that John Jones at his best is the motherfucker.

[326] I mean, John Jones at his best, when he choked out Leota Machita, when he just dropped him and walked away, like an assassin.

[327] Yeah, I don't think it's a contest because I think John, the way he's being guys, he's facing tougher competition.

[328] You could argue that.

[329] And his level, his margin of air is so much smaller.

[330] Like, let's say DJ has one off night and someone lands a big, like, right hand on him, he'll figure it out and that right hand's not going to land again.

[331] If John Jones has an off night, even OSP, and OSP lands a huge left hook, it's over, son.

[332] It's true.

[333] Very good points.

[334] These are very good points.

[335] And think about the legends he's being.

[336] Eat.

[337] Mighty Mouse, you know Mighty Mouse's next fight if he gets past Sohudo?

[338] He's fighting the winner of the ultimate fighter.

[339] That's what the fuck we got a result to.

[340] There's just no one for him to fight.

[341] Wouldn't he fight Benavides?

[342] No. No. His next fight, they said if he wins his fight, he's going to fight the winner of the ultimate fighter.

[343] That sounds crazy.

[344] But that's where...

[345] So that's...

[346] You know, that's who says people, tiny people.

[347] People don't look at those little tiny guys.

[348] I know.

[349] It sucks, man. Because he's so talented.

[350] So good.

[351] I actually think it's better for the sport.

[352] I love Demetrius Johnson.

[353] I love DJ.

[354] I absolutely love him.

[355] I think he's great.

[356] I think he's better for the sport of Suhuda wins.

[357] What?

[358] Yeah.

[359] Why do you say that?

[360] Because of his upbringing, his background, Olympic gold medalists, didn't go to college, just pursued the Olympics straight out of high school and won gold, the youngest ever to win gold.

[361] You know, his Mexican roots, I think the UFC could use more of that.

[362] DJ needs a nemesis.

[363] Like Aldo had McGregor, right?

[364] Aldo's never been bigger now.

[365] I think DJ needs a nemesis.

[366] And if he beats him, we don't have one.

[367] He fights the fucking ultimate fighter winner.

[368] It's true.

[369] He beats him barely, you know.

[370] Who knows?

[371] But even then.

[372] Look, Suhudo's not a joke.

[373] He's the best wrestler in MMA today.

[374] I mean, arguably, that's competing in the 125 -pound division.

[375] Who's ever had more wrestling accomplishments?

[376] He's an Olympic gold medalist.

[377] Gold medalist.

[378] I mean, that's the beast of the beasts.

[379] So you know he's a winner.

[380] He's just a straight winner.

[381] The real question is, is that cut to 125 too brutal?

[382] He's looked good in his fights.

[383] The scary thing to me, But would he look better if he didn't cut?

[384] I always think guys would.

[385] I always think they would.

[386] A guy like him, I wonder.

[387] I'm like, I wonder if he's got that wrestler's mentality to always be the biggest guy.

[388] Look what he did cutting that weight, though.

[389] Like, he has it down to a science.

[390] So usually the wrestlers are a beast at it.

[391] Like DC, amazing.

[392] Hendo amazing.

[393] You're talking about guys who never really missed weight.

[394] Well, how about Rumble back when he used to go down from like 200 plus?

[395] That shit was just unhealthy.

[396] You get to 170.

[397] It was insane.

[398] Just unhealthy.

[399] I can't believe no one was like, God, I feel like it's a bad idea.

[400] You might die.

[401] And then Dada was like, nah, I got this.

[402] Dead.

[403] Dada died.

[404] That's why you can't have that shit.

[405] But they said Dada only had to lose like three pounds the week of the fight.

[406] Still, though.

[407] I'm just saying.

[408] You better know your weight cuts.

[409] Yeah, I think there was a lot of other issues going on there physically.

[410] We just wasn't prepared for that.

[411] But there's a big difference between him and a guy like Sohudo.

[412] I'm just being silly.

[413] I know.

[414] Sehudo's the fucking best in the business.

[415] He's a master at weight cutting.

[416] You just look at his wins, all submission, I mean, all decisions, his level of competition.

[417] DJ, I think he's number two pound for pound best.

[418] Good luck, man. And DJ's a motherfucker.

[419] He's an artist, man. He's my favorite guy to watch because you just don't get to hit him.

[420] You don't get to.

[421] It's not how it works.

[422] Well, how it works is he's going to be moving.

[423] You're going to be reacting.

[424] You're going to think he's going to go left.

[425] He's going to go right.

[426] He's going to punch you in the face while he's doing it.

[427] He's going to circle out, leg kick you on the way out, and then enter when you think he's going to exit, go to the right when you think he's going to go to the and constantly switch between takedowns and punches and he gets you up against the cage and he drops down for doubles and comes up with an elbow and it's all creative and it's all flowing together and there's no one with better skills than him but I don't think that makes him the best fighter it's a good point but I also think if I'm DJ I'm gonna sit there and God how how the fuck can I become a draw I'm tiny people don't give a fuck about tiny people let's see the one guy who's beat me Dominic Cruz is a massive star I need to go up and wait and fight Dominic Cruz.

[428] That's the fight.

[429] Well, that's not a bad fight.

[430] He should grab the mic after he beat Sohudo and go, Dominic, you're the last guy to beat me, especially in the UFC before that.

[431] It was a homeboy, the freaking Irish cat.

[432] I forget his name.

[433] Anyways, he just needs to get on the mic and go, yo, the last guy to beat me. Brad Pickett?

[434] Picket.

[435] Yeah, exactly.

[436] Picket, beat him in decision.

[437] English guy.

[438] I knew you're talking about.

[439] Yeah, my bad.

[440] My bad.

[441] Love that guy.

[442] My bad.

[443] But he just needs to get on the mic and create some sort of hype.

[444] Like even the Suhudo thing to the common fan They're like, what?

[445] These are two tiny dudes It's hard But to stay at 125 It ain't happening, man You're not gonna become mainstream You're not gonna make a lot of money Well, I wonder though Well, maybe you're right Because if Sohudo beat him Then maybe he can have a lot of money Yeah, then we've got a little bit of drama Yeah Well, we'll see It's not outside the realm of possibility So he's the best thing for him Sohudo beats him And talk some shit It's kind of back and forth fight And then they fight again We'll watch that three match.

[446] Or, let's say you just destroy Sehuda.

[447] Sohudo, don't wait for the ultimate fighter winner.

[448] We don't give a fuck about those small ones with an ultimate fighter.

[449] Get it on the mic, call out Dominic Cruz, son.

[450] I wanted to see Sehudo versus someone like Benavides.

[451] Me too.

[452] I wanted to see Sehudo versus like a real veteran.

[453] But then if, let's say he fights Benavides and Benavides beats them, you want Benavides Mighty Mouse two?

[454] Oh, three.

[455] Three?

[456] You do.

[457] I do.

[458] Yeah.

[459] I get it.

[460] You do.

[461] Listen.

[462] Everyone else does not.

[463] And Benavita's is, I love that, dude.

[464] Well, there's two ways of looking at it.

[465] As a excitement junkie and as a fan of the art form.

[466] For me, as a fan of the art form, I want to see DJ with as many different tests as possible.

[467] Because I'm a big fan of technique and movement.

[468] And I think he's the highest expression of technique and movement today.

[469] I agree.

[470] Because it's his combinations the way he stifled Dodson.

[471] You don't stifle Dodson.

[472] Dodson's a hurricane.

[473] You've got cows flying around your yard You know the fucking satellite dish You'll take your head off as it comes off the roof He's so fast How about with Bagotinoff when he fought him?

[474] Bagotinoff, he out -cardiote him He was on EPO He was on EPO And they're 125 pounds And he out -caratioed him What the fuck Bagotinoff's got that style That's that Russian style That sometimes works But sometimes doesn't That fucking those guys They can see the shots They get tense And they And every punch is it works at heavier It works at heavier ways It can work Ibaghitino fucked a lot of people up He did till he met a motherfucker Yeah But I just think Like you said There's from a purest point It's like Yeah Mighty Mouse Keep doing your thing As a guy looking out What's best for him Because he's gonna fight Right He's just keep fighting Yeah How can we make the most money And get you the most fame And the best competition Dominic Cruz Mm -hmm I agree with you It's the best Best matchup In that they're virtually identical sidewise and size wise it's only 10 pounds off yeah man and they're both i'm talking about world champions the highest level you want to talk about a super fight we're not that far off 10 pounds at 125 though it's actually quite a bit that is a lot of weight because if it was 100 pounds it would be 10 there's a lot of weight but they could figure it out you know what I'm saying like you could risk that for that big of a payday well or mighty mouse has fought at that weight before and if he just did it if they gave him like six months you give him six months so he can do some squats or deadlifts or whatever and put on some actual The issue is his cruise, right?

[475] So Cruz has your eye.

[476] Let's say he beat your eye.

[477] If we go with the Vegas odds, he beat your eye, but then he has T .J. Well, I think T .J. is going to go with Dodson.

[478] If I had a guess, like what the big fight is at 135, rematch between T .J. and Dotson, because that was the finals of the ultimate fighter.

[479] 100%.

[480] And both guys are light years past where they were then.

[481] I would like to see how Dotson deals with the champion T .J. I mean, because T .J. lost a razor close decision to Dominic, right?

[482] Agreed?

[483] Very fucking close.

[484] I actually had TJ winning.

[485] Very fucking close fight.

[486] And, you know, Dominic Cruz is a master.

[487] I mean, he is this a master.

[488] Straight master.

[489] Watching him move and his footwork inside the octagon and the way he mixes things up, be like, this fucking kid has been out essentially for four years, except for one fight.

[490] Nuts.

[491] Crazy.

[492] Not one fight was like a minute, something?

[493] Yeah, he just stormed Mitsugaki.

[494] So you're watching this guy move around.

[495] I mean, this is a guy who hasn't performed under the pressure of the cameras for all time and he still puts on this masterful performance he has the best brain in m m m that i've ever been as a wizard as far as him talking but i think so but you have to so you got to keep tj active you have to keep dominic active but dodson and and tj is a monster it's a motherfucker for sure it's great fight but for for the guy who's going to be left out and fighting a no -nameer ultimate fighter winners dj yeah that's weird are you sure is that we're definitely what's going to happen i'm almost We should always Google these things.

[496] We should.

[497] By the way, if we're arguing this fake point, let's find out if DeVich's Mighty Mouse Johnson will one day fight the winner of the ultimate fight.

[498] Maybe I'm just full of MCT or I'm making shit up.

[499] But it would be a weird thing to make up.

[500] Usually I'm right on this stuff.

[501] I feel like he does fight the next.

[502] It was vaguely familiar when you said it.

[503] Like, I vaguely was like, is that right?

[504] I'm almost positive.

[505] I believe you.

[506] I believe you.

[507] We'll find out.

[508] You got it?

[509] Is it, James?

[510] Demetius Johnson isn't scared of tough 24 winner's title shot I just don't care wow so yeah so the winner gets that title shot yeah that seems crazy like I get it when you do that with girls because there's seven of them yeah but at with these guys is there any way we can help DJ out anymore you're he fucked him on the Xbox deal is there any way we can do something with them man yeah oh I think he's making money off a twitch is he making money for Twitch oh yeah he does play video games on there well he's a legit gamer like super gamer he's a he's a addicted to gaming.

[511] I just don't think he gets the credit he deserves.

[512] I tell every young fighter, you want to, you want to emulate someone?

[513] Emulate this guy.

[514] You better be tiny, though.

[515] Yeah, you got to be tiny, but you can emulate a version of it at 170.

[516] You could emulate a version of what he's doing at 170.

[517] Yeah, but if freaking the keto kid here is 17 at 6 -4, 210 pounds, you can't be like, watch Mighty Mouse.

[518] I'm like, ah, fuck.

[519] You can't, but you can emulate a version of it, like Rico Verhoeven.

[520] Riko Verhoeven is very technical, has incredible cardio.

[521] And he's a fantastic kickboxer, and he's a big motherfucker.

[522] He's right in MMA now.

[523] Yes, he is.

[524] Good luck with that.

[525] Good luck with all that.

[526] That's why he's fighting him.

[527] Jesus Christ.

[528] And he's trained at AKA.

[529] Oh, fucking Christ.

[530] Well, the only problem with those guys is in the beginning of their career, they're susceptible to punches during, like, take down exchanges.

[531] Like, remember when Randomman knocked out Crow Cop?

[532] Do I ever?

[533] Woo!

[534] Because Crow Cop was looking for the shot.

[535] True.

[536] And Randomen came at him with the punch and just leapt at him and cracked them.

[537] Well, they can't unleash their hands.

[538] and the gloves are so small, like, you know, in kickbox, he can get away with a little more or even glory, whatever.

[539] But, like, your boy, Pat Schilling, right?

[540] Like, he should be murk in some of these dudes.

[541] Joe Schilling, you mean?

[542] Joe Schillen, sorry.

[543] Yeah, Pat Schilling.

[544] I was like, who's his pat fellow?

[545] Yeah, but Joe Schilling, like, his stand -ups, some of the best in the world.

[546] Yeah.

[547] You see him fight M .A. It's not the, he can't fight the same.

[548] He's worried about the takedown.

[549] Yes, and so he's open to knockouts.

[550] So you'll see him get knocked out by a guy where like, dude, if there was no takedowns, he would Fuck you up.

[551] Yeah, 100%.

[552] I feel like yelling at another crowd.

[553] Yeah.

[554] Well, he's only doing that now, I think.

[555] He's going straight kickboxing now.

[556] It's smart, man. Quit messing with MM.

[557] He's in his 30s, too.

[558] You're in your 30s.

[559] The game, and it's full of grapplers.

[560] No one's standing with your crazy ass.

[561] Not only that, you might find yourself across the cage from some NCAA Division 1 national champion, and you are not stopping the takedown.

[562] Not only you're not stopping the taked in, but he doesn't give a fuck about exciting fights.

[563] He will ride down.

[564] you for 15 minutes and love every minute of it.

[565] Yeah, and smash your face with his elbows and you won't be able to get up.

[566] I agree.

[567] There's a big difference between standing up with someone where guys are used to slipping and moving and anticipating angles and someone literally holding your fucking face down and force feeding you elbows.

[568] And your head has nowhere to go.

[569] Doom.

[570] Yeah.

[571] But also with Joe Schilling, it's more of like, I just don't see the payoff for it.

[572] But also there's not a lot of money in kickbox and what he's doing.

[573] I'm hoping Bellator brings it up because they have bellator kickboxing now and uh ufc now has glory so the ufc has glory fight pass right yeah fight pass is they're carrying glory espn is also carrying glory i saw that they're smart man it's a fucking awesome product it's just right now people don't know about it you have to tell the guy's story that's the problem we need to be invested in these guys tell fucking joe shilling story it's great man yeah but we have to be investing care about the guy fighting otherwise it's just two guys kickboxing i think if someone like hbo got a hold of it if If they did it the way they do HBO boxing, if they had like a Simon Marcus versus Joe Schilling title fight, like two guys who have gone to war and have this crazy history behind him, where Marcus stopped him in one fight, and then Joe Schilling stopped Marcus in the fourth round of this insane fucking war.

[574] Were you there in L .A. for that fight?

[575] I watched it.

[576] I was not there in person.

[577] I was supposed to go with you actually.

[578] Fucking Mugly.

[579] When he uncorked that right hand and you see Simon Marcus go out, you're like, holy shit.

[580] And it was in the fourth round when there's that moment when these guys have to fight three rounds.

[581] And if the fight is a draw, at the end of the third round, they go to a final, what do they call it?

[582] Elimination round?

[583] Final elimination round?

[584] You don't call it sudden death.

[585] No, you can't.

[586] That's tough.

[587] That's rough.

[588] Especially with the current death.

[589] So they go to this one more round.

[590] And in the one more round, you can see both guys like, whoa, they're so fucking tired.

[591] And Simon Marcus had spit his mouthpiece out a couple of times.

[592] And he got a point taken away from him for it.

[593] And it was looking like Joe Schilling was going to probably win.

[594] So Simon Marcus is going after him.

[595] And Joe Schelling just uncorks his beautiful right hook that just completely shuts the light out on Simon.

[596] Think if HBO got a whole that and did a 24 -7?

[597] Dude, they honeydick me more than any.

[598] I will, if they do a 24 -7, I will buy anything.

[599] I don't even know the two Mexican boxers and I'm so invested.

[600] I'm like, I can't wait.

[601] I cannot wait They do a better job than anyone You could smell the tacos and hear the music And you feel the family I know my God want I'm to win They get good with those things They do it the best No one does it better at all You know what else they do that's good that I like When they do that thing where The face -offs with Max Kellerman Yeah with Max well they sit across the table And they both talk about like It's tough if they don't speak English though Because there's a delay There's a little bit of delay Like with Canelo With Connello and Khan I was watching like well Okay.

[602] You can see his airpiece.

[603] It's a little tough.

[604] How much English does can know?

[605] No. He doesn't know anything?

[606] Not very good, yeah.

[607] Not very good.

[608] Weird.

[609] Yeah.

[610] The money's over here, right?

[611] They all want to come over here for the money.

[612] I would think you just learn a little bit of English.

[613] It makes sense.

[614] Especially if you want to, you know, if you want to get big brands over here.

[615] Those shows, though, like Showtime has those ones they did for Mayweather's fights.

[616] What do they call them?

[617] All Access.

[618] All access, yeah.

[619] Yeah, those are big, man. They're good, but they're just not the same, is it, as the original 24 -7s.

[620] Nothing can fuck with the 24 -7.

[621] UFC's done some pretty goddamn good ones.

[622] Embedded, they're good.

[623] Yeah.

[624] They're good.

[625] The one when Cowboy fought Rafael dosangos.

[626] Yeah, they're great.

[627] Or like, yeah, the Ron one, they're good.

[628] I'm with you, man. You're bad shit crazy.

[629] You think he's friend in the HBO 24 -7?

[630] Where do you think they got the idea?

[631] And that guy's voice, is it Lee Shriver?

[632] Is it Lee Shriver?

[633] Yeah.

[634] Let's steal that guy and bring him the UFC.

[635] Yeah, who do they use for the UFC voice?

[636] I don't know.

[637] Yeah, that Leaves Shriver guy is weird.

[638] because you don't recognize that it's his voice.

[639] Because his voice is somewhat indistinct in some weird way.

[640] You know, like Liam Neeson.

[641] If Liam Neeson was doing a voiceover for something, you would know it's Liam Neeson.

[642] And that would kind of be distracting.

[643] I agree.

[644] But with Leif Shriver, he's like, oh, this guy's smooth as fuck.

[645] I'm like, God damn.

[646] That's it.

[647] I would get out of it.

[648] I would do anything for that guy.

[649] Literally, I don't even know him.

[650] I do anything for him.

[651] Yeah, that's all you get out of it is he smooth.

[652] Yeah.

[653] I mean, UFC could get so on it.

[654] else.

[655] Even like a Morgan Freeman would be sick.

[656] Well, that brings up the thing that's going on this week with Connor McGregor.

[657] We got caught off guard last episode.

[658] Jamie and I were talking, I don't know, it was just breaking news.

[659] And Jamie brought it up that Connor announced his retirement.

[660] And I said, I thought he was trolling.

[661] You and I had the exact same reaction.

[662] I was like, he's trolling.

[663] I was like, no, look at that.

[664] It's all weird.

[665] He'd be more eloquent than that.

[666] He'd be more, he'd put it out better than that.

[667] And then the news started coming out.

[668] And I also started thinking, well, maybe.

[669] Maybe, maybe something happened in training or maybe it was because of that guy that died recently and people were saying, you know, they were shocked that I didn't know the full details and the guy's death.

[670] Honestly, with things like this, like you know it's going to happen and it's unavoidable.

[671] There's a certain amount of risk involved in any extreme sport.

[672] Plus, that's the exception.

[673] Like, yeah, it's going to happen.

[674] That's the exception.

[675] It is an exception.

[676] That's like being mad at peanut butter when someone dies.

[677] It's like I'm still going to eat peanut, you know?

[678] It is exception, but I was waiting for all the details come out.

[679] I don't think they've done an autopsy yet.

[680] They don't think they know exactly what happened to them.

[681] I didn't think that with Connor.

[682] And I don't know if this is, I don't think it's sharing too much information.

[683] When Connor and I had lunch together, I was just talking about it.

[684] And he kept bringing up as a reoccurring thing.

[685] When we were talking, he goes, the media man, like for this, it's such a beast.

[686] He's like, like I've done interviews before, but, you know, it's different.

[687] Like, he's not a guy where.

[688] When any other fighters sit down doing an interview They're really not selling the fight They're talking about their camp And they're doing the same thing over and over Connor's a fucking master That we've never seen do it before So he's coming up with original content Nonstop he's on You know like when he came on our podcast He could he was on He did the whole car wash He was exhausted And when he came down You could tell him he was thinking And just start spinning out gold He's just a beast man So to have that guy Fly around the world and do all this shit I mean At the end of the day, we got to remember, this is a sport.

[689] This is not the WWE.

[690] So to keep putting on the spectacle like it's similar to WWE, at some point, you have to say, man, what these guys do is it's a real, real, we're in the hurt business.

[691] He has to focus, man. And I just feel like I think Conner's to blame too.

[692] Dana's to blame.

[693] I think both them just need to talk.

[694] Because if Connor before is bad playing on him, bad playing on Dana, if he just went, dude, listen, I've sold this flight more than anyone, man. This is nuts.

[695] I have to, if I lose this next fight, I'm screwed.

[696] Though a problem is it sets a precedent now.

[697] If I'm looking at it as a businessman, if I was a businessman, let's pretend.

[698] Okay.

[699] I would say this sets a precedent.

[700] You can't let someone decide what press they do and what press they don't do.

[701] Like you have an obligation to fulfill certain responsibilities, like with the media.

[702] For sure.

[703] Like create hype.

[704] But the question is, like, when do those responsibilities move into like a purely digital realm and when do those responsibilities only in showing up places physically, old school retro going places because like there's nothing wrong with the occasional press conference right no but but also you could accomplish way more with a few fucking viral videos than you ever could going to some weird interview with two people that aren't MMA fans and I think he made a really good point about that doing this fucking these morning shows they make them go do where you know nobody knows who the guy is or the They don't give a shit about M &A.

[705] Yeah, they don't want to talk to him to what you want to talk to him or I want to talk to him.

[706] You know, when I'm talking to Connor, like, before a fight, I'm trying to find out what's going on in the head of a guy who's going to engage one of the most exciting things that I'm going to see all year.

[707] No, you're not going on a morning show going, how about that cauliflower, huh?

[708] How'd you get that?

[709] Shut the fuck up.

[710] The girls like that.

[711] Oh, I know.

[712] But Conner's a guy where he's crossed over into pop culture.

[713] He's such a big star now.

[714] A tweet from him will hype the fight.

[715] I guarantee if Connor and Dana had a conversation and Dan was like, all right, man, I understand this is a big fight.

[716] Because you got to remember, if you were to lose this one, now you're losing your golden boy, the biggest star by far.

[717] By far.

[718] I also feel like.

[719] So if he could just focus, let's just let him focus a little bit.

[720] Well, I also feel like the magnitude of this, the dilemma that's in front of him and Nate Diaz is also very apparent.

[721] This is not a guy you can half ass.

[722] And even if you are 100 % ready, you've never even fought him at 100%.

[723] No. You fought him when he had 11 days notice what he'd been drinking in Mexico.

[724] I mean, he posted photos.

[725] It's a terrible matchup, man. And then you want to fly him on a plane.

[726] Did anyone think, man, all right.

[727] If you're looking at the...

[728] We're three months away, though.

[729] Okay.

[730] But still, Conner's exhausted, man, from doing all this stuff.

[731] And also, you know, I see some fighters go, it's our obligation to do these press conferences.

[732] Slow your old, homie.

[733] You're not Connor McGregor press conference.

[734] That's a big difference.

[735] Right.

[736] And a loss to him.

[737] you're talking millions.

[738] And the UFC, if I'm looking at as a businessman, I go, all right, all right, man. He's going to do a press conference, but we're going to come to him.

[739] Did anyone think to do that?

[740] Well, first of all, Connor is one of the most charismatic guys seriously of all time in all sports.

[741] No doubt about it.

[742] I mean, he is a fucking marketing machine.

[743] Like, they're just the quotes and his style.

[744] Joe, his tweet, I don't mean to interrupt you, but his tweet is the biggest tweet by an athlete this year.

[745] Yeah.

[746] Beat Kobe Bryant's retirement tweet.

[747] And you wanted to go to a fucking interview for ESPN?

[748] Well, they don't know the sport.

[749] Oh, I watch ESPN every morning.

[750] They were talking about LeBron James, the playoff game tonight.

[751] They interrupted this shit with breaking news.

[752] We're talking about Conner's not retiring.

[753] That's how big he is.

[754] Now, the PR team at UFC could not get this.

[755] They could not get this sort of attention, even if they want to.

[756] Connor can.

[757] It's a different age, man. Those old interviews, the old press conference, you have a legit fucking superstar man who makes more money than anyone.

[758] The highest gates.

[759] I totally forgot what I was going to say I had a serious point Sorry brother It's okay Sometimes I just go No well you know You have all good points All valid points And I get there's contracts I get stuff like that But there has to be Where you can't have a pissing contest You can't say well we're gonna run Like a business this time And then not this time Because it's good for the company With Carmen Greger And this big of a fight If he wins this Dude you know how much more money You're gonna make Not the fucking press conference Well you're absolutely right That he's one the most charismatic guys of all time.

[760] But Nate Diaz right now is goddamn gigantic.

[761] And I think we're going to realize.

[762] He's not as big as Connor.

[763] I'm close.

[764] But he's goddamn gigantic.

[765] He's huge.

[766] See what happens if Connor doesn't fight.

[767] That's part of that fight.

[768] Part of that fight is that Connor is also fighting another mercurial superstar character.

[769] I agree.

[770] Especially now after the first fight.

[771] I agree, Joe.

[772] But let's say Connor doesn't fight at USC 200 and let's say Nate fights Woodley or Robbie Lawler.

[773] Let me know how those ratings go.

[774] Let me know if you even break.

[775] He's not going to fight it once, I don't think.

[776] Well, let's say, at 155, let's say he fights Dos Angeles.

[777] Let me know how those ratings go.

[778] Here's where, it won't be as close.

[779] We know that.

[780] It wouldn't even be a quarter of it.

[781] I wonder.

[782] It'd be close.

[783] Maybe half.

[784] That's the power of, maybe half.

[785] Half makes sense, but half would still be pretty spectacular.

[786] You know what?

[787] Not even half.

[788] I'm being generous.

[789] And I love Nadeghis.

[790] He's the biggest.

[791] There's no doubt about it.

[792] He's the biggest.

[793] Yeah, well, who knows.

[794] It's all speculation.

[795] But here's what's interesting.

[796] They offered the fight, apparently, to Norma Gmadoff, but he can't take it because it's only four days after Ramadan.

[797] Fuck.

[798] Yeah.

[799] So he's very religious.

[800] So he does that whole fasting.

[801] I had a buddy mine, my friend Khan Kaleigh from back in Boston.

[802] He used to do that shit.

[803] Damn, he turned out a title fight.

[804] He would do that.

[805] He would fast when he was training.

[806] It was crazy.

[807] You have certain rules where you're not allowed to eat anything.

[808] How was it go?

[809] You're not allowed to eat anything or drink anything?

[810] Sun up, sundown, right?

[811] Yeah, son -up, sundown.

[812] I have buddies who do it, yeah, and you can't, there's no food or water, sun -up sundown.

[813] That's crazy.

[814] And at, like, 6 p .m., they have this feast.

[815] Yeah, but it can weaken you.

[816] And so Habib said it would have a real, it would be a real problem if you had a fight four or five rounds.

[817] And I get it.

[818] And I would love to see that fight.

[819] Habib Nogne Murdof versus Nate Diaz.

[820] Nurekameh Madoff.

[821] He's such a beast, right?

[822] He's phenomenal.

[823] Yeah.

[824] To us who are balls deep in the UFC world.

[825] Yes.

[826] No, you're right.

[827] ESPN ain't covering that fight.

[828] Dude, you should start a promotion.

[829] Look at you.

[830] you're a goddamn promoter.

[831] You know how to do this.

[832] I'm not.

[833] I've been through it.

[834] And when I see a guy like Connor who comes in once in a lifetime, if you think there's me another Connor McGregor, you're bat -shit crazy.

[835] I think when we invests in, it's the UFC that keep going.

[836] I think you're crazy.

[837] I think Connor's a special dude.

[838] And I think there's a few other.

[839] I think Brock Lesnar was.

[840] I think Ronda's.

[841] There's very few players.

[842] Is it possible that this is a calculated gamble based on not thinking he has enough time to prepare for Nate?

[843] No. I don't think so.

[844] Impossible.

[845] So this is just, This is just a matter of digging your heels into the ground and saying there's no way I can do this much price.

[846] 100%.

[847] I think he's just like, dude, I'm exhausted.

[848] You don't we go on this world tour?

[849] Can I please get ready for this?

[850] It's not the WWE man. Go ask a major superstar LeBron.

[851] And I know it's not the same, but LeBron, any of these guys, these superstars in sports, Ronaldo, go on these world tours, not get paid, sell the fight.

[852] But my social media will cover way more than this.

[853] Go fuck yourself But we have no one fighting Like he can't say anything You say anything Look, you got pulled from the card So more is not better There's a certain amount There's a certain amount you do At a certain amount you're doing it for the UFC You're not doing it for the Connor McGregor brand You're not doing it for the fighters brand You think by him going to ESPN He's can get what more followers But do you think that there's like There's a certain consideration That like it looks good To have fighters show up on like ESPN He's been there He's on breaking news He's been doing it.

[854] Maybe the week before do it.

[855] But when he wants to prepare for a camp and you have a guy of his magnitude coming off a loss and he's like, man, I really think doing all this press and all this stuff has fucked with my capabilities to be a fighter.

[856] I need to get back to that.

[857] Will you please let me focus?

[858] It makes sense.

[859] And I get, well, you can't have exceptions.

[860] No, motherfucker, you can.

[861] Because you do make exceptions.

[862] Because you have certain people in the UFC roster where they can't, you know what I'm saying, where they pick and choose when they fight or who they fight.

[863] There are exceptions.

[864] Right.

[865] Right.

[866] And here's another thing to take into consideration.

[867] One of the most important things that anybody, any athlete does while they're in training is get proper rest.

[868] It's one of the most important things.

[869] And what fucks up when you go traveling all the time?

[870] Your rest.

[871] It's the number one thing that wrecks you.

[872] You know, I mean, think how much you travel.

[873] Dude, I just flew in from Seattle this morning.

[874] It's not.

[875] I got up at five this morning, flew here, got right off the plane and drove right in here.

[876] Yeah, that's what happens, man. Your body gets, your immune system gets jacked from that.

[877] It's not good.

[878] I just think of the, and I think this is great for the sport.

[879] It's a good discussion to have because now future superstars will say, all right, I'm only doing this many interviews this much before the fight.

[880] Well, maybe this ain't going to happen.

[881] Maybe there's a debate.

[882] Maybe the debate could be held as to like, what is the, what's the amount that you need to do?

[883] What's the amount that you should do?

[884] You know, like, how do you have it set up and what would be the best way for the performance of the athlete, the consideration of their time and focus to put 100 % effort into something?

[885] not leave anything on the table because they really weren't rested enough because they were distracted too much because they were doing too much press?

[886] But who's at help in the end, the UFC and Dana White?

[887] Well, it helps a pay -per -view buys and they get a percentage of the buys, it increases paper -view buys.

[888] It helps everyone.

[889] Right, but if the fighter, I mean, there should be a direct, there's a direct, if a fighter has a percentage of pay -per -view, which guy like Connor does, the more pay -per -view deals, or maybe he does it, a title fight, we don't know what his deal is.

[890] So I'm talking about my ass.

[891] He gets paper -view buys for sure.

[892] I would assume, no matter what.

[893] I would assume.

[894] But, so the more press he does, the more things get sold, the more money he makes.

[895] But in his point of view, like tweets and things that he's doing right now are getting more attention to it than any of these stupid interviews.

[896] You couldn't pay for this kind of publicity.

[897] And you can't argue with that.

[898] That's absolutely true.

[899] But the question is like, where, where, you know, there should be like a contract.

[900] And the contract should state from X to Y. You know, pick a date in time.

[901] I would be left alone.

[902] If you Sada wants to get me, I'll be up in Iceland, freezing my dick off, throwing sidekicks.

[903] Come get me. I see, I think this whole thing is a miscommunication.

[904] I see Dana side, and I see Connor's side, right?

[905] As a fighter, I definitely see Connor's side.

[906] I think it's just a miscommunication.

[907] I think if before all this came out, if Connor was like, listen, man, I can't be doing all this fucking press.

[908] I guarantee you, if Dana was sitting right there, it would be no miscommunication.

[909] I don't think he would agree that it was a miscommunication.

[910] I think he would say that Connor just doesn't want to do it.

[911] the press.

[912] And I think that he would say you got to do the press.

[913] And to me that's a miscommunication.

[914] But I think it's a miscommunication.

[915] It's a disagreement.

[916] No, I disagree because I disagree.

[917] And this is why, Joe.

[918] Because I think after, even though he fought Aldo, he expressed, dude, I need to chill on these interviews.

[919] He beats Nate Diaz.

[920] Or he loses Nate Diaz.

[921] Again, he's like, dude, this fucking press is killing me. So he's been voicing it.

[922] And I don't know if his camp has had the discussion with Dana.

[923] But at some point Maybe they haven't We don't know There's total speculation We would say that they would have to sit down And come up with a schedule Like you've got to leave me alone For eight weeks But what if Dana and Connor had a conversation right now Man to man And Connor goes listen What I'll do I'll film videos every day I'll do this after my practices I'll put all this social media out For you guys create this fight No one has the pull that I do And I can create this many views For you millions and millions No other fighter can Don't pay me for it.

[924] Just don't make me travel.

[925] You don't think Dana and the UFC would agree to any of this?

[926] I bet they'd be open to it.

[927] You know, it's interesting.

[928] Kevin Hart, he was like one of the biggest stars in the world.

[929] One of the biggest comedians ever as far as like sales and volume.

[930] Like, no one is even close.

[931] I mean, he crushes it.

[932] He sells out like, what do you sell like 50 ,000 plus?

[933] Soldier Field.

[934] It's nuts.

[935] Anyway, that's not important.

[936] What's important is he's like gigantic.

[937] gigantic on social media, super active, and he does it all himself.

[938] So if he does a movie, like he'll do a movie, and they'll say, oh, great, and you can use your, you know, 5 .8 million social media followers, and it'll boost up the movie.

[939] And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's mine.

[940] That's mine.

[941] No, if you want that, and we've got to talk about that.

[942] He's the first guy I've heard doing that, too.

[943] Dude, like all the people that were in those movie meetings must have been like, oh, shit.

[944] Because then the rock goes, huh?

[945] Yeah, because there's a giant difference between a guy like the rock, like what he can do to sell a movie with social media and the average person, the average actor.

[946] I mean, he's constantly on it.

[947] He has a dedicated, loyal fan base because he's really funny and self -deprecating.

[948] I follow his ass.

[949] Works hard.

[950] So he's showing pictures of his alarm clock.

[951] It says like 4 .15 in the morning.

[952] He's up there fucking doing deadlifts.

[953] He's an animal, right?

[954] So a guy like that, that's a business on the side.

[955] That's his, that's his, like, he's got a hype business as well as a business to promote himself, but he can also hype things.

[956] You know, he's a promotion.

[957] He makes money on that.

[958] Like Kevin Hart, when he does that, I'm sure he's got it worked.

[959] He's talking about it.

[960] He's got it worked into movies now.

[961] So it's like, oh, if you want a part of the Kevin Hart money machine that I put together, well, you got to give me something, bitch.

[962] I got to get something.

[963] You're right.

[964] You're right in that respect.

[965] As a superstar.

[966] Now, not every fighter can pull that card.

[967] You legitimately have to be able to sell out giant stadiums and be a superstar.

[968] Yeah, and he certainly can, especially if you give him the right matchups.

[969] You know, if you give Connor the right matchup at 1 .45, like, I think, honestly, I mean, I'm excited about this Nate Diaz fight because I like watching them fight.

[970] I like watching Nate Diaz fight, and I love the attention he's getting.

[971] But if I was in Connor's camp, I mean, I understand that he's obsessed and he wants to get right back at it, I would say, go fight Frankie Edgar Go fight Max Holloway Have a rematch with Max Holloway That shit would be epic If Aldo Whoever Aldo doesn't You know they mix it all up Fight a rematch with Aldo Aldo's been talking mad shit about him You know I think Aldo genuinely believes That he fucked up And if he gets a hold of this dude this time He can punish him Which is awesome fight and awesome story I want to see it I want to see it But Connors can't think those fights Are still going to be there If he loses Nate Diaz I think it takes some of the It takes a lot of the star power already got taken away.

[972] It's too much of a risk.

[973] It's way too much of a risk.

[974] The star power got taken away in that second fight.

[975] Not 100%.

[976] Not 100%.

[977] He's still the biggest draw.

[978] But he was an assassin before that fight.

[979] Untouchable.

[980] Boy Mayweather -esque.

[981] There was something going on.

[982] Like when he flatlined Aldo with one punch and then did it like it was nothing and smiled and I was talking to him in the interview and he's just saying, you know, no power, no power.

[983] Just put it right where it's big.

[984] You're not saying anything like it.

[985] Yeah.

[986] I mean, the way he gobbled up the president.

[987] pressure and the way he controlled the shit talking.

[988] This is the thing, Joe.

[989] We've never had a guy of his capabilities and his mass appeal go, man, I don't want to do this.

[990] Like everyone else has jumped through these hoops.

[991] I want to fucking train, man. This is ridiculous.

[992] I'm already big enough.

[993] We've never had a guy really do this.

[994] He's also a guy where I think if he wanted to, if he wasn't involved with the UFC, let's say Dana, which would never happen, cut goes, go do what the fuck you.

[995] I'm sick.

[996] You go do what you want.

[997] He could sell out a giant arena in Dublin against Dada 5 ,000.

[998] every Saturday.

[999] That's how powerfully is.

[1000] That's what I literally make, and just make more and more money.

[1001] Well, I don't know about that because I think part of the excitement about him was building up to that Aldo fight that was part of the man who would be king's story, was that he was going to fight the longtime king.

[1002] And when he flatlined the long time king, he reached this level of legendary popularity that happens once in a hundred generations when it comes with fighters.

[1003] There's this moment, this boom.

[1004] How many guys reached that moment.

[1005] Like when he flatlined Aldo with one punch, and then it was in 13 seconds of the whole world was like, he fucking did it.

[1006] The answer is none.

[1007] Yes, it's fucking crazy.

[1008] Yeah, that was epic.

[1009] But the luster gets taken off by the Nate Diaz fight.

[1010] And if he loses to Nate Diaz, he's got a very good point that, you know, he can't lose because he wasn't given the right amount of opportunity to present or to prepare himself because he had to do all this press shit.

[1011] Like right now, the Conn McGregor fan base.

[1012] and guys hugging his nuts, which I might be one of them.

[1013] But he, you know, they're going, well, you know, Nate Diaz is way bigger and he kind of caught him off guard.

[1014] Well, all that good.

[1015] And there's a little asterisk, I guess, if you're this Connor guy.

[1016] Well, now, if he loses again, there's no more excuses.

[1017] We're kind of fucked.

[1018] There's no asterisk.

[1019] Nate had 11 days to prepare.

[1020] I'm not saying that you could, you know what I'm saying?

[1021] I'm not saying there is.

[1022] Nate straight up beat him with 11 days preparing sipping coronas on a boat and came and whipped his ass.

[1023] I thought Nate was going to beat him just by, first of all, the size and length and deceptive boxing skills.

[1024] That's what I thought.

[1025] I was like, this is going to be the first guy that Conner's ever fought that's been in wars with like legends.

[1026] I mean, he's been in there with a lot of fucking super high -level dudes.

[1027] He's a monster, man. He's a monster.

[1028] I'm like, this is a big, big fight.

[1029] And this is not a fight you want to take, even if he's not ready on 11 days notice.

[1030] You've got to get ready for this dude.

[1031] And his jiu -chitsu's off the chain, man. His jiu -jitsu is at a super high level.

[1032] And he's a chin.

[1033] And it's bigger than Connor.

[1034] There couldn't be a one.

[1035] matchup right now.

[1036] Spars with Andre Ward, world champion, and Joe Schilling on a regular basis.

[1037] I know, and his brother Nick.

[1038] I know.

[1039] Gilbert Melendez, Jay Shields.

[1040] No, no joke.

[1041] No joke.

[1042] Dangerous fucking fight, man. It's horrible.

[1043] What stresses me out.

[1044] It's a fucking dangerous fight.

[1045] But the guy who we're not talking about on all this is Nate Diaz.

[1046] Because even though if Nate Diaz, and you guys can say whatever you want, UFC DeLon is still going to be dope, I get that that's all fun and dandy for the absolute fans.

[1047] If there's no Connor, Nate doesn't make the same payday.

[1048] So he gets fucked man you're right and i want to see a guy like the the dues that nate has paid and remember the ds brothers were the first guys to go now fuck that man i don't think you should be done that way and you got appreciate that man in a in a land full of fucking sheep they were the first kind of wolves go no fuck that man this ain't right well they're also the first guys to put a ridiculous emphasis on extreme cardio yes and it shows in their style yeah i mean like nick doing marathons and triathlons And I was, it's funny, I keep quoting this And Nick corrected me the other day I said that he swam back from Alcatraz twice He just corrected me the other day He was five times now It's fucking nuts Five times He swam from Alcatraz To the fucking mainland They didn't think you could do that They didn't think it was possible That's why they put a prison there Because they didn't think people could swim This motherfucker is a stoner And an athlete He's not even a prisoner Don't fucking let Don't lock that dude I'm gonna swim right the fuck out if you have a bunch of guys like him in prison but how crazy are people these days they're doing things for recreation oh my god the only the only guy who could bring Nate Diaz's money is George St. Pierre George St. Pierre now I think we might be getting honey dick if George St. Pierre does happen to show up at UFC 200 it's like wait a second well George has openly said that he wants to go through a camp and decide whether or not he could do it at the end of it he's done it did he go through the the prep camp that's what I heard When did you hear this?

[1049] You got the inside scoop, dog.

[1050] I mean, I know he's been training a shitload.

[1051] And I know he doesn't care about belts or anything.

[1052] He just wants to take the fight.

[1053] You know what the holdup is?

[1054] What?

[1055] Reebok.

[1056] That's awful.

[1057] Oh.

[1058] Well, you're George St. Pierre, sponsored by Under Armour.

[1059] And then how many fights do you have?

[1060] And rebocs him like, yeah, here's whatever.

[1061] 50 grand where these Reebok pumps.

[1062] He's like, what the fuck?

[1063] No, man. I'm George St. Pierre.

[1064] So he's saying either the U .S. He has to make up for it in his purse or Reebok has to make up.

[1065] up for it so i think it's a money thing right now really that's what you hear is this inside scoop i don't know i think we just scooped a shit out of this story i don't know that's what i hear well i had been hearing rumblings of negotiations but uh you know it's one of those things you don't want to hope you want to just wait but also i's the only guy you can save the card well he would he would most certainly save the card oh my god you know it's would be crazy would be him and connor I mean, that's fucking nuts.

[1066] Tim and Connor Massan and Square Garden?

[1067] There's none of seats there.

[1068] No. There'd be full of just fucking...

[1069] GSP versus Carter.

[1070] It'd look like the Oscars.

[1071] It'd just be as crowd full of celebrities.

[1072] Regular folk can afford the tickets.

[1073] Especially if you get angry, GSP.

[1074] GSP that wanted to punish BJ Penn, GSP?

[1075] I think it's been tough to bring him out, but yeah.

[1076] You're talking about Rush?

[1077] You're talking about Rush?

[1078] Yeah.

[1079] Yeah, man. He was a motherfucker.

[1080] Oh, GSP was one of the weirder guys.

[1081] because he was such a nice guy at all times.

[1082] But when guys fucked with him, there was this switch that would go off in that head, and he would go on Seek and Destroy mode, and he was so good at it, man. When he fucked up, BJ, he fucked up Fitch, you watch those fights, and you just go, that is arguably the greatest welterweight of all time.

[1083] I agree.

[1084] I mean, his ability to mix up the strikes and the takedowns, we never knew what the fuck was going on, His constant victories and the scrambles, you know, and the BJ fight, too, where he was punishing BJ.

[1085] He wanted to punish him.

[1086] And when he beat him down and didn't stop him and then walked over to the wall and fucking punched it afterwards.

[1087] That's the motherfucker that we need.

[1088] Now, does he come back or do we get that safe GSP?

[1089] Because a safe GSP versus Con, I'm not trying to see that.

[1090] There's a long time gone.

[1091] Who knows?

[1092] Who knows?

[1093] Isn't it where we're talking about GSP and BJ, I mean, BJ Penn's coming back, too?

[1094] Yeah, well, I'm excited to see what that looks like.

[1095] BJ's fighting Dennis Siever, and he's been at Jackson Winklejohn's camp for quite a while now.

[1096] Yeah, man. So I'm assuming they're not letting him cut any corners.

[1097] Oh, no. They're really running them through the real paces.

[1098] Yeah, if you're at Jackson's, there's no cutting corners.

[1099] If you do your skin, your ass mollywopped in there, you wouldn't be there that long.

[1100] Right.

[1101] You get back on a plane, go home.

[1102] And why would he, I mean, he's been living out there for quite a while now.

[1103] From Hawaii to Albuquerque?

[1104] He'd better be pretty legit.

[1105] GSP negotiating UFC return, but Reebok deal considers Roblobock here.

[1106] There's a story.

[1107] Yeah, man, I don't know.

[1108] Just, this whole thing bums me out.

[1109] It's complicated.

[1110] Yeah, we'll see.

[1111] We'll see what happens.

[1112] But, man, that would be the 200 to end it.

[1113] Well, I think you save him for Mass and Square guy.

[1114] Do you think that would be Nate versus GSP if Connor doesn't do the car?

[1115] So Connor's not on the card anymore.

[1116] Well, today, he said, I'm down to fight.

[1117] He even goes, I will fly to New York.

[1118] do a press conference, but then I've got to go back.

[1119] So he's given a little wiggle room.

[1120] I think it's time to drop the egos, come to agreement, and save $200, and let Kahn and fight Nate.

[1121] Wait a minute.

[1122] Is Brendan Schaub the reasonable one?

[1123] How is this possible?

[1124] Weird.

[1125] Dude, how is this fucking ketogenic diet?

[1126] The keto kid.

[1127] He's super positive?

[1128] He's clear -minded.

[1129] I like everyone.

[1130] All right.

[1131] Is that Dana attacks?

[1132] Yeah, man. It'd be interesting.

[1133] It'd be interesting.

[1134] We'll see if he could work it out.

[1135] I hope so, man. We'll see.

[1136] It's a fun guy, man. It's made it fun, though.

[1137] You can't pay for this publicity.

[1138] Stylistically, that's not a good fight for him.

[1139] Nervous for him.

[1140] It's not a good fight for him.

[1141] And I'm happy for Nate.

[1142] Like, I like both guys.

[1143] I'm happy for Nate.

[1144] He's finally getting the credit he deserves.

[1145] He's coming out of his brother's shadow.

[1146] Like, we want this, man. To be announced, to be determined.

[1147] That is the big fight.

[1148] See, that rest of the card, don't get me wrong.

[1149] There's some phenomenal.

[1150] Are you kidding me?

[1151] Phenomenal fights.

[1152] It's an amazing card.

[1153] Look at this.

[1154] Look what's on the card here.

[1155] First of all.

[1156] Aldo versus Edgar.

[1157] I can't wait for that.

[1158] I can't wait for that.

[1159] I want to see what Frankie can do now, the new and improve Frankie.

[1160] Me too.

[1161] And then Aldo, I feel like, has declined a little bit.

[1162] I think the Chad Mendez fight, the second fight, he didn't look as good as he had looked in the past, and then obviously he's coming off of a big loss.

[1163] That's my favorite fight of all time.

[1164] It's a great fight.

[1165] And Tate versus Nunes, come on, son.

[1166] Jesus Christ.

[1167] It's a needle mover in my mind.

[1168] My needle's moving right now.

[1169] My mind.

[1170] My mind.

[1171] My mind.

[1172] Yeah.

[1173] That's what I'm saying.

[1174] That's what we're talking about, bro.

[1175] Okay.

[1176] So that's a good fight.

[1177] That's a very good fight.

[1178] Nunes is super dangerous, especially in the early rounds.

[1179] Hell yeah.

[1180] Tends to tire a little bit.

[1181] She tends to tire a little bit.

[1182] She blows it out.

[1183] But God damn, she's got some pop.

[1184] He's got a serious right hand.

[1185] Real dangerous Moy Thai.

[1186] Then you got Travis versus Kane.

[1187] That's a motherfucker of a fight.

[1188] For heavyweight.

[1189] And that's a motherfucker.

[1190] Damn, that's interesting.

[1191] The thing, to me, with Kane, it's like, Like, at what point do all these injuries in him come back?

[1192] At what point do we see him age?

[1193] Like, we've seen Rashad, right?

[1194] Come back from injuries, Rashad doesn't look the same.

[1195] There's sometimes when guys come back, you're like, ah, fuck, that's not the same guy anymore.

[1196] At what point do we see Kane not come back?

[1197] It's true.

[1198] But Kane's a motherfucker.

[1199] If he does come back, good luck.

[1200] But again, stylistic -wise, Travis Brown's a motherfucker for him.

[1201] Great takedown defense.

[1202] Obviously, great at striking, and he's huge.

[1203] He's a big boy.

[1204] Explosive, too.

[1205] Very fast, very good striking, long, wide base, good footwork and movement, hits hard.

[1206] That's a good fight.

[1207] It's a real good fight.

[1208] I didn't think you looked great in the Mitrione fight.

[1209] No, that wasn't the best fight for him.

[1210] But neither was the Arlowski fight.

[1211] That was a more disappointing fight, I think, for him.

[1212] Well, you got knocked out.

[1213] But even the trash brown one.

[1214] It went down.

[1215] But even in the Mitrione one, because we saw him for longer rounds.

[1216] I was like, nah, not crazy.

[1217] And then you get a guy like Kane, man. You're talking about a different motherfucker.

[1218] The Travis Brown made your own fight was just so unfortunate because the eye pokes.

[1219] I agree.

[1220] It's so fucking unfortunate.

[1221] Matt was doing well in the first round.

[1222] Then we got poked in the eye.

[1223] It was a little tough.

[1224] It was bad, man. I mean, his eye was horrific after the fight.

[1225] Oh, the way they handled that whole thing fucked, Matt.

[1226] Yeah.

[1227] Well, he's got a lawsuit, doesn't he?

[1228] I think so.

[1229] He's a fire suit, and he should.

[1230] But again, that's got a legitimate loss.

[1231] I don't know how that fight even goes down if they go three rounds.

[1232] I'm not saying Matt would have won that.

[1233] Travis definitely won the fight.

[1234] No, it was a great fight up until that moment.

[1235] But whenever a guy gets poked in the eye, like the outcome is marred.

[1236] When you're fighting a monster with one eye, it's going to be a tough fucking night.

[1237] Yeah.

[1238] But I tell you what, I don't mind Travis's shot here against Kane.

[1239] I don't think he's that big of an underdog.

[1240] And if he is, I don't know what the odds are.

[1241] But, I mean, Travis has that one -punch knockout power in knees.

[1242] Yeah, it's, it's, we really don't know how much, like you said, of a toll, all these injuries have taken on Kane and the time off me. We only saw him in that one fight with Verdume where we blamed it and he did as well.

[1243] on the lack of training at altitude, which makes sense.

[1244] Look at my face right now.

[1245] You don't buy it?

[1246] Fuck, no. It's how many dick in it's fine.

[1247] You don't get to his level and be like, altitude.

[1248] I got tired because altitude.

[1249] Bitch you knew for four months we were going to be fighting out that altitude.

[1250] But he's always been known for his cardio.

[1251] Maybe he just overestimated his own cardio.

[1252] Is that possible?

[1253] You don't think anyone in his camp was like, yeah, that's pretty high up there.

[1254] We should probably go early.

[1255] Well, Javier said that it was his fault.

[1256] He said I should have forced him to go early.

[1257] You know, sometimes guys just don't want to leave.

[1258] I think you just got beat by a better guy, man. Could be that, too.

[1259] I don't buy that shit.

[1260] Could be that, too.

[1261] He definitely looked tired.

[1262] But he's one of the greatest of all time.

[1263] 100%.

[1264] Just had an off night.

[1265] Well, Verdum is a big dude.

[1266] He's tall and long, and his striking has come a long way, and his jujitsu is the best in the business.

[1267] He's also the worst matchup for Kane, I think.

[1268] Stylistic -wise, he's a bad match -up.

[1269] He just got beat.

[1270] Yeah, you take him down.

[1271] You're going to get strangled.

[1272] Good luck with that.

[1273] And he's also not going to knock him out.

[1274] So he got to force it.

[1275] And Verdum can jump to guard, jump half -guard.

[1276] It's a horrible matchup for him.

[1277] So, yeah, he lost.

[1278] two gears.

[1279] Yeah, I'm really bummed out that we didn't get a chance to see the rematch.

[1280] I really wanted to see that rematch.

[1281] You're going to see it after this.

[1282] Maybe.

[1283] Yeah, it's a big man. I agree.

[1284] I agree.

[1285] This is a huge maybe.

[1286] This is a huge maybe.

[1287] Huge maybe.

[1288] And you know what, man?

[1289] When I saw that fine, it went tough fight for Kane.

[1290] And Steepet's a tough fight for anybody, man. Steepey is going to fight Verdoom.

[1291] That's a tough fight for Verdume.

[1292] Steepa's no fucking joke, man. He's no joke.

[1293] Him and...

[1294] Yeah, no joke.

[1295] The odds are stacked against him flying down to Brazil, I'm fighting Bredo.

[1296] Yeah.

[1297] The odds are stacked against him.

[1298] That's a tough place to fight.

[1299] But he's a geared up dude.

[1300] He's ready to rock.

[1301] And, you know, coming off of that big one -punch knockout of Overeem or of Orlovsky, he looked good in that fight.

[1302] He looked good and he looked angry.

[1303] I'm a steepest.

[1304] He's got momentum behind him.

[1305] Good dude, too.

[1306] I'm looking forward to seeing that.

[1307] And he will go to war.

[1308] We saw that in that five -round fight with Dos Santos.

[1309] With JDS.

[1310] I mean, he took Junior Dos Santos to the edge.

[1311] That was a fun fight.

[1312] That was a wild -ass fight.

[1313] It's a great fight.

[1314] It could have went either way.

[1315] could have went either way so i think that he's right up there and i think that's a really interesting fight i'm looking forward to seeing that but put up that cardigan because there's there was some other shit that we want to talk about look at this one musasi and brunson people didn't bring that up your boy hendricks needs a win so bad god dog he does man and that's a tough fight too man Kelvin is uh gonna be coming out i'm guns blazing because he lost a magnin last fight and then also hendricks getting stopped by wonder boy is going to charge kelvin up true i mean elvin's a great fight too man he's very fleet of foot you know he's got excellent footwork it's a tough matchup man if fucking johnny comes with his a game it's a rough night for kelvin i think yeah well it could be or who knows man kelvin could realize that he's got to bring it up to ten constantly in camp and reaches full potential And this is an opportunity to really erase the magnate fight And to get a victory over a former world champion I mean that's gigantic Then look at this you got Diego Sanchez and Joe Loz on that throwback son We call that throwback Thursday matchup This is the better fucking clean the canvas special I agree It's gonna be some blood in this fight It's some chaos It's early too so all those other guys You have to walk around that blood I used to hate that when there's a bloody fight before And there'd be blood on the mat And you know when you're when you first getting you take that flap around the hot gun i'm like god damn it you know what they do during the fox fights they spray paint over the blood tight move like gray it's gross we're sitting there doing the commentary and talking about some stuff and they're spraying like full bore paint booth like doing a chavelle 10 feet from us i'm not i'm not exaggerating that's like that blood sport when there's blood he's like scraping the mat and then the next guy comes out dude they spray paint it they walk around and spray paint over the blood And you're like, are you fucking shit in me?

[1316] And everybody, like, the camera guys are covering their faces with shirts and walking away.

[1317] I feel like there has to be a better solution.

[1318] Well, it's probably illegal.

[1319] Like, you have to have masks on and stuff for that shit.

[1320] You can't just blow it into the crowd.

[1321] There's 15 ,000 people sit in the audience.

[1322] They're like, well, what's really important is we deny what we're involved with.

[1323] That is weird.

[1324] So let's do a little spray paint on this blood.

[1325] We don't want to see any blood.

[1326] Blood's inside of everybody.

[1327] We need blood to stay alive.

[1328] Sometimes it's a bloody business.

[1329] But we don't want to look at it.

[1330] That is weird.

[1331] Yeah, they're like airbrushing nipples over there.

[1332] Stop it.

[1333] Stop it.

[1334] Did you say that's only on Fox or on pay -per -view?

[1335] It happens all the time.

[1336] Oh, it's only on Fox.

[1337] Yeah, they would never do it on paper -view.

[1338] The UFC knows exactly what it's selling.

[1339] For sure.

[1340] Yeah, they're not scared of some blood.

[1341] Matter of fact, some people like it.

[1342] Fox shouldn't be scared of it either, man. No, you got in bed with hiding.

[1343] Yeah.

[1344] Blood's going to happen.

[1345] You got in bed with the most exciting sport in the fucking world.

[1346] It's happened.

[1347] There's a little bit of blood.

[1348] Don't worry about it.

[1349] And during Fox fights, I'm not supposed to talk about blood.

[1350] But his mom's supposed to take it down a notch.

[1351] I'm supposed to not, man. I feel like they fucked up.

[1352] Tell me that.

[1353] See, there's a little thing in me. He goes, yeah, like, do the blood.

[1354] Fucking cool.

[1355] Well, it's, I shouldn't, I mean, there's no need to exaggerate it.

[1356] There's no need to dwell on it.

[1357] But if it's a cut on the guy's eye.

[1358] Yeah.

[1359] What if there's a cut on the guy's eye?

[1360] And you're like, that blood's fucking crazy.

[1361] Well, it also, the descriptives that I, this is what I believe.

[1362] The descriptives that I use during a fight have to match how I feel about the moment.

[1363] That gives me, I'm giving a better narrative of what I think's going on to fight.

[1364] When I see Diego Sanchez's face hanging off of his head as he's chasing after Martin Campman, and I say, this looks like a scene from a horror movie.

[1365] That's because that's what it really feels like to me. And if I don't say that, it's probably not, I'm not doing my job as well.

[1366] You're doing the fans of this service.

[1367] You're also not, I mean, that's why we love listening to Joe Rogan.

[1368] If you start fucking honey dickens.

[1369] Fox doesn't want that.

[1370] No, you're going to do it.

[1371] No, you're going to do it.

[1372] Fox isn't going to wear a condom.

[1373] To wear a condom.

[1374] This is a fox.

[1375] Everybody's...

[1376] Joe, we need you a tuxedo and a condom.

[1377] Have we worn our fox condom?

[1378] It's hilarious.

[1379] And there's not anti -Fox.

[1380] I'd love that they have the UFC on.

[1381] I think it's amazing.

[1382] Oh, it's great for the sport.

[1383] I just think you've got to stop spray -painting me. Stop making me breathe that shit in.

[1384] And the poor camera guys, the camera guy's five feet in front of me. He's taking that shit.

[1385] He's taking it right in the face.

[1386] He has to.

[1387] Oh, man. I see the lawsuits coming No why would the lawsuits come In 10 years if someone's fucking Prove it Just don't do it anymore Just don't do it anymore Do it like in elementary You remember when a kid threw up And then that weird janitor came with that orange substance It was like whatever It's for like shit the rest of the day I guarantee you there's health codes I guarantee you You can't just spray paint In a room filled with people with no ventilation Dude no one's seen Bloodsport Hire some fucking dude just goes out there between the rounds and scrubs the mats.

[1388] Yeah, but that's not good for the crowd.

[1389] The crowd doesn't want to see that.

[1390] Fuck the crowd right now.

[1391] Let's get that dude in there.

[1392] They're frauds, though, when you start spray -painting the mat.

[1393] They're watching it.

[1394] I agree.

[1395] They didn't put up a curtain.

[1396] What's going on behind the curtain?

[1397] No one knows.

[1398] What's that smell?

[1399] No one knows.

[1400] We have no idea.

[1401] Fucking gray smoke is in the air.

[1402] Everyone's coffin.

[1403] Fighters like, we were coughing.

[1404] I actually got away from the desk.

[1405] I put my headphones down and I backed away from the desk.

[1406] I'm like, what the fuck, man?

[1407] I'm healthy, bitch I'm the keto kid, too, you son of a bitch You guys are fucking up this kid Dude, you don't think they could hire Like some, I don't know, former fighter With fucking CTE just to scrub the mats And when he comes out and everyone goes Yeah, like he's a celebrity Then he has sponsors on his shirt and shit And he's scrubbing the mats This is like Ben Stiller's character In that movie, um, Tropic Thunder Like you could see like him Having played a guy like this in a movie For sure, man Shit has gone bad if you're doing that.

[1408] That's awful.

[1409] Can you imagine if they had former fighters cleaning the octagon and waving to the crowd with broken hands?

[1410] Oh, my God.

[1411] Oh, is that Junie Browning scrubbing the mat?

[1412] It sure is.

[1413] It sure is.

[1414] Yeah, there's certain things that we have to maintain a certain level of empathy and care.

[1415] And just like certain people can't have that job.

[1416] No, no. Once you're an all -time great.

[1417] You cannot.

[1418] Oh, no, you can't do that.

[1419] You can't even interview for the job.

[1420] Yeah.

[1421] I can't have you.

[1422] But you could do it if you wanted to, though.

[1423] Like if everybody knew you were okay.

[1424] What if you just had like a super fan?

[1425] Like if Randy Cotour decided in between fights, he was going to help scrub the mat.

[1426] And he looked up at everybody and he waved.

[1427] And Randy's in great health.

[1428] You know, he looked at everybody, waved to everybody.

[1429] And then got down and showed everybody, hey, he's not too big for cleaning the black.

[1430] He could do it if he wanted to do it.

[1431] No, people would start crying in the stands.

[1432] No, no, no, no. Is that the natural?

[1433] Fuck, man. He has overalls on, like, knee pads, start scrubbing the mat and shit.

[1434] But what I'm saying is he's still successful right now.

[1435] It's not like he's down the dumps, and everybody knows he's doing movies.

[1436] He's always doing the dependables.

[1437] Dependables.

[1438] Better name.

[1439] The expendables.

[1440] I mean, everybody knows he's doing well.

[1441] So it wouldn't be, you wouldn't worry.

[1442] You would say he's just doing it to show.

[1443] He's not above cleaning the blood off the mat.

[1444] Fuck, no, how dare you?

[1445] He's a national treasury, son of a bitch.

[1446] You can't have Randy Coutor.

[1447] You need, hear me on there, like, Dada 5, 5 ,000 in that pitch.

[1448] Oh, you better stop right now.

[1449] I think this is racist.

[1450] What?

[1451] Just because he's scrubbing the mats?

[1452] You can't have Randy do it.

[1453] I'll do it.

[1454] If Randy does that job, I will fuck that.

[1455] Give me that brush.

[1456] You'll do it too?

[1457] I will rush in there and save the day.

[1458] I would do it as well.

[1459] It's Randy Coutre, man. How dare you take it to Randy Coutor?

[1460] I was just saying Randy could do it because he's that humble.

[1461] Because his stature.

[1462] Yeah, because he's of his stature, because he's still, Well, first of all, if you hear him talk, you would never think, other than looking at his cauliflower ear, you know, you would never think that Randy Coutour had a lifetime of fighting.

[1463] No, he beat the game.

[1464] He's killing it.

[1465] Crazy.

[1466] And it's only like he didn't lose by knockout a few times.

[1467] No, I thought of heavyweight.

[1468] I mean, he got decoed by Brock.

[1469] He said, oh, well.

[1470] Leota Machita knocked him out with a flying front kick in his last fight, remember?

[1471] Jumping front kick in the face.

[1472] So that was Leoto.

[1473] I mean, he had been knocked out by Chuck.

[1474] Lesner.

[1475] Lesner, Lesnar, Lesnar was a TKO, but Chuck was bad, man. Chuck torched his head.

[1476] So, you know, there was two Chuck fights where he lost by knockout, right?

[1477] Yeah, either way Randy thinks of God.

[1478] He beat Chuck once, and then Chuck beat him twice.

[1479] Correct.

[1480] I mean, so anyway, my point is, Randy talks perfect.

[1481] When you hear him talk, he's smiling and he seems happy.

[1482] There's a couple guys like it.

[1483] So does Tito Ortiz.

[1484] he speaks pretty well Tito always had like a little bit of anxiety on camera that like would fuck him up like there's those classic videos of Tito when he was doing the affliction stuff I'm not saying he's fucking Bob Costas that's just anxiety No I'm just saying he speaks well If you have a conversation There's no brain trouble There's nothing wrong with them No no no no no no good point And you know there's a lot of other guys that have been around for a long time They don't have anything wrong with them You know there's a lot of guys That made it through and you talk to them, and they seem absolutely fine.

[1485] Have you seen that movie concussion?

[1486] No. That shit will make you question what you're doing with your life.

[1487] Really?

[1488] I watched it on a plane before Brian and I had one of our live firing the kids, and it fucked me up, man. Wow.

[1489] Bad, really bad.

[1490] It's crazy.

[1491] How much of it is based on reality and how much of it is a dramatic?

[1492] I looked into it afterwards.

[1493] I mean, you know, obviously for the movies, they exaggerate stuff.

[1494] But as far as the guys dying and the head trauma and stuff like that, that's all real, man. And the NFL hiding stuff, that's all real.

[1495] real.

[1496] That's why the lawsuit.

[1497] That's why all the NFL guys are the lawsuit because they went, oh no, that's all fake.

[1498] It's not true.

[1499] There's no brain trauma caused by football and they hit all this thing.

[1500] And by this doctor finding this stuff and trying to reveal it, reveal it.

[1501] They were trying to fuck him over, man. It's nuts.

[1502] And that's all real.

[1503] All real.

[1504] See, that's where it's crazy because the NFL's still in business.

[1505] Is this guy still around?

[1506] They can't get any bigger.

[1507] Yeah, the doctor.

[1508] He's still around.

[1509] Yeah, but he didn't want to be involved in the NFL.

[1510] They offered him a full -time gig to help him out.

[1511] And he's like, no, man. Wow.

[1512] I need to watch it, so I know exactly.

[1513] You need to watch it.

[1514] It's fucking intense, man. I watched him, I was like, fuck.

[1515] Look, football's dangerous.

[1516] I got done, and I just looked at Brian, Brian goes, what's wrong?

[1517] And I went, I'm fucked.

[1518] Brian started laughing.

[1519] He was, what are you talking about?

[1520] I watched concussion, man. He goes, no, you haven't done that much.

[1521] Like, well, 20 years of football.

[1522] Don't ever listen to Brian.

[1523] Oh, I know.

[1524] If you ever think that something might be wrong, you never go to Brian.

[1525] Because Brian will tell you.

[1526] You're fine.

[1527] The house burnt down, but it's because, you know, it's still the place with the house was.

[1528] You can't, you're going to camp for a few years.

[1529] That's Brian.

[1530] That's why you love them, man. But yeah, man, that movie, I'm fucking...

[1531] Some guys have made it through even Super Bowl careers, but it's not a lot.

[1532] The problem is when they test former football players for CTE, an alarming number show signs of CTE, like an alarming number.

[1533] My only question is what you think was going to happen.

[1534] You know what I'm saying?

[1535] I don't think we knew it to this degree, but at the same time, like, when I would run face -first into another giant man, I'm like, I can't be healthy for my brain, you know?

[1536] But, like, the way they talk about a concussion is if you put, like, an apple in a water bottle and you shake it, like there's water in there, that's like your brain, where most, like, you know, those Rams that headbutt each other, like a woodpecker, they have mechanisms in their head that absorb that shock.

[1537] Humans don't.

[1538] So when we run into each other, your brain is smashed.

[1539] attacking against this wall because we're not meant to do that we're not meant to punch each other in their face and run into each other with helmets on we're just not built for that no we haven't we haven't really developed the ability to absorb punishment or if we had that ability we lost it yes that's possible too like if you look at neanderthals they were built very different than us you know they they were very short and thick i think they only were like a little bit over five feet tall and they weighed one 200 pounds they had these big ass bones big thick bones they had bigger brains in ours too.

[1540] So they were built different, you know, and they were just dealing with shit all the time.

[1541] When they find them, they're always finding ones with broken bones and fucking spear points lodge in their spine.

[1542] Oh, yeah.

[1543] That's a day in the life of a caveman.

[1544] It's not a good time.

[1545] But our brains today, like this body today.

[1546] Just floating.

[1547] Well, also, you see, like, people are becoming, they seem like if you look at people's like bone structure in comparison to, obviously Neanderthal, which is a different species, But some people retain some percentage in the intertal DNA.

[1548] But you would assume that as people go further and further away from the ancient hominids, the ancient monkeys and stuff, we're getting softer and weaker.

[1549] We're coming more and more.

[1550] More softer, for sure.

[1551] But yeah, we're involved in, like, football is the biggest sport in the, well, definitely the biggest sport in the country.

[1552] Not the big sport in the world, obviously.

[1553] By far biggest in the country, though.

[1554] They own two days.

[1555] They own Monday and Sunday, which is not.

[1556] Not only that.

[1557] When there's a Super Bowl, it's a fucking almost a. a national holiday.

[1558] Super Bowl Sunday is like everybody knows it.

[1559] Everybody knows Super Bowl Sunday.

[1560] Everyone.

[1561] It's that big, like the World Series can come and go and people might miss it, but they don't miss Super Bowl Sunday.

[1562] Never.

[1563] But you know what's weird talking about, you know, those Nathandrols?

[1564] The cavemen, how they're big.

[1565] Yeah.

[1566] So NFL players actually getting bigger though.

[1567] The athletes getting bigger and faster and stronger.

[1568] Like they're getting way bigger.

[1569] Yeah, but a 300 -pound lineman in 1988.

[1570] It's like, damn, that's a big boy.

[1571] Now it's like 300, bitch, get out of it.

[1572] You go step your game up.

[1573] Yeah, I wonder what that is Might be still wrong Yeah What are they testing for?

[1574] Do they test for shit in the NFL?

[1575] Yeah, but you know Usually it's once a year Once a year It depends Unless you're, unless you've been caught before Then you're in a program We're getting tested all the time But why would they catch them?

[1576] Why would they try to catch them?

[1577] Because you're an idiot I agree What are they trying to prove?

[1578] Same thing, the sport is safe Look, we're testing everyone Shit, but that doesn't That just makes you recover slower You know, it's It's a weird dynamic it is a weird dynamic because you want people to be gigantic dude no one talks for being no one talks about this and i i know it you know the wb fans are fucking ruthless but how many wb athletes die like china just died what last night two nights ago remember the big girl china she just died like it's a kind of alarming because they're not a ton of them right but when they get older they die what did china die from i don't know i think she was uh how old was she died in her house 45, I believe.

[1579] Not that old.

[1580] She was on Fear Factor.

[1581] Really?

[1582] Yeah.

[1583] Before she was big or like as a celebrity?

[1584] No, she was big, man. She was a celebrity.

[1585] Yeah.

[1586] What's she doing on there?

[1587] She did some gross shit eating like snails and, but she did one thing and after she got out of this thing.

[1588] She goes, who's the man?

[1589] Oh, fuck.

[1590] She flexed.

[1591] That's the least sexy thing I've ever heard of my life.

[1592] Well, she wasn't trying to be sexy.

[1593] I'm just saying, that's me. Victorious.

[1594] Victorious.

[1595] Who's the man?

[1596] She went into porn, you remember that?

[1597] I do remember that.

[1598] Yeah.

[1599] As She Hulk triple X. Yeah, that was whoa.

[1600] Why I know that's going on.

[1601] I don't ask.

[1602] Well, I think when people don't have a whole lot of options, they start getting real desperado.

[1603] They don't know what to do.

[1604] That would be El Desperato, doing Shehawk Triple X. Oh, that's her?

[1605] That's you and her, son.

[1606] Look at her muscles.

[1607] Look how skinny I am.

[1608] I feel like she would have fucked you up back then.

[1609] I'll fuck her up.

[1610] You're too quick and light.

[1611] Rest of peace.

[1612] That's sad, though, man. So let's find out what happened.

[1613] Was it pills?

[1614] They don't know.

[1615] They don't know.

[1616] They don't know, man. She was super nice, man. Real friendly.

[1617] She was a real nice person.

[1618] Yeah, she followed me on Twitter.

[1619] Nice to everybody.

[1620] Like on the set and everything like that.

[1621] That's a bummer, man. But I think it's conversation to have, like, the substance they put in their bodies, and you look at their schedule, be on the road 300 days a year, constantly falling, up or up or up or it's like.

[1622] I know it's a lot of pain.

[1623] I know it's not a legit sport compared to the NFL, UFC stuff, and MBL or all that.

[1624] stuff but it's you got to talk about it yeah because these guys are passing away but there's no there's no regulatory like no one's making sure there's no commission well there's certainly athletes but i think a lot of people think of them as athletes more of like a cirque de solace type thing like they're doing a performance yeah then they think of them as competitors in a sport so they don't look to try to regulate it or change it they look at it as sort of like an entertainment thing these people are doing no i'm i'm with you man i'm with you but they're taking some performance enhance and supplements that a lot of the pro athletes are taking even more so, I think, because their schedules are way crazy.

[1625] Oh, yeah, no doubt.

[1626] So when they pass away, I think there has to be some sort of plan in place, I think, you know?

[1627] Well, the problem is, like, God damn.

[1628] Well, the problem is, she hasn't worked for them in a long time.

[1629] That's one.

[1630] And the second thing is, if she was doing or she was abusing any other substances, they're not really responsible for that.

[1631] Like, we don't, we don't know how much of what she was doing she was doing just because she was in a recreational drugs.

[1632] There was obviously some steroids involved.

[1633] I'm referring to the steroids, Joe.

[1634] Oh yeah, I'm sure I'm pretty positive That's what they're saying Right A lot of people were saying that Right She was on an opium Not too long ago She had just came back from Japan Where I think she'd been living For the last couple years Oh teaching English Yeah doing Just getting away from the craziness Of America She was just coming back To get back into life And entertainment Damn She was found dead After not talking anybody For six days Or something like that She went dark That sucks man Fucking I just think it's something To look into With the WWE guys It's a discussion to fucking have at least well i'm sure they must be having it it's a giant organization you don't think we should have had after chris benoit again there's one of those guys who goes off the rails like that and does something horrific and you got to wonder like was that in that guy anyway did he have issues already did it have something to do with wrestling did it have something to do with substance abuse concussions they get a shitload of concussions it could be a lot of different factors i agree it's definitely something to look into but it's it's so rare that someone goes that far off the rails like he did I agree.

[1635] I'm just saying let's look at what they're doing to their bodies and have a discussion about it maybe to make it safer.

[1636] So to prevent it from happening.

[1637] That's it.

[1638] I'm not saying it's an epidemic.

[1639] I'm just saying a lot of these guys are fucked.

[1640] What do you, Captain Save a Ho over here trying to save everybody?

[1641] People want to do flips off the top, Rob?

[1642] Possible overdose or natural death.

[1643] What that?

[1644] Hey, natural at 46?

[1645] No one finds that fishy?

[1646] That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.

[1647] Dead on her bed after receiving a call for, oh, okay.

[1648] We don't need to read all the rest of this.

[1649] She's a very nice person.

[1650] So rest in peace.

[1651] I know.

[1652] Buns me. China.

[1653] Nice lady.

[1654] Hey, let's at least get it on a good note.

[1655] How about your boy Ben Henderson going for the triple crown?

[1656] Bellator, WC, UFC belt.

[1657] Say what?

[1658] No one's talking about it.

[1659] Not nothing.

[1660] Who is he fighting?

[1661] He's fighting this rushing cat, and I wish I could remember his name.

[1662] I've even trained with him, so I'm even bigger prick for that.

[1663] But it's a tough fight for Ben.

[1664] He's beat better guys, but it's a tough.

[1665] It's not a walk in the park.

[1666] It's just weird that no one's bringing it up at all.

[1667] See, that's the disadvantage of signing with Bellator.

[1668] Yeah, Bellator.

[1669] Because imagine if he was doing this in the UFC, it'd be fucking everywhere.

[1670] But it's, ooh.

[1671] Oh, Korskov.

[1672] Well, you know, what's interesting is I don't even, I mean, I don't watch half of the Bellator ones.

[1673] I don't even watch half of them.

[1674] I know the probably pretty good fights.

[1675] I watch them if they're the major ones.

[1676] Obviously, I'll watch Ben, Phil, King Mo, a lot of these guys that I like.

[1677] But I'm like, what is missing?

[1678] What is missing from even drawing me?

[1679] I mean, I almost feel like detached from it because I feel insulted by the freak show element.

[1680] Me too.

[1681] I feel like it was a slap in my face.

[1682] I feel like, dude, you set us back, man. I feel like a dummy for watching.

[1683] Me too.

[1684] Really, right?

[1685] I agree.

[1686] Yeah.

[1687] Whereas like I don't feel like that if I watch Glory or if I watch anything else or if I watch one FC.

[1688] I don't feel like that.

[1689] I feel like I'm getting shit on.

[1690] Like you're putting the other nonsense.

[1691] That might sound weird to say.

[1692] I almost feel like I'm cheating on the UFC when I watch and I talk about.

[1693] I'm like, ooh.

[1694] Really?

[1695] Is that weird?

[1696] Yeah.

[1697] I think it's good to have competition.

[1698] I think it's important.

[1699] I agree, they have the ways to go.

[1700] They do, but they...

[1701] Ben's a good step in the right direction.

[1702] They didn't have to, though.

[1703] They didn't have to.

[1704] If they did the right thing and promoted it the right way, they went for, like, big ratings on a couple of these weird fights, which the UFC did, too, sort of, in the early 2000s, like when Tank Habit came back.

[1705] Yeah.

[1706] I mean, there was a few of those times, you know?

[1707] You had to do that back when it getting started.

[1708] They did some fights back then that were...

[1709] In comparison, silly.

[1710] But people didn't consider a sport really back then.

[1711] It was coming along.

[1712] Correct.

[1713] But the sport's already established now.

[1714] And so they're taking advantage of these old veterans like Hoyce and Ken Shamrock and having that fight.

[1715] And it's going to draw in the casual, nostalgic viewer that remembers UFC 1, and they're going to go and they're going to watch it.

[1716] There's no sustainability with that.

[1717] It's just not there.

[1718] There's no sustainability.

[1719] And the other problem is that for whatever reason, I don't know what the reason is.

[1720] You're not hearing a lot of noise about their champs, you know, and you kind of should.

[1721] It's weird.

[1722] Will Brooks is a bad motherfucker.

[1723] Michael Chandler's a bad motherfucker.

[1724] They got some great fighters over there.

[1725] Patriki Pitbull's a bad motherfucker.

[1726] Monsters, man. Very good fighters.

[1727] So it just seems like whatever they've done wrong.

[1728] Ben was on ESPN.

[1729] That's good.

[1730] He was on ESPN talking about.

[1731] I'm glad they're giving it some pressure.

[1732] Look, they definitely need, like the UFC could use competition and I think it would boost the sport whereas it would make the sport bigger.

[1733] I just don't think that Belator and current state is competition.

[1734] They're taking a lot of fighters that are past their prime, except for Benson.

[1735] Benson going over there is the biggest coup, I think.

[1736] Phil?

[1737] Phil's big.

[1738] Phil's not past his prime.

[1739] No, but Phil had been beaten soundly by Rumble.

[1740] He did have that really good fight against Glover.

[1741] He beat Glover.

[1742] He beat Machita.

[1743] That's true.

[1744] The machita fight was super, super close.

[1745] Still, though, he's still a win.

[1746] He's beat Gustafin.

[1747] That's true.

[1748] He strangled him.

[1749] Yeah.

[1750] So, I mean, but the thing about Phil is Phil isn't a guy.

[1751] Phil's fighting style is in a guy We're like, I have to fucking see this.

[1752] You say that, but in Bellator, he looked fucking sensational.

[1753] It looked like a destroyer.

[1754] Amazing.

[1755] He won by stoppage.

[1756] And maybe he's off to a new star.

[1757] Maybe he recognizes the urgency of being in a new organization.

[1758] Oh, he's one of the best fighters in the world.

[1759] And going over there, I think, you know, he was the first guy to do it.

[1760] I remember texts, I'm going, you got some motherfucking balls.

[1761] Good luck, man. You know, and he's like, he texted me, I'm so scared.

[1762] Hell yeah, man. It's scared.

[1763] It's paying off, right?

[1764] Because what's that now?

[1765] Yeah.

[1766] And now Ben Henderson.

[1767] And they got Mitrione.

[1768] Mitchon's a little older, but at least it's a heavyweight.

[1769] So, those are three completely legit guys that they've acquired.

[1770] You need a stable.

[1771] Yeah.

[1772] Well, it would have been interesting if they got Fedor.

[1773] It would have been interesting.

[1774] Well, Fadour's playing grab ass and he's fighting Maldonado.

[1775] Yeah.

[1776] I don't know what that's all about.

[1777] I might be wrong on this.

[1778] You might have to look up, Jane.

[1779] I think it's on Fight Pass.

[1780] What is?

[1781] Fador might be on Fight Pass.

[1782] I thought that fight.

[1783] Versus Maldonado?

[1784] Risen or Risen is on fight pass.

[1785] Come on.

[1786] Am I crazy here?

[1787] I'm making shit up?

[1788] Really?

[1789] I don't know.

[1790] This ketogenic diet.

[1791] It's just my brain on another level.

[1792] It would be funny if you really nailed it.

[1793] But he's been saying lately that he's been in talks to the UFC.

[1794] And I think you'd give it a good go because you look at the state of the heavyweight division.

[1795] Everyone's old as fuck.

[1796] A bunch of fossils.

[1797] But don't you think they put them immediately with Verdume?

[1798] I like that matchup.

[1799] I like their matchup, too, but I think you have to do it that way, right?

[1800] Fuck, yeah.

[1801] You can't toss them like some young dude.

[1802] But what young dude do we even have?

[1803] We don't have one.

[1804] We don't really have a lot of...

[1805] I couldn't name one.

[1806] But I'm saying for him, like, there's a resurgence of all these older fighters.

[1807] Look at Rothwell or Lovsky, fucking Hunt.

[1808] Frank Mayer Grant he just lost.

[1809] But all these guys are old as fuck.

[1810] Dude, Fador, there's hope, my man. He can still do it.

[1811] You never know, man. With that skinny fat bill just fucking dudes up.

[1812] If he still has that motivation.

[1813] And there's drug testing now.

[1814] I'm not saying he did something.

[1815] What are you trying to say, bro?

[1816] I hate to piss on the pride days, but I'm just saying it ain't the Wild Wild West.

[1817] We have to see your dick this time.

[1818] Yeah, we don't know.

[1819] We're just speculating.

[1820] I'm just saying.

[1821] It is totally possible.

[1822] Guys look different.

[1823] Does he look different?

[1824] Well, he doesn't weight training anymore.

[1825] No, let me know what steroids you were taking because I would never touch him.

[1826] Because physically I'm going for a little too.

[1827] But he got thicker again.

[1828] before his most recent comeback.

[1829] There was all sorts of posts about it online.

[1830] I saw some photos of him training, and he looked thicker.

[1831] Back to the old days, like throwing around logs and shit.

[1832] He looked better.

[1833] He looked like he had been doing some weightlifting, because there had come a time in his career where it looked like the weightlifting days were over.

[1834] Like the early days, he was way thicker and bigger, and then as he got older, he concentrated more on skills and less on strength and conditioning.

[1835] And that's not him.

[1836] I think you need both.

[1837] I think especially this day and age, but when he was fighting, fuck, man. I think he just put a lot of emphasis on a striking in particular and his ability to explode with combinations.

[1838] If you go like to the Tim Sylvia fight, the speed of combinations that he was hitting guys with.

[1839] And his hips?

[1840] Yeah.

[1841] The power in his hips.

[1842] It's insane, man. I think he has a legit shot to do some work in the heavyweight division.

[1843] Now, if you're his age and you come back to 5570, you fucked.

[1844] Yeah.

[1845] But his age at heavyweight?

[1846] Hell yeah, son.

[1847] What age is he?

[1848] No, he has to be at least 38, 39, right?

[1849] Fadorn.

[1850] We'll find out.

[1851] Him versus Barnett or something?

[1852] Throwback, son?

[1853] I honestly don't think he's that old, man. I don't think he's that old.

[1854] 39?

[1855] 39?

[1856] Wow, interesting.

[1857] I'm telling him this ketogenic touch, that's my brain firing, son, dude.

[1858] It's like pulling old shit out.

[1859] UFC offered Fador Emilienenko more money than rising probability to fight inside the octagon very high.

[1860] Whoa.

[1861] Holy shit.

[1862] That would be intense.

[1863] Tense.

[1864] Why is he a boxing gloves on there?

[1865] Because these fucking people are those boxing gloves?

[1866] No, those are those big ass.

[1867] Those are fliction.

[1868] They're all big, yeah.

[1869] Oh, wow, they're huge.

[1870] Are those?

[1871] Yeah, those are fliction.

[1872] Yeah, it's just, they look a lot bigger than they do.

[1873] Yeah, they do.

[1874] It's the wraps.

[1875] Dude, can you imagine?

[1876] This is almost hard to say.

[1877] Can you imagine Fador in a Reebok kit, walking the octagon?

[1878] I might buy that Reebok kit.

[1879] If it was white and red, would you?

[1880] Would you?

[1881] Put it said Fador.

[1882] Oh, it'd be the first kid I buy, son.

[1883] It'd be fucking dope.

[1884] Or I'd just make my own.

[1885] I'd wear a Fador shirt for sure.

[1886] Fuck, yeah.

[1887] I used to wear a Crow Cop security shirt.

[1888] Did you really?

[1889] Before I fought him.

[1890] I bought it online from like Croatia.

[1891] It came like nine weeks later and it was too small but I still rocked it.

[1892] Like my belly hung out underneath it.

[1893] I was like, fuck it.

[1894] No one really knew who he was.

[1895] I used to train that thing all the time.

[1896] How weird was it getting a call to fight that guy after that?

[1897] So weird.

[1898] Might be the best call I've had in my life.

[1899] Well, it was one of the best results.

[1900] If you ever had in the octagon.

[1901] Yeah, might be the best, Joe.

[1902] After that, if someone said, hey, man, let's just kind of move on from here.

[1903] I'm like, all right, if you showed me a crystal ball, all right, it's all right from here, but I'll just move on.

[1904] What do you think of OSP and John Jones?

[1905] I think OSP, he's an explosive guy, but, man, John's just too smart, too long to get caught.

[1906] I think it's a good, I hate saying this because OSP is such a good athlete, and he's ranked in the top 10 or whatever.

[1907] It's a good tune -up fight for John.

[1908] Wow.

[1909] I know it's fucked up.

[1910] The number six light heavyweight is a good tune -up fight for you.

[1911] Light heavyweight is struggling, son.

[1912] Well, sort of, but not really.

[1913] It's like there's so much possibility there.

[1914] In the top five.

[1915] Yeah.

[1916] What Glover just did to Rashad, holy shit, man. It was hard to watch.

[1917] It was hard to watch because, you know, Rashad was super tentative and was on the outside.

[1918] It was moving away from Glover, and Glover just closed the distance and closed the lights.

[1919] Like the Terminator.

[1920] There couldn't be a worse matchup for Rashad.

[1921] Like, I just wish, and I get it, man. People are like, well, fighters fight.

[1922] I get that, man. But Rashad's stage in his career, sometimes you've got to have a man to go, dude, Glover's a fuck.

[1923] He does everything better than you right now.

[1924] Let's figure something else out, bro.

[1925] I mean, you win this one.

[1926] Are you going to fight for the title?

[1927] Probably not.

[1928] I think he's got to take whoever he can, you know.

[1929] So look what we got here.

[1930] This is what I want to see.

[1931] Anthony, Johnson and Glover.

[1932] Come on, son.

[1933] What?

[1934] Especially after Glover.

[1935] Glover called for it.

[1936] That's the best fight in the UFC right now.

[1937] Please make that happen.

[1938] If there's one fight that could give me to go to a UFC fight, it'd be that.

[1939] And by the way, I don't know who the fuck to bet on.

[1940] Me neither.

[1941] How about that?

[1942] Me neither.

[1943] That shit could be chaos in both directions.

[1944] I think if it goes past the first round, Glover takes over.

[1945] Maybe.

[1946] But that first round is going to be a motherfucker.

[1947] That first round, it's like one of those scenes in a movie where, like, a building explodes and you have to run through the rubble without it hit you in the head, son.

[1948] You had a mine feel.

[1949] to navigate when you're fighting rumble.

[1950] That's one mistake.

[1951] If that fight doesn't get you crunk, you fucking, you're an idiot.

[1952] And is Gustafson retiring?

[1953] I've been hearing that Gustafsson doesn't want to find him.

[1954] Yeah, like I saw an interview he did where he's saying he's like lost the passion for it.

[1955] So he came to San Diego hoping he could find it and I'm not sure if he did.

[1956] But when you start talking like that, I want you to look at the top three because Glover, Anthony and John Jones will rip your dick off and they want this more than anything.

[1957] So it's probably time to maybe give it up It's interesting that Bader Well I guess Bader beat Ovin St. Prue So he should be ranked above him True And then Rashad Shogun's still in the mix, huh?

[1958] Dude, you're crazy if you think Light heavyweight's good That's just shit That keto gets me Another level on him and say shit It is though It is look Hey past six Fuck you Fuck you Fuck you.

[1959] Well, Ovin's, Rashad, Shogun, Jimmy Manawa.

[1960] Jimmy Manoa is a guy.

[1961] Jimmy Manoa is a guy that just was not in martial arts that long before he was fighting top -level guys to M .M .A. He's a sick athlete with ridiculous power, and I just feel like...

[1962] The game's changed.

[1963] No one gives a fuck.

[1964] Because now you have real fighters.

[1965] Go, what?

[1966] You're fast.

[1967] Can punch out power?

[1968] That's cool.

[1969] I'm just going to take you down.

[1970] He fought Rumble, man. When he fought Rumble.

[1971] Well, Gustavs, Stopped him before the Rumble fight in a very important fight.

[1972] Why do they do them like that?

[1973] Here's Rumble.

[1974] Here's Gustafin.

[1975] Yeah.

[1976] God damn it.

[1977] I know.

[1978] A double whammy of death.

[1979] You're fighting a guy that's boxing you up from another zip code.

[1980] You're just like, fuck!

[1981] I can't get a break well in the UFC, bitch.

[1982] And then you fight a Rumble.

[1983] Dude's got literal nuclear weapons tied to the end of his hands.

[1984] They got Shogun and Little Nog in the top 10.

[1985] That's a hard sell.

[1986] especially Little Nog is a hard sell as a top 10 guy And that's a good argument But there's no one Yeah there's no Like you look at the heavier divisions And like at heavyweight I mean there's fun matchups Everyone's old as fuck though really man And they look at light heavyweight There's not a lot going on outside the top five And in the top five Alexander doesn't know if he wants to do it anymore It's very important Yeah very very good point But why do you think that Joe Why do you think these bigger athletes aren't gravitating towards mixed martial arts.

[1987] Well, I don't know if it's that or if it just comes in waves.

[1988] You know, I think sometimes you have a guy like John Jones and they create a bit of a bottleneck because they're so good.

[1989] We can't forget about Cormier, of course.

[1990] So just in that alone, you've got John Jones and Cormier.

[1991] Cormier is as good as anybody in the world.

[1992] Oh, sure.

[1993] You got Anthony Johnson who can knock out a tree.

[1994] You got Glover.

[1995] You got Gustafson.

[1996] And who knows what could or couldn't happen this weekend with Ovin St. Prue.

[1997] you know the guys on that list when I'm looking at him I'm like well these are there's you've got at least one two three four five six legit six legit six legit world beaters six legit but you're talking about the biggest organization in the world after that it's like yeah not much going on there's no young talent where you're like dude he's there's no sage north cuts or yeah but doesn't it happen in cycles and weight classes because there was no one at 185 for a while 185 was struggling for a while let me see 185, Jamie?

[1998] 185.

[1999] Now you've got it, well, you know, once Anderson lost and Weidman came in, now you've got, look at this crazy mix.

[2000] And I don't know what they're going to do with Yoel Romero, but what I understand is that he has a very small window where they're going to ban him for, like only like five months.

[2001] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2002] What he did, what he did was totally, he was actually honest.

[2003] They got the stuff independently off the shelf that he said that he took.

[2004] They took that stuff and they tested it and it had low levels of whatever this peptide.

[2005] is that's supposed to grow testosterone in your body or something like that.

[2006] So he really didn't take anything that he wasn't supposed to take.

[2007] He took something that had something in it that wasn't supposed to be in it.

[2008] And he proved it.

[2009] But Joe, even if you go through middle weight, look, okay, Vitor, he ain't that young.

[2010] Bisping?

[2011] I mean, not young, has one eye.

[2012] Anderson Silva, okay, leg fell off.

[2013] Leo Machita, well, older.

[2014] Musasi, Tim Kennedy, ladies.

[2015] There's not Dan Henderson's in there?

[2016] How is Musassi ranked above Uriah Hall when Yariah Hall jump spinning back, kicked him in the face and stopped him?

[2017] Whoever votes on this thinks it's a fluke?

[2018] Those are ridiculous people.

[2019] That is a ridiculous ranking.

[2020] They're the ones writing articles that you're speaking about.

[2021] You cannot be two steps above a guy when a guy stopped you in your last fight.

[2022] That is weird.

[2023] You cannot.

[2024] I wish our boy, Tim Kennedy, would get a fight.

[2025] But that's just an arrogant assessment of someone's ability in comparison to someone else's ability that's not based on facts.

[2026] You have to base individual interactions between two fighters.

[2027] You have to base them on facts.

[2028] Yes, it's very black and white.

[2029] It's very black and white.

[2030] There's no doubt about it.

[2031] The Uriah Hall proved himself to be the better fighter.

[2032] Gagard and Musassi took him down and controlled him in the first round.

[2033] And the second round, Yerai Hal jumped spinning back, kicked him in the face and knocked him out.

[2034] Yeah, I saw that.

[2035] That is, there's no more definitive ending.

[2036] This is an insult to him to have him at number 10 and have Gagard at number eight.

[2037] The only thing you can do with these riders, because it's basically a popularity contest, right?

[2038] Every guy keeps wearing some popularity contests, but the champs, you can't deny it, right?

[2039] The champ in one and two, it's kind of, there's no honey dick in there.

[2040] Well, do you see when Brazilian writer put fucking notorious MMA?

[2041] He put him four notches lower after he knocked out Aldo.

[2042] Yeah, Connor.

[2043] Yeah.

[2044] How crazy is that?

[2045] How the fuck could you do that?

[2046] Well, I don't know.

[2047] But does anyone take these serious?

[2048] But that's why we...

[2049] But how could you do that?

[2050] I mean, you might not like Connor.

[2051] You might think that Connor's a brash guy and he insulted your champion.

[2052] and he insulted your country and blah, blah, blah, and then he smashes him with one punch in 13 seconds.

[2053] You're just not professional.

[2054] And also, you're fucked.

[2055] Like, no one can take your word for anything.

[2056] Yeah, I mean, how the fuck do you drop that guy down four points with a perfect performance?

[2057] Well, I think for the fans, it's like, oh, check it out.

[2058] Six versus 10.

[2059] Like, it makes the more mainstream, like, oh, look at six versus ten.

[2060] That's the number six, yeah, and the word verse number 10.

[2061] But you can't remember when they're going to do Reebok based off rankings?

[2062] And even the fighter's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[2063] Those rankings.

[2064] And then even Dana was like, yeah, that's some bullshit.

[2065] Yeah.

[2066] Anderson versus Uriot Hall is going to be very interesting.

[2067] That's in Brazil, brother.

[2068] That's in May. That Brazil card's a motherfucker.

[2069] It is stacked.

[2070] I heard the promo on it.

[2071] It's sick, too.

[2072] It's just a bunch of Brazilians beating people up.

[2073] That's an intense card, man. That's a very intense card.

[2074] Look at this.

[2075] I forgot about Ovalim -Rla -Lovsky versus Overeem.

[2076] Oh, good Lord.

[2077] Yeah, look at that Brazil card.

[2078] Oh, shit.

[2079] Cyborg.

[2080] Leslie Smith.

[2081] She deserves some sort of award right fucking now.

[2082] I know.

[2083] She's fighting cybor.

[2084] She's going to rip your face off.

[2085] What courage.

[2086] Why they have cyborg no picture on the left, but a picture of them are.

[2087] They're not ready for it.

[2088] They're not ready for it.

[2089] They're not even ready.

[2090] Go back to the other card.

[2091] When the Orlovsky fight, what card was on?

[2092] God, that card was the Arlowski fight on?

[2093] That's a F .S .1.

[2094] That's an interesting fight, man. Whenever I count Orlovsky out, it comes back and wins again.

[2095] It's like the Terminator.

[2096] How many times has he been stopped?

[2097] It's an insane number now.

[2098] It's like a very high number.

[2099] He's been stopped at a gang at times.

[2100] We don't fight as long as he does and not, especially at heavyweight not get stopped.

[2101] Look at how many times it's Overeign been stopped?

[2102] Dude, look at that fight.

[2103] I've seen Overeign over him get flatline.

[2104] Look at Albert Tumenoff versus Gunner Nelson.

[2105] That's a great fight.

[2106] Ooh, that's a good fight.

[2107] Tuminoff is a motherfucker man. Damn, Struve back.

[2108] Bigfoot Silva.

[2109] Bigfoot needs to figure it out.

[2110] Now that they have this drug testing, it's tough.

[2111] man yeah yeah it's hard out there for a pimp there's a heavyweight see a lot of guys get stopped that's part of the game who else is on uh this weekend go back to this weekend's card that that Brazil car is ridiculous leslie smith with that salty record eight and six sign up to fight cyborg i wonder how cyborg's going to deal with the 140 cut her first time dropping on one forty bitches faces off i think i think everyone should fucking run every girl in the division is like fuck.

[2112] Well, I hope they give her a 145 pound division.

[2113] I think she deserves it.

[2114] They've had that division in Victa.

[2115] It's an established division.

[2116] There's plenty of girls out there that'll fight at 145.

[2117] And that way she's not dying trying to make the weight.

[2118] She's a big girl, man. She's a big girl.

[2119] The thing is how many big girls are there?

[2120] Like, is it sustainable?

[2121] Let's find out.

[2122] Let's find out.

[2123] Can you do that though?

[2124] Or Gina Carrano did it in Strike Force.

[2125] I mean, that was the whole thing.

[2126] Or Elite XC.

[2127] Right?

[2128] Was it Strike Force?

[2129] Elite XC.

[2130] Is the Elite XC?

[2131] However.

[2132] That was her whole thing.

[2133] She was fighting 145.

[2134] Joe, look at my face.

[2135] I'm looking at your face.

[2136] You can build, you can build a division around Gina Krono and she looks like that.

[2137] You can build a division around Cyborg when she's smashing chicks.

[2138] You can.

[2139] I firmly believe you can build a division around Cyborg.

[2140] No, you can't.

[2141] If she's Mike Tyson, every little girl she runs into, you can't do it.

[2142] You can do it.

[2143] You can do it.

[2144] And you have her keep talking shit to everybody at 135.

[2145] It'll come out to me if I mean.

[2146] No one's doing that.

[2147] No one's like, oh, I'll do it.

[2148] Yeah.

[2149] Come on.

[2150] You box tattoo.

[2151] Ah.

[2152] Come on, dude.

[2153] She's a monster.

[2154] I like it.

[2155] Fuck, yeah, she's a monster.

[2156] I like, I like giving her a shot at the 145 pound title.

[2157] Make her, you want to have her fight this fight?

[2158] She's going to fight Leslie Smith.

[2159] Normally fights at 135.

[2160] You may get a catchway fight because Leslie is brave enough to take that challenge.

[2161] But then create a 145.

[2162] Take some of them Invicta Girl.

[2163] I disagree, Joe.

[2164] I think you...

[2165] But what do you do with her then?

[2166] You make her fight at 140.

[2167] We don't even know how well her body's going to handle it.

[2168] Let's say, all right, let's say she does decent, though, but all your superstars at 135.

[2169] So then you just do these super fight, a 140, where Misha could be a champ at 135 or 140.

[2170] Right.

[2171] And you have this monster at 140, but at least she's fighting Misha Tate and getting that coverage of Ronda Rousey or Holly home.

[2172] Right.

[2173] But if you do 145, okay, now we've got to find 145 badasses at 145 girls.

[2174] Well, the real interesting fight at 140 is Holly, whose fought as high as, I want to say she fought at like 150 before.

[2175] And boxing.

[2176] You're right.

[2177] I went 50.

[2178] I thought it was like 152.

[2179] So that would be the fight.

[2180] Because first of all, she was without a doubt the most experienced striker in all of the UFC.

[2181] It's women's divisions as far as boxing competition, NMA competition, and kickboxing.

[2182] I mean, she's a 19 -time boxing champion.

[2183] She's won kickboxing titles and she won the UFC crown.

[2184] I think she's the only female in the UFC who can beat Cyborg.

[2185] See, that would be a fan's fascinating fight because she's.

[2186] She's got that style of, like, counterstriking and moving away and almost a karate base with a lot of athleticism and footwork.

[2187] And Cyborg is just a destroyer.

[2188] But what happens when you go forward on Holly?

[2189] You get fucking murked.

[2190] So a girl like Cyborg coming forward is Taylor Made for Holly.

[2191] All these other girls, enjoy that.

[2192] Maybe.

[2193] Enjoy Frank the Tank Brazilian.

[2194] I just don't know.

[2195] I mean, she's bigger and stronger.

[2196] It's going to be.

[2197] And she can take a punishment.

[2198] She took a lot of punishment.

[2199] Do you see the Jorina Barge fight?

[2200] in lion fight?

[2201] I did not.

[2202] She fought Shorina.

[2203] Oh, I did.

[2204] Yeah, yeah.

[2205] That guy was a fucking monster.

[2206] She lost.

[2207] Cyborg lost by decision.

[2208] Or did she get TKOed?

[2209] No, she lost by decision, but she got punted in the face.

[2210] She got teeped in the face.

[2211] Barge is no joke, man. She's one of the best Muay fighters on the planet.

[2212] World champion.

[2213] She's so slick.

[2214] Her style is so good.

[2215] And, you know, she has none of the physical attributes that Cyborg has.

[2216] Cyborg's just so strong and so powerful.

[2217] Again, I think it's tailor -made for Holly.

[2218] Any other girl is full.

[2219] Fuck.

[2220] I would like to see it.

[2221] I'll tell you that.

[2222] Any other girls getting her titty's ripped off?

[2223] I just, I don't want to see, this is what I don't want to see.

[2224] I don't want to see cyborg fight diminish so much from the weight cut that we don't get to see the real cyborg.

[2225] I don't think you're beginning off draw to create an entire division for and revamp and try, because we're trying to build up 115, 125, right?

[2226] I think there is.

[2227] I think if anybody's going to do it, it's going to be a woman who knocks women out.

[2228] I think anybody's going to bring light to the division.

[2229] It's going to be someone like cyborg.

[2230] She's just not young, man. If she's like a young prospect, I think you invest in it.

[2231] It doesn't have to be.

[2232] The level that she's at in comparison to the level the other girls are at is very, she's very high.

[2233] The only thing that would change is if one of those Muay chicks started looking at Cyborg and went, oh, really?

[2234] Oh, okay.

[2235] Yeah, that'd be sick.

[2236] Okay.

[2237] Okay.

[2238] Well, this is, you know, she's not going to take you down, most likely.

[2239] She's going to try to stand with you.

[2240] Yeah.

[2241] And if these girls, like, really concentrated on the grappling and they really concentrate, you know, six -month sprawl training.

[2242] Yeah.

[2243] We're years out from that.

[2244] Well, maybe.

[2245] You got to invest.

[2246] If you're going to do it, you got to invest in that whole train.

[2247] But look at a girl like Tiff Time Bomb, right?

[2248] She's starting M .M .A. now.

[2249] You know that?

[2250] She's trained for M. Yeah.

[2251] Well, if, you know, during her prime, like Miriam Nakaboto, like someone along those lines, one of the really high -level female Muay champions, they would be Merkin chicks in MMA.

[2252] If they could just keep the fight standing, there's levels out there, and there's levels of striking that we just really haven't seen in the UFC.

[2253] And that's one with some of the women fighters.

[2254] but I think that's what we saw in the Barge fight with Cyborg we saw that super super high level moitai against the marauding style of Cyborg and so I watched that fight and I said two things I said one amazed that Cyborg has the guts to take that fight because it's a dangerous fight nobody wanted to fight Barge for like three fucking years she couldn't get a fight and then how about the fact that Cyborg takes tremendous punishment and keeps going after I was thinking how many other people in this division would fight this girl like that just Holly and keep getting knocked down, keep jumping back up and attacking.

[2255] I agree.

[2256] Not a lot of female MMA fighters would have been able to even stand in there.

[2257] That's what I say, only holly.

[2258] With her striking capability.

[2259] She's literally the only one.

[2260] Every other girl would, her head would have been kicked into the third.

[2261] And, of course, you know, J -check, but she's a small.

[2262] True, but she's too small.

[2263] Yeah.

[2264] Yeah, man. I think the 45 -pound division, man, it could open it up.

[2265] Women only having two division, I think, is weak.

[2266] What takes time, though, right?

[2267] Right, but this is the time.

[2268] Start the 45.

[2269] This is the inaugural fight, right?

[2270] I'm not mad at it.

[2271] Cyborg goes out, puts on a show against Leslie Smith.

[2272] Knocks her face off.

[2273] Or doesn't.

[2274] Who knows, man?

[2275] Well, she loses.

[2276] You don't have a division.

[2277] But if she does, if she wins, right?

[2278] Boom.

[2279] You got a cyborg fighting someone legit for the championship.

[2280] Marlos Coon comes over from Invicta, right?

[2281] She's Invictor, right?

[2282] Yeah.

[2283] 145.

[2284] Or is she Bellator now?

[2285] Oh, she's Bellator.

[2286] That's right.

[2287] She is Bellator.

[2288] Her last fight is Belto.

[2289] They scooped her up.

[2290] But I don't think you can do that.

[2291] I think you have to.

[2292] You have to do a super fight with Misha or Holly.

[2293] Do you have to do a super fight with Misha or Holly to create the buzz around cyborg?

[2294] Because the average friend's like, who the fuck is this girl ripping girls' faces?

[2295] Here's another fight this weekend that nobody is talking about.

[2296] Whitaker and Natal.

[2297] That's your fight of the night.

[2298] Oh, Robert Whitaker, man, looked sensational in his last fight against Uriah Hall.

[2299] I was like, holy shit, this kid is throwing.

[2300] That's your fight of the night.

[2301] He's a dangerous guy.

[2302] Interesting how, what a change has been for him going up.

[2303] to 185 he just looks so much healthier way more powerful way more powerful way more confident way more aggressive it just doesn't feel as diminished i think he was just too big for 170 and natal's a beast natal's fun to watch man very dangerous man real good juxtu to the win yeah henzhou gracie guy dude rodriguez though that's your young buck you're up and comer young bug yair yeah yeah iyaa rodriguez and andrew philly that's another fucking badass fight who whee that's a very good fight i love watching rodriguez guess fight man yeah he's fun he's wild dude he's wild that guy throws he ever seen him train it's hilarious uh well he was at jacksons for a little bit right his videos there's videos of him hitting pads dude he does like 360 roundhouse kick 360 wheel kick jumping front kick round kick side kick i mean the way he mixes shit up is like who does that in pad work but he he does it like he fights have you see yeah have you seen him go for like knee bars and leg locks he fucking like flips to him Dude, that's the future, man. His ground game is no joke.

[2304] His ground game is very good.

[2305] He's got everything going for him.

[2306] He's wild, he's unpredictable, he's young, he's brash.

[2307] Damn, Andre.

[2308] He threw up when I was interviewing him.

[2309] He threw up.

[2310] He's the only guy I've ever talked to, like in the middle of talking to him.

[2311] He threw up in his shirt a little bit, and then he threw up on the ground.

[2312] Damn, that's that cardio son.

[2313] We had a crazy fight.

[2314] It was a wild -ass fight.

[2315] So that's a good fight.

[2316] It's a good fight, man. It'll be a fun card.

[2317] Again, Conner's taking the spotlight a little bit.

[2318] Yeah, well, he definitely is.

[2319] And that's just to be expected.

[2320] He's, I mean, he's the biggest star in the game right now.

[2321] And I hope they worked that out for UFC 200.

[2322] It would be even better story if they worked it out.

[2323] I bet you they do.

[2324] Guarantee they do.

[2325] I would almost guarantee they do.

[2326] Or they do a GSP Nate Diaz fight.

[2327] Then we got honey -dicked.

[2328] And then something smells fishy.

[2329] Something smells fishy?

[2330] For sure.

[2331] If GSP's like, what?

[2332] Hey, I've been training.

[2333] What if they come with the cash?

[2334] They come with that fucking Reebok makeup money.

[2335] I bet you, I bet you, a Reebok makeup money.

[2336] Here's a set of Reebok pumps in six million.

[2337] There you go.

[2338] Push it in.

[2339] Push it in.

[2340] We're all in for GSP for 2000.

[2341] I think, I bet they figure it out.

[2342] Yeah.

[2343] I bet you Conner ends up fighting a UFC 200.

[2344] That's what I believe in, and I think Dana and the UFC brass is going to figure it out.

[2345] I think GSP Nate Diaz takes its place, and they use it as a negotiating tool because the pay -per -view numbers are bigger than any of the Connor fights because the UFC has, in fact, grown through their strategy.

[2346] See, I don't think the numbers beat Connors.

[2347] What if they do?

[2348] Well, then you get, and then Conner's dealt the wrong hand.

[2349] You're like, ooh, Connor fucked up.

[2350] Yeah, Connor fucked up.

[2351] I don't think it beats his numbers, though.

[2352] So OSP's best chance for this weekend, he's got a win by knockout.

[2353] First round.

[2354] You think so?

[2355] Yeah, that first round, he's going to have to fucking caution in the win.

[2356] If he tries to sit there and fight, you know, like on the outside and out technique, John Jones, you're going to get fucked up.

[2357] It's going to be interesting to see John with such a long layoff.

[2358] too with a lot of pressure on them.

[2359] You want me?

[2360] This is what I think's going to happen.

[2361] It's just me speculating.

[2362] I think, and I've trained with both of them.

[2363] I think John will, they'll feel each other out early on.

[2364] John's going to get a hold of them, trip them down the ground, crucify him, and T .K. on them with elbows.

[2365] Wow.

[2366] Wow.

[2367] If I had to bet on, I bet John finished them on the ground.

[2368] Really?

[2369] Mm -hmm.

[2370] All right.

[2371] You heard it here, folks.

[2372] This weekend, UFC 197, brenshaw, fighter and the kid .com.

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[2374] T -fat K3D, that's the new one.

[2375] Yeah, that's the new one.

[2376] The Kid 3D, your videos that you guys are doing.

[2377] How is that?

[2378] Is that fun?

[2379] The best.

[2380] Go watch it, you fucks.

[2381] Yeah.

[2382] All right, I'll be back in a little bit with another one.

[2383] That's right.

[2384] You're a beast, man. Love you, brother.

[2385] Dan Alberg.

[2386] See you soon.