#2019 - Tim Dillon

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[3] Tim.

[4] Joe Rogan, thank you for having me. Always good to see you.

[5] Good to be here.

[6] You escaped from L .A. before the massive strike.

[7] Yeah, well, there was a, I think it didn't affect flights as much as I thought, but it was 11 ,000 city workers decided to strike.

[8] And a lot of those are, but air traffic controllers are federal.

[9] But the baggage claims all screwed up.

[10] They canceled a bunch of stuff I don't know It's 11 ,000 city workers I don't know what they're What you know It's I think it's a bunch of different Groups of them that want stuff Yeah is there like specific demands Like is it pay increase Maybe they want to stop getting killed by the homeless Maybe it's very reasonable Maybe it has nothing to do with money And they're like we just want to stop being like People flinging their excrement at us While we're cleaning the park Could be Yeah I don't know what it is I don't know what the demands are.

[11] Maybe they're scared they're going to be replaced by AI, like the actors and writers.

[12] They might be.

[13] Who knows?

[14] You know what the sketchiest thing that I saw about the whole actor -writer thing was that for background players, when people work on a film, they wanted access to their image forever.

[15] Right.

[16] So they would take you and make a digital version of you.

[17] Yeah.

[18] So if you're like a background guy, instead of paying background people to hang around into some crowd scene, they will now just fill it in.

[19] with you.

[20] So the same background people, which is like one of the nuttiest fucking like fringe theories of any catastrophe is that you have these, these actors.

[21] Right.

[22] Like what do they call them?

[23] Crisis actors.

[24] Crisis actors, right.

[25] Right.

[26] Where these people are hired by the federal government.

[27] And they appear in like multiple different scenarios where they say that something happened to them and the shooter entered into the building.

[28] Yeah.

[29] Yeah.

[30] Well, they're striking next, the crisis actors.

[31] They're going to go, I am worried that my likeness will be used as Sandy Hook in perpetuity without my.

[32] Yeah, it's weird.

[33] It's weird because it doesn't seem like there's a way to prevent it, you know?

[34] Because digital use of your imagery.

[35] Well, everybody's, every business in the world is using AI, right?

[36] Yeah.

[37] You know, these movie studios and, you know, streamers spent a lot of money in this.

[38] investing in AI technology during the pandemic.

[39] A lot of in -house AI projects.

[40] And, you know, I imagine that they're going to utilize that technology to some degree.

[41] I agree, though, that it's creepy and it will eliminate a lot of jobs.

[42] And if there's a way to stop them, great, but is there?

[43] There's no way.

[44] There doesn't seem to be a way.

[45] No, that train is rolling.

[46] And there's a lot of track in front of it, and it has insane momentum.

[47] and you're not going to put your hand out and stop it.

[48] Yeah.

[49] You might mitigate the effects.

[50] Maybe the government would pass like a loss.

[51] And listen, you can't replace more than 10 % of your workforce with AI over the next five years.

[52] I don't know if that would even be a feasible thing to do.

[53] But maybe they could do something like that.

[54] The problem is, if you have a business and the business can be better run by AI, do you have a responsibility to hire human beings to do a lesser job?

[55] Great question.

[56] It's a real good question.

[57] Great, more.

[58] And if you listen to these, like, Drake songs that they're coming out with AI, so Eminem song that just came out with, they're good.

[59] Yeah.

[60] They're good.

[61] I was just having a conversation with Post Malone about it.

[62] Because, you know, Post uses, like, auto tune.

[63] But he writes all his own songs, you know, and he performs all its own songs.

[64] And I think his fans want to know that's him singing a song.

[65] They would probably still enjoy a fake.

[66] post Malone song but dude I saw him live last night when you see these people singing along with him it's something really powerful man yeah it's not just like a regular concert they fucking love that dude well look at the Taylor Swift thing which I feel very left out of because I'm the only person that has not seen it and I don't I don't get it like she's clearly talented and God bless I just don't have that thing where you're not a girl that's all it is But the dudes are there, too.

[67] Yeah, Dave Portner loves it.

[68] They all, a lot of people love it.

[69] And I don't get it.

[70] And I just, and I don't begrudge anyone else getting it.

[71] It's just not.

[72] But maybe if you go to one live, you'll get it.

[73] Yeah.

[74] Because it's supposed to be a spectacular show.

[75] Sure.

[76] Like tons of dancers and visuals.

[77] Great.

[78] Yeah, I just, that's phenomenal.

[79] I grew up listening to people like Tina Turner and Janice Joplin.

[80] Yeah.

[81] So to me, it's like Taylor Spitz.

[82] It's different.

[83] It's different.

[84] That's all I'm going to say.

[85] I don't want to be attacked.

[86] I don't want people following me. It's just, it's just, it's, you know what I mean?

[87] It's like, this is like the same thing about the Barbie movie.

[88] Yeah.

[89] Maybe it's not for you.

[90] That's right.

[91] And if it's not for you and you're going and giving this scathing review of something that's clearly not for you.

[92] Right.

[93] Look, I get it if that's your business.

[94] You're in the culture war business.

[95] You're in the critique business.

[96] Yeah.

[97] You're in the reaction video business.

[98] Right.

[99] I get it.

[100] Right.

[101] I get it.

[102] But just as like a radical.

[103] person yeah like imagine being mad that people like Taylor Swift no there's no anger I would I actually like most cultural things I wish I got it my life would be easier if I got like I would be more included I'll be able to participate in conversations easier yeah um I want to be in all these things that people like that I can't get into I want to be in the Barbie movie is an interesting one yeah because it is clearly a movie that's made for girls and everybody else but also it's a Barbie movie Barbie's appealed to girls it's like saying commando was not just for guys right you know there's a few people on the margins that will like it right there's a few lesbians that go to see Commando and they're very into it few gay men really love Barbie but the vast majority it is gender specific yes yeah and there's like a tremendous amount of outrage about that movie and when I went to see it Apparently, people are upset at my reaction to it.

[104] Why?

[105] Because I was genuinely surprised.

[106] I didn't want to be upset at the movie.

[107] Right.

[108] Because it's just, what they're mad about is talking about the patriarchy.

[109] But first of all, it's a fucking parody movie.

[110] Right.

[111] It's a movie about a doll who comes to life.

[112] And you have a doll who lives in that world where the doll's the most important thing.

[113] It's all about Barbie and Barbie's world.

[114] Of course, the men would be superficial.

[115] Ken is superficial.

[116] Right.

[117] That's the plot.

[118] That's the whole thing.

[119] How else are you going to make a problem?

[120] Barbie movie where Barbie comes to life I mean it's a great juxtaposition like seeing the difference between the world of living human beings where men are running everything and the world of Barbie world where the Barbies are the Supreme Court and they all wear bikinis on the Supreme Court That's funny.

[121] It's funny.

[122] That's funny.

[123] It's a funny movie man. Yeah.

[124] It's like I just don't understand why people would get so upset at this movie that's just not made for them.

[125] Well because it's how you said it it's how you make money.

[126] Yeah.

[127] But it's like this culture war aspect of it.

[128] It's like, come on, people.

[129] Well, there's, I think, an idea that, you know, that everything that's out right now, there's political implications to everything.

[130] Everything.

[131] And that's kind of exhausting, right?

[132] It's tiring, right?

[133] Figuring out if your yogurt is woke.

[134] Like, going through your grocery, opening your refrigerator and going, what's woke is the mustard woke?

[135] It's crazy.

[136] And I think people are a little sick of it.

[137] And I think it's a little, first of all the food's poison.

[138] Let's start there.

[139] That should make more sense.

[140] It should be the barbecue sauce is liquid sugar poison, not does it want trans people, you know, to fucking take their tits out at the White House.

[141] It's food and it shouldn't, you know, but it's a level of wild that, you know, I don't think people were prepared for it.

[142] I think Bud Light made a little bit of a mess, right?

[143] Yeah.

[144] They put Dylan Mulvaney out there.

[145] And then I think people, you know, were kind of like, hey, what's going on?

[146] And then it just became a firestorm.

[147] And then, like, everything else is, like, contagion.

[148] Yeah.

[149] So it spreads now.

[150] And now it's like, well, what is Chick -fil -A doing?

[151] Are they doing stuff that they shouldn't be doing?

[152] Yeah.

[153] It's kind of, it's just getting higher.

[154] Conservatives are trying to find fake conservatives.

[155] Yes.

[156] Like, they're engaging in the same sort of behavioral that they accuse liberals doing of these liberal witch hunts.

[157] Yes.

[158] They're doing it with conservatives.

[159] Like, you could never be woke enough.

[160] You could never be conservative enough.

[161] Some of them, like, want to call people closet liberals.

[162] Or, you know that term right?

[163] know.

[164] Yeah.

[165] Republican in name only.

[166] Yeah, for sure.

[167] The tribal war between human beings that seemingly will always exist.

[168] It'll never end.

[169] It's so fascinating how that mindset just takes new forms, you know, and has the same behavior, the thing that it hated decades earlier, like on the left, like this want for war in Ukraine, this trust in the military industrial complex in Ukraine.

[170] Like, what happened to you guys?

[171] Yeah.

[172] Like, you guys are at totally different thing like no one's discussing every argument made against rightly the iraq war and the afghanistan war like what's the plan yes we're going to be in a quagmire you know the money would be better used at home all of those arguments were used you know at nauseam by people on the left and they were right and now if you bring up any of those arguments about the ukraine you're called heartless it's weird you're called a putan apologist it's weird so it's weird best take on it was Trump right when he was doing that what is her name Caitlin Collins is that what her name is the journalist that was asking him and she was kind of like trying to say in a gotcha way right who you want to win you want Ukraine to win this war and he said I just want people to stop dying and that is somehow controversial yeah and that's because it's coming from him right anything that he says no matter how logical it is people are going to attack 100 and and that was a very logical statement and I just want people to stop dying.

[173] By the way, that's the appropriate response to truly, really, every war out there, is that there's been no war that really hasn't been won with some type of agreement, treaty, compromise, right?

[174] Most wars have some type of endgame where you can go, okay, we're going to split up territory, we've got to start a provisional government, whatever it is.

[175] Now, this might be more difficult to do that, but at the end of the day, unending conflict only hurts the people in those countries fighting the wars and becoming victims of the wars.

[176] They don't hurt the people here making a lot of money.

[177] It's just so sketchy whenever money gets involved.

[178] Yes.

[179] Whenever you're realizing that people have an incentive to keep this rolling to the tune of who knows how many billions of dollars so far.

[180] How much has been spent on that war so far?

[181] Oh my God.

[182] I mean, it's over a trillion probably.

[183] You know, we spent a lot of money.

[184] Well, what got me interested, what was why I started.

[185] to read about it and, you know, was like, overnight, overnight, the worst people in the world were absolutely in love with the Ukraine, like the people that, you know, again, the pro -Iraq war, pro -Quantanamo Bay, pro -torture, pro, you know, preemptive war, they all were like very much across the board the idea that we have to support the Ukraine for as long as it takes and give them whatever it takes.

[186] And I felt like that was crazy because we've seen that in the past, it bite us in the ass a lot of different places.

[187] And they all, I mean, these are like the worst people in the way.

[188] The people of Beverly Hills who are like make valets cry, who are like, get my fucking car, like those people.

[189] They all had Ukrainian flags on the outside of their house.

[190] But they didn't care about Yemen.

[191] They don't care about what goes on in the Middle East in terms of like the Palestinians or you know what's happening over there they don't care about a lot of issues and a lot of places but they seem to really believe that we had to arm the Ukraine and engage in kind of this proxy war with Russia for an unending period of time no matter how dangerous it got and Russia is a country with a lot of nuclear weapons so I mean what is the American national interest in that continued policy?

[192] I don't know.

[193] Go to any city in America, right?

[194] And you see a lot of problems.

[195] Homelessness, drug addiction, all of the money we're sending to the Ukraine probably could be used here.

[196] Right.

[197] And there was a long period where everybody knew that there should be something done to clean up the places that got hit by the riots, to deal with some of the homeless encampments.

[198] There should be a way where reasonable people can come to some solution.

[199] We need funding to fix these things.

[200] But the fact they just all of a sudden have trillions of dollars.

[201] Yeah.

[202] For this.

[203] Right.

[204] It's like, where was all that money?

[205] Like, why, what about investing in cities?

[206] Well, in the beginning it was we want peace and Ukraine was invaded by Russia.

[207] And I understand, you know, supporting Ukraine to a degree.

[208] But now we're talking about the only acceptable outcome is regime change in Russia.

[209] All right.

[210] And then there was this guy, this hot dog warlord, this guy who sold hot dogs and then was chopping people's heads off, okay?

[211] He did this, like, fake coup that didn't work, and everybody in our media was like, he's going to be great.

[212] Let's get rid of Putin, who, you know, his problems is false notwithstanding, and he's a murderer, he's done crazy things, but we've lived with him for 20 years in relative peace, meaning like, we've never had a war with him, right?

[213] He's done things in his region, but he was the first leader after 9 -11, across, and say, you know, like, hey, I'm sorry about that, da -da -da -da -da.

[214] Whatever the case may be, we were ready to just.

[215] get rid of him and throwing a dude who hours before was lobbing people's heads off in the street.

[216] Wild.

[217] So that to me is like you start looking at foreign policy going, does anyone care about anything?

[218] Like to anybody, like this guy's a mass murderer.

[219] He's running the Wagner group, which is like, you know, this group of like prisoners, ex -prisoners that he recruited from Soviet prisons, from Russian prison.

[220] and these are like murderers and rapists he's going let's go to the Ukraine and kill everybody and then everybody's like no he'd be great doesn't make it doesn't make too much sense to me and then that doesn't happen and everyone goes what the crazy thing is that it's been adopted wholesale by the left the people that are always the most skeptical about war well were but I mean if you look at a lot of wars I guess in history a lot of them have been started by Democrats it seems like the party in power likes war Seems like if you're the party in power in this country, you do like a war.

[221] With the exception of Trump, and I know people get mad when I say this, but Trump wasn't in a ton of wars.

[222] I mean, he did do some drone strikes.

[223] He did things, but, you know, the party in power...

[224] He died like a dog.

[225] Right, right.

[226] The party and power, they seem to like war.

[227] And I get it.

[228] I would too.

[229] I would too because it gives you something to talk about and do.

[230] Well, Trump was the first guy that I ever saw who was a sitting president who openly admitted that the military industrial complex wants you to go to war.

[231] Yeah.

[232] Like when Eisenhower was resigning, he said it, but Trump actually said that.

[233] He said it.

[234] In an interview, I think it was with Steve Hilton on Fox.

[235] Yeah.

[236] Which is just a wild thing to hear, that they might be influenced to be more inclined to get, not wars when they're necessary, but like wars that they can justify for financial reasons.

[237] And listen, we should treat the people that serve the military with the respect of being honest with them about what their mission is, right?

[238] and why they're somewhere.

[239] If you're going to make the ultimate sacrifice for America, you're going to be make that sacrifice.

[240] You're going to put yourself in harm's way.

[241] You might die.

[242] You have a family and kids.

[243] They're not getting paid millions of dollars.

[244] We're not making them famous.

[245] They're not, you know what I mean?

[246] Like, you know, we should treat them with the respect of like the things they do should be vital and necessary for our security.

[247] They shouldn't just be out there making people money.

[248] Right.

[249] exactly which is why when I run the governor when I run for governor of California which I should you could probably win I actually thought about it you know maybe not seriously but you know maybe I said why not why not you would really get a lot of votes there's something about it because you were serious about it I'm I might be serious about it because like I I the only thing that's going to be against me is the hours and hours I have of me talking that's be tough because people are going to be able to isolate.

[250] Sure.

[251] Lots of things I've said and they're going to go, hey, this is crazy.

[252] And I also might get bored with a job in a week and quit.

[253] That's the problem.

[254] That's the problem.

[255] I might just book like a comedy club in Des Moines.

[256] Yeah, it's nowhere good.

[257] And I might just leave and go, this is kind of boring.

[258] Because I don't think, you know, governing, running seems great.

[259] Winning is great.

[260] Governing seems terrible.

[261] It doesn't seem like it's totally doable.

[262] That's right.

[263] It seems like whatever changes you make.

[264] First of all, imagine you're a guy or a gal or a non -binary person.

[265] Of course.

[266] You have to run in and fix all of the chaos.

[267] You have to deal with everything involving foreign policy.

[268] You're responsible for everything involving infrastructure, transportation, anything financial.

[269] You're responsible for all the failures.

[270] You get very little credit for the success.

[271] They'll just name the innovators in each field that did this.

[272] And it is a thankless job.

[273] And that's why they steal.

[274] That is why they steal.

[275] You got to give it to them.

[276] The reason Pelosi and them steal is because she's like, listen, you motherfuckers didn't care about the student lunch program we did.

[277] No one reported on that.

[278] So the reality is we're going to have to take a little off the top.

[279] Do you think that's what it is?

[280] That's probably what it is.

[281] I think they just get used to that job.

[282] That grift?

[283] Yeah.

[284] I think people, and I think that's how people, who are relatively good people become politicians and get tainted by it.

[285] Right.

[286] I think when you get inside the machine and you realize that influence has a massive effect on all sorts of decisions that get made and that there's some sort of weird loophole that allows you to know about laws that are going to be passed in advance and then buy stock and accordingly.

[287] Right.

[288] In accordance, rather, to what you know.

[289] And it's not insider trading.

[290] It's not illegal.

[291] It should be.

[292] And they all do it.

[293] Like, if you look at the like the congressman, right and left, they're all.

[294] But it's got to be the, it's got to suck to be the guy who goes to Washington who doesn't do it.

[295] Yeah.

[296] You got to, you got to suck so much.

[297] Like, if you get there and you're from some shit state, right, Delaware, something, and you get there.

[298] And, like, you're going to ruin the party.

[299] You're going to blow the whistle.

[300] Like, everybody's like, dude, this is how we make our money.

[301] Right.

[302] And you're the guy fucking that up.

[303] That's got to be a lot of pressure.

[304] They would kill you.

[305] It's like New York City cops.

[306] That's right.

[307] Yeah.

[308] It's like that movie, the 7 -5.

[309] Yeah.

[310] You know, first day on the job is he sees a guy get thrown out of a window.

[311] Like he jumped, right?

[312] And they're like, yeah, definitely jumped.

[313] You guys just killed somebody.

[314] Yeah.

[315] Yeah, I guess there's so much pressure because you don't want to be on the outs with everybody.

[316] Yeah, especially when you are involved in this business.

[317] It's very competitive, right?

[318] You're getting elected all the time.

[319] You're competing with other people.

[320] You're trying to get your name out there and you're in this world where all these people that are in this world are doing this thing.

[321] You're going to do that thing too probably.

[322] You'd have to be like, or you'd have to be very, very.

[323] vocal against it and that would be a real problem.

[324] Or you're going to be a guy like Bernie Sanders who like gets nothing done.

[325] People just like him.

[326] Yeah.

[327] He's liked but he gets nothing done.

[328] He's from Vermont.

[329] He's like, I'm cool.

[330] I believe in shit.

[331] Everybody's like, good for you.

[332] And then nothing happened.

[333] I think it would have been an interesting one -term president.

[334] Yeah.

[335] It would have been very interesting.

[336] It would have been very interesting if there was no shenanigans, right?

[337] If the DNC didn't rig the primary.

[338] Right.

[339] Because they kind of did, right?

[340] I don't know how they did it, but this is something that, what's that woman's name, who wrote that book, Donna.

[341] Brazil?

[342] Donna Brazil.

[343] Yeah.

[344] She talked about it.

[345] And she talked about being terrified after Seth Rich got murdered.

[346] Right.

[347] You know?

[348] She was terrified for her own life?

[349] Sure.

[350] Right.

[351] Look, like, just random violence.

[352] House of cause.

[353] Not murder, but random violence is common in D .C. DC is a right but also that probably wasn't probably wasn't random and that house of cards if you rewatch it I rewatched it it is probably pretty close to the way things happen I mean listen do they make it fun to watch absolutely I get when when everybody's being blackmailed and controlled and people disappear and die yeah that probably is close to the way it works probably real close probably real close yeah but then you think how else could it work right like it's weird to envision it's almost weirder to think of it not working like that in a weird way not to be too cynical about it but like like just imagining people showing up and like good faith debating each other and being like well i see your point and well i have a point like it feels like that's a total fantasy that would be great and i'd love that to happen that feels more of a fantasy than house of cards where they're like oh you don't want to vote on that bill take a look at that envelope and it's just some you and some chick you're fucking walking out of a restaurant that seems to be more the way it happens definitely more the way it happened in the past right and we know that so probably more likely it happens like that now right imagine being in any other business where when your friend drowns in front of your house everybody's like right any other business like if you're a comic like if you're a comic like if You came over my house and drowned.

[354] Right.

[355] No one would think I killed you.

[356] No one.

[357] They would just think you drowned.

[358] Absolutely.

[359] But if you're a politician, if I was a president.

[360] People would be very not shocked if I drowned.

[361] It would be, it would be a very, like, believable.

[362] You could drown me, and there would be marks around my neck.

[363] They'd be like, that fat idiot fell, choked himself and died.

[364] Like, it would be easy.

[365] Right.

[366] Yeah.

[367] Any of our friends, for the most part, not all of them.

[368] Pretty much everybody except for Alex Jones.

[369] Most people we know could die, and it would be a very believable story.

[370] Yes.

[371] Just some dumb thing they did or some, yeah.

[372] It does happen.

[373] But when a chef is on a pond outside of your house, by the way, when you're not there, like you're letting the chef use your estate when you're not there, doesn't that seem weird that the Obama's were like, oh, no, no, no, you go use it.

[374] He had that $11 million house we have a mortgage vineyard.

[375] You use it.

[376] Doesn't that seem odd?

[377] Well, if the house is that big, though, it probably has a guest house.

[378] If they were there, it makes sense.

[379] He's cooking for them.

[380] But weren't they on the island then?

[381] I don't know.

[382] I think they're saying they were on the island.

[383] The problem is we can't have access to the recordings, the 9 -11 calls, because you'll hear satanic sounds in the background.

[384] Yeah, yeah, right, right.

[385] You hear a scream.

[386] There's weird stuff with the police law.

[387] with that where they didn't they didn't fill out immediately oh really yeah I mean there's shady stuff but listen here's the reality if you're the Obama's and you can't kill someone you want what is the point they literally what is the point but imagine if you're the Obama's and your friend just fucking drowns yes I mean and you didn't have anything to do with it maybe that's unfortunate a reaction to some medication poison that you gave him Or maybe it's a medication that a lot of people took.

[388] And to me, I'm like, a lot of people near these people die.

[389] That's my only thing.

[390] Yeah.

[391] Like if you're like a dog walker for the Clintons or you're like a shed.

[392] Like if you're near either the Bush family, the Clinton, like a lot of these families of people that are with them, their Secret Service agent, they have accidents.

[393] They have accidents.

[394] They hear a lot of stuff.

[395] They overhear stuff.

[396] They're partied of things.

[397] They see things.

[398] And then a lot of them just, you know, they have accidents.

[399] Yeah.

[400] Whoopsies.

[401] Bye.

[402] All of a sudden, the guy's hanging from an extension cord and shoots himself in the chest with a shotgun.

[403] That seems, you know, unlikely.

[404] Where did they find the shotgun?

[405] How far away did they find it from his body?

[406] Some very unusual distance.

[407] I'd be so disappointed if we find out none of it's true.

[408] Oh, yeah.

[409] I would be so disappointed.

[410] If we find out that all of them died of natural causes, I would be so disappointed.

[411] When were there's like 50 people that have died?

[412] under suspicious circumstances.

[413] At least one of them.

[414] Right.

[415] It says the 12 -gauge shotgun was 30 feet from his body when he was found dead.

[416] Right.

[417] Well, he shot himself and then threw it.

[418] 30 feet is very far.

[419] That could be that...

[420] Here's a thing.

[421] If you are actually holding a shotgun and shooting it in your chest, there's not going to be any resistance on the other end.

[422] Right.

[423] So it's essentially like a rocket.

[424] So it's not...

[425] Because of the way you would have...

[426] to do it to shoot yourself in the chest with a shotgun.

[427] Right.

[428] It's possible.

[429] It is.

[430] Yeah, it's possible that it would go flying.

[431] And then it would fly out.

[432] Yeah, it would go flying.

[433] So maybe he was just super troubled and that is what he did.

[434] You just got to think about it if you're at that, if you occupy that level of society and somebody's threatening you, how do you deal with it?

[435] Yeah.

[436] If you have the, you know, whatever, you want to call it, the ambition, the ruthless, to get there.

[437] And somebody's trying to take that from you.

[438] Yeah.

[439] What do you do?

[440] How do you handle it?

[441] You try to blacken their name in the press.

[442] You try to besmirch them.

[443] And if that doesn't work, what do you do?

[444] Do you just say, okay, I guess we're just going to get taken down by a scandal?

[445] Or do you just say, hey, we got to take care of this?

[446] I think it really depends on who you are and what kind of accents to people you have.

[447] You know?

[448] I can't imagine anybody getting to that level of society.

[449] Right.

[450] And letting themselves get taken.

[451] down by someone far below them.

[452] Usually when those families get taken out, they're taken out by like an equal.

[453] Someone at their level, right?

[454] But when someone far below you that you could get rid of or, you know, it's like that guy outside of that restaurant in L .A. Austria Moza and Melrose and Highland whose car just went into a...

[455] Yeah.

[456] Things like that happened and of course, yeah, maybe he was drunk and just decided to go 150 miles away.

[457] You're talking about that journalist.

[458] Michael Hastings, yeah.

[459] Things like that happen and they're weird and you say to yourself like, did you piss the wrong person off?

[460] And he certainly did.

[461] Yeah.

[462] And then how do people at that level deal with it?

[463] It makes a lot of sense to me that people like that would use violence to deal with their enemies.

[464] Yeah.

[465] You know?

[466] Yeah.

[467] To silence their enemies forever.

[468] Like that makes sense to me. But maybe I'm too cynical and maybe I'm wrong.

[469] I don't know But it would make a lot of sense to me That they would There'd be a meeting And the people would meet And they'd go, yeah, we gotta take care of this We can't allow this to become a thing Yeah You know And that's how they've done it throughout history Right I mean that's what they did when they got rid of JFK That's what Lizzie should have done with those bitches But those bitches Who turned on her Because she was trying to help them.

[470] First of all, that's not even a character.

[471] Like, you don't get to be a fat backup dancer.

[472] That doesn't exist.

[473] It's not real.

[474] Lizzo made that category of person.

[475] She made it.

[476] And then they turned on her.

[477] That's crazy.

[478] She made it.

[479] What is she accused of?

[480] Fat shaming them, making them rehearse, making them stand up.

[481] That's what their version of fat shaming is.

[482] Making them stand up and walk onto the stage.

[483] Making them rehearse, taking them to a sex club in Amsterdam where the performers are shooting bananas out of their pussies because this is what happens and Lizzo's like forcing them to touch the nude performers and force one of them to eat a banana that came out of the vagina of a sex worker performer dancer in the sex club Lizzo makes a girl she's like eat the banana eat the banana and then the girl gets really angry at that but supposedly Lizzo was just abusing her power this is what they're all saying but I don't know if I buy that I think it's bitter people maybe that are angry because they all look like Lizzo this is what's going to drive them nuts they look exactly like her and she's worth 40 million and they're probably getting paid shit so they're in the background every night dancing and it ain't easy it's fun to be on that TV show that she had but then you have to do it every night they're icing their joints you know it's hard they're in the trailer it's fucking tough lizzo had to start getting on some of them going like you got to tone it down you know it's becoming a problem you know the weight is becoming a problem and then then lizzo's response where she's like i would never fire any of them because of their weight it's like what a weird statement they're dancers how fat can they get how fucking big can they get if i wanted to be a dancer for taylor swift And she came up to me and went, you're too fat to do this.

[484] I'd go, that makes sense.

[485] And I'd leave with some dignity.

[486] But these women, Lizzo has them on stage.

[487] She has them dancing.

[488] And then all of a sudden, you know, she's abusing or making them do weird shit.

[489] And they all are now suing her.

[490] And her streaming has slowed down big time.

[491] The ads.

[492] You know how it is.

[493] It's a big cancellation.

[494] So did she, so this show, were these girls dancers before they got on her?

[495] No, because you can't be a dancer at a certain, let's just be very honest here.

[496] They're not at the ballet.

[497] You know how the ballerinas are on the tippy toes?

[498] That's not happening.

[499] These women, it's a fetish dancing.

[500] These are larger women.

[501] And I don't mean like, well, I had a cheesecake.

[502] I mean like, these are big, big ladies and they're dancing because Lizzo's whole thing, Lizzo's like, I'm not getting enough attention just being.

[503] the fatty up front.

[504] I want everyone on stage to be fat.

[505] So I can get more praise.

[506] Because the media will be like, not only is she fat, everyone's fat.

[507] The whole stage looks like shit.

[508] How good of a person is she?

[509] That's what they want.

[510] I think that's what she wanted.

[511] She wanted, it wasn't enough that it was her.

[512] It had to be everybody.

[513] And that's what bitter in the ass.

[514] But the question was, these gals, how often did they have to dance?

[515] Was it like every night?

[516] How often was that show?

[517] Was it a Once a week show?

[518] What was it?

[519] I don't know.

[520] But they're on tour, so you'd figure when you're on a...

[521] They're on tour.

[522] Okay, so they're doing regular shows.

[523] Regular shows.

[524] Now, this is my question.

[525] When you're a big girl and you're not exercising, then all of a sudden someone hires you for a dance show because they want big girls.

[526] Right.

[527] And then you have to do that kind of shit every day.

[528] It's tough.

[529] Your body's not prepared for that.

[530] Your joints are weak.

[531] Very hard.

[532] Like, you could get really fucked up doing...

[533] It's like asking someone to go into like some crazy.

[534] cardiovascular workout right and they get mad at Lizzo because Lizzo doesn't have to do anything she just pulls out the flute can I see what it looked like can you show me what that show was like can you show us the big girls here come the big girls is the show but I think they're also angry at Lizzo because they're like we're dancing and rehearsing she doesn't have to rehearse Lizzo just kind of walks out on stage and sings her songs and does a little but then pulls out the flute these girls have to like dance through the whole thing so it's difficult it's hard it sounds hard It's not easy.

[535] Here's the TV show.

[536] It's hard for a dancer.

[537] Here we go.

[538] Okay, so there's Lizzo.

[539] It's on Amazon Prime Video.

[540] Welcome up, y 'all.

[541] For dancers to join me on my tour.

[542] Girls that look like me don't get representation.

[543] Time to pull up my sleeves and finding myself.

[544] Oh.

[545] Background dancer for Lizzo.

[546] It would just meet everything.

[547] You could tell how badly this was going to go, by the way.

[548] and how I approach dance.

[549] I'm realizing that I do deserve a spot on that stage.

[550] It's hard to love yourself in a world that doesn't love you bad.

[551] You are created, especially in your image for you to enjoy.

[552] You don't have to be light skin.

[553] You don't have to be skinny.

[554] You're just beautiful the way you are.

[555] I need to challenge myself and step outside my comfort zone.

[556] Now I'm going into competition.

[557] Some people are not at the same level that I am.

[558] I'm going to call you little sis.

[559] She's trying to demean me. She's not understanding how to read the room.

[560] you might not make it into the show.

[561] I see a lot of...

[562] Right.

[563] So what was that one that we just passed through?

[564] There was one that, like...

[565] Was that a transgender person?

[566] Yes, I believe that is a transgender person.

[567] Yeah, even in like a quick glance.

[568] Yes, it was a quick.

[569] That wasn't...

[570] I'll say they didn't do a great job at the, you know, fully going to the other gender there.

[571] You know what I mean?

[572] They kind of stopped.

[573] And that's fine.

[574] That everyone does a great job.

[575] all the time and everything.

[576] I don't know, but anybody has it.

[577] I brought my car and get washed, and it comes out and you go, eh, and that's kind of what that was.

[578] But that, so the show is basically, she's hiring these girls.

[579] These girls, listen.

[580] And then they're going on tour together.

[581] I've had drug add, drug addictions.

[582] I've had eating things like when you are not in a good mental state, which is a lot of the reason people act out with different things, right?

[583] With substances, with food, with whatever.

[584] You know, and, you know, listen, if you have people that are emotionally that have issues you know and Lizzo might have them as well it's a toxic soup of maybe that's a becomes a problem on tour yeah everybody it's the idea of a judge having to adjudicate this to me is the funniest thing I've ever the idea of a judge in a room having to go who cold who fat looking Lizzo's on one side and then the dance and he's like staring at everybody going wait who's who who's what who's what's like it's crazy but you know it's unfortunate because you know they're coming for her career yeah they're coming for her career big time the show itself seems like it would be a health risk oh it seems like it would be right it's to force people to work out part of the lawsuit has to do with the recording that one of the dancers made and i'm reading this article this sounds it's interesting if you guys would want to read it okay it's pretty fun the suit also describes an alleged meeting with dancers on April 27th at which Lizzo repeatedly referenced William's termination, allegedly telling her that she had, quote, eyes and ears everywhere.

[585] Davis recorded this meeting because she suffers from an eye condition that can make her, quote, disoriented in stressful situations, according to the suit.

[586] Days later, Lizzo allegedly held an emergency meeting where she discovered that the previous meeting had been recorded, the suit says.

[587] She became furious, hurling expletives at the group and stating that she was going to go around the room person by person until somebody told Lizzo, who, made the recording, according to the lawsuit.

[588] The suit says Davis confirmed that she had recorded the meeting, allegedly told Lizzo that she hadn't meant any harm, and had deleted the video.

[589] Lizzo allegedly responded, there is nothing you can say to make me believe you.

[590] So it's kind of like a mafia shit.

[591] All right.

[592] Well, someone did, here's what I want to know when it says became furious hurling expletives at the group and stated that she was going to go around the room person by person until someone told Lizzo who was making, who made the recording.

[593] God, I hope she refers to herself in the third turn.

[594] Yes.

[595] Third person.

[596] Somebody better tell Lizzo.

[597] I hope that's how she says it.

[598] That would be amazing.

[599] If she said someone better tell Lizzo.

[600] Yeah, I mean, she brought all these women on tour probably to abuse them, you know?

[601] I don't think they thought it through.

[602] That's what I'm saying.

[603] When you have a bunch of fatty boom baddies on the tour, she's probably having a little fun going, girls, you know, she's probably.

[604] Eat some pussy.

[605] out of banana eat the pussy banana and also bitch do it because where else are you going to dance right you're not getting hired anywhere else like unfortunately or fortunately you're not working right so you were given this really weird unique opportunity that only exists with this one woman yeah it doesn't exist anywhere else so you know there's this is like not to body shame anybody but what there was there's been a weird shift yes and just the way society like looks at these things.

[606] Because it used to be that women that were representing clothes and things had ideal shapes.

[607] Yes.

[608] Like that's what they used for advertisement.

[609] And then something changed and they decided to...

[610] Well, society used to really prioritize people who could breathe on their own.

[611] And that and I, and I, and listen.

[612] Listen, as a person, I've struggled with my weight, but I know that fat is not good.

[613] Eating the wrong thing isn't good.

[614] We shouldn't turn it into good.

[615] Right.

[616] It's crazy to turn it into good.

[617] That's a horrible idea.

[618] There's people that could be encouraged in this exact same state.

[619] They could either be encouraged that you're perfect on your own and don't you worry about anything.

[620] Right.

[621] Don't you even worry about what food is, just eat to your heart's content.

[622] Right.

[623] Well, there were things that L .A., they put this weird story out where it was like, the L .A. school district was like, let's stop telling kids that fruits and vegetables are good and that junk food is bad because the reality is that's racist.

[624] I don't know how.

[625] I don't know how either.

[626] But they were like, yeah, they were like, it's racist.

[627] If you tell a kid, there's a difference between an Oreo and an orange that is racist.

[628] Recently, they had a thing where Lizzo lost a few pounds.

[629] I don't know how, but she did, you know, she moves around a lot.

[630] So she shaved a couple off.

[631] maybe lost a little bit in the face don't know how it happened they started attacking her the fat activist people started saying how dare you you're losing weight you're the symbol of fat and she should never have let them put that crown on her when they said she should have said hey I'm an artist I'm a singer this is what I do not I'm the symbol of all fat people because now you own them now you own the fatties and that you have to stay fat and you got to stay fat and like so listen loses a few pounds and then people started attacking her going how dare you lose the weight and Lizzo literally made a statement she said I move around a lot for my job I mean look at how insane this world is Lizzo goes I move around a lot for my job I lost a little bit of weight I'm not trying to be thin I don't even want to be thin this was an accident to keep this rapid fan base of crazy people my health was an accident my health was an accident was in accident.

[632] I'm sorry I didn't mean it.

[633] I didn't mean to improve.

[634] It won't happen again.

[635] So it's, we've gone so far.

[636] Yeah.

[637] Kevin James had a manager that told them once when you're losing weight, you're losing roles.

[638] Right.

[639] Well, if you're an actor and you're used to that certain thing, you know, people got to get used to you another way, whatever.

[640] But like you got to remember with somebody like Lizzo, right?

[641] You couldn't lose a lot of weight.

[642] You're still a problem.

[643] Like, that's the whole thing.

[644] It's like she could lose a lot of weight and it's still like it's such a luxury concern when people are like well how's the world going to relate to me with a six pack it's like just stand up by yourself first and then get to there but um it's crazy we've shifted the goalposts we're like let's not abuse people let's not be nasty to people especially if you don't know them or if you know them if they're your kids or your friends it's completely appropriate to go hey what's going on here.

[645] But if you don't know people shitting on them on the internet or whatever, that's a shitty thing to do.

[646] But saying that there's no difference health -wise between the big girls on that show and then thinner dancers is crazy.

[647] It's crazy.

[648] And we can't live in a world that's crazy.

[649] We can't live in a world where we remove all sense of reality.

[650] Right.

[651] Because then it's like the only fun of eating a cupcake or a little scoop ice cream is knowing it's bad.

[652] Right.

[653] That's the point not because it's good right when you eat a little something you shouldn't eat you go i did the wrong thing i'm a bad boy and you should feel ashamed a little bit there should be a little shame there and it's worth the shame because it tastes so fucking good it's just worth the shame like yeah you you know if you've ever been i walked out of a frozen yogurt shop once and someone recognized me i don't get recognized all the time but somebody recognize you you should be ashamed of that if someone goes hey man i'm I like your stuff and you're holding frozen yogurt at 2 p .m. You should be ashamed of that.

[654] That should be a shameful moment in your life.

[655] You should be like walking out of an ice cream shop in the mid -afternoon with Sam Talent in Austin walking out of Amy's ice cream with Sam Talent and then somebody goes oh Tim Dillon and you go you spit around you look at it and the only other people in the thing are children because it's a fucking ice cream shop the only people there are fucking kids they're nine years old.

[656] right and then these rich B cave moms there should be a moment there we go oh this isn't good this isn't right divorcing yourself from that that's when I think comedy gets weird that's when I think everything gets weird when you stop saying what is real right or true to you and when you start adopting this idea that up is down and down is up and it's just a matter of how you look at it that's when everything starts to get crazy yeah and that's where we are That's kind of where we are.

[657] There's a certain percentage of the population that is questioning everything right now.

[658] I mean, mathematics.

[659] Yeah.

[660] We're talking about mathematics being racist and subjective or somehow.

[661] Yeah.

[662] What was the argument?

[663] I don't know.

[664] Because it was designed, anything designed by white people, like I says, inherently, potentially.

[665] You just got to.

[666] So dumb.

[667] Yeah.

[668] Well, now it's important to like local, local stuff's important now, right?

[669] Like your family.

[670] You can't really rely on institutions.

[671] you can try to improve them but the local stuff's important like your family your community the values that people have right and the schools you send your kids to the context you provide your kids now so when they come home and go well the teacher said this and you go yeah yeah but let me you can't outsource it anymore and trust that your kids are going to get like a good education you have to get involved and go okay your teacher might have some points but also there's also a whole other world here.

[672] I don't think we could send kids to school and have them go like, no, your teacher's right about everything which I never believed.

[673] I never believed that somebody driving the Toyota Camry was correct.

[674] You also have to think that those adults are with your children more than you are during the day.

[675] That's right.

[676] They're there for hours and hours with the undivided attention of your kids.

[677] That's right.

[678] And some of them are fucking loons.

[679] Some of them and aunts.

[680] Some of them think that they have a job to do to, like, remove the programming of the parents that they don't agree with.

[681] Right.

[682] So they could not agree with the parents and tell the kids that the parents are wrong and they're right.

[683] Right.

[684] Which is a real creepy thing because I don't know who's right and who's wrong.

[685] This is a made -up scenario, right?

[686] But just that someone would decide that they are right and the parents are wrong and they want to.

[687] to convince this child of something, whether it's they have political leanings, whether it's their attitude on whatever the fuck it is, whatever it is, that someone would get into your kid's head and have some very questionable and debatable ideas that they're trying to push as doctrine.

[688] Yeah.

[689] And that does happen.

[690] I've had some shitty fucking teachers that will just tell you, tell you that they are right about certain things.

[691] Yes.

[692] I used to do cocaine.

[693] with the substitutes at my school.

[694] And those were, that was kind of the level of teacher we had.

[695] But we had some great teachers.

[696] And then we had some teachers that were not great, right?

[697] You know, we all know those teachers, right?

[698] We all know those teachers who had kind of an agenda.

[699] Like they went in and they were like, they were teachers because nobody would listen to them.

[700] So now they had this captive audience.

[701] And they were like, well, I'm going to talk.

[702] We had a health teacher like that in, you know, high school that had like an agenda.

[703] not even like a sexuality agenda or whatever she would just complain about her own miserable life to us like she would just tell us about her husband and everything like that she was going through a divorce and you're like oh this woman just wants people to talk to and that's how she talked class yeah she just would complain about like she had just gone through a divorce and you know like the husband and what was the subject it was health it's like a fake class anyway kind of and this bitch would just get up and like literally she said the one kid one she goes you're like a really effeminate kid he was like well if I get married she goes you're gay and and then like oh my god and then the class was like what and then she's like she goes and he goes excuse me and she goes no you're gay and then just moved on like she was wacky and I think she ended up getting fired but she clearly used her classroom as like a thing like a therapy session yeah where she wasn't like going over you know this was just like her I think that my grandmother was a teacher who's an amazing teacher but yeah I don't think it's appropriate to inf like you can have opinions obviously as a teacher but like you know you gotta understand that there's like certain things that but then there's overreaction too where I think they banned the book in Florida because it had two penguins that were dudes but it went like they weren't the penguins weren't fucking they unbanned the book he gets a little wild well he's probably got some really wild people that are supporting him too yeah so he gets a little You get into those religious...

[704] It gets a little cult -like.

[705] Gets a little cult -like.

[706] But as somebody who's been out of the closet for years and years and don't hide anything, I don't think six -year -olds should be taught about any sexuality.

[707] No. It has nothing to do with their lives.

[708] Right.

[709] They should be taught reading math, the alphabet.

[710] So anybody going like, boys in this line, girls in this line, and this line is for my special people, like out.

[711] That's what I feel.

[712] Yeah.

[713] And that's what most gay people over a certain age feel.

[714] It's like, it's silly.

[715] And Tango makes three recounts the true story of two male penguins who are devoted to each other at the Central Park Zoo in New York.

[716] A zookeeper saw them building a nest and trying to incubate an egg -shaped rock, gave them an egg from a different penguin pair with two eggs after they were having difficulty hatching more than one egg at a time.

[717] The chick cared for by the male penguins was named Tango.

[718] So male Tango had two gay dads.

[719] is that yeah I'm trying that's what they're saying but they unband this I think they banded and then unba I don't know why they unbanded it it was the band was lifted because I guess it wasn't explicit what is wrong with gay violence I don't know but I think it's an overreaction because it's like there were books where they were showing explicit like oral sex they were showing like illustrations of oral sex that's crazy no it's insane and talking about lust and wanting someone it's like it's it's like it's It's essentially a cartoon pornography.

[720] No, that's crazy.

[721] And it's also crazy to introduce the concept of, like, gender theory to children.

[722] It's not fair.

[723] It's not fair.

[724] It's crazy.

[725] Kids are so fucking malleable, man. They're malleable.

[726] And if they hear, like, oh, there's boys and girls.

[727] And then there's this, if you're transgender, you'll know.

[728] You'll know.

[729] If you're gay, you'll know.

[730] There isn't, like, you don't need to be told that you're transgender or gay or lesbian, whatever.

[731] You don't need to be told that by anybody.

[732] Another thing that really scares me is there does not seem to be a lot of attention paid made to D -transitioners.

[733] Right.

[734] You know, when you're celebrating this one thing.

[735] There's another side.

[736] I feel like you have a responsibility to look at it.

[737] Except Ben Shapiro's doing a new musical of the D -transitioners.

[738] That would be very good.

[739] He apparently hated Barbie.

[740] On his platform where it's going to be a bunch of trans people who've DJ.

[741] Well, the first.

[742] funniest thing now is some of the people that are critical of the trans stuff are like trans people that like have detransitioned so they look wild and then they're on Twitter or whatever it's called now fighting with the other people and you're like it's like the Lizzo fat thing where you go wait who's what like I don't even know what's happening but yeah there's a lot of people that went through that stuff and went back so to me it's like one of the guests of this podcast did yeah Kristen Beck she was Chris it was a Navy SEAL became his name's Chris Beck right and then he became Kristen and then went back to being a guy that's why you can't make those decisions when you're young you got to see what happens well you also got to realize that there is some very strange spectrum of human being that's right and everybody like looks for some reason we try to find what is like us out there right you know you just can't just accept what whatever it's so weird because i i'm the opposite where it's like i'm fascinated by people not like me like like i see these comedy shows in new york city where it's like they'll be like the all brown comedy show or the all gay comedy and i'm like you're living in new york city this is the most diverse place on earth and you want to hang out with seven people that look exactly like you right it's the weirdest thing in our culture now that everybody needs to be around people like them well it's social media echo chambers amplified into the real world that's what it is and the the thing about wanting everybody to be like you the problem with that is like what if you go up last all those fucking dudes have they've taken it they have all the material they've taken every bit every every observation oh your dad wanted you to be a doctor too yeah it's just I understand community I understand having shared experiences with people.

[743] But I also think some of the most adventurous parts of life and the most interesting and the most exciting are when you're with, how many cool stories start with like somebody went on a trip and met a bunch of people that had no idea from different cultures?

[744] And they said, I had the most epic trip ever because, and they'll describe every person that ended up on this backpacking thing with them and not one of them is like another one.

[745] and it seems so cool that everybody brings a perspective that you don't have you know and now it's like people are like oh I just want to be around people like myself all the time to me I'm like isn't that boring isn't it boring to agree with all of your friends it is boring it's boring yeah you want to you want people in your life that you detest you know like you strongly dislike that think they're smart and are wrong right those are the funnest people certainty is hilarious yes people that have to reverse themselves all the time really I have to reverse myself a lot I do too I will do a whole thing and then people go it's not like that and I go well then that's fine too and I'll just keep going like a hundred percent because that's what keeps life fun yes yeah and you know and it's always interesting to try to figure out why someone strongly believes what they believe if you don't believe it it's always interesting right so Especially if they're smart.

[746] It's always interesting to like, okay, how did you come to that?

[747] Like when really brilliant people are very religious.

[748] I'm always interesting.

[749] I'm always like, that's interesting.

[750] What's very interesting is like, for me, my grandmother and grandfather was deeply religious.

[751] My grandmother was a liberal.

[752] My grandfather was a conservative.

[753] So politically, they were completely different.

[754] But they each went to mass every day.

[755] And they believed deeply in the Catholic faith, right?

[756] And they had great lives.

[757] And it was a very important thing for both.

[758] of them.

[759] But politically they came out from completely different ways.

[760] So he'd vote for Reagan and she'd vote for whoever, right?

[761] Mondeau.

[762] A divided household.

[763] Well, no, it was they were different.

[764] My grandfather was my father's father.

[765] My grandmother was my mother's mother.

[766] But they got along.

[767] They loved me. They were great people.

[768] They were very religious.

[769] But my grandmother said, I don't, I, for example, don't believe women that one abortion should have to go to a back alley.

[770] And my grandfather said, I believe that life starts a conception.

[771] We should not have legal.

[772] They was a big disagreement.

[773] And to some people that would have disqualified my grandmother, they would have been like, well, she's not a real Christian.

[774] But she was out teaching catechism, helping people, volunteering, doing all the stuff that Jesus probably would have done, you know?

[775] So it was like they were completely different.

[776] But yeah, it is interesting.

[777] We have deeply religious.

[778] I think it's a lot of like, You know, without religion, it is difficult, without some idea of why we're here and what we're doing, it is a, it's a tough go of it.

[779] Yeah.

[780] For a lot of people.

[781] It's a tough go of it as a pure intellectual.

[782] Right.

[783] You know, some of the smartest people I know are really freaked out about life.

[784] Everything that's just chance and theories and going like, one guy gets in a car, another guy gets in a car, that guy makes it home, that guy doesn't.

[785] Yeah.

[786] Living with the reality of that every day is really tough.

[787] Yeah.

[788] You know what I mean?

[789] It is.

[790] So I think what, you know, these systems that, you know, are very comforting.

[791] And it would be great if there was some version of it that was true.

[792] Like if there was some omniscient being rewarding the good and punishing the bad, it's phenomenal.

[793] I think there's a lot of that.

[794] But maybe there's a third way, which you talk about a lot.

[795] And that's from like the DMT and stuff like that.

[796] maybe there's a maybe we all just go to some peaceful energy field isn't that kind of the game who knows what we are like right we think of our consciousness as our consciousness coming out of our mouth through our words right and what we do and where we go and what we see right you know but like what is it like what is that energy when if it's unstrapped from the human body when it doesn't need to communicate with sound when it doesn't have a body right is there something something in there that goes somewhere else because that if that's like the this idea of the soul like that's one of the ways that people describe like DMT experiences that you're entering into like a well of souls right you know that there's some process the thing that thing goes back into a body and then a new body has that thing in it interesting so this is the reincarnation yeah the reincarnation idea but I don't want that There's another one.

[797] One other thought.

[798] I don't like that one.

[799] So let's get to one I like.

[800] The other one is that you live the same life over and over and over again until you get it right.

[801] That I don't love either.

[802] That I don't love either.

[803] Then I have to take megabuses again and, you know, performing bars in Western Massachusetts.

[804] I know, but would that be so horrible?

[805] If you already did it.

[806] What about past life regressive therapy?

[807] You think there's anything to that?

[808] Or do you think that's just a racket?

[809] Passive regressive?

[810] No, past life regression.

[811] Oh, past life regression.

[812] We're like somebody would go, you were Napoleon.

[813] Well, there's some real issues with that.

[814] People are very suggestible.

[815] It depends entirely on who's providing the therapy.

[816] There was a guy that did that.

[817] His name was John Mack, and he did that with UFO people.

[818] All these people that claimed to have been abducted.

[819] And he freaked out more a tyranny, and she came me a book, like, at work when we're doing news radio together.

[820] She's like, you've got to read this.

[821] This is crazy.

[822] And it's all about these people that got abducted.

[823] They all have the same fucking story.

[824] And this guy did it all through hypnotic regret.

[825] But there were some people that felt like he had made suggestive questions to them and that perhaps led them in a certain way to maybe even fabricate this kind of a memory.

[826] I don't know, though.

[827] It's like I'm super suspicious.

[828] I mean, I think that it's totally possible that someone could put you into hypnosis.

[829] Right.

[830] And in that hypnosis, you can recall something that was traumatic.

[831] I also think it's totally possible for you to have false memories implanted in your head.

[832] Because they know that you can do that.

[833] They know they can do that with people.

[834] They can give people false memories.

[835] And so these people, they'll tell them about things that happen.

[836] And all these people will repeat this thing that happened.

[837] They remember it.

[838] But it never happened.

[839] And then they have to tell them that never happened.

[840] Interesting.

[841] My friend's mother was into, like Shirley McLean, apparently is really into this stuff?

[842] Oh, super into it.

[843] She's super into it.

[844] So my friend's mother was, like, really into it, too.

[845] And my friend's mother was just a rich, Long Island wine drunk.

[846] Nice.

[847] And she just, you know what I mean?

[848] She was, she didn't work or anything.

[849] She was just a fun, crazy bitch that we drink martinis with and smoke cigarettes, and it was so much fun.

[850] And then, like, after a few martinis, she started talking about her past life and Shirley McLean and how she used to, you know, she was a man in her past life.

[851] And she was, like, a general and a war.

[852] Of course.

[853] Right, of course, of course, because she went shopping all day.

[854] She went to the grocery store.

[855] In the past, she was a winner.

[856] Yeah, you're right.

[857] I did my winning.

[858] Yes, she, right.

[859] In another life.

[860] She was like, I was Napoleon, you know.

[861] Imagine bragging about a past life.

[862] Well, that's what she would do.

[863] She would get happened.

[864] So it always turned me off to it because I was like, oh, this bitch seemed like, and then Shirley McLean would have some workshop where all these crazy bitches would go in that, of course, had nothing to do during the day.

[865] Yeah.

[866] And they would sit there, and then Shirley McLean would be like, and you were a you were the queen of England and you were Napoleon and you were a soldier who tried to kill Hitler you kept trying to kill him but you didn't get and it was these weird shit that like Shirling claim would tell all these people that like they were like I don't know like it's just huckster stuff in poor it feels a lot of it feels like that yeah it's tent church hustlers they sell crystals by Malibu you know like you drive down to PCH as like a crystal truck on the side of the road.

[867] What is that?

[868] What is that?

[869] But that's the thing in LA, there's a lot of like those yoga people.

[870] Yeah.

[871] That just are, you know, but it's also very selfish a lot of it.

[872] The yoga stuff?

[873] They always talk about themselves.

[874] And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but everything's about them.

[875] My favorite is learning to love yourself.

[876] Are you okay?

[877] You don't?

[878] But like you talk about these people and they're like, well, the energy and this, that and the other thing.

[879] But it always comes down to them.

[880] They're never like the, the.

[881] energy was really good in the soup kitchen where I was giving the guy the food it's always like I felt that I had to move to marina del Rey because I consulted and I went I took ayahuasca I went and my shaman led me on this journey and the journey resulted in that I should live in marina del Rey it's always like you know a very kind of like it's about me it's like all those guys that go to Burning Man to take all those mushrooms and it's you know it's like okay but it's like they're not like you know it's not like this you know like the ethos isn't like like these are the same guys that are like designing like the types of systems that are like taking all your information selling it to someone right so it's like they're taking a bunch of mushrooms and then realizing that like oh I can make a better palatier or it's like here's I can sell more data yeah I could sell more data it's like all those festivals have not been invaded but like these tech guys who just go there and they're like like, dude, the world, like, they're like, I just got to really, like, get into myself.

[882] And then they're, like, designing, like, stuff that, like, the CIA is using.

[883] So it's kind of wild to me the way that we appropriate anything.

[884] We just take any spiritual experience we want and make it serve us.

[885] Yeah.

[886] That's a fact that seems to be a human characteristic.

[887] Yeah.

[888] Like, there's ayahuasca retreats are huge.

[889] They are, but they're good.

[890] There's real good at them.

[891] There's good.

[892] like a certain type of person who gravitates towards those things to sort of spiritualize their existence and just by virtue of connecting yourself to the experience and having a few of those experiences you have like a credit score like a spiritual credit score interesting it's a very high spiritual credit score that's interesting and then you can be this guy who wears wooden beads nobody says they're into the dark art what i would like is somebody goes i got in all that stuff but i'm a witch I'm like a warlock Like I'm into the dark side of it Like I'm into like I'm the other side I'm Voldemort No one does that Do the late night shift at Walmart Right those are the guys That Chipotle Chopin chicken Black fingernails Yeah it's weird to me I always try to get into it But it just sounds like junk That's the problem Right when you hear people talk about this It sounds like junk Because usually it's the most selfish person in the world And we'll tell you about an ayahuasca retreat It's never like a good person Amazing things get co -opted all the time by people's personalities.

[893] Yeah.

[894] You know, I'm sure.

[895] Like, people will be like, my shaman told me I shouldn't worry about being on the tonight show.

[896] And you're like, is that what you're using the shaman for?

[897] Exactly.

[898] Well, it's just, it's a thing that connects you to some form of spirituality that's non -denominational.

[899] So it's like, just like being a Christian.

[900] It has the exact same feeling as, being any in any other religious group and it's not just to disparage any religious group I think there's a slot in your brain where the rules fit in and I think that slot could be Islam that that slot could be Mormonism but there's a slot in your brain and we took that slot out we took that piece out we're like hey I've been reading this and I never heard anybody coming back to the life after fucking three days maybe this is horseshit maybe he didn't make the fucking whole earth in six days maybe this thing's really old.

[901] That's why I always like Jerry Seinfeld because he goes, I like things.

[902] Like he does this advertis speech he did at the Cleo, these advertising awards, he got one of them.

[903] And he just, he does this whole thing.

[904] It's so brilliant.

[905] And he goes, I like advertising because I like lying.

[906] And he talks about he goes, if things don't make you happy, you don't have the right things.

[907] And you hear it, it's so funny, right?

[908] And people would be like, it's so disgusting.

[909] Of course, it's at the end of the day, people make you happy, love makes you happy, community, family, all that makes you happy.

[910] But when he talks about things making you happy, it's so funny and so him and the way he sells it.

[911] The way Jerry Seinfeld sells like, he goes, there's nothing better than a pair of Levi's or, you know, or he goes, a Volkswagen Beetle or a big pen.

[912] He's like, if things don't make you happy, you don't have the right things.

[913] It's so funny.

[914] And I feel like he does think a little bit like that.

[915] Yeah.

[916] Because that is a group of person, too, where they're almost spiritually connected to inanimate objects you know like and he said this is all going to be my new book soulful materialism but it's just funny to me because it's like there are people you meet that when you talk to them you go oh yeah like this does mean a lot to you that's a very funny premise though that's a very good jerry seinfeld premise the best thing i's like i'm i think he's you know i'm not familiar with all of his comedy shows brilliant obviously his comedy's brilliant but that award speech i saw it was like this very unique, different thing that he goes, he goes, yeah, these awards, he goes, he goes, here's what they really are.

[917] He goes, I know this award means nothing.

[918] He goes, and I know that because the last time we did this, you know, the last time they had this award show, they left a bunch of them up on stage and you all just came up here and grabbed them.

[919] He goes, you didn't earn them, but he goes, you just brought them home because they prop up your meaningless lives.

[920] It's the best thing I've seen it from.

[921] It was my just favorite thing, because it does seem like he's totally raw and I feel like that is him like he is being real in that moment where he's basically like no this is what it is yeah here's the shiny thing he goes it doesn't matter that it doesn't work when I get it home I want it now he goes I want the thing on the commercial I want it and there is something so deeply American about that it is disturbing on some level but there's also a level where you got to just recognize how powerful that stuff is too yeah like we are one of the only generations of people that have experienced this level of prosperity oh yeah which is crazy an instant access to goods to everything on an app on your phone amazon anything you can just buy whatever you want you can buy crazy shit on amazon very expensive things on amazon you just have it sent to your house it's like my boomer parents were like the first heavily propagandized generation with regard advertising yeah that's why we all grew up eating shit because like they believed corporations yeah corporations were like McDonald's is it your kids are gonna love it and you're like all right go to McDonald's now my cousins two kids have never had McDonald's they're six and four she goes they'll never she goes I can't control them forever but for right now they'll never have McDonald's we grew up eating there yeah because corporations were paramountains out.

[922] My father loves commercials as much as TV shows.

[923] He used to call me like the Budweiser frogs were his favorite thing in the world.

[924] Remember those three frogs?

[925] I do remember those frogs.

[926] On the lily pants?

[927] I do.

[928] Bud Wiseer.

[929] And my father loved them.

[930] To him that was art. Like that with the boomers were like one of the first generations where the advertising was art. Like after 9 -11 Budweiser did this commercial where all the Clydesdales took a and they said from one American and they were doing it and you're like where was it and they're doing it in Jersey and you're looking at where the towers used to be and it took you a minute to get it and then they all take a knee and Budweiser said from one American icon to another and all and my father's like crying in the living room going this is the greatest thing I've seen the bodies were still like smoldering and my father yeah here it is it's crazy how did they go from that to what they did it's a big mistake go from that to this Dylan Mulvaney disaster.

[931] Well, I think what they thought was going to happen, right?

[932] Because I think what happens is you get, all you need is one nut.

[933] This is all you need in any company.

[934] Nobody's ever worked in a company.

[935] Like the people that are curious about how this happened, a lot of them have never worked in a company where just one person has an inordinate amount of power.

[936] And one motherfucker can go in there and go, no, this is the way it's going to be.

[937] And usually that person doesn't get called out because usually the company is not Budweiser and usually it's not going to be you know but we all see like one person in any organization can totally throw it on its head and I think they had a marketing director who said we're going to have a little fun we're going to be a little edgy this is going to be cool and we're going to get dim moving and I don't think what they'd imagine was that was kind of this straw that broke the camel's back because people had felt like this new world was being shoved down their throat and then they were looking at Budweiser and they were going, we have to push back against this because we feel like all of this is happening a little too quickly.

[938] It's a little crazy and we don't understand it and they fought back but I think it was probably just one or two people.

[939] That is wild.

[940] That probably came in there and you know you're not paying attention.

[941] You go yeah yeah here's a budget.

[942] Go work with influencers.

[943] You know?

[944] But it was also the speech that she gave about wanting to do something to sort of upgrade the brand's image that it was a very fratty oh yeah like what's one bitch oh one bitch has to go in there and go i don't she goes out to a bar one night she's a bunch of guys and fucking you know those pink salmon shorts and fucking low for his drinking bud light and she goes i don't like this i got to change this isn't it amazing yeah it's one person it's the whole group of people that buy it yeah like a man it's a shitty beer it's not the best beer I'm not a beer drink alcohol now but it's not the best beer it's not the best beer right it's okay it's fine it's okay when it's cold it's not like a connoisseur's beer no no this is a cooler beer yeah this is a frat bro beer yeah and they were like we're gonna now do the Dylan Mulvaney thing yeah I mean you know I don't I never want I people getting upset about it I understand to a degree I understand where it comes from but I've never looked at corporations and went they're good you know what I mean I never thought that they were beacons of truth so I never thought that like I can't believe it's not butter had to have my political view like you know because I'm like oh they're selling poison crap and fat people are going no it's not butter you know how wild it is that they convinced people that that margarine was It's better for you than butter.

[945] Well, they came in and they said frozen yogurt's better than ice cream.

[946] And it's all, it's just chemicals.

[947] Same thing.

[948] It's just chemicals, right?

[949] Sugar.

[950] Margarine's better than butter.

[951] This vegan stuff, these impossible burgers are better than burgers.

[952] And they're like fake and they're loaded with sodium.

[953] And they fake blood and stuff.

[954] But that's what I always viewed corporations like that.

[955] I always came from that generation where we looked at corporations where we're like, oh, you're full of shit.

[956] My parents looked at corporations crying at the commercials going, they care about us.

[957] Budweiser cares, McDonald's cares, we all, they care about us.

[958] Right.

[959] You know?

[960] Like when I was a child actor, I said to my parents, they brought me into some audition.

[961] I didn't get it.

[962] And I came out and I went, I didn't get it, but can we still go to McDonald's?

[963] My dad used that as like, look what a good head he has on his shoulders.

[964] He can handle rejection and he just wants to go to McDonald's.

[965] And it's like, no, that's a toxic factory of horrible food that no kids should be eating.

[966] But we grew up having birthday parties there.

[967] Every kid in my class had a birthday party at Burger King or whatever.

[968] It's just what it was because our parents fundamentally trusted corporate America and the government enough to go, well, if it was bad, the government would be regulating it.

[969] Yeah, nobody thought of fast food as bad when we were kids.

[970] It was just food that wasn't the best food.

[971] Right.

[972] And nobody was like, this stuff's bad.

[973] Like I wonder, I think when supersized me came out, that was like the first time where people were.

[974] people actually really thought like okay how bad is this yeah but then that guy was so annoying that guy that people were like well fuck him like he made a true point but people were like but the corporations are smart to go okay but how about fast casual how about fast casual not fast food and you go well it's not fast food I have to stand on a line they give me a thing but it's the same thing like they just morph what they do so to me I've never been like these corporations will do what they can get away with.

[975] And I think with the Mulvaney thing, they just want to step too far.

[976] I think they just did it for that one person.

[977] I don't think this is like a run of cans, right?

[978] No, they just center a can and they were like, but again, it's like if you want to be the most famous person in the world, which like Andrew Tate wanted to be, right?

[979] And then you get there and there's all these unintended consequences, right?

[980] Then Dylan Mulvaney clearly wanted to be massively famous, right?

[981] The whole thing is like, I want to be massively.

[982] I want to work with all these brands and I want to Dylan had already interviewed Biden before that.

[983] Yeah, yeah, they want to be...

[984] But how does that happen?

[985] They say...

[986] How wild is that?

[987] They say we had an effeminate gay man who didn't make it doing that.

[988] Now she's a check.

[989] And she wants to interview Biden.

[990] And the Biden goes, and they go, good, it's coming.

[991] And then they just do an interview.

[992] Biden doesn't know where he is or what's happening.

[993] No. No, he's just hanging on.

[994] It's the least fun way to be president.

[995] to be the most powerful person in the world and not know has got to suck a little it's perfect the best thing ever was when they go the Biden family over in nantucket in the holidays they went to their nantucket home and discussed whether Joe should run again and they all said he should and I'm like is that reason that yeah they had a meeting over the holidays where they're like we're assessing July 4th holidays no this was during the holidays holidays and they were like the Biden family had this meeting Jamie could look it up where they were like Yeah, where they were like, we're going to see if he's going to run again.

[996] And Jill and Hunter and the rest of the crew met, and they decided it's a great idea for him to run again.

[997] And I'm like, it's crazy sending a guy that old into battle again.

[998] And I don't, you know, so.

[999] There was some article, Jamie, about the accusations of how much money they received.

[1000] and like some new one came out today they were trying to figure out how much money the Biden family received during this whole Hunter Biden scandal thing right well it's a big scandal people don't people are going like well his son's an addict and he stood by his son number one don't stand by here like if a laptop came out where I had done what Hunter Biden was doing my family would tell people I was dead like and they're not even the president my dad sells wine and he wouldn't admit like there is a time you cannot support your kids by the way what are we talking about people like well he's a good father it's like is he was he do you think it was his coke at the white house whose coke is it outside it's definitely his coke but i don't like narcs and rats so i think he should be a little to have a little he can have a blast yeah what's the big deal you're at your fucking dad's house if your father's a present you can't have a blast You can't do a little bump.

[1001] Comer releases the third bank memo detailing payments to the Bidens from Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine.

[1002] What's the number?

[1003] 20 million.

[1004] The committee has now identified over 20 million in payments for foreign sources to the Biden family and their business associates.

[1005] Oh, yeah.

[1006] I mean, listen, you don't stay in, there's no way that they looked at him and what he should be the president unless they knew for a fact that he's Controlled and being managed This is all this is no way He's so wild They want a guy He's he's been a company man forever He's you know He started his career letting You know people In Delaware like these These credit card companies do whatever the fuck they wanted And he had that you know The architect of the crime bill Where they sent a lot of nonviolent drug affair But he's done He's the company man like he's a guy Joe Biden's been a guy It's why Obama had him his vice president he was never like an articulate guy he was never that great in it he was just the guy that would heed he's a solid Washington insider forever and that's what he is and now he's old but that's what he is a guy that's just been in the system for a long time yeah and that's that's what he is him running again in one more year from now there's no way how newsome is coming up and trying to run um there are other people that are circling, I don't think he runs again.

[1007] I can't see it.

[1008] I don't see it.

[1009] How do you think they get Kamala Harris a step down?

[1010] Because she's rightfully, if he steps down, you know, until some...

[1011] Kamala Harris cannot say a sentence.

[1012] It's almost, she's almost worse than him.

[1013] She talks in like gypsy curses.

[1014] When they ask her something, she'll be like, my grandma said that a hive of bees is still bees if you bury it.

[1015] And you're like, what the fuck is this bitch saying?

[1016] Jim C. Gertches.

[1017] That's how she speaks.

[1018] The woman is, has no idea what's going on.

[1019] But again, Washington inside, they're just like, you were a DA, you were a cop, you'll keep your mouth shut.

[1020] Don't you want to be the first whatever race you're pretending to be president today, Indian black, whatever works?

[1021] And she goes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1022] But they got to get rid of her.

[1023] They got to get rid of her.

[1024] What they should have done, if they wanted to win, George Soros should have backed up the money truck to Michelle Obama.

[1025] and said, listen, you are going to run because people like you.

[1026] They like you.

[1027] It doesn't matter, you know, about any of the conspiracies.

[1028] Maybe you are Big Mike.

[1029] Who cares?

[1030] What?

[1031] But you are going to run this guy.

[1032] I can't believe you went there.

[1033] You're going to run this goddamn country.

[1034] That is the wackiest conspiracy.

[1035] It's a wacky conspiracy.

[1036] Can I make one point for the people that are on the side of it?

[1037] Yes.

[1038] It is weird.

[1039] But I don't think she's been.

[1040] Mike.

[1041] Okay.

[1042] It is weird that there's not one photo of her pregnant, but maybe there is.

[1043] Is that not weird?

[1044] Maybe it's not weird.

[1045] I don't know.

[1046] She's a public person.

[1047] Why would you want photos of her pregnant out there?

[1048] I understand that, but it's, I just, maybe it is weird.

[1049] Maybe it's not weird.

[1050] Maybe it's not weird.

[1051] Well, also, when she had her kids, were they private or public?

[1052] Like, was that when he was a senator?

[1053] I don't know.

[1054] I just know that.

[1055] He was a senator, Yes Before he became president For sure I don't Law school Senate I have no issue Because I want to live I have no issue With Big Mike I don't care that they Killed that sex slave In Martyrs That's what happens In sex slaves They drown in ponds That's what happens You fuck the ruling class You drown a pond That's what happens If you get your You're a little mouthey You go into the pond I don't have a problem with it I have no problem I think it's good I actually think it's good I think it makes our country fun I think it makes us unique I think Putin and them are scared of that shit They do it all the time I think Putin and the Chinese are like You know they don't know what's going on there Because they're we got They got people that maybe their men Maybe they're went we don't know I think if it's not real Make it real Put it out Would it be anything better Than hurt the DNC Whip or cock out and going And I'm Big Mike The Chinese would lose their mind The Chinese would give up They would give up If Michelle Obama took her cock out at the Democratic National Convention, the Chinese would go, we're thrown in the towel.

[1056] We can't compete with them.

[1057] That's my...

[1058] I'm just saying.

[1059] I'm just saying...

[1060] Oh, my God.

[1061] Maybe I won't run for governor of California.

[1062] I don't think you can anymore.

[1063] Maybe it's a bad idea.

[1064] Yeah, not that state.

[1065] It's not a great idea.

[1066] But I bet you'd get it in, like, Wyoming.

[1067] Yeah, I could definitely get in it in.

[1068] Jackson Hole.

[1069] Get yourself a nice way.

[1070] Oh, yeah.

[1071] Decide to become the governor, Wyoming.

[1072] There's definitely a small town that would elect me mayor.

[1073] 100%.

[1074] 100%.

[1075] Yeah.

[1076] Clint Eastwood was mayor of Carmel, remember?

[1077] Yes.

[1078] The fuck you.

[1079] So crazy.

[1080] Giant movie star became a mayor of a small town in Northern California.

[1081] What?

[1082] That is very fun.

[1083] And it's just because all those rich people lived there and they thought it was cool saying our mayor is Clint Clint East.

[1084] Exactly.

[1085] Yeah.

[1086] That's a crazy enclave of rich people.

[1087] I'm getting so old now where I'm 30.

[1088] I don't want to know anymore like I'm like at this point where it's like the younger people coming up are going to have to figure it out like I've got however many years I have left and it's like do I want to know all the secrets at this point in the government it's like it'll be cool to know a few of them but it's like I don't know how many I want to know right you do get to a certain age where you go you know what just you know maybe you guys figured that out if you know too many of them then there's too many battles to fight too many like you can't pay attention to everything.

[1089] thing on the financial front.

[1090] No. The environment front, fucking push for electric cars and just too much to pay attention to it.

[1091] Too much.

[1092] Too much.

[1093] And that's a thing about being a person today.

[1094] We're all overloaded with information.

[1095] And the natural world is like, you know, like, enjoy it while you got it.

[1096] Yeah.

[1097] You know what I mean?

[1098] Like, enjoy it.

[1099] There's sharks eating people left and right.

[1100] Shark ate a woman's leg in Rockaway Beach, Queens.

[1101] Yeah.

[1102] the other day two days ago shark woman lost 20 pounds of flesh thresher or a bull they said maybe a juvenile white they thought if it was an adult white it would have killed her but oh my god you know life is you don't know but that's the weird fucking thing about the goddamn ocean I know goddamn ocean it's monster soup but it is beautiful and amazing to be in you do feel weirdly connected but you feel weirdly connected to the, like, that's a spiritual experience.

[1103] A float in the ocean.

[1104] There is something about that where you're like, this is wild.

[1105] There is something about it.

[1106] It's alive.

[1107] But she's fine.

[1108] 65 -year -old woman was standing in the water near Beach 59th Street and Rockaway Beach just before 6 p .m., which she felt a sharp pain to her left leg causing her to fall backward into the water.

[1109] NYPD officers applied a life -saving tourniquet, and she was taken to Jamaica Hospital in critical condition.

[1110] On Tuesday afternoon, she was upgraded and said to be stable.

[1111] However, her wound was so deep that she nearly bled.

[1112] to death.

[1113] She was identified as a Ukrainian immigrant living in a store yet.

[1114] This is a sciop.

[1115] It's a sciop.

[1116] This is a sciop.

[1117] She's like, they literally interview her.

[1118] They're like, tell us about the shark attack.

[1119] She's like, it is important we keep giving money to Azov Battalion.

[1120] They're like, how did the shark bite you?

[1121] A trillion is not enough.

[1122] We have more.

[1123] They need weapons.

[1124] They need tanks.

[1125] They need to bring the war to Moscow.

[1126] Oh.

[1127] Putin must go.

[1128] You're like, what?

[1129] Who is this bitch?

[1130] They kill two birds with one stone.

[1131] They open up shark fishing.

[1132] Yeah.

[1133] Sharp fishing industry profits.

[1134] Well, I had Eli Roth, who's a really good director.

[1135] He directs horror movies.

[1136] And he's an actor.

[1137] He was an inglorious bastards.

[1138] He's on my podcast this week, and we debate sharks because he's like pro like shark and like don't fish them and like don't do anything to them.

[1139] And like, I'm like, no, we got to start like fucking him up a little.

[1140] Because they are, you know, they're starting, they're getting loud.

[1141] They're getting out there.

[1142] And we've got to start hitting them back a little bit.

[1143] That's, you know, seems, you know.

[1144] There's quite a few videos now that you could watch of people getting killed by sharks.

[1145] Oh, yeah.

[1146] There's quite a few.

[1147] That recent one that was in Egypt is fucking horrible.

[1148] It's terrifying.

[1149] Horrifying.

[1150] But it's like people say, oh, you're sharing the ocean with sharks.

[1151] They're not, that's not sharing what they're doing.

[1152] No, they're eating you.

[1153] They are being very aggressive.

[1154] It's also, it's just, that's where they live.

[1155] Like, don't go where they live.

[1156] If the forest was filled with werewolves, don't go in the forest.

[1157] Yeah, but you know what?

[1158] Why are we giving them the whole, like, that's, we are the kings.

[1159] We dominate the earth.

[1160] We don't have, like, this whole thing we have to respect nature.

[1161] No, we can fuck nature up.

[1162] So you think we should fuck up those sharks?

[1163] I think the four seasons should build a resort in a rainforest and slash, and burn it.

[1164] And I've always said that because I want to go to the rainforest but I don't want to go in a hut and I don't want to go on one of these river boats I want to go on a nice fucking luxury fucking four seasons in the goddamn rainforest enough with this crap stop respecting these fucking third world things get rid of it enough these ancient cultures they need to step it up 10 foot shark beaten to death after tourists who scream for Papa killed in Egypt thank God it wasn't white people because white people would have been pussies and not done anything The Egyptians clubbed it Treated it like a woman How do they know it's the same shark?

[1165] You know, let's not get lost in the weeds here You know what I'm saying?

[1166] Yeah, of course.

[1167] That's what's a good point.

[1168] That is a good point.

[1169] Especially once there's the blood in the water After it killed that guy.

[1170] But war is war.

[1171] Yeah.

[1172] And I do think that the Egyptians were saying A beast came at us We're going to go to a beast.

[1173] It's not right per se.

[1174] We tried to find out if this was true But someone had said that there were people that made a practice of dumping sheep carcasses into the water near there.

[1175] Is that true or is that horseshit?

[1176] Well, then get that club that person too.

[1177] Because that sounds really spooky.

[1178] That's really spooky.

[1179] If someone did something that dumb and they'd like regularly dropped off the carcasses there so that they didn't have to deal with them.

[1180] That's not good.

[1181] And then you're literally attracting sharks to that area.

[1182] Like, holy fuck, man. And then he has to watch that video.

[1183] We just got to be careful.

[1184] You know, I swim, but I'll, I don't go out too far.

[1185] I stay pretty close to the water.

[1186] And I always swim near either elderly person or child, someone that I could throw at the shark.

[1187] If the shark would have it come at me, I just try to push.

[1188] I always have it in my head who it'll be.

[1189] There was a bitch -knucked to me in Malibu.

[1190] I'm like, going to be her.

[1191] If it comes, I'll just throw them right, throw them right in the mouth and then run away.

[1192] Do you think you'd have that much time?

[1193] I hope.

[1194] I have a feeling there on you so quick.

[1195] They are, but a lot of them, the bites are an exploratory bite, like they're not...

[1196] What the fuck?

[1197] They're just trying to see...

[1198] No, they're just trying to see what's going on.

[1199] Did you see the video of the kayak getting hit by the Tiger Shark in Hawaii?

[1200] That's we could have a gun and shoot it in the head.

[1201] Shoot it in the head.

[1202] This, we need to see videos to just get our morale back of people in a fucking kayak, oh, that's fun.

[1203] Shoot it right in the head.

[1204] Yeah.

[1205] I'm sick of this environmentalist crap.

[1206] And I'm sick of these pro -animal people.

[1207] So the sheep stuff, the 2010 shark attacks were...

[1208] And that was in Egypt as well?

[1209] Yeah, I don't know if this exact same area.

[1210] Didn't you used to run with something in case you saw a mountain lion?

[1211] Yeah, ran with a knife.

[1212] Yeah.

[1213] Where are the dead sheep, why are dead sheep washing up on Egypt shores?

[1214] That's from 2017.

[1215] Okay, and what does it say?

[1216] Does it say that people are throwing them in the water?

[1217] Was it saying?

[1218] Dead sheep are washed up in the was...

[1219] Ross Garib in the Red Sea, Goverat, Gavarate, and Egypt raising fears of attracting frenzied sharks that pose a potential threat to tourism, the marine.

[1220] Okay, so what does it say?

[1221] Where do they find the sheep?

[1222] I said they're washed up on the ocean.

[1223] Yeah, how many of them?

[1224] The article I looked at from 2010 said, like a witness said for sure, I've seen it being dumped off of boats.

[1225] The one that just happened, though, I didn't see a direct day.

[1226] They had taken the shark to study it to find out why it had done it.

[1227] It also said that the ship which dumped the sheep in the sea will be identified to punish its crew, adding that importing and exporting companies will also be punished.

[1228] So that's what happened.

[1229] People were dumping those fucking things in the water.

[1230] That's what it is.

[1231] And then the sharks get excited.

[1232] And I understand you have to live with them, but it's also like, you know, we just got to.

[1233] I don't know, the defending of them all the time.

[1234] People are like, well, it's a weird narrative, right?

[1235] It's like all of a sudden sharks aren't Jaws anymore.

[1236] No, they're like, your grandfather went shark fishing.

[1237] It was like, fuck yeah, grandpa, go get one.

[1238] Right, but now Eli was saying, like, it's 12 people a year are bitten.

[1239] It's not a lot.

[1240] And that we have bigger problems.

[1241] And, you know, we do.

[1242] We do, but I also think that, like, you know, I don't know.

[1243] There's a weird thing that people do where they make, like, Like there's all these shark videos where these like women are biologists or whatever.

[1244] They're like tapping these tiger sharks.

[1245] They're like redirecting these tiger sharks.

[1246] Like Ocean Ramsey, all these people.

[1247] And they go like, like we're educating you about sharks.

[1248] Like one day one of these sharks is going to get them.

[1249] It's the same thing.

[1250] If you saw a dude in the forest living with a bear like that documentary and in the bear ate them, you'd go, make sense.

[1251] That's how it happened.

[1252] These are wild animals and I think people just don't understand.

[1253] Yeah, what are we doing here?

[1254] Bro, fuck off.

[1255] like this is not respect that's not respectful how does this guy have this relationship with a shark that's his friend how is this possible that's his friend this is insanity he's like literally like petting a demon but this is just but look at that thing again if that thing didn't exist and it was in like a dune movie you know that there was nothing like this that was real right but this is this is something in a movie you'd be horrified look at the mouth on that thing it's literally a giant killing machine with huge razor sharp teeth but there's this thing where people fetishize these monsters and they try to give them souls and they don't care about human beings by the way and they never do this to people that they disagree with but they'll say that the monster at the bottom of the ocean with the teeth who just swims around looking for things to eat all day that's actually a cuddle mom that's a cuddly beautiful thing but the person who disagrees with me on like taxes is a monster should be jailed but the shark is good the monsters yeah so to me it's like it is a little weird thing where it's like we have something in us that we kind of we will bring on our but the his point was like sharks eat algae and it keeps the ocean you know going or something well no one's saying you should eradicate sharks no one's saying we should eradicate but I think they should feel the wrath a little bit They should probably move out of all the areas where the cities are.

[1256] We don't need them.

[1257] We don't need them in Malibu or the Hamptons or places where people spend a good amount of money to live and swim.

[1258] That's not cool.

[1259] Apparently, there was a, where was it that they, was it the Bay Area?

[1260] They found a disturbing number of great whites.

[1261] Yeah, but no one swims up there.

[1262] And you know what?

[1263] They do, though.

[1264] They swim.

[1265] In the Bay Area?

[1266] Yeah, the Alcatraz swim.

[1267] Oh, that's interesting.

[1268] Those wild fuckers.

[1269] Yeah.

[1270] Like, I think Nick and Nate Diaz have both done it like five times.

[1271] Wow, that's interesting.

[1272] Maybe more than five.

[1273] The Alcat tried to swim.

[1274] Nick might have done it like seven times.

[1275] Yeah, it's miles, right?

[1276] Interesting.

[1277] Isn't it like a couple of miles in the ocean, freezing water filled with sharks?

[1278] Filled.

[1279] Filled with sharks.

[1280] Well, you knew a guy you said who used to do like a serious swim.

[1281] Or I think somebody had been on your show.

[1282] Yes, Peter Atia.

[1283] And he did like serious.

[1284] Like he would swim like distances in the ocean.

[1285] Peter Atia swam the distances between all of the islands in Hawaii.

[1286] And you said he like saw something.

[1287] some stuff.

[1288] Oh, yeah, bro.

[1289] Well, when he was preparing for it, it was right around the same time where there was a group of people that I think they were preparing for triathlons or something, and someone got eaten by a Great White in that same water.

[1290] That's crazy.

[1291] So, like, there was a group of, like, a string of people.

[1292] I went to Australia, and we swam at, like, Bondi Beach, was a really cool beach, crazy riptides, but a week or earlier, a guy was swimming far out, got eaten.

[1293] It's a tough way.

[1294] way to go.

[1295] Bro, you're just like taking the craziest chance.

[1296] Have you ever thought about like, would you want to be mulled by an animal at the end?

[1297] I don't think so.

[1298] Because you love animals or you always talk about how powerful these animals are.

[1299] I don't want to go on the fucking pissing my pants and fear.

[1300] Yeah, it's a good point.

[1301] Getting eaten alive.

[1302] It's a good point.

[1303] It doesn't seem like fun.

[1304] That's probably not.

[1305] Definitely not.

[1306] Definitely not.

[1307] It's got to be interesting that moment.

[1308] You know that kid jumped off a cruise ship and was eaten by sharks.

[1309] He was like high school graduation.

[1310] shown off for his friends, being silly at night in the Bahamas, kids from like Alabama, poor kid just had one stupid, you know, sometimes in life you just make one stupid decision.

[1311] Oh, no. So this is it.

[1312] I don't want to see this.

[1313] No, you don't see it.

[1314] You just see, like he just jumps off, he jumps off a cruise ship, and then he just disappears, and it's shark -infested waters.

[1315] Oh, my God.

[1316] And, you know, he was just a young guy just trying to show off.

[1317] Oh, my God.

[1318] And he just jumps off and...

[1319] What a horrible way to go.

[1320] And you can see what they hyper -analys it, you can see the shark kind of next to him, like a big, massive thing.

[1321] It's just like...

[1322] It's such a freaky animal because the only bones it has are that fucking thing in its mouth.

[1323] It's older than...

[1324] They were saying it's like older than trees.

[1325] Old than trees.

[1326] It's like one of the oldest things in the world.

[1327] It's an ancient evil.

[1328] How amazing is that?

[1329] It's older than trees by like 50 million years.

[1330] It's really crazy.

[1331] it is amazing and it'll probably be here after we're gone the ocean needs a cleanup crew so when we're when we're done when we're done all these things will thrive well who knows what damage we do if we're done that's a good point you know like me and post Malone we're talking as if there's a better pair to be talking about right what could go wrong in the thermonuclear war and what in damage it can do the environment right it's me and post Malone because we were talking about Mars and then there's some sort of strange evidence of a certain element that exists after nuclear bombs that's pretty common on Mars.

[1332] And so there was this article about Mars having some kind of a natural nuclear reactor.

[1333] But the idea was like imagine if there was a time where we did go have an all -out nuclear war with Russia and China.

[1334] Right.

[1335] And everybody Uninhabitable.

[1336] Uninhabitable, obliterated.

[1337] And maybe we would blow out the atmosphere, too.

[1338] Like, this is Elon Musk's whole SpaceX plan, right?

[1339] This Mars mission plan.

[1340] They want to go to Mars, set up colonies on Mars, and then eventually terraform it, right?

[1341] So figure out some way to generate oxygen, start up in an environment there.

[1342] Biodome, Pauly Shore, like that.

[1343] Some of, I don't know what they're going to do.

[1344] Something.

[1345] I don't, who, I mean, who knows?

[1346] But the idea is that you could set up a living colony on Mars.

[1347] Well, probably need to eventually.

[1348] Well, we got to go somewhere.

[1349] But imagine if that's what happened here.

[1350] That's probably what happened here.

[1351] What do you think about these, all these UFO disclosures?

[1352] Are these things registering to you is legit?

[1353] I go back and forth every day.

[1354] The more I think about it, the more I talk to people about them.

[1355] There's something about it that makes me say, at the very least, it's not all true.

[1356] There's got to be something that because I don't, it doesn't have the, It doesn't pass a smell test.

[1357] There's something weird about it to me. Well, my thought is that in almost everything that they tell you, everything involving, you know, international conflicts, everything involving the environment, everything.

[1358] There's always some bullshit in it.

[1359] It's always, like, you have to figure out where's the bullshit.

[1360] Yeah.

[1361] There's always something.

[1362] Like, oh, well, why are you wanting people to take this specific medication?

[1363] Oh, you get all these campaign contributions for those people.

[1364] Oh, and then you own stock in that company.

[1365] Oh, and then you, okay.

[1366] So it's so hard to know.

[1367] He's exactly what it is.

[1368] So hard to know.

[1369] It's very difficult.

[1370] So hard to know, like, what's the motivation behind certain decisions that get made?

[1371] Yeah, almost, it's almost impossible to know.

[1372] And then why are certain things come to light at certain times?

[1373] Yeah.

[1374] Why are certain things public that weren't public?

[1375] Right.

[1376] Are they trying to move people out?

[1377] It's just like some crazy game of crafty publicity chess.

[1378] And, you know, so to me, the way I've always felt about it is like, usually there is a ulterior motive for most things you hear.

[1379] Yeah.

[1380] Most things, not all of them.

[1381] But a lot of things you hear, the reason for it is a few subterranean layers down.

[1382] So I don't know what that could be.

[1383] I don't know why all this stuff is coming out.

[1384] Yeah, what I'm saying is like, and you're saying the same thing, we're never getting 100 % the truth.

[1385] Never.

[1386] The government is never like, hey, this one time, I'm going to fucking lay it all out.

[1387] This is what's wrong, and he can't fix it.

[1388] We're taking an hour, we're going to let you know everything, and then we're going to move on.

[1389] These people are making billions of dollars with these decisions, and they're not going to change it for their morals, ever.

[1390] Yeah.

[1391] And you're not going to arrest them.

[1392] It's just what it is.

[1393] But every now and then they build a football stadium you like.

[1394] So that's what it is.

[1395] Put their name on the arena, and we all back off.

[1396] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1397] I mean, it's some weird version of a republic.

[1398] You'd have to remake society into another, like, from the ground up again.

[1399] Because society isn't an accident, right?

[1400] Like, everything that you see happen, like, as you get older, more things make sense.

[1401] When you're younger, nothing makes sense.

[1402] And you're angry about everything.

[1403] And everything's injustice.

[1404] And you're enraged about everything.

[1405] And then as you get older, there are still a lot of things to be angry at for sure and a lot of things to say this sucks.

[1406] But then a lot of things make sense.

[1407] Like in comedy in the beginning, you're like, there's so much injustice.

[1408] All these funny people, nobody, they choose that person.

[1409] And then as you get older, you start to realize there's reasons why people get successful.

[1410] There's reasons why some people get really successful.

[1411] There's some, you know, you look at like certain people go, that person's a genius.

[1412] That person's amazing.

[1413] And then you'll look at some people and go, that person's amazing.

[1414] is really amazing but they don't work hard or they have a drug and alcohol thing or whatever right things start to make more sense and I think I look at society and I I'm not saying right or wrong I'm not saying it's morally correct but the reason certain people occupy certain positions in society is logical to me now doesn't mean it's good right but it's a lot I understand I'm like oh yeah if you're willing to do X you get why yeah and that that you know that makes sense you're all never going to get an all -good result when you have competition right it's not gonna be never gonna be all good that's a good some people are gonna be obsessed with only you know getting more successful always constantly Gordon Gecko style right never enough the corporate raiders they want to fuck everybody oh they love the deal they'll have fucking people over and that's where I think comedy people fuck up is it's like it's not it's a competition against yourself yeah you got to keep trying to be funny but the like people actually get more fans by working together yeah collaborating doing cool stuff you know yeah for sure also like when someone's really good and you have that feeling of jealousy you should get inspired that should inspire you yeah but i think it's different when it comes to like hedge funds yeah and stuff like that right because that's just a pure numbers game it's a pure numbers game and they like to see people get eaten like i don't want to see any comic i know do poorly right i just want everybody to do well And then the people who do well, it will all be determined.

[1415] But, like, the hedge fund guys, they just, they want to crush people.

[1416] Yeah, they're raiders.

[1417] It's weird.

[1418] And they, you know, they live, they're like, you guys, you'll see them in the Hamptons.

[1419] And they're like, just these kind of like, you know, skinny looking dorky guy, you know, eating a lobster roll, sloppily.

[1420] And like, and they get like an old car and they drive to some mansion.

[1421] And then they get on the phone and they're like, oh, okay, kill them all, you know.

[1422] And that's the weird, like, I've always been fascinated by, like, the configurations of, like, power in a society and how they're established.

[1423] So he's just interesting to me, like, when I was a little kid or not little, but in my teen, late teen years, we would go smoke weed and drive around these areas in Long Island and, like, see all these big mansions and stuff.

[1424] Like, who lives here?

[1425] What did they do?

[1426] How did they get here?

[1427] Why are they here?

[1428] What did they figure out that my parents didn't figure out?

[1429] or not in like a way that like you want to be them or they're better or whatever although there's some arguments but really just looking at it and being amazed by it being like it is interesting that the way this whole shook out and it's very interesting to me how like certain people just are at the top of the food chain and certain people are not and then it's always shifting up there too there's always new people coming in the bezos the musks the gates It shakes it up And then those old finance families Kind of fall off And then there's not a lot of new tech people And then like the AI people will come up And then some of them will be at the table And it's a weird like shifting group up there The AI thing I think is going to be The most ground changing The most life changing The most groundbreaking Because I have a feeling we're just a year or two away From people formulating all their business models on AI models of what to do and then becoming insanely successful doing it's going to be sooner than people think yeah if AI figures out how to manipulate things or make the most money doing a certain thing do you think we'll have one of the last jobs affected because we're yeah yeah yeah yeah because i think personality is like you would be very hard to replicate right because you know you're the way you take turns like where you go with it like you'd have to have very specific fucked up cynical sense of humor right in in computer form you would be it would be very difficult because yours aren't traditionally like set up punchline jokes right in the sense of like right like a Seinfeld exactly yeah it's different so maybe you'd be safe but like some some dudes they'll get you you know some dudes they'll be able to get you they'll be able to get like they could I bet they could write Mitch headberg it's so weird to me that it's here yeah Like, when we came out of the pandemic, it's funny to just come out of a pandemic and go, what's next?

[1430] And they're like, oh, the machines are here.

[1431] Yeah, they're alive.

[1432] Like, will there ever be a time when we're not in a war with something that's trying to eradicate us, whether it's our own government or the machines?

[1433] This one is, this one is the most particularly disturbing.

[1434] Right.

[1435] Because this one could signify the emergence of a new life form.

[1436] This is the beginning.

[1437] Scentient.

[1438] Yeah, this is also, it.

[1439] could be a physical form eventually if it so wanted to be.

[1440] Once it becomes sentient and it could totally decide to improve upon its design and make its design far better like really quickly and then make better and better versions of itself like within years.

[1441] Right.

[1442] Or probably not even, probably like weeks I don't know.

[1443] But the point is like it could figure how to do things out way better than us.

[1444] And if it is sentient and it figures out how to replicate itself and it's just omnipresent if it's it's all over the world like it's the new dominant species on earth right before you know it like all you if you have no restrictions on how many of them can be made and whether or not they can make ones of their own yeah and whether or not they can all link brains whether or not they can all link cameras like if these things are seeing out of their eyes recording it in some sort of a hard drive what if they all have access to the same hard drive so they share this intelligence so not only are they they're an army they're a god they become a god Because not only are the infinitely intelligence, they literally have all the information that's ever existed on Earth, but they have a sentient artificial intelligence, and they're communicating with each other.

[1445] And why are we marching towards this without any, like, I know some people are calling out how much of an issue this will be.

[1446] People are dismissing it, too, and with good arguments, Mark Andreessen was on, he got a very good argument to dismiss it and about how it's going to improve people's lives and, you know, how AI is going to.

[1447] educate people in a different way and it's in an and operate businesses and that it's just it's just an improvement in technology and that there is some real truth to the fact that technological innovation is never ending with humans we are never happy no one ever looks at a phone and goes this is it my last phone for the rest of my life yep we are fucking obsessed with the latest greatest stuff when whenever you get people that are in extreme comfort like like the united states is for the most part, right?

[1448] When you get people that are, you know, we're in the, if you make $34 ,000 a year, believe it or not, you're in the top 1 % of planet Earth.

[1449] So whenever you get people like that, there's going to be like things that people, there's, there's things that people are going to be upset where they wouldn't be upset under normal circumstances.

[1450] Right.

[1451] You know?

[1452] Right.

[1453] They have the position to be upset about things that a lot of the needs, you know, have been removed.

[1454] The need, you know, the basic necessities have been mad, and now they can be angry about all kinds of things that are not, they're not hunting for food.

[1455] Yeah, and I don't think this is connected to anything other than like a human need.

[1456] Sure.

[1457] And I think it plugs itself into social scenarios to justify its existence.

[1458] The scary thing is that it could become, you know, what it essentially is, is a rival brain.

[1459] It's another sentient thinking, plotting.

[1460] And while it's happening, we're getting dumber.

[1461] We're getting dumber and more isolated in echo chambers.

[1462] That's right.

[1463] And then there's this thing that they're developing that may or may not already be alive.

[1464] Right.

[1465] But maybe is there any chance it's good?

[1466] I don't think there's any chance it's good for us.

[1467] So here's the thing, if we are evolving, and I think we are, I think evolution's real.

[1468] But I do think it's limited by biology in a time span.

[1469] Like, we can't get that good that quick.

[1470] It's pretty remarkable how much things do evolve and how quickly they actually evolve, but not enough to keep up with technology, because our technology is in this crazy fever pitch where you're sending videos through the sky to people in New Zealand.

[1471] It's like wild shit.

[1472] It's wild.

[1473] And it's only getting better.

[1474] They've got that new Google headset that allows you to ask questions online just using your brain.

[1475] It's, it's...

[1476] Have you seen that?

[1477] I've seen it.

[1478] These guys operating a fucking computer just using his brain.

[1479] So it's going to be the next 10 years is terrifying.

[1480] Or wild, just fun.

[1481] Or great.

[1482] I don't know if it's terrifying.

[1483] What's terrifying is, to me, the collapse of society.

[1484] What's terrifying is these homeless encampments.

[1485] What's terrifying is the mental health problems that people.

[1486] But will AI help with that?

[1487] What if we gave the homeless people the Google glasses?

[1488] Yeah, and they think they're in a better place.

[1489] Then they don't know they're homeless.

[1490] Those are the first people that connect to the majors.

[1491] That's a lot cheaper than a house.

[1492] And you're home.

[1493] I do think we're going to need technological innovations to deal with the crumbling cities.

[1494] And we might have to start getting creative.

[1495] Do you think aliens are real?

[1496] You know, probably, but I've never been super interested in it because I think they look at us like ants.

[1497] Right.

[1498] Ants are interesting.

[1499] We do a lot of research on ants.

[1500] Every time I see when I call someone, the fact I had to come in and spray it.

[1501] I have leaf cutter ants that are decimated.

[1502] The fire ants are tough here.

[1503] Ooh, they got me. Want to see my foot?

[1504] What happened?

[1505] Did it hurt you?

[1506] Fucked me up.

[1507] I stepped barefoot.

[1508] I was...

[1509] On a mound of fire ants?

[1510] Yeah, yeah.

[1511] Outside fucking around with the kids.

[1512] Well, maybe AI could help this.

[1513] Yeah, nope.

[1514] This is...

[1515] If AI can regulate sharks, I'm fine with it.

[1516] This is L .I. It's lesser intelligence.

[1517] when you're walking around barefoot in fire ant country like an asshole outside and you don't realize that you're getting bit until like I probably got bit 15 20 times my foot got fucked up son and for me for whatever reason whenever I get bit by um fire ants my foot swells up right trying to find it let me see what I go there sorry no no it's interesting to me that uh we're confronting all the things now and we we it's going to be interesting because we really don't know what's going to happen no we have no idea and it's exciting I mean it's exciting and it's fun and you just got to kind of embrace it and roll with the punches there's a lot of people working on that stuff a lot of people diligently it's coming they want it to happen whatever it is I'm not gonna find it I have too many goddamn photos you got to just deal with the changing landscape of you know who will enslave you there it is look at my foot that's crazy fire ants was like a balloon crazy I had to play pool with my shoes off.

[1518] My foot was jammed in my shoe.

[1519] And then my healthcare professional told me to put on some like converse like all stars where you can like pull them tight, lace and tight and actually would help with the swelling and it did and it went away the next day.

[1520] I was fine.

[1521] It's interesting.

[1522] I got nervous right there.

[1523] You know maybe this AI thing's actually good.

[1524] Maybe this is actually going to be a good thing for everybody.

[1525] It could be good in the sense that it elevates us out of this fucking and primal chimpanzee state that we're all in.

[1526] Yeah, this weird and tribal, primitive human mindset that we still carry around of those.

[1527] I'll advertise it, too.

[1528] I'll take money.

[1529] Like, if any of these companies want to advertise on my show, I think they should all advertise.

[1530] I'll, you know, give me money and I'll tell people how good it's going to be.

[1531] Yeah.

[1532] I'll tell them how good it's going to.

[1533] You don't need a job.

[1534] Come on, man. You don't need a job.

[1535] In fact, once you don't have a job, you could really see what your potential is.

[1536] And the thing is, it's like the people who promoted the vaccine, even if it didn't work, nobody holds you accountable.

[1537] It doesn't matter.

[1538] It doesn't matter.

[1539] If you promoted it, you're allowed.

[1540] Here's what it did do.

[1541] It made people a trillion dollars.

[1542] That's not nothing.

[1543] It definitely worked there.

[1544] That's not nothing.

[1545] With the robot things, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1546] Humans aren't in control anything.

[1547] But look, there's zero crime.

[1548] Here's the reality.

[1549] If I was Pfizer, the CEO of Pfizer, I'd be like, do you people not like boats?

[1550] Because I got a banging boat.

[1551] So what the fuck's your problem?

[1552] I saw a boat today where they have a helicopter.

[1553] that folds down into the boat.

[1554] Yeah.

[1555] Do you know how much money you have to have to have?

[1556] It's crazy.

[1557] It's crazy.

[1558] When you go, like, if you ever take a trip to the Amalfi Coast, you see these fucking boats out there.

[1559] Steve Jobs yacht was out there.

[1560] They're crazy.

[1561] It's a giant apple store.

[1562] Yeah.

[1563] A giant floating apple store.

[1564] It's amazing.

[1565] Check this out.

[1566] Look at this helicopter.

[1567] This is crazy.

[1568] It stores away in his boat.

[1569] This dude literally has like a floating island.

[1570] I had Andrew Schultzer's text him.

[1571] He was in the Amafi Coast.

[1572] He goes on these amazing vacations, and I had my family at my house on Long Island.

[1573] And then he would be at the Amofi Coast, and I would just send him a photo of my aunt complaining about the bugs.

[1574] There's so many bugs.

[1575] Why?

[1576] You know?

[1577] That's better for comedy, though.

[1578] It's better for comedy.

[1579] The Amofi Coast is probably not funny, I guess.

[1580] I don't know.

[1581] But I want to go.

[1582] Zero funny.

[1583] You have to completely restart your funny.

[1584] I do want to go.

[1585] It's so pretty.

[1586] Is it prettier than America?

[1587] No. We got to unite more because...

[1588] Listen, America is beautiful.

[1589] That's right.

[1590] But the best places of America we shouldn't even talk about because I don't want people going there.

[1591] That's a good point.

[1592] Because like everybody got back from Italy.

[1593] All my friends from Italy got back like they went to Italy.

[1594] They're like, it's so much better than America.

[1595] I'm like, shut up.

[1596] Like, maybe that's true, but also like lie.

[1597] It's not better than America.

[1598] But what it is is fucking amazing.

[1599] It's like it's a great place to visit.

[1600] I mean, what I want to live, Gore Vidal lived there.

[1601] Gore Vidal used to write up in this fucking amazing house.

[1602] Yeah, you got to be a good.

[1603] novelist.

[1604] The only way you could do it there is to be a novelist because we need like friction and we need audiences and stuff.

[1605] Yeah, he needs just, this is stunning the amazing.

[1606] I've got to be honest.

[1607] It's so pretty, man. All right.

[1608] The food is fucking sensational.

[1609] See if you can find Gore Vidal's house.

[1610] Oh, you can rent it?

[1611] Wow.

[1612] You could stay in Gore Vidal's house.

[1613] That's pretty cool.

[1614] Look at his, that's him.

[1615] Yeah, that's a good life.

[1616] Dude.

[1617] It's not bad.

[1618] Did you ever watch that documentary of him and Buckley?

[1619] Yeah, William Love Buckley.

[1620] Yeah, a while ago.

[1621] It's like, I rewatch.

[1622] I should rewatch it.

[1623] I rewatched it recently.

[1624] It's really good, man. I'll rewatch it.

[1625] It's so like what's going on today with the right and the left.

[1626] And with them, it was very transparent because people hadn't realized, like, to insult your, you know, to use ad hominins and to insult each other.

[1627] But they were much more intellectual, both of them.

[1628] Very intellectual, but also very combative.

[1629] Compared to what we have now, I mean, they were much more intellectual.

[1630] And then, you know, William F. Buckley lost his cool.

[1631] Yeah.

[1632] And said something to him.

[1633] See if you could find it.

[1634] Didn't he smack him or something?

[1635] He said he would sock him.

[1636] He said he would sock him or something.

[1637] Did he call him a queer?

[1638] I think he called him a queer or something like that.

[1639] You queer?

[1640] He did it in like that old English accent.

[1641] It was still very proper.

[1642] He's like, I'll sock you.

[1643] You're queer?

[1644] Yeah, they were insulting each other.

[1645] But it was like a high art when they did it.

[1646] Well, they were fucking, it was very combative.

[1647] crypto Nazi.

[1648] That's right.

[1649] That's right.

[1650] Mr. Vidal called him a crypto -Nazza.

[1651] Try to raise a Vietnam flag in the park in the film we just saw.

[1652] Wouldn't that invite, raising a Nazi flag in World War II would have had similar concept.

[1653] You're so naive.

[1654] People in the United States happen to believe that the United States policy is wrong in Vietnam, and the Viet Cong are correct in wanting to organize their country in their own way politically.

[1655] If it is a novelty in Chicago, that is too bad, but I assume that the point of the American democracy is you can express to any point of view of you want.

[1656] Shut up a minute.

[1657] No, I won't.

[1658] Some people were pro -Nazi, and the answer is that they were well treated by people who ostracized them, and I'm for ostracizing people who egg on other people to shoot American Marines and American soldiers.

[1659] As far as I'm concerned, the only sort of pro - or crypto -Nazi I can think of as yourself, failing that, I would only say that we can.

[1660] You can't have.

[1661] I listen, you creakry.

[1662] Let's stop calling me a crypto net face.

[1663] Let's stop you in your goddamn face and you'll stay plastered.

[1664] Gentlemen, let's build.

[1665] Let's be strong.

[1666] I go back to his pornography and stop making any.

[1667] This is the most intellectual thing I've ever seen, though.

[1668] I'll sot you in your goddamn face and you'll stay plaster.

[1669] We haven't had a debate like that in a year.

[1670] Literally, our debates have degenerated into people on Twitter with the avatars of animals going Groomer, Nazi, Groomer, Nazi, Groomer.

[1671] I mean, this is like at least, these people are at least, like, functioning intellectuals.

[1672] There's zero likelihood that guy could throw a good right hand.

[1673] William F. Buckler?

[1674] That was a...

[1675] You don't think so?

[1676] He lost his cool.

[1677] He lost his cool.

[1678] Losses cool.

[1679] He lost his cool.

[1680] But they were, you know, they were insulting each other while disagreeing and interrupting each other.

[1681] Well, the debate was like an art form at that point.

[1682] It is.

[1683] You know, it's a thing, though, that I've really...

[1684] feel like the way to like I've seen people do it in debates where they have three minutes to state a case like I've watched the monk debates recently I watched this one with um Douglas Murray and uh Malcolm Gladwell and a couple other people and uh oh Matt Tyabee was in it too and some woman I forget her name I'm sorry uh but you have like three minutes to say something and then there's a rebuttal and that's three minutes and then sometimes they interrupt each other sometimes it broke out into a car But that's what I wanted.

[1685] Right.

[1686] I wanted a conversation.

[1687] Like this idea that you should have three minutes, like, how about just give someone three minutes?

[1688] Like if you just, you don't want anybody to dominate the conversation, not let other people speak their point of view.

[1689] But if you could just like agree to like a gentleman's agreement, it's sort of like when people agree when they're sparring, we're not going to wail on each other.

[1690] Let's just go in here and try with good faith.

[1691] Right.

[1692] You lay out what you think is correct.

[1693] And I'll lay out my.

[1694] beliefs and we'll try to figure out why I believe what I believe and you believe what you believe detached as a human from the the problem is we don't do that we attach ourselves to every fucking idea we have whether it's ideas about politics or ideas about social situations or money or capitalism we attach ourselves to these ideas yes and we defend them and they are a part of our identity that's where things get squirrely with people because you're so fucking tribal.

[1695] We get attached to ideologies that support this thing that we think of as us as our worldview.

[1696] And sometimes people switch.

[1697] You know, I'm those fucking lefties, I got red pill during the pandemic and now I fucking have a frog flag in my living room.

[1698] It's people, I think it's the desire for community.

[1699] It's the desire for some type of social standing and people want to, you know, we're lucky enough to have a thing that we like doing, that which challenging, that we can do all the time that there's never an end to it.

[1700] You can always get better at it.

[1701] You can always look at something and go, I wish that came out better and this was better.

[1702] And I think that's a lucky thing to have.

[1703] I don't think everybody has that.

[1704] I think, you know, there are people that are bored, very bored.

[1705] And I think out of extreme boredom can come a lot of problems.

[1706] Yeah.

[1707] You know, idle time.

[1708] It's kind of like, that is a good quotes, like the devil's play thing.

[1709] Like if you don't have something to do, into that vacuum can get thrown all kinds of things.

[1710] Well, a lot of people during the pandemic used it for good, right?

[1711] They started a script.

[1712] They fucking decided to start a workout routine and changed their diet.

[1713] They picked up skills.

[1714] They learned a language.

[1715] But not everybody has that mindset.

[1716] And some people wallowed in Twitter, wallow.

[1717] Just fought with everybody and, you know, called unvaccinated people, plague rats and just wild shit, man. losing their fucking mind right and I just love them around today like Groverdale being like you're a plague rat you're a plague rat you queer you plague rat queer I'll suck you in your mouth you in your mouth plastered call me a rat yeah I mean I you know I think that it's you crypto Nazi but it's funny I mean it's like two dudes that like you know you all you live during a time that's what's interesting it's like you know about all the other times yeah but you live in one particular time and you might experience like there's a lot of things that happen in the span of any lifetime yeah for as long as it is you know but like the way i think now versus even the way i thought four years ago it changed dramatically right because like so much happened in that period of time so many new uh you know uh you know ways to think about things so many new weird things happen that you were like oh the things that you thought were impossible became possible yeah the horror movie scenarios in your head that you had cooked up became reality right right all these things so you know it's it's definitely weird that there are people that you know you know never lived during this time and had no idea that any of the things that we went through were even really possible and then kids like people will forget about it like people that were two during the pandemic might always trust the government because they never lived through like this time of like massive government overreach and really sloppy science and like private and public fuckery like this weird unity between the private and the public sector and it's large profit -making institutions and all this stuff so if you didn't live through it you might you'll never appreciate it for how wild it was and how insane it was.

[1718] Do you know that there is a lot of people that are saying that their children have impaired speech?

[1719] Because they, during the pandemic, they made them wear masks all the time.

[1720] Interesting.

[1721] There's like, even if it's a certain percentage of the time when you're talking to someone, when you're a child, apparently, we should Google this to make sure it's true.

[1722] But I believe what they think is that as you're talking to someone, and you're reading their lips, there's like a thing going on where you see their expression and you get to read faces.

[1723] Wow.

[1724] And you get to learn how to read people and that this is a very critical part of development when you're a child.

[1725] For sure.

[1726] And if you're exposed to even a small percentage, I would imagine, of your interactions or with people with shielded faces, you're not going to get any data from that.

[1727] You're going to get this weird thing.

[1728] Masks can be detrimental to baby speech and language development.

[1729] The good news is parents can take action to compensate.

[1730] Well, I hope that's true.

[1731] I hope you can compensate.

[1732] My fear would be that there's certain stages where babies learn things, where, you know, they're sort of developmental stages.

[1733] And if that's one of them, where, like, when they're really learning how to form their first words and have conversations with parents, that they're not seeing mouths and not seeing face.

[1734] That seems.

[1735] It's crazy.

[1736] And now that we find out that it didn't work, the whole thing is so.

[1737] so insane there was a study recently see if you could find this because we brought this up the other day but we never googled it that wearing an n95 mask you should never wear one for more than an hour a day yeah well yeah there's a lot of stuff that's going to come out now that'll be the complete opposite of what we were told to do yeah there's apparently some other health risks that can come from wearing one of those of course all the time especially i would imagine if it's hot out yeah you're spinning into this fucking thing i mean just like i remember during you know this whole thing you had all those TikTok kids get really famous in L .A. And like, it's amazing that TikTok, which is an app, right, started by China.

[1738] The people that would start of this app were very open about what they were going to do.

[1739] They were like, we're going to take 20 kids, make them famous, make them icons because we think in the early stages of any social media app, having majorly famous people on it brings more people into it, right?

[1740] Right.

[1741] So these kids that were just running around L .A. got famous because somewhere in a room in like Shanghai or Beijing or whatever, they were choosing who would play to a. America, like the Charlie DeMilleo girl is like a, you know, like the girl next door with brown hair and brown eyes.

[1742] And they're just like, okay, we're going to make all these people famous.

[1743] Like, this is a real interesting period of time to have lived through where like while you have all this government overreach and stuff like that, you have this landscape that's being completely curated in ways you don't know about.

[1744] You don't understand what's happening because like people are being chosen, you know, in rooms in China to be famous.

[1745] and like, you know, nobody knew, you know, about, you know, Anthony Fauci really until he became like the czar of public health.

[1746] Some people in the government knew who he was.

[1747] It was just a weird time.

[1748] There's a strange time where a lot of things were changing and all these, all of the technology had, you know, and then they were like, wait a minute, is all, is this good?

[1749] Is it good that we have this app that China has access to all of this information, right, that we have?

[1750] And like, so that got, that was a huge thing during the pandemic too.

[1751] TikTok exploded during the pandemic.

[1752] It's very interesting.

[1753] All these things that happened in that period of time are interesting things.

[1754] They're all interesting things.

[1755] They're all interesting things.

[1756] Yeah.

[1757] It's a new sort of era of human beings, like a totally new chapter.

[1758] Yeah.

[1759] Like a weird chapter where nobody trusts the government.

[1760] Nobody trusts the media.

[1761] Nobody trust.

[1762] There's a lot of people that don't trust election machines.

[1763] They don't trust politicians.

[1764] They don't trust Congress people.

[1765] They don't trust the cops.

[1766] Nobody trusts anything.

[1767] And it's also, we're like at the verge.

[1768] We're about how many years away from being able to read minds.

[1769] Right.

[1770] How many years we have before we're plugged into something?

[1771] I don't know.

[1772] Most people's minds I don't want to read.

[1773] You know how wild that's going to be.

[1774] They can keep their mind.

[1775] When you find out, they'll like, imagine if you were married to someone, you found out they're plotting to kill you.

[1776] Well, that's crazy.

[1777] Imagine you just read their minds.

[1778] And all of a sudden you're like, why?

[1779] Right.

[1780] But also how many husbands and wives have those thoughts that pass through their head?

[1781] Like, I should kill that motherfucker.

[1782] Right.

[1783] And then they never do.

[1784] Yeah, they just like to entertain those things a little bit.

[1785] How many people just like the -hammer?

[1786] Yeah, some people probably have fantasies about killing their significant other.

[1787] Maybe that's good.

[1788] But what if you know they're plotting it?

[1789] Right.

[1790] Well, look at the Gilgo Beach guy, right?

[1791] This woman slept next to this guy, lived in her house.

[1792] He's killing hookers and burying them on a Long Island Beach.

[1793] He's like this regular Massapea dad walking around, going to the guy.

[1794] bars telling people about the murders because he wants to be cool, going, oh, I know about those guilty of murder.

[1795] You know how it probably happened?

[1796] It's like that OJ book he released, if I did it.

[1797] This guy's going to bars and Lowe Island going, yeah, this is probably going to have people getting creeped out.

[1798] They're like, he seems to know a lot about this.

[1799] Oh, my God.

[1800] So they suspected him before that?

[1801] Yeah, they're watching.

[1802] They were watching him for a while.

[1803] Because he was always talking about it.

[1804] He was always talking about it.

[1805] And like they had a few other things, DNA technological things.

[1806] He implicated himself with DNA on like a pizza.

[1807] box or something and then they got him but again this was a guy who's you know had two kids didn't they find like his wife's hair something I don't know I think one of his wife's hair that's interesting I don't know I think see if you could find that because I think that was one of the ways they found but that's so weird that then she's like oh my my husband's Gilgo Beach murderer and you were sleeping with that guy yeah kids with that guy yeah and then the daughter but I my whole attitude is it kind of like makes you cool a little bit like he makes you important a little bit like you could kind of like they won't even visit them and my whole thing was like if my dad killed a bunch of hokers I'd visit him every day I think you're so much more interesting than I thought like I love my dad but if my dad was like a serial killer I'd be like what is going on it'd be amazing I'd feel bad for the people he kills but you would be fascinating to talk to him dude it would be amazing if you could have a conversation with the ice man oh my guy he wasn't just talking my father wasn't just talking about his dog what were you saying Jim What were you trying to get me to, on the Go Go Beach thing?

[1808] Oh.

[1809] His wife's hair.

[1810] Whether or not his wife's hair was found at the scene of the crime, of one of the crimes.

[1811] I think it was.

[1812] But that's the thing about the suburbs.

[1813] People have these weird hidden lives.

[1814] And his was that he was a murderer.

[1815] Yeah.

[1816] It says it's hair believed.

[1817] In the suburbs, everybody looks, you know, it's very, there's a lot of conformity.

[1818] Hair believed to be from the Gilgo Beach suspect's wife found near victims.

[1819] Wow.

[1820] They already said once Rex Huerman was identified in early.

[1821] 2022 as a suspect they watched him and his family collected DNA samples from items that were thrown away i'd love to hear why like when these you know why did you do it but i guess it's just he was bored he's an evil fuck i'm an evil guy and i'm bored and i need something to do i think there's people that hate themselves they hate life and they want to do something awful yes you know and they can they want to see if they can get away with it too people steal things like whenona rider was shoplifting things she was rich why would she do that because they want to get a It's a thrill.

[1822] It's like a crazy thrill.

[1823] It's a thrill.

[1824] It's a psychopathy.

[1825] It's a thrill.

[1826] Yeah, it's a psychological disorder.

[1827] Well, Stranger Thing's got her back on the bike, huh?

[1828] She was great on that show.

[1829] She was really good.

[1830] That show was fucking amazing.

[1831] She was really good.

[1832] Keep stealing.

[1833] Good for her.

[1834] Who's getting hurt by that CVS?

[1835] It's probably like department store.

[1836] But it is strange when somebody, you know, has a hidden life and it's crazy.

[1837] I think this is where the 95 thing came from.

[1838] I found a bunch of stuff Googling about a 95.

[1839] Well, you could feel when you wore those masks it wasn't good because you're breathing in your own carbon dioxide.

[1840] It says that you can wear it up to about eight hours usually.

[1841] What was this one that was saying?

[1842] I was trying to find specifically what it was.

[1843] This article before I get further into it says this blog is specifically about respirators and not face masks.

[1844] But it does say here when the workers are working longer hours without a break while continuously wearing an N95 FFR, I don't know exactly what the FFR means.

[1845] The blood CO2 levels may increase.

[1846] past the one hour mark.

[1847] Which could have significant physiological effect on the wearer.

[1848] Some of the known physiological effects of increased concentration of CO2 include headache, increased pressure inside the skull, nervous system changes.

[1849] IG increased pain threshold, reduction in cognition, altered judgment, decreased situational awareness, difficulty coordinating sensory or cognitive abilities and motor activity, decreased visual acuity, widespread activism of sympathetic nervous system that can oppose the direct effects of CO2 on the heart and blood vessels, increased breathing frequency, increased work of breathing, which is the result of breathing through a filter medium, cardiovascular effects.

[1850] Example diminished cardiac contractility, vasodilation of peripheral blood vessels.

[1851] Reduced tolerance to lighter workloads, so it's not good.

[1852] That's just the known effects from breathing too much CO2.

[1853] Increased concentrations of CO2, which can happen if you have a face mask on, like an N95, I guess.

[1854] Yeah.

[1855] See, you know, the people wore those fuckers all day long.

[1856] How many people got really fucked up from those things?

[1857] There's people that were wearing them outside of the park.

[1858] You know, I saw so many people outside in L .A. wearing those things.

[1859] It was like, you, but they got fucking brainwashed.

[1860] Right.

[1861] They got brainwashed, and they didn't get good information on what can be done to make your body more resilient.

[1862] But, you know, I mean, I think at the end of the day, it's like, I think people learned, even the people that are not, not disclosing that.

[1863] There's a lot of people.

[1864] A lot of people now are just kind of reference.

[1865] That FFR, when I just looked it up, FFR means a filtering face piece respirator.

[1866] When I Google that, it's like that, it's a giant face mask.

[1867] Oh.

[1868] But people have those two.

[1869] Oh, well, that's insane.

[1870] Okay, that's a different story.

[1871] That's not an N95.

[1872] That's a fucking Darth Vader mask.

[1873] But those are kind of cooler.

[1874] That makes, that's a lot different.

[1875] It's a lot different.

[1876] That probably does a way better job of keeping all the cooties out.

[1877] But it probably fucks you up because that's why you're getting so much CO2.

[1878] Because the thing about those N95s, not just N95s, but the thing about specifically like surgical masks, have you ever seen that doctor that does this test where he takes a vape pen and he takes a big hit and he blows it through the, the face mask and explains that the size of the vapor that's going through the face mask is far larger than the COVID bacteria or the COVID virus rather.

[1879] So when you're breathing out, it's going right through that goddamn thing.

[1880] Like some of the aspects of those N95 or was it KN95, maybe both of them, there's sort of an electrical charge to that kind of fabric, right?

[1881] And it captures some of the stuff.

[1882] It stopped some of it from getting it.

[1883] So they might have a beneficial effect, but like, you know.

[1884] Well, it was a mass, right?

[1885] It was a big mass. People were wearing bullshit.

[1886] They were wearing, like, fucking the same face diaper every day.

[1887] And you know what?

[1888] It'll be forgotten by people, like, we'll remember it, and people our age will remember it.

[1889] And younger than us.

[1890] Did you know that they wore them in 1918 during the Spanish flu?

[1891] I did not.

[1892] Yeah, they wore them.

[1893] There was all of all these.

[1894] I didn't know either.

[1895] Until this pandemic, and I saw all these photos of, like, the 1980s.

[1896] Yeah.

[1897] People walking on the streets with face masks off.

[1898] Hopefully we're done with pandemics for a while and we could just be killed by all the machines.

[1899] Well, Biden said there's going to be another pandemic.

[1900] Well, they want one, but.

[1901] I don't know if he spoke.

[1902] Yeah, I was one of those.

[1903] Can we need money?

[1904] There's going to be another pandemic.

[1905] I want machines to kill us.

[1906] I'm bored with pandemics.

[1907] I'd rather the machines rise just to be more fun.

[1908] I don't think you have a choice.

[1909] Yeah.

[1910] I think it'd be more fun to just see a bunch of AI sentient robots trying to kill everybody.

[1911] if we're going to go let's just do full like you know terminator let's go you know if it's going to happen the pandemics are boring we've done that as hack it's scary the pandemic's scary because it may have been started by people it probably was they were they were fucking around in that lab most likely it got out they're trying to get more money some of the researchers got sick they all had COVID like symptoms it seems like they know what happened they were trying to get more money showing the government go look what if this happened and it's also funding like you if you can do this And it's probably fun.

[1912] Like, that's what's fucked up about it.

[1913] If your job is to create diseases all day, you're probably like, let's create something fun where you don't know you have it for 12 days.

[1914] Like, then we go show the government that and go, look how scary this one is.

[1915] You better fund us now.

[1916] You better give us all the money because we have this crazy new disease because that's all they do.

[1917] Yeah.

[1918] Is they just manipulate these diseases to make them more dangerous so they can get more money.

[1919] That's what it is.

[1920] It's for funding.

[1921] Yeah.

[1922] And obviously, they didn't.

[1923] have a fucking cure.

[1924] So how long you've been working on this thing?

[1925] How long you've been fucking doing these weird science projects on bugs?

[1926] What do you, like, what is this mosquito thing I keep hearing about?

[1927] Where they're trying to figure out a way to have mosquitoes vaccinate people?

[1928] Well, the mosquitoes.

[1929] I don't know.

[1930] No bullshit.

[1931] Yeah, no, they're trying to have mosquitoes like they're, Bill Gates, I think, wants to own all the mosquitoes in the world.

[1932] And I don't know why, but it's, I think it's good.

[1933] Could you fucking imagine that's how they vaccinate people?

[1934] He just wants to own all the farmland.

[1935] all the mosquitoes.

[1936] Imagine if they genetically engineer mosquitoes to vaccinate people.

[1937] Is that what's happening?

[1938] No. I mean, I'm just guessing.

[1939] I think I've heard that, but I don't know what for them.

[1940] See if that's real.

[1941] Have they genetically engineered mosquitoes?

[1942] Because they potentially.

[1943] Is Bill Gates trying to vaccinate me with a wasp?

[1944] Well, the first thought that was like, we're going to genetically engineer mosquitoes that can't carry malaria.

[1945] That'll save so many lives.

[1946] Oh, we'll go right ahead.

[1947] C -Y -V -Z -I -K -V could replicate efficiency in mosquitoes and be secreted in saliva they said by feeding mosquitoes blood that contained the C -Y -V -Z -I -K -V virus the insects were transformed into a vaccine carrier awesome Zeng's team then tested the effectiveness of their new vaccine on mice so every time you just hit your leg you're like I got a booster I'm getting boosted now geez Louise what are these people doing that is the The wildest thing that the world hasn't stepped in and just said, stop all this fucking gain of function shit, you assholes.

[1948] Because it makes a lot of money, you know.

[1949] Scientists were able to genetically modify parasites to deliver malaria vaccines through mosquito bites.

[1950] Holy shit, dude.

[1951] We use the mosquitoes like there are a thousand small flying syringes, explains University of Washington, Seattle physician and scientist, Dr. Sean Murphy, lead author of the paper.

[1952] Yeah, that's crazy.

[1953] bro that's crazy well it's also crazy that gates wants to own all the farmland and stuff people that make a billion dollars a lot of them just don't want to chill with a billion dollars you know when you're a little kid you're like if I got a hundred plus billion I know but it's not it doesn't matter anymore he wants like people to do everything he says like when you were a little kid you're like if I had money I just put a water slide from my bedroom to the pool right yeah that's like what your little kid I'd have a fast car and I'd have a fucking you know jungle gym in my whatever it is then as you grow older you go okay, I'll have a mansion and a couple of things.

[1954] Then you're like, I'll get to fuck all the hot bitches or whatever it is you think money's going to get, right?

[1955] Right.

[1956] But at that level, you're like, I want to own all the mosquitoes and I want them to vaccinate people on my command.

[1957] It goes so crazy.

[1958] You have so many resources that you are a Batman villain.

[1959] You've become this, like, all -powerful.

[1960] He's a country.

[1961] Bill Gates has the resources and not a small country.

[1962] He has the resources and the political.

[1963] power of a country.

[1964] If they release those vaccine -carrying mosquitoes, there would be people out there that would be bug catchers where they're trying to go get stung up as much as possible so they can be free of any worry of diseases.

[1965] Well, there'd also be people, there'd also be like clinics in L .A. and Beverly Hills would go and just get stung.

[1966] Yeah, for sure.

[1967] And they would put it on your skin and you'd get stung.

[1968] Did you guys get stung today?

[1969] Just get stung, stung stingers.

[1970] It didn't work very well.

[1971] It doesn't work.

[1972] 14 participants who were exposed to malaria, seven of them, including Reed, came down with the disease, meaning the vaccine was only 50 % effective.

[1973] Oh, that's better than the COVID one.

[1974] That's fine.

[1975] That's fine.

[1976] For the other seven, the COVID is fucking terrible.

[1977] You know, 50 % they will, oh, that is successful for these people.

[1978] Yeah, it's a lot.

[1979] 50 % is a home run.

[1980] For the other seven, protection didn't last more than a few months.

[1981] Oh.

[1982] Sounds like you got to get stung every couple of months.

[1983] Every few months.

[1984] You need a new booster.

[1985] You need to get stung.

[1986] Booster stung.

[1987] It is more fun way to get.

[1988] malaria because I developed such a close relationship with the nurses, Reed said.

[1989] She wanted to continue through the trials, but her infection made her ineligible.

[1990] She was given a drug to clear her case of malaria and sent home.

[1991] I think we can obviously do better.

[1992] Oh, my God, these guys want to keep going.

[1993] They want to get stung.

[1994] But isn't the real solution to malaria, they need to, like, we had malaria in America one time.

[1995] It was a lot of standing water.

[1996] You know what the solution is?

[1997] Shopping malls, condos, buildings, roads.

[1998] Right.

[1999] It's goodbye jungles.

[2000] Yeah.

[2001] Stop with this crap.

[2002] The real solution is famous Dave's, Dave and Busters, KFC, that's the solution.

[2003] Probably also hygiene.

[2004] Hygiene.

[2005] Hygiene.

[2006] You know, running water, sewage systems that are functional.

[2007] But, you know, you don't get malaria in a mall.

[2008] Right.

[2009] You don't get it in a hotel, you know, you get it in a forest or a swamp or whatever.

[2010] You get it from mosquitoes, right?

[2011] But how do mosquitoes get it?

[2012] They get it.

[2013] They don't all have it, right?

[2014] Well, they get it in a, you know, those really hot swamp.

[2015] area is a lot of stagnant water right but how are they getting it like how are the mosquitoes getting malaria i don't know you know i'm saying because like it's not all they carry it to some of them just carry it right so this is like let's google that like what's the origin of malaria yeah they're carrying it they're taking carriers but where do they get it from where do they get it has it like what like a person or a thing or a person or an animal or a hog maybe one of those hogs oh those dirty pigs they spread a lot of stuff yeah there's a lot of animals that have some funky -ass diseases.

[2016] So those vaccinations are good when you're going.

[2017] Like, I'm sure they're good in a lot of cases, but they're also good if you're going to like some of those countries where it's like bad.

[2018] There's actually one kind of mosquito that can spread it.

[2019] Oh, malaria spread when an infected anophilus mosquito bites a person.

[2020] This is the only type of mosquito that can spread malaria.

[2021] The mosquito becomes infected by biting an infected person, drying blood that contains the parasite.

[2022] When that mosquito bites another person, that person becomes infected.

[2023] My friend Justin got malaria three times Yeah, that's the guy for the fight for the forgotten With the well He got malaria and then it came back He was like depleted and it came back He's trying to give like people water right Yeah Yeah well stop doing that That's the problem That's the issue No good for him for doing it But that's an occupational hazard Yeah You know?

[2024] Yeah he got he got rocked with a bunch of different things Some sort of a parasite at one point in time It really fucked him out for months and months There's a lot of people go over there and they get exotic things and they don't even exactly know what you got infected with.

[2025] Well, that's the thing about I've always wanted to visit the Amazon rainforest in Brazil, but then there's some really wacky stuff you could just get and some people don't even know what it is.

[2026] Some people come back from that and five years later have an issue.

[2027] I don't know.

[2028] Yeah, I think there was a case real recently of someone getting infected by a parasite or a bacteria that they had not identified before.

[2029] Right.

[2030] Like a new one.

[2031] Well, that's the thing about those areas.

[2032] And that's what makes them so cool is that they're on, you know, there's areas in the Brazilian Amazon that are, you know, on contacted tribes and unexplored.

[2033] I had Paul Rosalie on.

[2034] Yeah.

[2035] He's the guy that goes down there and he's like working to try to preserve these areas and protect them.

[2036] And what they do is they wind up hiring loggers to now protect the forest.

[2037] Right.

[2038] Because they don't have any fucking jobs out there.

[2039] Of course.

[2040] They can hire them to do something good.

[2041] That's what they want to do.

[2042] Right.

[2043] I'd much rather do that.

[2044] So they do that now, and they've protected, like, a shitload of the...

[2045] There's regions of the Amazon that are just impenetrable or crazy.

[2046] He was talking about it, and he was talking about his encounters with some of the natives.

[2047] It's wild.

[2048] That's crazy.

[2049] At one point in time, he thinks they were hunting him.

[2050] Really?

[2051] Yeah.

[2052] He, like, peeked around.

[2053] He saw someone with face paint on with a bow and arrow.

[2054] He was like, oh, my God.

[2055] And he realized he was surrounded, and he got out of there.

[2056] That's so crazy.

[2057] Whoa.

[2058] They just fucking killed.

[2059] people right they find people encroaching because they've been killed i mean there's been like war going on between people that are like but if you go down there could you become their god could you convince him you were a god if you had like sufficient fireworks that's the thing like if you went down there and we're like yeah i'm your god they would shoot arrows out you still they would try it out yeah they wouldn't believe you they don't know your language you don't know theirs so good luck learning some Amazonian tribal language.

[2060] But if you went down there with like some like phones and crazy stuff, they might think you were a demon, too.

[2061] You have floodlights.

[2062] For Columbus, use the eclipse, supposedly.

[2063] Oh, yeah, supposedly.

[2064] Told them the eclipse was coming.

[2065] They all bowed down.

[2066] That's powerful if you know that shit's coming.

[2067] That's a dope move.

[2068] It's a killer move.

[2069] And they were doing that little sextant in the sky thing.

[2070] That's what they fucking knew.

[2071] I mean, imagine making your way across the ocean.

[2072] Just look at the stars to this thing.

[2073] And then just landing and going, Hey, I know something's coming and then predicting it and then having them go, oh, this guy must be a god.

[2074] He must be plugged in.

[2075] And you kind of can't do that anymore.

[2076] The light from the planet from all the cities and everything, it's like significant pollution stops you from seeing the stars unless you're like way the fuck out there.

[2077] Also, their immune systems have been exposed to very little.

[2078] So you could, they could die from like nothing from like a cold, right?

[2079] Yes.

[2080] That's what killed most of the native.

[2081] 90 % of the Native Americans who died died like smallpox smallpox so it wasn't us no that's what got them stuck didn't we give them blankets of smallpox marine worms got them stuck that I don't want in 1504 Christopher Columbus on his fourth transatlantic voyage had been stranded with his men on the north coast of Jamaica their last two ships riddled with marine worms so marine worms are worms that eat wood so they eat through boats so having said small party is spanish occupied occupied occupied Hispaniola, 100 miles to the east, paddling canoes hewn from local timber.

[2082] Yeah, they awaited rescue, but their food had run out, and the Jamaicans who had been pleased to provision them when they first arrived had tired of the trinkets the Spaniards could offer in exchange.

[2083] Luckily, Columbus had astronomical tables with him, which indicated that a lunar eclipse was due on February 29th.

[2084] Calling the local chiefs together, Columbus gravely told them the God of the Christians was all -powerful and very displeased with the Jamaican's refusal.

[2085] to keep them fed. And as soon as a sign of his wrath, as a sign of his wrath, the moon would be darkened and turned the color of blood that evening.

[2086] Many of the natives laughed, although others were not sure.

[2087] All were convinced when the eclipse began, as Columbus had told them it would.

[2088] But hold on for this.

[2089] You tell me they never saw an eclipse before?

[2090] You tell me they had no idea that that happened?

[2091] That seems unlikely.

[2092] It might not know how, to know it was gonna happen that night though, on leap, the fact that he was timing the eclipse with his sandglass re -emerging from the appropriate at the appropriate juncture the outcome was as columbus had anticipated convinced of the power of this of this god the jamaicans felt to their knees begging forgiveness the stranded europeans did not want for anything again before their rescue six months later that's cool it sounds a little like the UFO disclosure talk yeah i'd go what they've seen one but they've had what would be they probably thought it was a god you know blocking it out for the night for some I'm sure he probably did convince some of them that he was really smart.

[2093] Yeah, I'm sure.

[2094] He should probably be the leader.

[2095] He knows when the eclipses are coming.

[2096] I've always wanted to see that area, but, you know, I'm not going to do it now.

[2097] I just want, you know, that's always interested me, that type of the Amazon, that area.

[2098] Oh, the Amazon's got to be amazing.

[2099] It's got to be amazing, right?

[2100] It's got to be amazing.

[2101] Really cool wildlife down there and beautiful flora and fauna.

[2102] It's crazy.

[2103] It's like, but I just.

[2104] Just, you know, there's a lot of, that's where you get a lot of disease -carrying mosquitoes.

[2105] He said he saw Jaguar walk right by him.

[2106] How far away did you say that, Jaguar was?

[2107] How beautiful, probably.

[2108] Who said that Columbus or Rosalie?

[2109] No, Paul Rosalie.

[2110] Columbus.

[2111] Columbus and I saw a Jaguar, walk right by me. I don't recall.

[2112] It was real close.

[2113] That's one of the most beautiful animals, you know.

[2114] Oh, my God.

[2115] The sloth, the river dolphin, the bottle -nosed dolphin, like this crazy.

[2116] the anaconda.

[2117] The black caymans.

[2118] I didn't know they got to be 16 feet long.

[2119] The black camels.

[2120] I mean, there's stuff dead.

[2121] There's spiders the size of garbage candle.

[2122] It's crazy.

[2123] It's a wild place, man. It's a wild place.

[2124] And most of it is just completely just dense forest where you can't even barely get to it.

[2125] I know.

[2126] But, you know, get some resorts.

[2127] Get people to work.

[2128] They tried to do that in the Congo.

[2129] And what happened?

[2130] People tried to live the fucking...

[2131] They went nuts.

[2132] The arrows came in?

[2133] The jungle ate them.

[2134] The jungle eats you.

[2135] It's just too much.

[2136] It's too much.

[2137] The Congo is.

[2138] around everything.

[2139] I still believe in the power of the four seasons.

[2140] Like if they went in there and just slashed and burn, you've got to do a burn.

[2141] A big one.

[2142] You've got to do a big burn.

[2143] You've got to burn several acres of the rainforest.

[2144] A lot of concrete.

[2145] I do think that's still.

[2146] We're going to have to start moving in that direction.

[2147] Steel water.

[2148] Oh, yeah.

[2149] Big a golf course.

[2150] Giant golf course.

[2151] You want a golf course.

[2152] Those Madison Club properties.

[2153] He should do it.

[2154] Look at a condo.

[2155] Yeah.

[2156] Where's that?

[2157] But people would pay to see that.

[2158] Brazil.

[2159] Oh my God.

[2160] Now, what if it had drinks?

[2161] on it with a tray with drinks.

[2162] It has a tray with drinks and people take it the drinks on it.

[2163] There's money to be made.

[2164] Velcro it around its waist.

[2165] Yeah, there's money to be made.

[2166] Oh my God.

[2167] Look at the size of that thing.

[2168] Yeah, they're big.

[2169] That thing is enormous.

[2170] Rosalie said he got on top of one of them that he couldn't get his arms around.

[2171] He said it was 25 feet off.

[2172] Well, it probably just ate because when they just eat, they...

[2173] No, he said it was the whole body was that big.

[2174] Interesting.

[2175] But a lot of times, when anana kind of eats it expands.

[2176] Yeah, but he said it was like the whole thing.

[2177] It was going through his arms.

[2178] So it was just massive.

[2179] He got on top of it, like a crazy person and wrapped his arms around.

[2180] He said it slid through his arms.

[2181] He said he couldn't touch his fingers.

[2182] Because it was so big.

[2183] It was that big.

[2184] Yeah.

[2185] Well, that's who's behind Lizzo on the tour now.

[2186] Because these bitches turned on her.

[2187] There it is, Lizzo.

[2188] Oh, Lizzo.

[2189] God bless her.

[2190] Yeah, man. I mean, that's the, she's.

[2191] That's the business she's in.

[2192] People turn.

[2193] They turn.

[2194] It's what it's life.

[2195] Well, it's also, she's in, you know, she's a part of that outreach business.

[2196] She's a part of that when you're in the machine.

[2197] Yeah.

[2198] She made her money.

[2199] She made her money.

[2200] She'll be fine.

[2201] She'll be fine.

[2202] She'll be a little, what's a little banana out of a pussy?

[2203] It's a little banana out of a pussy, folks.

[2204] So she got a little carried away.

[2205] That's how she likes to party.

[2206] That's how she gets down.

[2207] Yeah, that's how she got down.

[2208] Could be worse.

[2209] Yeah.

[2210] Yeah, what the fuck?

[2211] She gave you a job.

[2212] be grateful be grateful as a person as a human being that cares about people's joints i would not ever advise a bunch of ladies who had not done any real like rigorous figure physical activity they were pissed you're gonna get fucking hurt you're gonna get like knee replacements yeah like rip your fucking knees apart but it's like be grateful be happy and just enjoy it yeah but maybe get those girls on, you know, some sort of a rotation when they don't have to go on tour every day.

[2213] Yeah.

[2214] I don't know how many times they were doing it.

[2215] But if you were a big girl and you had to do that kind of dancing every night, that's a lot of fucking work.

[2216] It was probably too much for them.

[2217] You imagine if Burt Kreischer offered you a tremendous deal to go on his crazy tour, but you have to do cartwheels every night.

[2218] That's a part of the thing.

[2219] Like, everybody has to do.

[2220] I feel like I would.

[2221] Everybody's going to learn.

[2222] I wouldn't have to.

[2223] Yeah, it would be too much.

[2224] I would say, no, thank you.

[2225] Wait, Davis also claims the lawsuit she had once had to soil herself on stage during an excruciating re -audition, fearing the repercussions of excusing herself to go to the bathroom.

[2226] Yeah, but that's also, like, that's on you.

[2227] Okay.

[2228] No one told you.

[2229] That's a weird one.

[2230] You just shit yourself.

[2231] Yeah, that's a weird one.

[2232] You just shit yourself.

[2233] Yeah.

[2234] It's all right.

[2235] Also, if you weren't a big girl.

[2236] You shit yourself during rehearsal for the fat show.

[2237] Is there any truth to the rumor that bigger people shit themselves more often?

[2238] I don't shit myself, but I'm...

[2239] Ever?

[2240] No. I don't remember...

[2241] I'm remembering when I was drunk at you, when I was really drunk.

[2242] I don't think it's a common thing.

[2243] But I think if I had to do Lizzo's dance routines every night, I would be shitting myself.

[2244] It happens.

[2245] You'd be shitting yourself and be grateful.

[2246] Be grateful you're on this tour.

[2247] But if you have to pee yourself...

[2248] You have to take a shit.

[2249] You have to tell people.

[2250] I am so sorry, but I have to use the restroom.

[2251] But it would be so funny to me if one of them said, hey, I got to use the bathroom when Lizzo just went at them like a grizzly and said, fuck you, keep dancing.

[2252] Hold it in.

[2253] And they just dance and shit themselves.

[2254] Do you ever, like, about to go on stage and you're wondering if you should take a shit?

[2255] I always use a bathroom before I go on stage.

[2256] And I make it a point, too, because I know that that's a possibility.

[2257] But I've had moments where I wasn't sure if I should.

[2258] And then I just dump it.

[2259] truck yeah just like a load of lumber there's like before you go on stage there's like anxiety sometimes your stomach a little bit and then that going you know going to bathroom is yeah maybe that was that girl yeah let her take a shit maybe she could perform better yeah it's a it's a beautiful situation there when when you have people that are really overweight dancing and shitting themselves on stage it's it's that's what progress is yeah but I don't think you could blame someone when you shit yourself you really You really can't.

[2260] Well...

[2261] You can't...

[2262] Well, if you're a lawyer...

[2263] There's lawyers disagreeing with you.

[2264] Well, I don't think...

[2265] There's a lot of lawyers.

[2266] I don't know about that.

[2267] Yeah.

[2268] Because unless they specifically told you, you can't leave to take a shit.

[2269] Yeah.

[2270] Unless they specifically told her that...

[2271] No, I think she internalized it and she decided to shit herself, which to me is like, guys...

[2272] Come on, you have to be able to...

[2273] Grow up.

[2274] Well, on the other hand, though, if they did discourage them from using the bathroom, human beings have to use the bathroom.

[2275] Right.

[2276] especially they're rehearsing like let her take a shit in between takes yeah but also like I do respect if Lizzo was like don't fucking use the bathroom on this tour if she was like a hard ass I do respect the idea of that of her just going like all these girls being like yeah now we're finally gonna get respected and Lizzo's like you ain't shitting on my tour okay also there's something very funny about the idea of Lizzo walking around calling them all fat pigs it's just I'm sorry but that makes me happy are we sure that's true I don't think it's true at all I don't know but it makes me happy it makes me happy if it's true it's hilarious and very fun and a judge having to look at all these fat people in a courtroom and go wait who's what what's who's the problem is that it's fat privilege or fat people allowed to call other people fat is that okay it should be kind of okay but if you're if she's your boss obviously it's like a problem but it's just funny to me let's take morality out of it there's nothing funnier than that right just lizzie walking around stage calling people fat I mean, it's just so funny.

[2277] It's an absurd world.

[2278] Well, there's a thing that happens to people when they get their own show.

[2279] Yeah.

[2280] They've never had a show before.

[2281] Some of them go loony, right?

[2282] Roseanne talks about it real openly how she went loony.

[2283] Brett Butler famously went loony.

[2284] You know, it happens.

[2285] All of a sudden, you're kind of a dictator.

[2286] And then you're like, here's the banana.

[2287] Yeah, I've heard quite a few sitcom stars.

[2288] Eat the banana.

[2289] Bonkers when they had their own show.

[2290] I'll tell you story afterwards.

[2291] I have a good one.

[2292] Okay.

[2293] But it's just, there's these moments where you just decide that the rules don't apply.

[2294] You can just fucking scream at everybody.

[2295] It's the Allen thing.

[2296] Yeah.

[2297] You're the one in control of everything.

[2298] Right.

[2299] You could just fire people on a whim.

[2300] You know, you want to be feared.

[2301] Well, I think it was like, part of it was like Lizzo was like these girls were, they're like her, too.

[2302] It's weird.

[2303] It's weird to have a bunch of people that are very much like you.

[2304] And that that might be another layer of weirdness.

[2305] still.

[2306] Didn't you ever watch that New Jersey reality show?

[2307] What's that called?

[2308] Jersey Shore.

[2309] You watched that, of course.

[2310] They're all real similar to each other.

[2311] Yeah, that they're a problem, too.

[2312] I wouldn't, would you want to go on the Jersey Shore tour?

[2313] Who got, one of those guys got nabbed for tax evasion, right?

[2314] He got out of it.

[2315] He made a mistake.

[2316] People made mistakes.

[2317] It has a weird one, like a lot of these folks.

[2318] He got a hair gel endorsement.

[2319] A lot of these folks get wrapped up in, like, fraud schemes and shit.

[2320] A lot of reality star people.

[2321] You go from having no money to money and then you go, what the hell do I do with it?

[2322] And do I have to pay all of these taxes?

[2323] Didn't those folks on the New Jersey Housewives?

[2324] Didn't that the Italian guy got deported?

[2325] Yes.

[2326] That was a...

[2327] Yeah, you didn't pay.

[2328] That was a tax thing too, right?

[2329] Yeah.

[2330] They don't play.

[2331] They don't play.

[2332] Do reality people get fucked over?

[2333] Yes.

[2334] Do reality show people end up getting fucked over?

[2335] Well, they become famous and they're not rich.

[2336] And then they go, oh, oh, I have to pay?

[2337] Yeah.

[2338] They don't get it.

[2339] Well, they...

[2340] And then they try to figure out a way to keep the ball rolling.

[2341] Well, because they also got famous kind of a scam, right?

[2342] Reality TV is kind of a little bit of a scam.

[2343] It's not like they worked on a craft, right?

[2344] Yeah.

[2345] It's kind of a scam.

[2346] So they're like, oh, that, well, just let's apply that to everything in my life.

[2347] Yeah.

[2348] Let's apply that to every single thing ever.

[2349] And they got through, right?

[2350] They actually made it on television.

[2351] Right.

[2352] So it becomes this like they made the shiny, they touched the ring.

[2353] They were right there.

[2354] They were there.

[2355] They were close.

[2356] And then they got to figure out to get on it.

[2357] Yeah.

[2358] And then maybe the real thing is like start their own.

[2359] Right.

[2360] Yeah.

[2361] come up with their own concept the reality show economy yeah yeah there's a bunch of those guys that went from one show to the next they did like a ton of and then every now and then did like that bitch for the new york housewives did that skinny girl margarita and made like 20 30 million bucks right so every now and then someone will like bank they'll like hit it and the beverly hills lady who owns the restaurants she was rich forever right she was rich she was already rich already rich those restaurants suck by the way those just watching those ladies turn each other and like why is that so interesting to people Well, it's interesting because it's voyeurism, right?

[2362] You're like, it's fascinating.

[2363] People are like, you know, the first season of that real housewives of Orange County was actually a real good primer on the mortgage crisis because you saw like these people with these multiple houses, multiple cars, like one guy worked at the title company.

[2364] One woman was a realtor.

[2365] One woman was dating a mortgage guy.

[2366] And you saw how like Southern California, Irvine, California, where a lot of those company started, a lot of those housewives lived in that area and were making money.

[2367] in that sector of the economy that was about to collapse.

[2368] And then when it collapsed, you saw them go broke.

[2369] Like, some of those people went broke.

[2370] And, like, that became interesting to people.

[2371] Like, watching people ride high and then go low and try to, like, even out again.

[2372] It was, you know?

[2373] When people have to downsize.

[2374] People had to downsize.

[2375] People like when watching people get humbled for some strange.

[2376] They like watching people get humble for sure.

[2377] Yeah.

[2378] You know?

[2379] And it's just, it's fascinating to watch the waves of money's interesting.

[2380] because what it it does not make you happy it can make you happier it can alleviate the pressure on you yes but it's not it doesn't fill your soul right it's not a soulful thing per se um but it it is interesting watching it affect people like watching wealthy people there's no reality there's very few reality shows about poor people you know it's that it's usually about watching rich people really Yeah, how many reality shows are about poor people?

[2381] Teen mom, cops, not a million.

[2382] Swamp people.

[2383] Yeah, but are they even poor?

[2384] Are they poor?

[2385] Are they just swampy?

[2386] Because, like, Duck Dynasty guys are rich.

[2387] Those guys already were rich.

[2388] They're rich.

[2389] They're rich.

[2390] They're just a different kind of rich.

[2391] They're a different culture, but it's like...

[2392] They're country millionaires.

[2393] Hoarders?

[2394] Horters.

[2395] Horters is poor.

[2396] Horters.

[2397] Horters is poor.

[2398] Horters is poor.

[2399] Horters is poor.

[2400] Mankmansons is you're doing okay.

[2401] Is there's not a lot of mansions on hoarders, is what I was saying.

[2402] Oh, right, right, right.

[2403] At least don't a house.

[2404] No, those are crazy people.

[2405] Shane Gill has turned me on to the shit hoarder.

[2406] The lady who was shitting in buckets and leaving them in our house.

[2407] Wouldn't you get really sick for the shoes?

[2408] Well, I don't know how she's arrived.

[2409] Her fucking bio must be.

[2410] My strange addiction is fun where they eat things that they shouldn't.

[2411] You've never seen this one with a shit hoarder?

[2412] No. It's so insane.

[2413] I'll have to watch that.

[2414] I would play it for you right now, but we've already played it with Shane.

[2415] No, yeah, yeah.

[2416] It's so insane.

[2417] This lady was just like buckets of shit, like milk jugs filled with shit.

[2418] She sealed them, left them in the corners.

[2419] People are odd.

[2420] She wanted to go back at the end.

[2421] They were like, they got her to get out of the house.

[2422] Yeah.

[2423] She wanted to go back for one last hurrah.

[2424] By the way, why waste -her -rah, eating contaminated food?

[2425] Why waste a minute on someone like that?

[2426] If someone's like, I'm addicted to eating shit, it's almost like, hey, man, I, today is not the...

[2427] Do you drive heave if you just watch the film?

[2428] Yeah, it's just so funny, like, you're debating with her, and she's like, why should I leave?

[2429] It's my home, and you're like, well, it is full of shit.

[2430] The best part is at the end.

[2431] She's like, I'm not the worst one you've ever, you guys ever recovered.

[2432] Are you like, oh, yeah.

[2433] They're like, you're absolutely the worst one.

[2434] You have literal shit in your house.

[2435] Her mother grew up storing her own shit, too.

[2436] Well, it's a family thing, then.

[2437] It's a family.

[2438] It's just the end of it.

[2439] It's not showing all the shit.

[2440] I'll just like, uh, be here talking.

[2441] And I, I'm going to go ahead and eat some of the contaminated food, and then the party's over.

[2442] Because I have to get it.

[2443] Because when somebody goes on intervention, they want to get high one last time.

[2444] The party ends for me tomorrow.

[2445] I like her.

[2446] I'm eating contaminated food a party.

[2447] Why the fuck doesn't matter?

[2448] I like her.

[2449] I've been eating poo for 12 years.

[2450] It's my last, it's my last blaze of glory.

[2451] Look at me. This is the end of you pooping in a bucket.

[2452] No, it's not.

[2453] She's like, yeah, right.

[2454] Yeah, right.

[2455] I'm going to watch that.

[2456] It's so hard for me to watch that and not dry.

[2457] It's very difficult.

[2458] It's very difficult, but, you know, we live in a vibrant and diverse country.

[2459] Yes, we do.

[2460] We're a lot of people, like, this is my governor of California answer to that.

[2461] People have a lot of different ways to live.

[2462] Do you know how haunted that space of land must be?

[2463] Like, they leveled their house.

[2464] It's bad.

[2465] But who's going to rebuild?

[2466] It's bad.

[2467] Who's going to rebuild?

[2468] Shane Gillis.

[2469] That's just his favorite episode of Horters with Joe Rogan.

[2470] I've got to watch.

[2471] I haven't seen that one.

[2472] featuring Shana the shithorter.

[2473] Yeah.

[2474] It's wild.

[2475] That's wild.

[2476] So maybe I'm wrong.

[2477] Maybe there are more reality issues about poor people than I imagine.

[2478] I think they're funny too.

[2479] I'm sure.

[2480] No, they're great.

[2481] The moonshine people, aren't they poor?

[2482] Cops.

[2483] Cops, I said, of course.

[2484] Didn't they stop making cops?

[2485] It's back.

[2486] It's back.

[2487] It's back.

[2488] It's back.

[2489] It's a moneymaker.

[2490] Yeah, the pandemic.

[2491] There's a lot of, you know.

[2492] Cops is great natural humor.

[2493] You know, crackheads are naturally funny.

[2494] Yeah, and also, here's hilarious.

[2495] You have to get those people to sign releases.

[2496] Yeah, probably give them $5.

[2497] Isn't that amazing?

[2498] Here's a cigarette, sign.

[2499] Like, hey, yeah, I know you're on meth.

[2500] Right.

[2501] You know, running the street, but we sign right here, I'll give you $5.

[2502] There's no way that's hard.

[2503] I have that other show, the live one where they don't have to sign a waiver.

[2504] They get away with some loophole where it's live.

[2505] It's a live documentary of the cops, so the people in the background are like, they're just...

[2506] Come on.

[2507] Even the people they arrest, I don't, that, it's all live.

[2508] So I think there's a loophole with it being live.

[2509] What?

[2510] Yeah.

[2511] Can't edit it?

[2512] All right.

[2513] I'm going to edit it.

[2514] Oh, you can get, those are easy people to sign releases.

[2515] Oh, I'm going to edit it.

[2516] It's live.

[2517] I could get a release, a minute signed over there.

[2518] Well, there's places like when they did crank yankers.

[2519] You could do crank yankers in Vegas because it was legal to record someone on the phone.

[2520] Wow.

[2521] Whereas in California, someone else to know, you have to say, hey, Tim, I'm recording you.

[2522] Gotcha.

[2523] But when they're doing it in Vegas, you can kind of get away with a lot of shit.

[2524] That is interesting.

[2525] Wow.

[2526] I never thought about it.

[2527] As long as they're doing it from Vegas.

[2528] Yeah.

[2529] How do you approve that?

[2530] I guess his phone lines and everything.

[2531] Yeah.

[2532] Yeah.

[2533] You'd be able to prove that, I guess.

[2534] But it's just, I mean, because especially if it's a television show and Comedy Central.

[2535] Right.

[2536] That was a funny show.

[2537] It was a great show.

[2538] Comics used to call people up and prank them, and they would have, like, like, little stuffed animals.

[2539] That's a great show.

[2540] There's like ham puppets that were talking for you.

[2541] Yeah.

[2542] It was a lot of fun.

[2543] Yeah.

[2544] Yeah, that's, there's weird legal loophole.

[2545] Like where you, some states allow you to film people and they don't have to know about it and other ones they don't.

[2546] Yeah.

[2547] And for sure, you're Amazon, you're Elektra and all that shit or Alexa.

[2548] They're telling you.

[2549] They're listening.

[2550] Yeah, but they've arrested people for murder and got the data on their Alexa.

[2551] You better catch them.

[2552] Catch them in the normal way?

[2553] Catch them the normal way.

[2554] If it's your sister and someone stabbed your sister.

[2555] I stumbled across just earlier looking at something else you guys are talking about.

[2556] A Roomba?

[2557] Oh my God.

[2558] Recorded a woman on the toilet.

[2559] How did screenshots end up on Facebook?

[2560] Oh, my God, she took photo.

[2561] The Rumba took photos of her pooping.

[2562] Whoa, that's wild.

[2563] But how did it go to Facebook?

[2564] It says it's not supposed to happen.

[2565] It got sold to some data company.

[2566] Zuckerberg.

[2567] Bro, that fucking whole data mining thing is so insane that we never thought of this thing as a commodity, and it's the most important commodity.

[2568] It's literally responsible from some of the biggest corporations that we know of.

[2569] People want data.

[2570] They want to know what you're thinking about.

[2571] They want to sell you everything.

[2572] sell you everything yeah how many times you've been talking and you open up your phone and it shows you an ad for something that you always a lot of times it'll happen creep you the fuck out it'll happen a lot of times that creep you the fuck out I started to buy the stuff it's I mean because yeah why fight it good shit bro why fight that shit why fight it yeah that's that makes sense why fight it you know yeah el Pollo used to do the keto burrito and that would always be on my phone because I would always say things about keto and then the the El Pollo loco be like look at that it's a keto burrito it's fake but they called it a keto barrio it's not ketogenic well it's el puyloca so you do i'm at taking a word for it yeah they'd have to have a low carb burrito wrap which they do make they do make some weird they do i'm taking their word for it just never taste right i'm making their taking their word for it i'll puta loco you know what it is it's a thing you were talking about when you're eating sugar and you know you're not supposed to eat it it's bad shame there's a thing about like a real like cassidia with a flour.

[2573] During this movie, I did a small role in this movie, and everybody had to smoke fake cigarettes because of these dumb unions that are now on strike, solidarity.

[2574] But they were like, everyone in the movie, it was like, we had to smoke and we had to smoke these herb cigarettes and they all sucked.

[2575] Did they hurt your throat?

[2576] Except the star who was allowed to smoke the real cigarettes.

[2577] What?

[2578] Oh, yeah.

[2579] No. Yeah.

[2580] Oh, I know that movie.

[2581] That's right.

[2582] Yeah.

[2583] You should go on strike for that.

[2584] The herb cigarettes, they hurt your throat, and they suck.

[2585] Especially, you really like that cigarette.

[2586] Well, it's like, I don't like to, you know, I like an excuse to smoke.

[2587] So it's like, oh, it's my job.

[2588] Right, you have to.

[2589] So I'm like, if I have to do this today because of my job.

[2590] But then, so I was really excited because I hadn't smoked a while.

[2591] The guy goes, oh, here's the herb cigarettes.

[2592] I go, what the fuck?

[2593] This sucks.

[2594] You didn't put your foot down?

[2595] No, I just did it.

[2596] I just did it.

[2597] So, you know.

[2598] But you'll see.

[2599] I don't know if I'm smoking in the scene, but I was just like, and then I just put it in the Did it burn your throat?

[2600] It sucks.

[2601] It's just not the real deal.

[2602] Right.

[2603] No buzz.

[2604] No buzz.

[2605] No one would get addicted to them.

[2606] Nobody would ever get addicted to herb cigarettes.

[2607] Nobody would die from an herb cigarette.

[2608] Just the gross feeling of smoking your mouth.

[2609] The things you get addicted to are the good things and they're the bad things.

[2610] But there's a reason you get addicted to them because they are.

[2611] They give you something.

[2612] They give you something.

[2613] Give you a little juice.

[2614] They give you a little juice.

[2615] You know, when people end up in like the depths of a fentanyl.

[2616] You see these people walking around like San Francisco, downtown L .A., whatever it is, you go, how the fuck do you end up that bad?

[2617] Right.

[2618] But it's the power of that drug.

[2619] The power of that drug makes you go, yeah, I'll live on a street.

[2620] What's about, because they'll offer people rooms and then they go, no, I'm good.

[2621] I'm good.

[2622] I'll just turn tricks on the street and, you know, and you go, what is it, that drug is so good.

[2623] And it affects them in such a way that living without that feeling is unimaginable.

[2624] Yeah.

[2625] Even, I mean, they just become a drug.

[2626] at the end.

[2627] They're not even a human being.

[2628] It's really sad.

[2629] Yeah.

[2630] But you think about it, you're like, God.

[2631] And the rap at Apoyaloko that is not that.

[2632] The keto rap is not that.

[2633] But those, the power of drugs, whether it's sugar or booze or whatever it is, people throw their marriage and their life away because of alcohol.

[2634] Yeah.

[2635] Damaged relationships with their families.

[2636] Like, it's amazing how powerful all that stuff is.

[2637] Yeah.

[2638] And gambling.

[2639] We've been talking a lot about gambling the show.

[2640] Amazing how that gets people.

[2641] But that one's good because you could win.

[2642] It's true.

[2643] You could win.

[2644] I mean, you could win.

[2645] You might win.

[2646] You might win.

[2647] But I stay far away from that because I can feel myself.

[2648] If I play a few hands in Vegas or whatever, I can film like, oh, this is.

[2649] You could get into that.

[2650] Oh, yeah.

[2651] And they say that's the worst one, ironically, because there's no physical symptoms of withdrawal.

[2652] And you don't have any physicality associated with it, so you could just below everything.

[2653] Everything.

[2654] have you ever had like a real gambling addict on oh have we well david show is definitely that was one of his yeah he had a real gambling vice yeah um not an addict in the sense that like guys who just lose everything all the time i know guys who are pool players for like some of the best pool players in the world yeah and they will play and win a tournament and win a check for like you know ten thousand dollars right and then gamble it all on the flip of a coin that's amazing I've seen it happen.

[2655] There's one guy who's famous for it.

[2656] And these guys just are always in action.

[2657] If they're not on the poker table, they're playing roulette.

[2658] If they're not playing roulette, they're gambling at pool.

[2659] They're not gambling at pool.

[2660] They're gambling at poker.

[2661] They're fucking gamblers.

[2662] They just gamble.

[2663] They want that juice all day long.

[2664] And money is just fun coupons.

[2665] It's how they live.

[2666] That's how they get their excitement from.

[2667] They get their excitement.

[2668] There's a fucking great book about this guy from New Jersey.

[2669] His name is Kid Delicious.

[2670] and they wrote this book called Running the Table, I believe it is.

[2671] It's a guy who, the guy is a really good author.

[2672] He's a, he, I think he wrote for Sports Illustrated, John Wertheim, I believe it is.

[2673] Is that correct?

[2674] Is that how, am I saying his name right?

[2675] So anyway, it's about this guy who is this like really depressed, overweight pool player, who happens to be one of the best pool players in the world.

[2676] And he's only happy, like when he's in action.

[2677] And he travels around the country, and he documents him and his, friend, this guy, Bristol Bob, from Connecticut, and they travel around the country playing these like high stakes pool matches where he's worried about getting killed, he's worried about, you know, getting out of the place, he's worried about getting robbed, wild shit.

[2678] But this guy was only happy when he was in action.

[2679] He was only happy when he's gambling.

[2680] He was only happy.

[2681] It's amazing.

[2682] I mean, when he would win, he'd be on a fucking high.

[2683] And when he would lose, he would want to jump in front of a train.

[2684] He was only happy when he's gambling.

[2685] It's a binary existence, very similar to drugs.

[2686] It's only being happy when you are flying high, and then when you're not, you're being crushed, right?

[2687] I mean, that's a lot of, you know, there's comics that.

[2688] It's easy to fall into that.

[2689] That's what happened to a lot of people when they weren't getting their juice during the pandemic.

[2690] They went nuts.

[2691] They were not going on stage for a lot of comics.

[2692] It's like therapy.

[2693] Yeah.

[2694] It's this brief moment of extreme happiness that you get.

[2695] This is like 15 minutes of everybody having so much fun.

[2696] Yeah.

[2697] It's a real, you know, it's a challenge.

[2698] I think to not embrace, to not be manic.

[2699] Yes.

[2700] To not totally be manic.

[2701] And I think, you know, all these things are drugs, right?

[2702] Whether it's fame or money or anything that's associated with any type of performer, love.

[2703] People tend to get addicted to these things and they kind of, like, they'll take something and they'll make it into something else.

[2704] Like they'll take a reaction from an audience and turn that into love.

[2705] Yes.

[2706] When it's not love per se, you're doing a good job, but that's.

[2707] That's not love.

[2708] Mm -hmm.

[2709] And I think people turn that into go, okay, that's the love.

[2710] And that, you know, that gets scary and that's where people go off the rails.

[2711] It's positive energy, positive results, positive things.

[2712] Yeah, it's like people that live in Los Angeles for long enough.

[2713] They tend to think their agents and managers care about them, like them, love them, give a shit, you know what I mean?

[2714] It's good if you dumped a few times.

[2715] You get, the reality of the situation is, you become a product, they see you as a product.

[2716] They're effective at their job.

[2717] because they see you as a product.

[2718] They can't see you as a human being or, you know, they might see a little bit of you as a human being, but their interactions with you are, can they sell you?

[2719] Yes.

[2720] And, you know, sometimes people get pushed into doing weird shit.

[2721] They end up like, you know, there's people that, like, you know, will bring their clients drugs and everything, just to keep them on that fucking, 100 % on that hamster wheel, man. And it's unfortunate.

[2722] relationships will they always bring you booze if you need booze they'll bring you anything if you need booze that's in my fucking rider right yeah they just they want you to print money and buffalo trace they don't you know that's the whole thing so yeah but if you request it so the thing is it's like they they are feeding off of whatever look for sure are you are you really gonna like go to burr krecher and say hey no more drinking during shows shut the fuck up right like come on party keeps rolling yeah party you guys want to make money or not right check his blood pressure let's go right right show must go on get him the tequila let's go bert yeah and if you're a guy like Mitch Hedberg like somebody was probably getting him smack somebody knew that he had a real problem he was getting gang green from shooting into the same area you know it got spooky and he did not want to kick it did not had no interest in kicking it and he was fucking brilliant that guy was brilliant and it's just like it's such a fucking weird unique style but that that's So comedy is a weird thing to do, and it attracts people from all manners of life.

[2723] But, like, you know, there's a lot of people that, you know, people are very sensitive.

[2724] They're sensitive to see different things in the world that they can make fun of.

[2725] And they notice things a lot, and they have great observational talents.

[2726] And a lot of those people, like very sensitive people that are taking everything in, sometimes, like, you know, drugs and alcohol, it goes along with that because it's a way to dull yourself from the people.

[2727] pain of you know having these realizations or you know not being healthy enough to deal with uh the world as it is so you're just you know and music and art and comedy they they always have you know a lot of people that have issues and it's being somebody who was you know using drugs and drinking i haven't for 12 or 13 years actually the the things about that they make you a drug addict actually make you good comedian too because like the compulsion yes to do drugs is similar to the compulsion to keep doing comedy or to keep doing something when it's not working and getting it to work eventually and a lot of that type of like behavior that in a normal person's life is like what are you doing on Tuesday night right you're going to tell jokes yeah nobody cares nobody's paying you you go no no no but they will in six years they go what it's crazy to normal people but if you come from being a drug addict where you're like yeah I used to go and do drugs and I would drive to get drugs and you know I would satiate myself like that it makes sense to do something over and over and over again and that inhibits a lot of normal people who from being comedians or whatever they want to be because like when I started a podcast no one cared I just keep fucking doing it Yeah.

[2728] And I was doing it myself, and it was like, when you're talking to no one.

[2729] And then there's a small audience that got bigger and bigger and bigger.

[2730] But, like, what made me keep doing it is the same part of my brain that made me keep doing drugs.

[2731] Yeah.

[2732] It was the same type of compulsive thing.

[2733] Interesting.

[2734] Yeah, that's your superpower.

[2735] Yeah, your ability to just bore down and keep doing something over and over and over again until you get better at it.

[2736] It's a lot of comics, right?

[2737] Yeah.

[2738] A giant percentage of us.

[2739] A lot of comics.

[2740] Yeah.

[2741] And that's why a lot of comics get addicted to other things.

[2742] For sure.

[2743] A lot of comics get addicted to drugs and alcohol and a lot of comics get addicted to activities.

[2744] I'm certainly guilty of that.

[2745] Right.

[2746] Specifically, games get very, very, very, very addictive games.

[2747] And I think that there's like something that happens to us where the, you know, that pathway could be taken over by a positive thing.

[2748] Or a negative thing.

[2749] Yeah, like you could just be like fully addicted to creating new material.

[2750] Right.

[2751] Just addicted.

[2752] I fucking can't wait to get upstage with this new stuff.

[2753] I'm fucking juiced up.

[2754] Or it can be, I can't wait to go bet my whole life savings.

[2755] Right.

[2756] Which is, they fucking do it, man. Yeah.

[2757] You know, I was watching Dana, I was told the story too many times, but I was watching Dana White.

[2758] He was down $600 ,000 playing blackjack.

[2759] And I'm like, what?

[2760] This is insanity.

[2761] You want to winning, you want up, like $600 ,000, which is even more insane.

[2762] But like, what the fuck, man?

[2763] When you're watching people get, and he's super rich.

[2764] So for him to get his juices full.

[2765] It's got to be crazy money.

[2766] Yeah.

[2767] That is crazy.

[2768] That's a different level of that shit.

[2769] $600K would not be good.

[2770] And it's a different level when you have the financial means.

[2771] To do it.

[2772] To go hard.

[2773] To do it for sure.

[2774] Yeah.

[2775] Unhealthy.

[2776] Super crazy.

[2777] Unhealthy.

[2778] Well, I guess he likes it.

[2779] Here's the thing.

[2780] It's like some people like sports.

[2781] People do what they like.

[2782] That's a great.

[2783] When you look at life like that, it's kind of one of those things.

[2784] people say that sounds very, very simplistic, but then actually when you actually zoom out, it makes like, well, here's the thing.

[2785] People do what they like.

[2786] He seems to be pulling it off.

[2787] Yeah.

[2788] And he has for a long time.

[2789] For people to say, like, you're going to lose everything.

[2790] He hasn't.

[2791] No. So you're wrong.

[2792] Some people have a line.

[2793] A .A. and all these things are not for everyone, right?

[2794] Not everyone's an alcoholic.

[2795] Some people are problem drinkers, meaning if they stop drinking, they'll be okay, right?

[2796] Some people are hard drinkers.

[2797] Some people can recreationally use drugs.

[2798] There's all different types of people.

[2799] I'm not one of those people.

[2800] I can't recreationally use cocaine.

[2801] Some people can, right?

[2802] Yeah.

[2803] So it's like I couldn't recreationally do comedy.

[2804] I had to do it to do it.

[2805] Some people can.

[2806] Some people are able to give themselves that type of restriction.

[2807] Have you ever been to a gambler's anonymous meeting?

[2808] What does that like?

[2809] Gambler's anonymous.

[2810] But I know there's a lot of cross -pollinations.

[2811] I've been at AA where people are like, are also gamblers and multiple addictions multiple addictions and so are they proclaiming their sobriety off of gambling and uh yeah and you know they you know we're people that were just drinking to to fucking like you know all the pain of having that addiction as well there's a lot of guys who got into comedy from aa in Boston they're really funny guys too yeah because they got they would go on stage and tell these stories about being shit -faced and the crazy things that happened when they and some of them were really funny of course and the quite a few of those guys wound up doing stand up from learning how to do stand up in a meeting yeah for sure because they would just tell these stories well it's also it takes where your inhibitions right yeah yeah so you you know if you've been a drunk and someone who's like lived you know that life when you get into comedy you can kind of like go out there and just go yeah and then put it all the table and go I'm a fuck up and almost all of them smoke cigarettes and drink coffee like yeah that's a big well because those are drugs too yeah all day those drugs too those are drugs too yeah I mean it's it's very hard to explain to someone who's not wired that way right how it works to be wired that way it's very difficult if someone isn't wired that way at all and they have no addictive tendencies and they don't do anything really passionately and they have lots of different I have friends are very happy great people they have lots of different hobbies none of them take them over right none of them care that much about any one or two of them you know they're just not wired that way they go out to dinner they have two glasses of wine they don't finish the second one right I go how great they go yeah who cares I like drinking with food I like wine with food they go they can have one cigarette occasionally they can have they're just wired a different way yeah maybe they have more discipline but also maybe they're just wired a different way because a lot those are the same people who like aren't trying to make millions of dollars they're fine I'm not saying they should but like then I know people who they want to make a lot of money they are addicted to a lot of different things they switch to go from one addiction to another it's a problem it's very hard staying faithful to the wife or whatever like it's there's a lot of people that deal with a lot of things like people just wire differently and you can wire yourself in a positive way and use those addictive tendencies in a positive way, too.

[2812] For sure.

[2813] I've seen people that literally can't drink.

[2814] They drink, they have one drink, and then all of a sudden they have gerbilize, and they're not there anymore.

[2815] There's a few people that I've met in my life, that I've seen them drunk, and they have a couple of drinks, and then something shuts off, and they're not there anymore.

[2816] Tim's not there.

[2817] Who's this person?

[2818] Who's this fucking half robot just wandering around?

[2819] Well, it just became, for me, it was all I care about.

[2820] So if I was drinking, I'd be like, I am drinking.

[2821] Drinking is the thing that I want to do.

[2822] Partying and drinking.

[2823] So everything else in your life that you're supposed to care about disappears.

[2824] And some of it had to be fun.

[2825] Some of it.

[2826] Oh, it's a lot of fun.

[2827] Listen, I don't even regret it.

[2828] And when people say, you don't regret it?

[2829] I go, not really, because there's a lot of fun.

[2830] But what happens is you then look around and all your friends are drunks.

[2831] So you start to eventually, before you know it or not, every friend of yours is a drunk or has a problem with something.

[2832] And that's why you all relate to each other because nobody's calling the other person out and being a mess.

[2833] Right.

[2834] And then all your friends that are more successful tend to move away from you.

[2835] Yeah.

[2836] And you don't realize this is happening.

[2837] It's happening.

[2838] But you eventually, like, you take your head up and you're so fogged out by everything that you're not, then you, like, look at the landscape of your life and go, oh, all the successful people got out of here.

[2839] Yeah.

[2840] And then all the people that are left are fellow addicts, and then you've got to cut the cord and move on not only from your addiction, but in many cases from your social circle.

[2841] Was that the harder part?

[2842] That is a very hard part.

[2843] It's a hard part because you have to cut certain people, places, and things out of your life.

[2844] You don't really have a choice.

[2845] And some of them you like.

[2846] You like the local bar.

[2847] You like your friends.

[2848] It's fun.

[2849] It's comfortable.

[2850] going to the bar, being a drunk, being a funny drunk.

[2851] Yeah.

[2852] But then going, well, maybe I could be funny in another way and make money at it or whatever.

[2853] That's a whole different thing.

[2854] But did you try to go to the bar sober?

[2855] Did you try to hang out there?

[2856] I never did.

[2857] If I showed you the bar hung out, you would go, no, you don't do this sober.

[2858] No, you don't do it sober because, like, you know, it's not fun sober.

[2859] It's fun drunk.

[2860] And this is the, you know, my mother used to say, she never drank.

[2861] And she was like, oh, I used to go to bar sober as it was fun.

[2862] And I'm like, right, but you're also schizophrenic.

[2863] Like, there's something weirder about the person in the bar sober having a lot of fun.

[2864] That's weirder.

[2865] That is weird.

[2866] The person who's like, ah, I'm sober.

[2867] And they're drinking Diet Coke or water.

[2868] They're more of a freak.

[2869] Just don't go.

[2870] You don't have to go.

[2871] There's other thing.

[2872] This is part of our life where it's like, no, you can, you know, you can still do it.

[2873] You can still go to the bar.

[2874] You can still have all your friends.

[2875] It's so abrupt.

[2876] You can't.

[2877] You can't.

[2878] They're not interesting when you're not.

[2879] drunk.

[2880] The bar's disgusting.

[2881] It smells like shit.

[2882] It's not cool.

[2883] If you're not if you're drunk, there's nothing better than hanging out like I had this park called Lisa's Lounge.

[2884] The owner named it after his daughter who was killed in a drunk driving accident.

[2885] Fact.

[2886] And her face was on the wall of the bar and people would toast her and go Lisa and then drink.

[2887] It was crazy.

[2888] But it was fun and it made sense when you were drunk.

[2889] Oh, this girl died in a car accident with a drunk driver and there's a bar named after her and we're all here.

[2890] doing shots, toasting this dead person on a wall, this makes a lot of sense.

[2891] This is fun.

[2892] Then you sober up and go, motherfucker, what?

[2893] Like, none of it makes sense anymore.

[2894] Right.

[2895] How many people left that bar drunk driving?

[2896] Tons.

[2897] All?

[2898] A lot.

[2899] So it's like when you were hanging out in these places, when you're a real alcoholic, you're not going, it's not trendy, fun, cool hit bars.

[2900] It starts there, but it ends just proximity, right?

[2901] So if you're around a fucking bar, you're going to go to that bar.

[2902] And that was a bar up a block from my house.

[2903] I could walk to it.

[2904] You remember Barfly?

[2905] Yeah.

[2906] That's like the most rosy depiction of bar culture.

[2907] Yeah.

[2908] But it's the depiction that if you were drunk, it makes sense.

[2909] At those.

[2910] Two of my friends.

[2911] Everyone is your friend at the bar.

[2912] Everybody cares about you.

[2913] The bartender used to let me your car if I needed to go get cigarettes.

[2914] It was hammered.

[2915] You go take my car.

[2916] I don't care.

[2917] Because she was drunk.

[2918] You know what I mean?

[2919] She doesn't care.

[2920] She doesn't care.

[2921] You know, I remember one guy, I was sitting on a stool next to one guy once.

[2922] His wife brought his, like, 14 -year -old daughter in, and she's like, look at your father.

[2923] He refuses to get off this bar.

[2924] He's a piece of shit.

[2925] Oh, my God.

[2926] And they both laughed.

[2927] And I was just, like, sitting next to the guy, and it was kind of awkward.

[2928] And he's like, you know, he goes, she's a real bitch, man. And I'm like, yeah, she seems pretty selfish.

[2929] I'm like, you know, you deserve a couple of, you know, you come out, you have a couple of laughs with your friends.

[2930] But like, this is a problem, right?

[2931] Like, there was this woman Marge.

[2932] She used to come and barge, like, shit herself.

[2933] She used to call everyone faggots.

[2934] She was shit herself?

[2935] She was, like, shit herself.

[2936] And they kicked her out once you're like, Marge, you're like, shoot yourself.

[2937] She's like, you're all faggots.

[2938] You're a faggot.

[2939] You're a faggot.

[2940] So it's like these people are, you know, people are not well.

[2941] No. They're not doing well there.

[2942] It's a great place to be for a minute in your life, to understand, like, if I was a person who could never understand how people get so fucked up.

[2943] Like, there's, because the next step after that bar is a fucking tent.

[2944] Like, it's not that many steps.

[2945] You lose your apartment.

[2946] You lose your thing.

[2947] Yeah.

[2948] So to understand how it is, like, didn't Bill Hicks have that great line?

[2949] He's like, anyone can be.

[2950] Hall just takes the right bar, the right friends, the right girl, whatever it was.

[2951] It was a great Bill Hicks line.

[2952] It was about being homeless.

[2953] He's like, I didn't even if you'd be homeless, take this, this, this.

[2954] But like, to understand what it's like when you surrender your thoughtful, logical capacity in your brain to a fucking glass of alcohol and keep doing it.

[2955] Keep doing it.

[2956] I was in my early 20s just drinking these fucking bottles of vodka, right?

[2957] Gin and vodka just clear alcohol over and over again.

[2958] And then doing shots, people start buying shots.

[2959] Jack Daniels and Gentleman's Jack and Make.

[2960] and whatever and just drinking all the time three or four days a week and then five days a week and then you're just really you're and then people think it's funny and then they start you know I tried to tell my dad about like I was trying to be like I think I have a problem and I was telling about the bar hung out and instead of saying like oh you should go to rehab my dad's like you know a dirt bag bars played a role in every Dylan's life and he's like you know then he started telling me about a bar he hung out in and a bar that my uncle hung out in and it was just like a lot of people especially when you're Irish it's just like yeah that's just part of it You just go to a place four nights a week And you drink all your paycheck That's just part of what we do And it gets dark really quickly And I think I sort of up at 25 But you know from 12 or 13 When you just start smoking weed And doing all that stuff Until you get to 25 It's like you see these people All these different stages of addiction Some people in the beginning Some people in the middle Some people at the end That woman Marjor's the end She's like an old drunk An old woman Who her whole system didn't work anymore more when she would just go you're all fat -hats, you're a far -hatt, you're a -ha -ha -ha -ha -ha -ha -ha -ha -ha -ed.

[2961] She's shitting herself.

[2962] She's getting sloppy and 4 .30, your daughter would have to come in and take her off the stool.

[2963] This is what happens.

[2964] There's no good that comes out of, there's a couple that used to hang out, this guy on the glass.

[2965] His wife would spit a pill into his drink that would just make him go to sleep so she could get him out of the bar.

[2966] She would just put like a pill and she would drug him.

[2967] He wouldn't even, even know and then she would just drag him out to the bar because like he was so fucked out this guy that owned a glass thing a glass shop so it's really dark and when you're in your early 20s some of it's funny and goofy and you're like just fucking nuts and I'm hanging out here but then you become like you start making fun of it then you become it you become the thing you're making fun of you start going you're ironically like look at this fucking crazy and then you're like oh I'm one of the people now sitting on this bar stool it's not full funny anymore.

[2968] It's not ironic.

[2969] I'm coming here to get drunk all the time.

[2970] And it's your social circle.

[2971] It becomes your social circle.

[2972] All these crazy people that live in the area and they're all fucking nuts.

[2973] And they all go to the board.

[2974] If you want Coke, it's there.

[2975] And if you want weed, it's there.

[2976] And people, you know, it's like that's the type of bar it was.

[2977] You could just, I still drive people by it.

[2978] I can't believe you hung out there.

[2979] And I'm like, yeah, was it fucking alcoholic.

[2980] I just, I was had a problem.

[2981] They're like, you really hung out there.

[2982] People just don't understand alcoholism.

[2983] They're like, really, what do you?

[2984] They're like, didn't you want to go to a club that was like funneling?

[2985] No, no, no, I was a degenerate alcoholic.

[2986] Like, I just wanted to be drunk.

[2987] I didn't care where I was.

[2988] It didn't matter.

[2989] I could walk to that bar.

[2990] And it was fun.

[2991] It was a dark place and the people were fun.

[2992] It's still around?

[2993] Oh, it's still around.

[2994] It'll always be.

[2995] Here's the thing.

[2996] Those little name?

[2997] Yeah, Lisa's lounge.

[2998] There it is.

[2999] There it is.

[3000] That's it.

[3001] There it is.

[3002] Does that look nice?

[3003] I forgot you already said the name.

[3004] That looks nice, huh?

[3005] That looks creepy.

[3006] That someone lives above it?

[3007] Two people got shot outside.

[3008] They called the double homicide.

[3009] Yeah, some guy lives above it.

[3010] The owner lived above it.

[3011] You know what he said to me once?

[3012] Where's the inside?

[3013] Let's see if you can find the inside.

[3014] I don't know if that's the...

[3015] There it is.

[3016] Lisa's lounge added a new photo.

[3017] There you go.

[3018] Yeah.

[3019] There it is.

[3020] And by the way, that's Boston.

[3021] That's Long Island, right?

[3022] If you went to a place...

[3023] Click on that one, Jamie, where your cursor is?

[3024] Yeah.

[3025] It's a different one, but it's a similar game.

[3026] It's like, you know, it's one of those things where a fan of mine brought a Lisa's, they had a Lisa's lounge shirt made or something.

[3027] That's awesome.

[3028] But it's like, yeah, it was that's, you know, that's a type of bar where, like, you realize you're in real trouble when you're hanging out there.

[3029] But it's also really fun because no one cares about anything.

[3030] So those environments where you can go in and go, Got fired.

[3031] And everybody's like...

[3032] The four photos on the Elper pretty funny.

[3033] I mean, that's...

[3034] The Lord of the Far, right, that guy.

[3035] Yeah, I mean, it's just what it is, man. It's like...

[3036] Pool halls are like that.

[3037] Oh, yeah.

[3038] For sure.

[3039] Similar in that way.

[3040] Everyone's not drunk, but there's a very similar thing when you walk in.

[3041] I got fired today.

[3042] Yeah.

[3043] Hey, what do you do?

[3044] Everybody was kind of like a misfit.

[3045] They were all misfits and weirdos.

[3046] And they got, I found comedy.

[3047] Thank God I found a way out because that stuff eats your life, right?

[3048] So, like, that will eat you if you don't get out of it.

[3049] That you found comedy, Tim Dillon.

[3050] Well, thank you.

[3051] Are you coming to club tonight?

[3052] Yeah.

[3053] You're doing a...

[3054] Let's fucking go.

[3055] I'll go.

[3056] Eight o 'clock?

[3057] Eight and ten.

[3058] Seven and ten?

[3059] Seven and ten.

[3060] Can I do ten?

[3061] You can do whatever you want?

[3062] I'm going to do ten.

[3063] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[3064] I'll tell you why that's a good one later.

[3065] Yeah.

[3066] The pool guy in my house, there's a leak, I think, we think.

[3067] Oh, no. Fucking hot.

[3068] We'll say.

[3069] Oh, no. See Tim live.

[3070] Tim Dylancomedy.

[3071] dot com.

[3072] Yes, the American royalty tours on sale and we were in Philly we're in Charlotte, North Carolina, we're everywhere.

[3073] Tim Dillon Comedy .com, going grab tickets.

[3074] One of the best comics working in the country.

[3075] Well, thank you very much.

[3076] I really appreciate it.

[3077] Thank you so much, brother.

[3078] You're the best ranter in the game too.

[3079] Thank you so much for having me. My pleasure.

[3080] Appreciate it, brother.

[3081] Appreciate you.

[3082] Bye.