The Joe Rogan Experience XX
[0] And yeah, yes!
[1] That's it!
[2] We're live.
[3] We're live.
[4] It's live.
[5] What's up, baby?
[6] How are you doing?
[7] How are you doing good?
[8] Good to see it, brother.
[9] That is a very colorful.
[10] You got a lot going on with that shirt.
[11] Fishing.
[12] Fisherman's outfit.
[13] Yeah.
[14] Is that what it is?
[15] It's an old Nautica shirt I found.
[16] Oh, it's like, it's a shirt that has pictures of rain gear hanging up on hooks.
[17] Yeah, and binoculars and boots and nets and shit.
[18] It's a very powerful shirt, nautical themed shirt.
[19] Yeah, it's like, uh, it's a loticle -huh.
[20] like a nautical shed theme where you put your nautical gear ice fishing i think do you fish i did in orlando i used to fish a lot yeah yeah i was on like i couldn't do it i couldn't party for a couple years i'd get tested so i just went fishing after school instead of partying instead of what are you getting tested for just they you know like your probation officer show up at your crib or whatever oh what did you do what did you do to get you a probation officer i had a i had like a i think we talked about this before i had like an assault like my second year college I caught an assault charge But it was a self -defense Self -defense A caught an assault charge Self -defense So I pled out But no Me and my buddy Justin Foreman Like I couldn't go party But he would come pick me up And we just go fishing On the lakes and shit So Orlando's got really good Bass fishing Yeah No it really does I love fishing So I'm way into bass fishing Really?
[21] Like large mouth Yeah large mouth I do the rubber worms I do the like The frogs off their lily pads You do all that shit Spinner baits All that jazz crank baits, little Rapala, little minnows and shit.
[22] Yeah, mine was the watermelon seed worms that bounce off the floor.
[23] Oh, look at you, dude.
[24] Did you ever get like one of those boats, those little bass boats with the flat bottoms and you can move around with a little trolling motor?
[25] Yeah, so what we did was I had a canoe.
[26] I had a canoe at the crib, but then on the other lake we saw this onboard motor that the dude had just left on his dock.
[27] So one night we were, we were younger.
[28] It was like high school or whatever, so we stole this dude's motor and put him on my car.
[29] canoe so we were cruising with the fucking the on board motor on my canoe how did you install it on a canoe because a canoe is a pointy end as opposed to a flat end I don't know my boy Justin figured it out I have no idea how he fucking did it but doesn't make any sense he rigged it up to put it on the back of the shit but because a canoe has two points there's a point in the front and a point in the back yeah how the hell do you get a motor back there he did it I have no idea he caught it the elbow was it a a trolling motor like a real quiet one or was it a big heavy it was the quiet little one you can put in the front it's that little troll the little thing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the idea of those is you want to like almost kind of go against the like if the tide is pulling you one way or the you know or move along the bank you know in fresh water you can use them actually they're probably only using fresh water only because you could creep into the lily pads yeah so we'd creep in and there was like a drop off on this lake on the butler chain and like around sundown just fish would just be right there If you get to the drop off, you can hit them.
[30] I love fishing.
[31] It's so fun.
[32] It's something primal about it.
[33] There's something primal about, like when you catch something and you see it, like, oh, I got one, I got one, I got one.
[34] And as it's coming up, you see it in the water, like, oh, there it is.
[35] Oh, my goodness.
[36] I think it goes back to, like, ancient DNA or something.
[37] Yeah, it's also, you can feel the life on the line.
[38] You know, you can feel it.
[39] But I was a catch and released.
[40] I used to eat them, but then I started feeling bad because I was going out every day, so I just let him go.
[41] If you really feel bad, don't catch and release.
[42] Because when you catch and release, a lot of them die.
[43] That's the dirty secret about catch and release fishing.
[44] So you just eat it.
[45] It's kind of creepy because, like, I went salmon fishing.
[46] And this is really kind of brought home to me when I went salmon fishing.
[47] Me and Ari Shafir, a couple years ago, we went up to Alaska.
[48] And when we were, like, right when we were getting up there, they had turned into catch and release because they have like a salmon weir.
[49] Do you know what a weir is?
[50] It's like they have these sort of, uh, um, they have these sort of, uh, uh, um, pathways that the salmon have to go through and they set them up so they can accurately count how many salmon go through at any given time so they can estimate how strong the schools are that are coming upstream and downstream so they can estimate pretty pretty accurately how many salmon are in the river what the populations are how healthy they are so the salmon we're there it goes right there you can see it um they got like right before we're going up there they got poor numbers and it was kind of ironic because the day we got there, the numbers were off the fucking charts.
[51] We got there at like one of the best days for salmon fishing ever.
[52] But we had to let them all go.
[53] It was real weird.
[54] But we were catching a shit.
[55] You couldn't keep one of them.
[56] No, we couldn't keep any of them.
[57] We caught a rainbow trout.
[58] I got to keep that.
[59] It was pretty rare.
[60] You don't really get too many rainbows up there.
[61] But the salmon were giant.
[62] But we were catching them all day and releasing them.
[63] But you release them.
[64] You're like, oh, that's one of the fuck, I can a magnet you know you see some blood yeah sometimes if it gets hooked like deeper than the lip and stuff like that but i felt i felt i felt all right about my i would get them get them out of the lip but you're right sometimes if they swallowed the bait if they swallowed the bait i'd take it you know right if it was in the lip i let it go well some fish just don't taste that good either's the thing about large mouth bass yeah they're not delicious fish yeah that's fucking cat food bro you're catching cat salmon salmon's a delicious fish yeah but a large mouth bass is like yeah i guess i could eat this your saltwater fish you're saltwater fish you're saltwater Fish, man. I'll keep them.
[65] If they're the right size, I'll keep them.
[66] You can freeze them.
[67] Whatever, they're delicious.
[68] But freshwater fish, man. Except for trout.
[69] Trout.
[70] Trout tastes really good.
[71] Yeah.
[72] Is that brackish water?
[73] No. Most trout are freshwater, but there are some brackish water, like steelheads, I think, they go into the ocean.
[74] You know, isn't that correct?
[75] I think steelheads make it into the ocean.
[76] Or they get at least close.
[77] They definitely get into brackish water.
[78] Salmon, of course, go back and forth.
[79] You still fish out here?
[80] Yeah, man. I love fishing.
[81] Different places.
[82] is, there's a, for fresh water, there's Lake Castaic, which is nice.
[83] They have a lot of actual, they have striped bass, which are great.
[84] It's all freshwater.
[85] It's kind of an artificial lake.
[86] But right now they're hurting because of this drought that we've had up here for the last few years.
[87] Like, we used to film Fear Factor up there, and especially there's this plate called Tihon Ranch.
[88] This is the most shocking.
[89] There's this place called Tihon Ranch that had this beautiful lake for Lodgemouth Bass.
[90] And we used to drop people on Fear Factor at a helicopter.
[91] helicopters in this lake.
[92] Now the lake is completely dry.
[93] There is nothing in the lake.
[94] It's dead.
[95] Totally dry.
[96] Completely flat.
[97] You could see the bottom of it and it was a mass fish die off.
[98] And they said there was some beautiful, huge 10 plus pound bass that just died in that lake of no air, no water, no nothing.
[99] That's crazy.
[100] Just dried up.
[101] So you could see it in the lake.
[102] It's just dead fish everywhere?
[103] There's not.
[104] Well, now you can't because all the birds picked them off and it's all gone because it's been like that for over a year.
[105] But it just completely dried up.
[106] There's no water.
[107] When a lake dries up, it's just Thanksgiving for birds.
[108] Yeah.
[109] Yeah, well, for a little while.
[110] Damn.
[111] Birds get diarrhea?
[112] That's sad, man. They must get diarrhea, right?
[113] They'll probably eat anything, though.
[114] Birds can.
[115] Yeah, they eat a lot of shit.
[116] I mean, they eat a lot of shit off my patio.
[117] I drop food.
[118] I throw it out there, man. Seagulls eat anything.
[119] So how you like in West Coast living, baby?
[120] I like it.
[121] I like it.
[122] You know what?
[123] Fuck the winter.
[124] I'm still, yeah, I'm way into living out here.
[125] I'm not into the people as much yet.
[126] I'm still like, I like New York people.
[127] You're like gritty.
[128] I like haters.
[129] You know what I mean?
[130] New York got haters.
[131] You like haters?
[132] Yeah, I love haters, man. Why?
[133] I was telling a friend, New York's got people, you do well, people in New York want to hate you.
[134] You do well in L .A., people just want to work for you.
[135] And I'm like, go away, man. Go away.
[136] Come on.
[137] I'd rather you hate me and criticize me, and then I know what to work on, you know?
[138] Interesting.
[139] like in what way i like criticism man it just reminds me my mother oh that's funny man so how so like how like when you say that new york has more haters like when you're doing when you're becoming successful in new york what you felt like like just much more criticism much more much more scrutiny yeah it's never like yo you did a great job it's like yo that was all right man that was all right but let me tell you what you really need to be doing and so people will actually put you on the things and whatever.
[140] I like criticism.
[141] I like feedback.
[142] I like it when it's valid and it's coming from people that aren't retarded.
[143] Agreed.
[144] That's a problem.
[145] YouTube hate not so much.
[146] YouTube is the best.
[147] It's just entertainment.
[148] Well, here's the thing.
[149] Have you ever left a YouTube comment?
[150] Yeah, I talk to them all the time.
[151] Do you?
[152] It's funny.
[153] I love it.
[154] But if you ever left a YouTube comment on something other than your own videos?
[155] Yeah.
[156] Really?
[157] Yeah.
[158] You're rare.
[159] Yeah.
[160] Most people, they watch YouTube videos and they enjoy it or they don't enjoy it.
[161] that's it they walk away they move on with their life you're a rare dude in that case yeah i think for the most part 80 % of the feedback's terrible but every once in a while a lot of our lower thirds on the show like the nicknames we use and shit it's like fans and the youtube comments leave them and this is all the vice stuff on the vice stuff on the longs world yeah right so they give me they give me good suggestions and i'll keep in touch with some of the people i talk to on youtube or instagram commenters are pretty fucking good now too well except when they have their accounts blocked it seems to me that like if you look at 90 % of the cunts on Instagram when you go to their accounts they're blocked yeah that is the land of the cowards yeah Private on Instagram you shouldn't be allowed to just go on other people's pages and shit all over them Yeah, I agree I've read some just mean nasty fucking shit that people write on these girls pages about what the girls look like I'm like oh what does this motherfucker look like and I go because all I get see of your face is this like one eighth of a centimeter face And so then I go to their page and it's blocked Yeah you'll see I'll see on homegirls like pages and stuff there's dudes who's like I want to come on your titty's and she's like eating with her grandmother do you know I mean I'm but come on a lot man's rude Yeah, comment on the dumplings or something.
[162] That's what I'm saying.
[163] Oh, grandma had a nice dumpling over there.
[164] Especially worried that the grandma might actually look at the picture with her granddaughter.
[165] And be like, they're out there trying to come on my granddaughter's titties.
[166] Luckily, my parents are only on Facebook.
[167] My parents are fucking killing Facebook now.
[168] Yeah, see, Facebook is the most transparent.
[169] You go right to someone's page and you see exactly who they are and it's a different animal.
[170] You know, Instagram is weird in that way.
[171] Like, some people don't even have a photo, you know, you go to their Instagram page, there's no photo.
[172] Yeah.
[173] You know, it's all blocked up, but then they just use it to comment on people's pages and shit on them.
[174] Yeah, YouTube and Instagram, like I said, 80 % of it's terrible, but it's always entertaining.
[175] It's fucking super fucking entertaining.
[176] Sometimes it's not that entertaining to me because I feel like there's so much spinning your wheels.
[177] I like these people that are like super mega negative on these things.
[178] Like, you're not getting, no one's getting anywhere with this.
[179] This is just people with failed lives.
[180] ones are bad but yo there's some good fucking jokes there's some comedians in the comments man oh yeah definitely they got some fucking jokes well it's not all negative yeah definitely not all negative yeah but as far as like comments I would say like Instagram comments to get to a good joke I like a good joke I'll go through miles of shit I would say Instagram comments are probably the best out of all and Twitter's pretty goddamn good too I mean I'm real fortunate in that I would say that more than 99 % of all the interactions I have with people online through social media are positive, more than 99%.
[181] It's probably like 99 .9 .9.
[182] It's really good.
[183] Well, because people love you.
[184] Mine is probably, I think, like, 70, 30.
[185] People love you too, man. Come on, dude.
[186] I put you up on Instagram today, and people went crazy.
[187] They're super happy to have you back.
[188] Thank you.
[189] Especially if they found out your fisherman's shirt was rocking it, too.
[190] Ice fishing gods.
[191] Woo!
[192] You wearing a Fitbit?
[193] What the fuck is going on?
[194] Yeah, man. What the fuck is going on, man?
[195] Ketosis.
[196] Gotta get to get to the ketosis, man. No, you're not going to get to ketosis with a rubber band.
[197] What do you need?
[198] I got to get the ketosis.
[199] Well, I had a smoothie this morning.
[200] What was in it?
[201] Honey, sugar.
[202] No, almond butter.
[203] There's no sugar.
[204] It was just almond butter and spirulina.
[205] Oh.
[206] Oh.
[207] Well, your coughing just thinking about it.
[208] No, I'm coughing.
[209] The coffee, man. Coffee got me with the eye guys.
[210] Spirulina, protein powder, almond butter, fucking dates.
[211] That's all good.
[212] That's all good.
[213] Well, the almond milk.
[214] Was it almond milk from a store with a gang of sugar in it?
[215] I don't know.
[216] I didn't ask.
[217] See, I'm new to this ketosis game, right?
[218] I'm just getting into it.
[219] I'm a rookie with it.
[220] Well, that ain't going to make it.
[221] Most almond milk that you buy from stores, unless you look real careful.
[222] Like, if you buy, like, vanilla almond milk, it's bullshit.
[223] You might as well be just drinking a chocolate shake.
[224] Oh.
[225] Yeah.
[226] They're low, like Duncan called me up.
[227] Dude, I love almond milk.
[228] It's the best, man. It's so delicious.
[229] It's really good for you.
[230] I go, it's delicious, huh?
[231] How many grams of sugars in it?
[232] Oh, I don't know.
[233] Hold on.
[234] Nineteen!
[235] I go, yeah.
[236] Dude, you're drinking sugar water.
[237] You're drinking a glass of fucking, by the way, that's an 8 ounce glass.
[238] You're drinking 8 ounces.
[239] I'm one of those idiots, man. I'll wear this Fitbit.
[240] I'll tell myself I'm going to get in shape, right?
[241] And I'll eat healthy all day.
[242] And then last night I got drunk and I ended up eating like a bag of chips and smurf gummies.
[243] You know, so that's not ketosis.
[244] That's not the ketosis life.
[245] Well, alcohol, too.
[246] Yeah.
[247] Alcohol translates directly in sugar in your body.
[248] Yeah.
[249] It transforms.
[250] But I just like to tell myself that I'm trying.
[251] Well, what are you trying to do?
[252] You're just trying to be healthier.
[253] You're trying to lose weight.
[254] I would like to go down a cup size.
[255] A cup.
[256] Yeah.
[257] Kind of like a B. Like, I'm like a 34B, you know, standard cup size.
[258] I'd like to be an A. An A?
[259] Yeah.
[260] If I could get to like 32A, I think it'd help my basketball game.
[261] Because I got the dream killers now, bro.
[262] You're way down.
[263] I want to try out for the MBDL.
[264] What's the MBDL?
[265] The NBA Development League, man. You could try out.
[266] You see.
[267] What?
[268] Yeah.
[269] Anybody can?
[270] Anybody can.
[271] You could try it.
[272] Try out.
[273] That's not going to work.
[274] Come on.
[275] My dream is alive.
[276] I think Joe Rogan, I think you got a little Ron Art testing you, some metal world peace.
[277] I'm going to go down a cup side of trial for the MBDL, man. Okay.
[278] Do you play a lot of basketball?
[279] I play a lot of basketball.
[280] And watching the Knicks this year, I just, I feel like I could do some things for them.
[281] The Knicks are so fucking terrible.
[282] Is it that bad?
[283] Yeah.
[284] How could the Knicks be terrible?
[285] Pozzyngas needs me. If they're in New York, they have money, right?
[286] That's a giant -ass team.
[287] There's a lot of bad things you can buy with money, like Carmelo Anthony.
[288] Oh, is he bad?
[289] He's terrible.
[290] Really?
[291] I mean, he had a good year this year, but it's just like he's not terrible.
[292] He's a bad fit for this team because he needs to be on a winner.
[293] And I'm like, he resigned with the Knicks knowing it was a rebuilding team.
[294] And he should have gone to Chicago, honestly.
[295] Should have gone to Chicago.
[296] Or we should have traded Carmelo for Blake Griffin.
[297] That would have helped the Clippers and it would have helped the Knicks.
[298] This is a lot of technical talk that I'm not really.
[299] Not really hip, too.
[300] All right.
[301] We'll move on.
[302] New topics.
[303] So you're just trying to be healthier is what you're trying to do.
[304] And you try to...
[305] Also, I got hoop dreams, Joe.
[306] You do have hoop for real?
[307] I still believe.
[308] I still play ball.
[309] I go to UCLA.
[310] I'll play at UCLA, play at USC, and I go to Monocito Heights Rec Center.
[311] Monday, Wednesday, Friday's, I got open run.
[312] Montecito Heights.
[313] Where's that?
[314] It's like Pasadena.
[315] Oh, okay.
[316] I'll drive an hour Monday, Wednesday, Friday mornings to go play ball.
[317] Really?
[318] I love it.
[319] Wow.
[320] Yeah.
[321] That's cool.
[322] 30 like last year I was 30 I just turned 34 like last month and last year was the first year I was like yo I actually got a lot worse at basketball because I was getting like incrementally better right and I was like yo I think I'm getting old this was the first year I felt old I guarantee it's just because you're busy 34's not old enough where your body starts deteriorating oh good yeah do you do you lift weights yeah I do pliometrics isometrics this kind of that can fuck with your basketball game bad in a bad way well Yeah, I used to fuck with my pool game.
[323] It was a big problem that I like to lift weights, but I also like to play pool.
[324] And when you lift a lot of weights, you get sore.
[325] And when you're sore and stiff, it fucks with your fine motor skills.
[326] Yeah.
[327] It would really fuck with my pool game.
[328] Yeah, no, my jumper is trash right now.
[329] Yeah, I think a lot of that has to do with lifting weights.
[330] It could, you know, for a lot of people when you're sore, like all the, you know how, like, I guess I don't play basketball and I'm terrible at it.
[331] But I would imagine that it's similar to pool in that you've got to know exactly how much effort to put on that ball.
[332] Exactly.
[333] You know, I know, like, when I crumple up a paper and I throw it in a trash can, it's a weird thing, right?
[334] Because you're kind of estimating the drop, you know, the arc of that little thing.
[335] Yeah.
[336] It's, you have to have this fine sense.
[337] I'm going to send this video to everyone on my squad and be like, guys, you got to give me to ball more shoot.
[338] I'm just missing shots because I'm too strong now.
[339] Lifting too many weights.
[340] That's what it is.
[341] Too swole.
[342] Too swole.
[343] Too swole.
[344] Too swole.
[345] I'm way too swore for this game.
[346] It does, I mean, there's a, there's a, like, sort of a point of diminishing returns when it comes to lifting weights and then doing fine motor skill activities yeah used to fuck with me drawing too if i lift a lot of weights my hands would get tired from like gripping and squeezing things and then when i would draw like my fine motor skills with my hands would be off it's true it does it does it affects it a lot our team we had this team uh called the molly boys so that was my rec the molly boys like they're all they're all on Molly?
[347] Is that the idea?
[348] Well, we all met hanging out doing Molly and then we made What an athletic crew.
[349] Yeah, a lot of energy.
[350] Very positive squad.
[351] Super positive squad.
[352] Everybody's hugging everybody.
[353] It's okay, dude, you miss. Give me a hug, bro.
[354] Yeah, we lose by 30.
[355] It's cool, man. I love you.
[356] I love you, man. Yeah, no, we look like fucking clowns.
[357] Our jerseys had like Molly Ringwald's face on them and it said Molly voice.
[358] Yeah, I'll show you.
[359] Oh, that's hilarious.
[360] Please show me. I want to put that shit on Yeah, you got to fucking join the squad, Joe.
[361] I'm in.
[362] Dude, I'm in.
[363] Come on.
[364] I think I might even have one in the fucking backseat in my car.
[365] Molly boys jersey with your name all over.
[366] I need to have that.
[367] After the show, you've got to give me that photo, and I'm going to put it on Instagram because that is goddamn hilarious.
[368] My boy Bernard designed this shit, Mali Boys.
[369] Yes, here it is.
[370] Look at these jerseys.
[371] Oh, my God.
[372] What ever happened to her, man?
[373] I don't, uh, she's been in a couple films.
[374] I saw her in something in the news recently, but not.
[375] I don't know what happened, man. That's a weird world.
[376] She peaked.
[377] Yeah, that peaked, bro.
[378] The 80s movie world is a weird world.
[379] I'm surprised though people selling press pills haven't put her face on like a press pill yet.
[380] That would sell like wildfire.
[381] Anybody out there making press pills in your bathtub put Molly Ringwald's face on them.
[382] I know, right?
[383] You would think that would be the one.
[384] I think people forgot about her.
[385] People forgot about Molling.
[386] They forgot about Hove.
[387] You should sell those.
[388] You should sell those.
[389] We forgot about Hove.
[390] Yeah.
[391] You know what?
[392] This is for the love.
[393] I'm only giving them the friends like you.
[394] You get a Mali -Wil jersey.
[395] Yeah, it's in the trunk.
[396] I have one left.
[397] Oh, my God.
[398] What size?
[399] As I'm pretty swole.
[400] You are fucking swole.
[401] You might be too swore for the jersey.
[402] Hang it up on the wall, man. Dude, I'll wear it.
[403] I'll stretch it out.
[404] Yeah.
[405] Don't get a fuck.
[406] You make it a Jamaican tank top.
[407] Yeah, I'm making something I only wear at the gym for the gun show.
[408] I like it.
[409] So you're doing that three times a week.
[410] You're playing basketball.
[411] That's dedication.
[412] I would think that alone, all that activity, that would be a great way to lose weight.
[413] Yeah, my Fitbit says I'm doing work.
[414] It's great.
[415] The Fitbit and the scale disagree, though.
[416] Well, it's the food then.
[417] Yeah, it's definitely the food.
[418] It's food.
[419] But you're a chef.
[420] Yeah, but you make delicious shit.
[421] How hard is it when you make delicious shit to eat non -deligious.
[422] Delicious shit.
[423] That's a problem because it's almost like as a like imagine for a guy like me as a comic What if I was a comic, but the only way to be healthy was to listen to shitty jokes?
[424] That's kind of like what's going on.
[425] Yeah Because you describe yourself as sandwich artist.
[426] Yes Ultimately what you are is an illest subway employee of all time It's well, there's a lot of Jared jokes in there, but I'm gonna we're gonna keep moving But you're making delicious art, you know, and then you're eating styrofoam, you know?
[427] Yes.
[428] My problem also is I make fire, I eat it, but then later on at night, even if I'm not making it, I will eat anything.
[429] You put anything in front, I'm going to eat it.
[430] So you're a late night, dude.
[431] Late night is where I really do the damage.
[432] And then the booze, too.
[433] The booze is a problem.
[434] But I've been drinking less, drinking less, just.
[435] Smoking weed You know I think I'm going to get there Next time I come in here Shredded Bruce lady in here Oh Where's the beach So If you Just cut out carbs You can still eat delicious shit Like that's the beautiful thing About like trying to Get into a ketogenic diet There's like delicious steaks You can eat You can eat some sweet potatoes You can eat like So you eat sweet potatoes Because it's the fiber Much Yeah fiber but just don't eat too much.
[436] The whole idea is to take in as little sugar as possible and have your body start operating off of fats.
[437] What else is a good fiber to eat besides sweet potato?
[438] Like, what do you do for your cravings?
[439] That's what's killing me. Discipline, that's what I do.
[440] Fuck.
[441] This stuff is, this stuff is called ketogenic.
[442] These are exogenous ketones.
[443] These are all minerals and amino acids, and I add these to water.
[444] And what they do is they put your body in a state of ketosis, rapidly they've they wait this can put you in ketosis by itself yeah that shit see that's what so somebody was telling me this right they're like if you don't eat carbs then your body creates ketodes exactly and then it starts to eat your fat exactly and i was like can i just fucking do a line of fucking ketos though like why can't you just put these fuckers in your body and it starts attacking your fat um that's what this does yes well what that does is the key those are exogenous ketones and ketones is what your body burns off and it's not burning off carbons There's a couple of benefits to it, and I'm not a scientist, and I'm not that smart, so I'm going to butcher this.
[445] But essentially, one of the biggest benefits is that when your body's eating carbs all the time, your body feeds off carbs, for me at least, what I would do is I'd have these big peaks and then these crashes, like I would eat, and then after I ate, I was like a bear that got shot with a tranquilizer dart.
[446] I'd be like, you see those bears that are coloring?
[447] That'll be me. I just it would crash hard man hard and then also after I ate about five hours later I'd be fucking starving where my body had processed all the food and then I'd hit this place like fuck I got to eat I don't get there anymore I don't get to there to that I got to eat thing like I can go 10 12 14 hours without eating and I'm fine I might be a little hungry but I feel good like I've worked out after 16 hours of not eating and be fine like what I'll do is I'll go to bed like early at night and I'll work out at noon with nothing eat nothing in between that time and work out at noon and be fine bro we sound like the girls I knew in high school though I could go 16 hours without eating oh girls that are throwing up I love it I love it yo but this is also Al Bundy's favorite flavor natural orange remember when he made the tank if you eat an orange if you eat an orange it tastes anything like this dog shit yeah throw that fucking thing in the garbage immediately so this would defeat the purpose of Kagenics though if I did the Bundy and I made like a tang sandwich with the Kijenics powder.
[448] Don't make the tanguish.
[449] But I do love this stuff.
[450] I put this stuff in water and I mix it up and I drink it all the time.
[451] It's a little sloppy.
[452] This envelope's a little sloppy.
[453] I need to come up with a good sort of a funnel to get in there.
[454] But what I do is I just kind of shake it in slow.
[455] Yeah, you're smart, man. You're doing a little one.
[456] What I do is I make a little hole and I just put.
[457] put that little hole over the water bottle.
[458] You probably should use an actual glass of water.
[459] Oh, this isn't enough of water?
[460] No, it's fine.
[461] It's good.
[462] I mean, it's just going to be real strong.
[463] But I'm just saying if you had a glass, then you can mix that bitch up solid.
[464] Like this Joe Rogan glass here?
[465] Oh, shit.
[466] Oh, shit.
[467] Plus, I like the idea of you drinking in my face.
[468] Yeah.
[469] Drinking a mug of my face.
[470] So how long have you been trying to do this?
[471] be healthy in 34 years It hasn't really worked You just got to write down That you don't allow yourself to drink at night Or allow yourself to eat shitty food at night If you could just do that Yeah I started keeping it out of the crib And then the good thing is You know how L .A. really helps fat people Is there's no bodegas See in New York it's like You could just walk downstairs and be fat And eat anything you want That's true And I miss bodegas That was the big thing But in L .A They've taken the bodegas The Vegas away.
[472] Yeah, New York City.
[473] Yeah.
[474] New York City has a lot of weird spots where you can just show up.
[475] Well, New York City has restaurants that are open 24 hours a day that are really good.
[476] Yeah.
[477] That's crazy.
[478] Incredible.
[479] L .A. has a few, but they're super ethnic.
[480] Like, you can go to Thai town and you can get some late -night Thai food.
[481] Love it.
[482] Come on.
[483] Come on, son.
[484] There's some fucking badass Thai food that's open up in L .A. Yeah.
[485] If you take Hollywood or sunset.
[486] Hollywood.
[487] take Hollywood down and keep going east there's uh so that is not orange it's what i'm saying right someone needs to go to jail for lying oof call that orange natural orange so hollywood and sunset you go out there yeah well um take hollywood um east of of highland keep going and on the right hand side maybe like four or five miles there's like a whole tie area that um you'll go through like these these areas where it's maybe like 20 or 30 Thai restaurants in a row down there.
[488] And there's one place that's open.
[489] I'll take you down there, man, if you want to go.
[490] There's one place that's open late at night.
[491] I used to go with my buddy Rob Kamen, World Kickboxing Champion.
[492] And he took me down to that place after training one night.
[493] It's fantastic.
[494] And it's open to like 2, 3 o 'clock in the morning.
[495] What's the name?
[496] I don't remember the name of the place because it's like some funky name.
[497] Yeah, I've been going to Thai town to this spot.
[498] Soap coffee shop is good.
[499] But they're not 24 hours.
[500] They're good, though.
[501] Thai coffee's hilarious because I mean just why don't just shoot sugar into my veins with a needle Yeah you know like Thai iced tea and Thai ice coffee that stuff is it's insane they put sugar and Condensed milk yeah like one wasn't enough yeah it's double sugared up yeah so yummy right When someone does the organic tie spot or or whatever it's gonna be sugar condensed milk and Agave that's what they're gonna do agave is supposed to be super bad for you oh yeah well everybody thinks it agave is like it's all natural man it's a Agave.
[502] Agave is really good.
[503] Agave is apparently converted into your body just like sugar, just like cane sugar.
[504] Huh.
[505] Now you know.
[506] If you don't know, not getting no. I never thought it could be too great for you, too, though, because it looks like it's made from the same thing they make tequila from.
[507] So I'm like, right?
[508] Tequila bad for you?
[509] Mm. Mm. True.
[510] Okay.
[511] Could be good.
[512] It depends on who you're with.
[513] Long term bad.
[514] Short term, incredible.
[515] Mm -hmm.
[516] It's a trade -off.
[517] Again, it depends on the common.
[518] company you keep you know so this stuff exogenous ketones this is the way to go it's a good a little pick -me -up in between meals too i feel hot yeah do you hot like sexy yeah real fucking like thin like real skinny yeah yeah real fucking hot boy over here the skinny look yeah it's coming back we're bringing it back mine mine's mainly for basketball man but also i've been a human panda for a I'd like to be a human red panda.
[519] They're a little more athletic and agile.
[520] Red pandas?
[521] Yeah, I see them in trees and shit.
[522] Oh, they climb.
[523] I'm kind of jealous.
[524] You know, I'm like the fat fucking panda stuck to the floor.
[525] Do you have a trainer?
[526] Yeah, I do.
[527] Really?
[528] I do.
[529] I've been training with this dude Justin.
[530] He's good.
[531] Okay.
[532] Yeah.
[533] He started this gym called Lit Method.
[534] It's been pretty good.
[535] What kind of shit do you do?
[536] Well, I has it isometric, pliometrics, and then sometimes I'll do weights and then I play ball.
[537] So that's kind of like the four things I do.
[538] You ever fuck with kettlebells?
[539] Yeah.
[540] Yeah.
[541] Kettlebells are good.
[542] Good.
[543] I do the kettlebell swings and shit like that and then step -ups with kettlebells.
[544] Right.
[545] Yeah.
[546] I like kettle bells.
[547] I feel like you got to get to a level of buffness for kettlebells, but I do.
[548] No, you can start with light ones.
[549] Yeah.
[550] Yeah.
[551] The right way to do.
[552] This is an interesting podcast that I've been listening to with this guy, Pavel Tatsuline.
[553] He's like sort of the guy who brought kettle bells to America.
[554] And he's on Tim Ferriss's podcast.
[555] I want to say number 55 or 155.
[556] Yeah, I just found it last night if you told me about it.
[557] It's back in this catalog, but it's around 50, 50.
[558] 55, right?
[559] Yeah.
[560] His two podcasts in a row, and he talks about, like, the correct way to do kettlebells and the correct way to strength train.
[561] And one of the things that he's saying is you should never do more than five repetitions.
[562] You should, like, say if you can lift something, if you have 100 pounds, you can lift 100 pounds nine times.
[563] You shouldn't do it nine times.
[564] You should do it five.
[565] Do it five, then put it down.
[566] Don't go to failure.
[567] And the idea is the body's not designed to go to failure.
[568] failure.
[569] The idea that going to failure all the time, you think, we have this idea in our head, and I'm guilty of it more than anybody, is that more is better.
[570] You know, I'm going to fucking work harder than everybody else, and that's what's going to do it.
[571] Well, that's not really the right way to do it when it comes to the human body.
[572] Because even though your mind can push your body to extreme limits, oftentimes you get better results by not pushing your body to extreme limits, by pushing your body intelligently, allowing your body's sufficient time to recover and then doing it again.
[573] And then doing it more often, but with less repetitions so this is the thing i i've been joking around like oh i lose what is that it's true i want to do it for basketball but the thing i love about working out and basketball is it teaches you shit like this right because i think everything in the universe has the same principles do you know i mean like if you're cooking more is not always better right if you're making music more is not always better right like putting more things into a beat yeah you need negative space right things need space time to breathe and then so does the human body and so i agree and so i agree I don't do, like, exercises to fail.
[574] I do them, and my train is pretty good.
[575] Like, we'll go in and we'll do, like, 18 different exercises, and we switch each time.
[576] It's not, like, sets of three and going, increasing in weight.
[577] You've seen, I'm sure you've seen this, Giro Dreams of Sushi.
[578] Yeah.
[579] Amazing, right?
[580] One of the things that I love about that is the simplicity of this guy's methods.
[581] I mean, that, if you haven't seen that documentary, man, I was so skeptical.
[582] I'm like, I'm not watching a fucking documentary about a dude to make sushi.
[583] Like, how fucking hard is it to make sushi?
[584] Cut the fish, shut the fuck up.
[585] How hard is that?
[586] It's hard as fuck.
[587] It's hard as fuck.
[588] But the methods of this guy employ is like you would think, how hard is it to do?
[589] Well, it's not necessarily that it's hard, but there's a right way to do it where it's, he's figured out like, do you add this amount of this or that amount of this?
[590] Do you let it sit for six hours?
[591] You let it sit for 12 hours and he's nailed it and got it down to a science.
[592] But if you did anything more than what he's doing, it would actually be less.
[593] Yeah, you know, like a nice piece of seared ahi, for example.
[594] How hard is that?
[595] It's not hard at all.
[596] You get a fresh piece of ahi, you sear it, but God damn when it's done right, it tastes good.
[597] Yeah, every culture is, it's similar.
[598] You go eat like the original food, the traditional food authentic.
[599] Like I went to Sicily, it's just red tuna, Sicilian red tuna on a griddle.
[600] The best restaurant I went to in Sicily was doing tuna on the griddle, low heat with olive oil, and it was just salt.
[601] and it was the best piece of seared tuna I ever had.
[602] Wow.
[603] Yeah.
[604] We went to Piccolo Napoli on the Sicily episode.
[605] It was good.
[606] They're big on seafood, right?
[607] Cicely's huge on seafood.
[608] Cicely's incredible on seafood, and they're very smart because they don't add much to it.
[609] They just use their olive oil, that low heat, sear, real nice, take their time.
[610] It's incredible.
[611] Well, I think that minimalism in a lot of ways, even in music, like sometimes you listen to an acoustic song, just a dude in a guitar, a woman in a guitar, and it's the best.
[612] song you've ever heard for that moment.
[613] I mean, if there was one more piece of fishing equipment on this shirt, it fucking suck.
[614] Right.
[615] It would be terrible.
[616] There's just...
[617] Extra nets.
[618] There's just enough fishing equipment on this shirt.
[619] You love that shirt, dude.
[620] I do.
[621] It all comes back to the shirt.
[622] Tell me about your new vice show, man. What do you got going on?
[623] It's been...
[624] You know what?
[625] This has been...
[626] Since I've met you, it's been in the works.
[627] Almost...
[628] I feel like it's a five -year journey.
[629] Really?
[630] We started this idea, and then we went through it.
[631] did it on the internet, you know, eight -minute clips, 10 -minute clips, and we did that for two years.
[632] And the last two years, I haven't had any episodes out because we've just been grinding, and we've been in the lab, eight episodes, and it took us eight years.
[633] And I have to give respect.
[634] You know, a lot of people look at, say, other travel shows or Tony Bourdain, and you hear a lot of people pitch things around town in New York, oh, yeah, this is like the new Tony Bordane, or that's the new Tony Bordane.
[635] You know what?
[636] We got in the lab and we made an hour -long travel show.
[637] It's a similar format and, you know, thing that Tony is doing because he created this format.
[638] And I have to pay respect.
[639] It's hard as fuck.
[640] Well, what Tony did was he was the first guy that ever had a cooking show that I wanted to hang out with.
[641] Yes.
[642] And Tony is the first one that put a narrative to a cooking show.
[643] He gave it a narrative in a story and character.
[644] And so he created this format that a lot of people have, like, followed in his footsteps.
[645] But I've always felt like, you know, when I started, people were like, oh, next Tony or whatever.
[646] And Tony was really helpful to me in my career and he really supported me. But I was like, you know what?
[647] My purpose in life wasn't to be another version of my dad.
[648] My dad wanted me to work in his steakhouse when I was a kid and just be like, you own this restaurant after me and we're going to sell steak.
[649] That's what the Wong's doing.
[650] And I was like, Dad, I don't think that can be the point to my life.
[651] It can't be just to emulate you and be like you.
[652] and when it came to me doing this vice stuff I've been for five years figuring out how to get my voice and my story and the things I care about to translate to tape and it looked it maybe looked a lot easier than I thought it did but once you get to it and you start to see what really makes these shows great you want to honor it you want to respect it and you want to work hard so we took two years to make these eight episodes wow that's a long ass of time I think you know when you're trying to create a television show it takes a while for a show to find its legs right to figure out what it is yeah with anything even with a sitcom or a talk show you know I mean uh I was there for the early days the Conan O 'Brien show one of my buddies was one of the writers and I got to see them do it and it's it was I remember being there going wow it's gonna be interesting to see how this works out because this is obviously on Bambi legs right now like yeah it's like like a fawn yeah my thing was I always had the vision and I knew what I wanted to do so that was part one then the last few years have been actually doing it and then once you do it the hardest part in this town is convincing other people that they should put it out you know because other people look at and they're like oh well it's not like it's not like Tony and it's not like this show like what is this and I'm like just it's different and that's the point because I didn't want to go make a show that's like anybody else's it may be the same time format and you say 44 minute travel show structure unstructured reality whatever but I was I was like, this is a new thing, but it took me a long time to get the vision, create it, and then get people to believe in it.
[653] You know, getting people to believe in your shit is, I think, the hard.
[654] That third step is the hardest part.
[655] Well, who did you need to get to believe it?
[656] Because you're doing it on advice, right?
[657] Yeah.
[658] Shane already believes in you.
[659] Shane is the one that gives me the freedom.
[660] Shane, Eddie Moretti, they're the ones that let me do it, you know?
[661] But they're not there every day.
[662] So there's a showrunner, and there's a producer, and there's all these people in between.
[663] He's too busy out in Fukushima shooting radio.
[664] act of wolves and shit I'm on the fucker he's the man I saw him last night Shane's the man and he always gives me the freedom but it's even the people on your crew getting everybody to buy in and believe and we came back with the footage and these things it gets in the post and then everybody who gets to watch it and post has an opinion about what this show should be and I just I fought and fought and fought all eight of these episodes finally we're going to put them out and all eight of them are exactly how I feel about the places I visited and the people people we met.
[665] And my biggest struggle was travel shows, they voiceover a lot.
[666] There's a lot of voiceover.
[667] And it's almost like these shows are written before people go to these towns and these cities.
[668] And what do people say sometimes doesn't matter because the producer or whoever is going has already decided the story he wants to tell.
[669] I go out there and we book the scenes and the thing that made everybody nervous and pre -production was, I was like, I don't know what these people are going to say and we're going to live with the footage and they're like no you have to have an idea you have to like direct the conversation we need a right voiceover and we need to set it up and I was like let's just go to these towns meet these people and let them tell us about their lives their cities their identities and accept the footage and I think being honest accepting footage not manipulating the footage with a ton of voiceover is the real innovation of our show it's verite you see us making the show So it's never like you're not aware we're making a show.
[670] What is the premise of the show?
[671] I'm exploring and deconstructing identities through what people eat.
[672] You're basically like going through their shit.
[673] What's in your poop?
[674] You know what I mean?
[675] You're fucking red tuna, olive oil, you know?
[676] But I'm going through these countries and exploring their history and identity just through what they eat.
[677] Because what you eat tells you so much about who you are, your culture, your values, your politics, and your history.
[678] and what has happened to your ancestors.
[679] Like, where'd you go?
[680] Sicily, Istanbul, Istanbul.
[681] Hunan, China, Sandong, China, Taiwan, Orlando, Juarez, Mexicali.
[682] Damn, you went to Juarez.
[683] Yeah, went to Juarez.
[684] It was great.
[685] How scary is.
[686] It's not scary.
[687] You know, I never would oversell it until, you know, it's fucking scary out there.
[688] I mean, look, everyone there had a story of somebody in their family being killed or kidnapped.
[689] or robbed, it's bad.
[690] You know, it's bad.
[691] But when we went out there, I cannot claim that it was hard or rough for us.
[692] We rode bikes through the city.
[693] And there's a lot of these kids out there doing things trying to take back Juarez.
[694] So you may look at like a bike ride through your town here as like some hipster weird yuppie thing.
[695] But in Juarez, they're like, we would just love the right to be yuppies.
[696] Do you know, have the freedom to be yuppies in this town.
[697] We can't even ride our bikes without a problem here.
[698] So we rode bikes.
[699] with like 50, 60 kids and Warras just kind of civil disobedience trying to take back the streets by riding through them.
[700] So is it, when you say they would like to be able to ride bikes?
[701] Like, it's just because of the drug violence?
[702] There's a lot of violence.
[703] There's a lot of violence.
[704] People are afraid to go outside.
[705] And this is one of the symbolic things that the youth out there do is they try to take back the city and the town by riding through it with bikes.
[706] The butter coffee's got you, huh?
[707] Yeah.
[708] You keep...
[709] Yeah.
[710] No, the coffee's.
[711] killing me but it's great i mean so like what kind of food obviously mexican food but like what kind of food we're getting in Juarez the best food i had was outside the nightclubs there was this one little taco stand in Juarez on the main strip that you know the rolling stones whoever used to go perform at the main venue in Juarez after the show there was this small taco spot all they do is like el pastore you go over there and that was the best taco i've ever had What does that stand for, El Paso?
[712] What does it mean?
[713] It's...
[714] The pastor?
[715] No. I don't know.
[716] I just know you get pineapples and it's grilled pork and it's on a spit.
[717] And it's incredible.
[718] My thing is usually tongue.
[719] I like Langua.
[720] I like beef tongue tacos.
[721] But that Alpasteur taco was the best I had.
[722] Wow.
[723] And the Rolling Stones used to go there?
[724] Yeah.
[725] After the shows and stuff like that.
[726] How long ago were they going to Juarez Mexico?
[727] It's like in the 70s or something?
[728] Yeah.
[729] Yeah.
[730] And El Paso.
[731] They would do the show.
[732] in El Paso and then cross over and shit like that.
[733] Really?
[734] Yeah.
[735] They would do shows in El Paso and then go to Mexico for food.
[736] And then they also did them, I believe, I have to catch myself.
[737] I have to check the tape.
[738] I can't remember if they did the shows in El Paso and went to Juarez to party after, or it's they did the show in Juarez and went to the taco stand because they did have a venue next door to this thing.
[739] So I think it's some bands did El Paso came over.
[740] Some bands did the venue next to the taco spot and went over.
[741] But it was a combination.
[742] It's crazy.
[743] The Rolling Stones, I can't remember.
[744] if they were El Paso or Juarez, but there were tons of bands in that triangle going back and forth between the border, and people would come across the border to party in Juarez, and it was a thing.
[745] Well, it was no big deal back then.
[746] That's what's crazy is that when I was a kid, you never heard about violence in Mexico.
[747] People had to go to Mexico to party.
[748] Everybody go to Acapoco.
[749] Yeah, Tijuana.
[750] People would go to Tijuana.
[751] Tijuana was just fun.
[752] I mean, it was crazy.
[753] You know, they would all talk about donkey shows and all the crazy shit that you'd go over there and see, but it was never like, don't go to Tijuana because of drug violence.
[754] Yeah.
[755] That all happened during the Bush administration.
[756] Yep.
[757] Like, I went to Cancun in like 2002 or something like that for MTV, and MTV did a spring break thing down there, and man, it was fun, it was great, and then within seven or eight years, nobody would go.
[758] Yeah.
[759] I mean, within seven or eight years, everybody's terrified to going to Mexico.
[760] All you heard in the news, and I'm sure a lot of it was exaggerated, and I mean, if It bleeds, it leads, right?
[761] If the news is going to show you some shit about Mexico, it's not going to show you Alpasteur tacos and how great it is on the street.
[762] No. The murders are real, but then the thing is, is that we have to remember, in all these towns you see these murders, you see the gang violence.
[763] There's real people living through that shit.
[764] Yeah.
[765] There's real people trying to live normal lives, and that's why we did this episode on the border towns in Mexico.
[766] We went to Tijuana, Mexico, and we tried to show the lives that these people are trying to live next to a superpower.
[767] Because just by the sheer nature and geography of them living on the border next to a superpower, of course, crime is going to leak into their towns.
[768] The dirt's going to be done on their side.
[769] The product's going to be sent to our side, you know.
[770] And so we tried to capture their lives.
[771] And so that's an example of one episode of the show, you know.
[772] Well, the other problem is they're like sort of, their economy is completely connected to the United States in a lot of ways.
[773] Whereas, like, there's plenty of violence in America that we don't even consider.
[774] Like, nobody's scared to go to Chicago.
[775] But Chicago is fucked up, man. There's more gun violence in Chicago than almost anywhere in North America.
[776] And Chicago is terrible right now.
[777] Yeah, it's definitely in America.
[778] It's the most murders in any cities.
[779] It's right up there.
[780] I think it's Chicago and Detroit.
[781] But no one's like, oh, my God, we can't go to Chicago.
[782] Because it's all in the south side.
[783] You know?
[784] Let's go to Chicago.
[785] We don't even consider it.
[786] Yeah, it's all on the south side.
[787] But, I mean, that's sort of the same way people have to live.
[788] look at about Mexico, although I do have to tell you this one story.
[789] I went to this resort recently in Mexico near Puerto Vallarta and I was like, wow, this place is so pretty.
[790] Like, how is it that Mexico has all this drug violence and all this problems?
[791] But there's this beautiful resort and all these wealthy people go to vacation at this resort and they have these little golf carts that they give you on the resort to move around the resort.
[792] And we took the golf cart and they're like, you can go into the city if you like, you know, you can take the golf carts anywhere you want.
[793] It's like, And we went a block from that resort, one block.
[794] And we found a fucking small military based with armored vehicles, with dudes sitting on there, on machine guns, with steel plates in front of them ready to rock at a moment's notice.
[795] So that's how they keep these wealthy people, like, protected.
[796] I was like, wow, this is a wake -up call right here.
[797] And that's the thing that, like, our leaders never do a good job of.
[798] That violence in the south side of Chicago, that should affect all.
[799] Americans but it doesn't and until it affects somebody who doesn't live in the south side and the murder accidentally bleeds into the wrong neighborhood on the north side nobody really cares nobody pays attention and that's why we went to mexico too because there's this border that is a false border like mother nature didn't put a border there we put a fucking no no god made that border son god made the border between the united states and mexico god made it that way god has a plan exactly we are the chosen people exactly and so i just wanted to show you show like, hey man, on the other side of this artificial line, this is what's going on.
[800] And just because they're a different color than you or it's a different country, it doesn't mean you shouldn't care about this.
[801] Like, this is a human problem.
[802] Well, people are so terrified of opening up the borders of Mexico and letting people go back and forth.
[803] They're so terrified of the idea, but how many Mexicans are already over here illegally?
[804] And it doesn't seem to be that much of a problem.
[805] No. I mean, there's plenty of natural born Americans that are fucking things up just as bad as anybody else.
[806] And most of the Mexicans I know are hardworking that are very friendly.
[807] Like, if you go to Mexico, one of the things you find, like, right away is how friendly people are.
[808] Mexico's a nice place.
[809] It's an incredible place.
[810] Super nice.
[811] I never felt threatened or anything.
[812] And the thing is, is that the world needs more transparency and mobility, right?
[813] The thing that I noticed for two years traveling around the globe, going to all these places, Mediterranean, Sicily, where there's immigration issues, Istanbul, you know, Mexico on the borders.
[814] We need transparency because the leaders of this world are drawing lines all around creating divisions that are not there between me and you or Jamie or people in Mexico that I met, you know, and we need to have mobility because it can't just be my dumb luck that I was born in America.
[815] Right.
[816] And that I'm going to have a better life because my mom popped a squat here.
[817] Right.
[818] You know, it's sad.
[819] Like I go around the world.
[820] I'm like, man, if that person was born here, they'll probably be doing a better job than and what I'm doing.
[821] Well, it's eroding.
[822] It's eroding slowly, but not quick enough.
[823] Not quick enough.
[824] You know, what used to be a necessity, like we had to keep our tribe away from invading tribes because we couldn't communicate with them.
[825] We didn't know their language.
[826] People came from some other land to try to take our resources.
[827] We had to protect it.
[828] They would come over in boats and they'd rape and pillage.
[829] That's not really the case anymore.
[830] So this necessity of having these borders and especially in 2016, having it where you can't go back and forth.
[831] You can't even cross into lands.
[832] You have the right papers and you definitely can't work here because you'd be taking our jobs.
[833] Yeah.
[834] Taking our jobs.
[835] There's plenty in the world, man. Like people and the 1 % got to get better of sharing too, you know, because there's people in the world that just sit on piles of shit and it's not in the economy.
[836] White people.
[837] Say white people?
[838] No, what you're saying?
[839] Rockabellers.
[840] There's Middle Eastern.
[841] There's Chinese too.
[842] There's a lot of Chinese people sitting on piles of shit that's not moving.
[843] Well, that's, yeah, well, stockpiling wealth is a weird thing.
[844] Right?
[845] When people get to this point where they just constantly, well, if you have like billions and billions of dollars, but yet you're still involved in constantly trying to accumulate wealth, that's a little weird too.
[846] I wanted to run this idea by you.
[847] Please do.
[848] Because I listen to a show and I love the ideas you bring up.
[849] I'm convinced and I wish there was a politician that was promoting this, but I think there should be a salary cap on the world.
[850] A salary cap?
[851] Because you put it in sports and it works, right?
[852] But think about it.
[853] Do you, would you ever need more than $500 million?
[854] Me?
[855] Yeah.
[856] I've got plans, dude.
[857] Come on.
[858] For real.
[859] I need islands and shit, rocket ships.
[860] I want to go to the moon.
[861] I feel like you could go to the moon for under 500 mil.
[862] I guarantee you can't.
[863] Isn't there that one dude, the backstreet boy, Lance Bass, went to the moon?
[864] He's going to go to the moon on a big dick.
[865] That's what he's going to do.
[866] But, okay, so you would need more than 500 mil.
[867] I don't know.
[868] No, no, not in real life.
[869] No, not if I'm being serious.
[870] But here's...
[871] How much money would get put back into the market and, like, would be distributed if you just set a salary cap at 500 mil?
[872] Well.
[873] That would break up so much money.
[874] It's interesting, but someone who makes more than $500 million could take that money and start a gigantic business and hire hundreds of millions of people.
[875] I mean, just because you have, I don't know, hundreds of millions of people.
[876] Trickle -down economics is real.
[877] Just like God had us born here in America.
[878] God also made it so you don't have a salary.
[879] cap yeah um it it's interesting but if you play a monopoly and which is that's what everybody's doing right everybody's there's funny money what's a game i mean there's the capitalism in a lot of ways is a lot like a game you're trying to accumulate and some people are more dedicated to that game and they try to accumulate constantly i mean if i was more dedicated to just doing the things that i do if i was more dedicated in a capitalist sense i would accumulate more money but my personal belief is that would fuck with me creatively because it would take away resources that I use for other things.
[880] It would fuck with the way I do the podcast.
[881] If you only think about how much money you can make, there's certain things you wouldn't say, there's certain ways you wouldn't speak.
[882] And the irony in my business is that would ultimately cost me money because my product would suffer.
[883] So I think in a lot of ways the game of capitalism itself, just calling it a game, it's very problematic if you have a cap on how much money you can make in that game because there's always going to be these outliers these Michael Jordan's of sport that take things to the fucking endth level and go deep and want to make as much money as they possibly can and I don't necessarily think that that's bad I think you should have the freedom to be fucking crazy you should have the freedom if you want to make you want to be the first guy that makes a hundred billion dollars you should have the freedom to do that but But as a human being who makes that much money, you also should have an understanding of what kind of an impact you can have on other people with that money.
[884] From your own personal perspective, you can take that money and invest it in different communities.
[885] You can start programs.
[886] You could give people scholarships.
[887] You could do all this amazing stuff with that money that you wouldn't be able to do if somebody put a cap and said you can only make 500 million bucks.
[888] But here's the way I see money, right?
[889] Money is something we've created.
[890] Money is a man -made creation, this idea of money, is to attach value to things.
[891] That's what money is.
[892] So the game isn't making money.
[893] Money is like an award.
[894] So it's like if a movie director was like, yes, I make movies to win Oscars.
[895] That's not what the game is.
[896] It should be to make a great film.
[897] It should be to live a good life.
[898] And we reward you along the way because if you do things that are of value to a society, we pay you.
[899] Right.
[900] You know?
[901] But the game is basketball.
[902] The game is football.
[903] The game is movies.
[904] The game is podcasting or truth -telling.
[905] It's not making money.
[906] And that's where I think human beings in society have lost their way because now it's just about winning the award.
[907] It's not about doing the work.
[908] Right, but where's that money go, though?
[909] Here's the problem.
[910] Here's the problem.
[911] Say if you say Eddie Wong could only make $500 million a year.
[912] But all of a sudden, you're bowling and you hit that ceiling.
[913] Tink, tink.
[914] You're just slamming up against that ceiling every year.
[915] And you're like, you know what, man, I would have made $3 billion this year.
[916] But I only made $5 .000.
[917] hundred million because there's a fucking cap on this bitch I could have taken that money I could invest it in communities I could have started all these these centers for young kids and that's the thing out the people I know and you if let's say you had 500 mil you couldn't make anymore I bet you'd still do this podcast I bet you'd still be working out you'd still be telling jokes I'd be living on a mountain ranting about the government where's the rest of my fucking money yeah and you'd be taping it but what would you do with the rest of the money how's it work so like say if you made three billion dollars one year but the cap was at 500 million so they just cut you off and all the rest of that money goes where yeah you your idea sucks no come on no throw that fucking idea away I have a few I have a few I have a few oh the government give it to Bernie Sandbrook it wouldn't be the government it's redistribute the wealth now I think that you have to then find a way to distribute it through nonprofits and things like that right and then you get like Red Cross where like 80 % the money goes to bullshit yeah doesn't even go to the actual people we would have to build a better infrastructure.
[918] We would have to build a better infrastructure for social services and public interest and things like that.
[919] Because yes, the nonprofit sector, a lot of the times it's super ineffective at remedying the issues that everybody's giving them money for.
[920] Well, the problem is that there's so much money involved in red tape and bullshit and employees and overhead and all the different operating costs.
[921] When you look at the actual operating costs involved in charities and you compare it to how much money actually goes to the charity that you're sending money to, it's disturbing.
[922] It makes people feel sad.
[923] But I'll tell you this, like, I just think that we have to reconfigure our values and how we value things.
[924] And, like, we're stuck on this money thing.
[925] Like, the human species is, we're stuck on money.
[926] Well, I think we're stuck on money because a lot of people don't have it.
[927] And so it's the ultimate thing that, like, some people have too much of it.
[928] Some people do.
[929] Like, when you don't have money, like when I was young and I didn't have Disney.
[930] I got a development deal when I was like 24 and all of a sudden I didn't have to worry about my bills.
[931] It was the first time in my life.
[932] I didn't have to worry about my bills and I was like my rent is taking care of this month.
[933] I can go out to eat and I remember it was like a physical feeling of like a physical feeling of relaxation like now all the sudden the the overhead cloud of debt and and worry about my bills had lifted and the sun was shining and I was like oh and I We'll never forget that feeling because that feeling was a revelation as far as like how much stress I was under and most people are under on a daily basis.
[934] So because of that stress, what people think about is, man, I got to make money because that is the way to get away from this fucking stress.
[935] Yes.
[936] You know, because it becomes this carrot that you never get to eat.
[937] Yeah.
[938] A dangling carrot, you know?
[939] Money gives you freedom.
[940] And my brother Emery's idea with the salary cap thing is he's a bit of a futurist.
[941] He's like, yo, I read a lot of these things.
[942] robots can like do a lot of our agriculture in the future we can have a lot of our processes that require human beings to clock in and clock out and punch buttons to like go to robots in the future oh i see what you're trying to do you're trying to get rid of the american farmer okay and so he says this he says this right and he was like some people want to play the game eddie he's like you you wake up every day you want to write you want to go do something you want to be productive he's like some people they just want to live and so after the salary cap after 500 million What if that money from those billionaires and one percenters goes into Guaranteeing a baseline amount of wealth maybe it's $30 ,000 and it goes to American people who are not making that much money and it's like here's 30 ,000 here's your bills taking care of here's an apartment now you have no excuse You have no excuse go do something you care about go do something you love contribute back to society because this wealth that this guy's making is going to guarantee you baseline amount of living if you really do If you really do like reading YouTube comments, read the comments on how retarded that idea is because people are fucking lazy and if you give people guaranteed money they're not going to do shit.
[943] They're going to jack off into the street.
[944] They're going to take shits on cars as they pass by.
[945] They're going to do whatever.
[946] They're doing it anyway.
[947] People are lazy.
[948] They're doing it anyway.
[949] But you remove the incentive to work.
[950] Like if you give people, you're going to create a welfare world.
[951] But if you have robots right?
[952] If you have robots doing this stuff, Right?
[953] This is my brother's thing and I'll fight for his idea.
[954] If you have if you have robots that can do agriculture and It's true.
[955] There's machines everywhere they're doing things that humans used to do in the future.
[956] We will have machines that can do a lot of the process That humans do and it's like why continue to penalize people who just aren't they don't have the drive and they don't want to do things It's not penalizing them.
[957] They have to pull their own weight like the whole reason why there's an incentive to work Yeah, it's because if you work you earn something and you don't just survive you earn something and you earn something in you get to understand that effort can equal reward.
[958] Now, if people don't have effort equals reward, the government just gives your reward, then it becomes, how come I only get $30 ,000?
[959] I can barely get buy on $30 ,000.
[960] When Bill Gates has all this money, I should get $50 ,000, so I can get a Camaro.
[961] But then, you're looking at the worst or the worst.
[962] Yo, there's a lot of people I know that work for me. It's human nature, man. If you take people from scratch and make them entitled from scratch and just have them program to think that money comes free and it's coming often, then you have a nation of spoiled kids.
[963] You ever seen a spoiled kids that come from rich parents that get everything they want?
[964] You're going to spoil all.
[965] Let me ask you.
[966] You're also going to kill motivation.
[967] Do you think you can change people?
[968] You definitely can change them if you give them $30 ,000 a year.
[969] You can make them lazy.
[970] You can't.
[971] You make people lazy and they didn't earn that money.
[972] You can't just give people money for no reason.
[973] That doesn't help people contribute.
[974] It doesn't make a better society.
[975] I just want to secure a lazy group of people.
[976] Shelter, clothing, food.
[977] health services.
[978] I just want a thin to hurt.
[979] Okay, I want wolves in the streets.
[980] I want to make it harder.
[981] I'm kind of into that.
[982] I want people to have to live in the woods for a month out of the year.
[983] Yeah.
[984] I've just worked with some people where, man, there's these people who work super hard and we can't pay them enough.
[985] It's not in the budget.
[986] There's not the opportunity.
[987] And I'm like, man, I wish I could do more for this guy.
[988] Then there's people.
[989] Well, what do you mean?
[990] Like, what people?
[991] This is a very utopian.
[992] There's guys that work on the show with me. There's guys and girls that work on the show, APs, things like that, and I'm like, man, you know what?
[993] I wish we could pay you more because I think you're doing great work, but the economics of this project and this show, this is what it is.
[994] Then I have people who I've worked with on other shows where they just don't show up.
[995] They don't show up.
[996] They don't work hard.
[997] They're just clocking in, clocking out, and they don't care.
[998] Right.
[999] But the people that do work hard.
[1000] That guy will never change.
[1001] That guy will never, I will never change that guy.
[1002] They might, but they would have to have some sort of a life -affirming experience.
[1003] Like something would have to happen, a near -death experience, a losing a loved one, a revelation, a psychedelic drug experience.
[1004] But some of my biggest fights, my biggest failures in life, Joe, is me trying to inspire or give motivation to someone who just does not care.
[1005] Yeah, you can't do that.
[1006] If you give people $30 ,000 a year, that's what you're going to get.
[1007] You're going to get a nation filled with them.
[1008] Look, people need incentive.
[1009] Don't jerk off somewhere, bad.
[1010] They need an incentive.
[1011] They need something to get them to work.
[1012] And then in doing that, you create people that understand and value, hard work, and discipline and it's not just about making money it's also about understanding yourself and knowing that you can accomplish things and not just accomplish things from a financial standpoint but accomplish things as far as like going on a diet and taking care of your health pursuing an athletic goal pursuing a creative goal of like finishing a book or writing a manuscript or there's there's a lot of things that people won't do if you just give them money i agree i've i've met a lot of crappy entitled people who they they don't give an effort because they don't don't have to.
[1013] There are a lot of those people, but then I meet a lot of people who they just don't have their baseline needs.
[1014] And there's a part of me that's like, man, I wish I could guarantee baseline needs for these people.
[1015] Because even if they wanted to work, there isn't an opportunity for them.
[1016] Right, but baseline needs, all right, in this country, if you look at like the amount of people in this country that have baseline need issues and how much money they earn as opposed to the rest of the world, you know, there's a crazy statistic that I've quoted before, if you make more than $34 ,000 a year, you are in the 1 % of the world.
[1017] Yeah.
[1018] The world.
[1019] The planet Earth.
[1020] But living in America, you make $30 ,000.
[1021] There's some people, man, like, they can't even pay parking tickets and they end up in jail.
[1022] And they have jobs and they work and it's fucking hard.
[1023] Parking tickets get you in jail?
[1024] Really?
[1025] Yeah, there's a few cases, not a few, there's tons of cases where you don't pay your parking tickets, they pull you over again, late parking tickets.
[1026] They'll end up putting you in jail.
[1027] Like, there was a case.
[1028] I think it was in, I think there was a couple cases in Ferguson, Missouri that people were talking about last year with, with a woman, a couple people who did not have the money to pay their parking tickets or traffic violations and then over time you can't pay, you end up in jail.
[1029] Well, that's kind of crazy.
[1030] They should definitely not have people.
[1031] We could look it up, Jamie.
[1032] Yeah.
[1033] Let's not.
[1034] But they could definitely, I mean, definitely do better than put people in jail for not.
[1035] Parking tickets are fucking ridiculous.
[1036] Crazy.
[1037] of all.
[1038] I mean, if there's a violation as far as like someone parking in front of a fire hydrant or something like that, that makes sense to me or parking in front of a driveway, like that kind of shit.
[1039] But the idea that you're charging people, but the idea that you're charging people to park on the street is fucking gross anyway.
[1040] That you have a meter and I have to put money in this meter so I could park my car.
[1041] How about fuck you?
[1042] You know, these are streets that we're paying for with our taxes, by the way.
[1043] This is a public street and the idea that you're going to just steal money from people because they have to park somewhere.
[1044] Yeah.
[1045] It's gross.
[1046] And not only that, you have this fucking asshole in a bus or this little scooter thing that goes around and gives tickets and marks your tire with chalk to make sure that you're, you know, you've not been parking there for northern 90 minutes.
[1047] They'll give you a ticket for that, too.
[1048] It's all gross, man. All that shit's gross.
[1049] Either way, next time I come on, I need to have a more fully fleshed out salary cap idea, but I'm telling you, like, I've been thinking about this thing.
[1050] I like the idea of a salad cap.
[1051] That's not going to do it.
[1052] I mean, there's got to be ways that are better than that.
[1053] And the big way is my feeling.
[1054] I mean, I've discussed this before, but my feeling that this country has a lot of places where you're like Baltimore.
[1055] I had Michael Wood on on the podcast before.
[1056] He's a former police officer from Baltimore who talked about how crazy it is there and how they would find, when he was a cop, they found this manifest from like the 1970s.
[1057] It was a directive of like how to engage in different areas and where the crime is and where the drug violence is.
[1058] And he's like, this was the same shit that we were dealing with in the 2000s.
[1059] He's like, is the same areas, the same problems, the same exact, like, this is where the drugs are, this is where the crime is.
[1060] It was the same thing.
[1061] He's like, no one fixed it.
[1062] And when you're stuck in that kind of a cycle, that is where the government should be sending money.
[1063] We're always sending money to these countries, sending money to Afghanistan and Iraq and trying to rebuild nations.
[1064] How about rebuild this fucking nation?
[1065] How about these problems that we have, if we want this country to be stronger, the best way to make a stronger country is to have less losers, right?
[1066] Now, when you get a shitty hand, if you have two ones, but you have four aces, well, what the fuck, man?
[1067] Give them one.
[1068] Well, we have to figure out a way, we have to figure out a way to make the hands that people are dealt with in life far easier to move with.
[1069] Yes.
[1070] And there's a lot of people that are dealt with a fucking terrible, shitty hand, and we just turn a blind eye towards these terrible, impoverished communities that are fucking, filled with crime and these children that grow up there by the time they get to be 17 and 18 they've seen so much shit and the programming in their mind is so so disturbing because everything that they've been involved with everything they've seen they've seen loved ones get incarcerated they've seen people get shot they've seen crime they've seen a lack of hope they've seen police brutality they've seen all these terrible things that is what we need to clean up in this country You're not keep people from making tons of money.
[1071] Well, the thing is, all right, if I take the salary cap thing away, my idea is this, though, is I want to guarantee a baseline of living for people in America.
[1072] So it's like, they're...
[1073] But they have to work for that.
[1074] See, you don't know.
[1075] What you're just saying, though...
[1076] What if someone just wants to sit there, feed me?
[1077] Joe, I know a lot of people that want to work and they can't get jobs.
[1078] Well, that's a different story, though.
[1079] And also, if you're born in some of those communities, the key word you said is hope.
[1080] A lot of kids don't have hope.
[1081] I remember a kid that I used to hustle.
[1082] with.
[1083] There's a good guy.
[1084] Hustle?
[1085] Yeah.
[1086] We sold shit outside the cake shop, whatever, right?
[1087] Weed.
[1088] I was selling weed, whatever.
[1089] It's not a big deal.
[1090] Whatever.
[1091] Weed, Xanax, selling a few things, all right?
[1092] And then he also was like a night manager at Target, right?
[1093] He was a night manager at Target.
[1094] It's kind of wasting away.
[1095] He was like 19, 20 years old.
[1096] Incredible basketball player.
[1097] One of the best AAU basketball players I've seen.
[1098] And he got offers to play at some Jukos and things like that and I remember one day we went up to Harlem to get the work and I was coming back down on the train and I was like fam you should sign up you should go to that juco you should enroll like right now it's July there's still time you enroll now you could be in there for the fall semester and you could play ball you're 19 years old do this man and I remember we just passed a stop and he's like nah man it'll never happen I'm like why and he's like you don't get it Eddie like the way you are your parents like they've taught you you have a chance I don't have a chance he's like I've been told my whole life I don't have a chance you know I live with my grandmother and whether he's right or not I disagree with him he does have a chance but he had psychologically been broken had no hope and did not believe he could do anything and when I saw that it fundamentally changed me because I'm privileged I'm privileged because my parents maybe they beat the crap out of me Maybe they were hard on me, but I never didn't feel like I had a chance if I worked hard.
[1099] There's a lot of people in this world that just for 20 years, they've lived in America and they're like, even if I worked hard, even I see my parents working hard, we just never got the opportunity.
[1100] Right, but those are people I feel bad for.
[1101] There's thousands and thousands and thousands of stories of people who grew up in similar environments that didn't have that mindset, that even though they were told they didn't have any hope, they said, I'll show you.
[1102] I know.
[1103] And they went out and they made their shit happen and they became rich and successful.
[1104] Yeah.
[1105] That guy could have been that.
[1106] He chose to feel sorry for himself.
[1107] You were telling him some good things.
[1108] You were giving him some good advice.
[1109] He didn't want to listen.
[1110] And he didn't want to listen, and he was telling you, he was consciously aware that he had been programmed to think there was no hope.
[1111] If that's what he was telling you, that's on him, man. And there's always going to be that.
[1112] And that is an example for you.
[1113] Because the people that fail in this weird fucking race that we're all in or this weird experience that we're on, when they fail, if you can't help them, at least you can learn from them.
[1114] You know, and we can look along the way at different people that have done terrible things, and we could say, well, what they did was awful and they should be punished.
[1115] And that is almost definitely true.
[1116] But also, we can learn that this could happen to anybody who's in the wrong circumstances, that have the wrong mindset and chooses the wrong actions.
[1117] These, all these things are important.
[1118] These are important, not just for the person that's involved in that situation, but for everyone else observing, because we learn from each other.
[1119] We don't just learn by experience.
[1120] We learn from other people's experiences.
[1121] And it's very, very important that way.
[1122] Because we can experience other people's lives just through sheer communication.
[1123] And it's one of the most beautiful things about social media is that we can all share much more information than has ever been possible before.
[1124] And through that, you can learn, hey, you know who else was told that he would never amount to be shit?
[1125] Jay -Z.
[1126] You know, you know who else grew up in a shitty neighborhood?
[1127] You know, this fucking basketball player or that MMA fighter or this stand -up comedian or that artist, There's a million examples of people who were told they're not going to be shit.
[1128] Yeah, but you're an exceptional dude, and some of the guys you mentioned, they're exceptional dudes.
[1129] I agree with every word you said.
[1130] You're saying everything my parents ever said to me, and I listened, and I fucking did the world.
[1131] My parents told me to get a job.
[1132] That's what my parents did.
[1133] They told me I wasn't funny.
[1134] They told me fighting is dangerous.
[1135] They told me all the wrong things.
[1136] Every step of the way.
[1137] A few months ago that I should still open a law firm.
[1138] She's like, yeah, what you're doing is funny.
[1139] It's cool.
[1140] It's okay.
[1141] but you should do something solid that you can count on.
[1142] That's hilarious.
[1143] My mom still does.
[1144] It's not over it.
[1145] Yeah, lawyers, they die of being tired.
[1146] And just unhappy, miserable.
[1147] You're exhausted, and they just get Coke and hookers and shoot themselves.
[1148] Can I go to the bathroom?
[1149] Yeah, fuck yeah, man. Go to the bathroom.
[1150] It's a good time, Joe.
[1151] Something has hit the internet that I need to show you, I guess.
[1152] It may or may not be legit, but.
[1153] I've decided to retire young, thanks to the cheese, catches later.
[1154] Connor McGregor, he's trolling.
[1155] You think so?
[1156] Fuck, yeah.
[1157] There's a lot of people who have been hitting me up telling me to show you and no one knows what's going on.
[1158] He's decided to retire young, which means like 34.
[1159] Eventually, young not today.
[1160] Listen, man. Unless he got fucking head kicked today and knocked into oblivion, the idea that he's going to go out on a loss like that to Nate Diaz, look, he's got plenty of cash.
[1161] If he wanted to retire young and step away, I mean, I guarantee you.
[1162] he probably made somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 million for the Jose Alda fight he probably made more than that for the Nate Diaz fight I would imagine after he spent a fuckload of it he's probably still got a few million bucks laying around he's a hero in Ireland he could always make money he could always run a gym and be fine but if I had a guess it doesn't make any sense the only reason why it would make sense the only reason why it would make sense is Connor had actually thought about retiring from MMA before he got the call for the UFC.
[1163] There was a point in time where he had some friends that were experiencing, some serious health issues from fighting, and then most recently, that young man from the Portuguese guy died in an MMA contest, which I think took place in the UK.
[1164] Wasn't he involved or related in some way to one of those guys that just died to?
[1165] Didn't he know him or train with them?
[1166] I think he trained with the Portuguese guy that just died recently.
[1167] It is entirely possible, in that sense but if I had a guess there's no way he'd do it like this It also I was talking with someone as this was going on This might not doesn't even seem like how he usually talks on Twitter Sort of like it might he could have gotten hacked maybe But we don't no one really knows what's going on right now If that's it If that's if you got hacked and that's it That's all they're going to do Yeah no I mean It hasn't been deleted yet No one else has really commented on it I would call bullshit But you never know I just highly doubt it stay tuned folks i think he's trolling if i had a guess i'd say he's trolling and fucking around people if he decided i i'm gonna retire young and then like i said like one day or two days later which means around 34 you know he's like 28 now i mean if he's smart he will retire young it's just there's some dudes staying it way too long they wind up with rattled domes gotta get out yeah i feel i feel slim from this kogenic's already do you feel better felt Good.
[1168] Checked out the keg in the bathroom was good.
[1169] It's like a pony keg now.
[1170] Do you have a target weight you're trying to get to or a body fat number?
[1171] Yeah.
[1172] I want to get to like 15, 16 % body fat.
[1173] I'm like 22 right now, 22, 23.
[1174] So you don't have lofty goals.
[1175] You have reasonable goals.
[1176] Yeah, reasonable goals.
[1177] I'm not trying to be like shredded and shit.
[1178] Why not?
[1179] I don't know.
[1180] I kind of like being a dancing bear.
[1181] Do you like it?
[1182] It's good.
[1183] Or is it like your 19 -year -old friend?
[1184] that was like, you don't understand, there's no hope for me. I can never get shredded.
[1185] I just need to be a little bit better at basketball.
[1186] That's it.
[1187] That's it.
[1188] You don't want to be shredded.
[1189] Like, if somebody gave you a pill, say, Eddie, I have a pill right now with no health consequences whatsoever.
[1190] I can give you this pill and you will be fucking LeBron James shredded.
[1191] No, I think part of my identity is being slightly chubby.
[1192] Part of your identity.
[1193] And I've just become more chubby.
[1194] Like, I'm beyond, I'm pre -diabetic, so I need to just watch that.
[1195] Sometimes, some years or some six months I go to the doctor, I'm pre -diabated, and another time I'm not.
[1196] You're pre -diabetic and you're still eating candy at night?
[1197] 18 months ago, I went to the doctor and they were like, you're in the pre -diabic zone.
[1198] Then I got out of it, which was good.
[1199] But it's like, I have to watch it because I'm kind of on the line.
[1200] And yet you're still eating candy late at night.
[1201] What the fuck is wrong with you?
[1202] Got no self -control, man. But then you were thinking everybody should get 30 grand.
[1203] Do you understand, like discipline is an important part of life?
[1204] Do you understand this?
[1205] This is very important.
[1206] No, man, Young Jedi.
[1207] I'm young Jedi.
[1208] I got to get to like full Jedi status, man. I got to work on this.
[1209] You just got to, do you write things down?
[1210] Do you write things down that you have to do?
[1211] Yeah?
[1212] Do you write things down that you just don't do anymore?
[1213] Like this, I won't do this anymore.
[1214] This is not, I'm not, this is not on the menu anymore.
[1215] Yeah, I do that.
[1216] And then sometimes I still fucking do them.
[1217] Well, you can't do that.
[1218] Yeah.
[1219] You got to write things down.
[1220] That's against the point of writing it down, but yeah.
[1221] Just got to give yourself a certain amount.
[1222] Like, here's a good example.
[1223] Give yourself 60 days.
[1224] Say, for 60 days, I'm going to go on a diet where I don't eat any bread, I don't take in any pasta, I don't have any rice.
[1225] I only eat healthy foods.
[1226] Everything is healthy or I don't eat it.
[1227] It's it.
[1228] The rice is the killer, man. Well, rice is a lot of carbs, you know, and it translates directly in your body to sugar.
[1229] And also, it's like it's inflammatory.
[1230] Yeah.
[1231] It causes inflammation.
[1232] You ever do that whole 30 thing?
[1233] Somebody told me about the whole 30.
[1234] What's that?
[1235] It's like no processed foods, no dairy, no alcohol, whole 30.
[1236] For what?
[1237] Why whole 30?
[1238] For 30 days?
[1239] Is that what it is?
[1240] Yeah, it's 30 days.
[1241] and you eat like whole foods and shit.
[1242] Well, I just eat whole foods always now.
[1243] But I've been doing it for, I got on this primal blueprint diet about three months ago.
[1244] And I said I was going to give myself two months.
[1245] But after the two months were over, I'm like, this is how I'm eating now.
[1246] I feel so good.
[1247] Do you drink?
[1248] Yeah, I drink.
[1249] Okay, cool.
[1250] I don't get crazy.
[1251] But occasionally I do.
[1252] Yeah.
[1253] I believe everything in moderation, including moderation.
[1254] So if you're out and you get your freak on and someone says you want to do shots, you're like, fuck yeah, let's do this.
[1255] Get in there, but you don't do it all the time Every now and then But understand the consequences You will get wrecked Yeah You know, but Also Puk Chalmain on a curb like three weeks ago That wasn't awesome Why'd you do it?
[1256] Drinking?
[1257] Drinking Yeah Well, booze is bad But the feeling is great I think there's some amazing things That are accomplished When you're under the influence Incredible things get accomplished I puke Chalmane on a curb But as far as like social things You have great fun with your friends That you'll never forget Yeah.
[1258] There's moments of, like, there's moments during alcohol intoxication where you kind of see things from what they are because the veil that's in front of your mind, the veil of inhibition and struggle and bullshit and insecurity is removed by that alcohol.
[1259] For the most part, alcohol makes people a lot of, makes a lot of people assholes.
[1260] Yeah.
[1261] Because they lose their inhibitions, because they get cocked.
[1262] because they don't have fear anymore.
[1263] It just, it distorts reality.
[1264] Do you get more social or antisocial when you drink?
[1265] More social.
[1266] Yeah, me too.
[1267] I get more social.
[1268] Well, you're a nice guy.
[1269] Nice people become more nice.
[1270] But when someone's an asshole when they're drunk, I usually find that's incredibly revealing of who they're trying not to be when they're sober.
[1271] Like what they're hiding from you when they're sober.
[1272] It usually is like revealing of the demons inside of them.
[1273] Yeah, I just get goofier.
[1274] Yeah, I get silly.
[1275] I want to hug people and shit and I want to laugh.
[1276] Yeah.
[1277] Yeah, I'm a silly, goofy motherfucker, so that's what happens.
[1278] Well, I've had friends that are alcoholics, though, and it's a weird thing when you look and you see those shark eyes.
[1279] We're like, oh, Eddie's not there anymore.
[1280] Clank, you know?
[1281] I don't mean to use your name, but, you know, or Mike's not there anymore.
[1282] You know, you look right in their eye and you're like, where'd they go?
[1283] Angry drunks, too, man. You're like, they're fucking hiding that shit all day.
[1284] Yeah, man. Yeah, dude.
[1285] I went to date with this girl, went on one date, and it was awesome.
[1286] It was great, had a good time, a lot of fun.
[1287] I was like, wow, she's pretty cool.
[1288] next day I meet her at the bar she's already tanked up she's breaking glasses yelling at peaball I was like what what the fuck just just a few drinks it's all it took a few drinks and she went loco did you smash no I ran oh man she sounds like she could have been incredible bro no I knew just breaking records in the bedroom I knew some people that had been into trouble and I learned from other people's experiences no I've never been a fan of drunks especially girls like I just feel like Like, when you, if you, if you're on a date with someone, if you date a drug addict or you date an alcoholic or something like that, man, the burden of just getting to know someone, enjoying their company and being even with each other and enjoying each other's company, it's hard enough to figure out if you're compatible with someone socially without this monkey on their back.
[1289] Yeah.
[1290] Someone's got a heroin problem and you're going to date a girl with a heroin problem.
[1291] Like, I have a buddy, my buddy, Brian Callan, he's the best, but he always used to try to clean these girls up.
[1292] He used to try to take him in.
[1293] Captain Save a hug.
[1294] Oh, he's the worst.
[1295] He was the worst.
[1296] I used to tell him, like, get out now.
[1297] Yeah.
[1298] And he wouldn't do it.
[1299] And then two years later, he was always, man, I should have listened to you.
[1300] Yeah, should have listened to me. Again!
[1301] Again!
[1302] For a fucking a decade, I used to tell this guy.
[1303] If I have the relationship dating a heroin addict or not dating a heroin addict, I'm going to go with the no. Yeah, it's a good move.
[1304] Yeah.
[1305] But some guys are like, yeah, she's just alone and she needs a friend.
[1306] And, you know, once they clean it up, I mean, we all make mistakes.
[1307] They're into it.
[1308] They're into it.
[1309] Well, it's also, here's the reality of Captain Save a host.
[1310] When you find someone's problems are greater than your own, it lets you concentrate on things other than your problems, which you are not fixing because you are a lazy fuck.
[1311] Yeah.
[1312] You know, so you procrastinate, and people find really strange ways to procrastinate.
[1313] And one of the ways they find to procrastinate is to create other problems in their life that take precedent over the problem that they're avoiding.
[1314] I agree.
[1315] I agree.
[1316] I have given the same speech to RP.
[1317] This is.
[1318] This is.
[1319] I agree.
[1320] I have given the same speech to R. is a funny thing.
[1321] I agree with you on all the personal things.
[1322] I don't know why my personal views don't translate to my world views.
[1323] It's kind of funny.
[1324] I'm a lot softer.
[1325] I'm a lot softer with my worldviews than I am with like people and my brothers and people that work with me. I am too.
[1326] I believe in a living wage.
[1327] You know, like I'm down with this Bernie Sanders thing and I love the fact that Governor Cuomo in New York just passed this $15 an hour thing.
[1328] Minimum wage is going to be $15 an hour.
[1329] It's so funny that someone said on my Facebook, you know, you think this is good.
[1330] Like, this is going to destroy a lot of businesses.
[1331] I'm like, yeah.
[1332] You know what they said that about?
[1333] Slavery.
[1334] It's the same shit they said about slavery.
[1335] You abolish slavery.
[1336] These plantations are going to go under.
[1337] Well, guess what?
[1338] You can't, you can't just have people work all day for you and not give them any fucking money.
[1339] Yeah, they have to people to make a living.
[1340] And if your business does not make enough money to give someone a living wage to work all week for you, then guess what?
[1341] You can't afford to have an employee.
[1342] So you have to figure out a way to either make more money, you have to figure out a way to get a better business, or operate with less employees.
[1343] Yeah.
[1344] That's it.
[1345] The only thing that they have to do is they have to help subsidize the small mid -sized businesses to compete with like the Walmarts and the best buys and the targets.
[1346] Subsidize how?
[1347] Tax incentives and things like that to the small mid -sized businesses, because to absorb this new salaries right now immediately, the big companies have a lot more of a cushion and a margin to absorb this shit.
[1348] Right.
[1349] Do you what I'm saying?
[1350] Yeah.
[1351] The small midsides, you have to start adjusting.
[1352] the way you're doing business, the prices, things like that.
[1353] You've got to move some pieces around.
[1354] Listen, I can fix all this shit real quick.
[1355] Legalized weed.
[1356] Yeah.
[1357] Legalized weed worldwide.
[1358] Everybody would just sell weed.
[1359] You know how many people who are having a job right now would make a lot of money just selling weed?
[1360] They would.
[1361] Yeah.
[1362] Go to Colorado right now.
[1363] You know, real estate in Colorado's up like 19%.
[1364] But you know what's going to happen when they sell weed?
[1365] It's not going to be like your neighbor.
[1366] a guy downstairs selling it's going to be big companies and then it's going to be these kids no i'm all for legalizing so i want to legalize they already are these people are buying up the rights in certain states to be the distributors and things like that's that's that those are state laws you can't have those state laws those buying up the rights laws that's what they were trying to pass in ohio right jamie and everybody rightfully said no to it because this is going to be a monopoly situation they're just be it's legal go go crazy yes go sell it sell it like a half -baked you know but what's going on and Colorado is it's changing the economy.
[1367] Colorado, first of all, they made more money from taxes this year for the first time ever than they did from alcohol with weed.
[1368] More money from weed than with alcohol, which is just fucking bananas.
[1369] And they charged 39 % the 39 % taxes on weed.
[1370] And everybody's like, who cares?
[1371] Who cares?
[1372] Sell it.
[1373] It's still cheaper than alcohol.
[1374] And we'll pay it.
[1375] And it's better.
[1376] Exactly.
[1377] So, like, something like that could change.
[1378] And also, look, man, you can't.
[1379] infantilize this entire country like that.
[1380] You can't tell people what they can and can't do.
[1381] You just can't do it.
[1382] And it's a gigantic part.
[1383] Because we're going to do it anyway.
[1384] I mean, all these restrictions on behavior and what you can and can't do are a gigantic part of the problem with the fiber of our economy and the fiber of our culture.
[1385] We've got all these weird restrictions that are in place that are archaic and don't make any sense.
[1386] And when you accept one thing that doesn't make any sense, well then it leaves room for a lot of other weird shenanigans.
[1387] Like Ted Cruz wanted to lock people up for dildos.
[1388] You know about all that shit?
[1389] No. Oh, this dumb motherfucker is really close to being president.
[1390] Ted Cruz was trying to pass a law that would put you in jail for having dildos.
[1391] Pull this up, Jamie, because this is just one of the most hilarious things about this dumbass that people are trying to force down the American public's face because the Republican candidates are all a joke other than Donald Trump.
[1392] No one could get past that guy, and he's a joke.
[1393] No one can get past that guy.
[1394] So the Republicans are panicking.
[1395] They don't know what to do.
[1396] So they put this fucking Ted Cruz dummy in, not knowing there's a million different things that are wrong with him.
[1397] The time Ted Cruz defended a ban on dildos, his legal team argued that there was no right to stimulate one's genitals.
[1398] Scroll up, please.
[1399] In one chapter of his campaign book, A Time for Truth, Senator Ted Cruz proudly chronicles his day as a Texas Solicitor General, a post that he held from 2003 to 2008, bolstering his conservative cred, the Republican president -candidate notes that during his stint as a state's chief lawyer in front of the Supreme Court and federal state appellate courts, he defended the inclusion of under God in the Pledge of Allegiance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1400] Scroll up to the Dildoth case.
[1401] Battle concerning privacy and free speech, right.
[1402] 2004 companies that owned Austin stores selling sex toys and a retail distributor of such products challenged Texas law outlawing the sale and promotion of supposedly obscene devices.
[1403] and put the thing where he wanted to have how much you should go to jail for it because it was like two years here it is under the law a person who violated the statute could go to jail for up to two years for selling dildos and this dummy supported that this is a guy that wants to be president this is a real women's rights issue for dildos yeah for dudes too don't be sexist no I'm saying no but I'm saying I hope this is one thing that women and men can all come together.
[1404] Dildos?
[1405] So important.
[1406] It's the most hilarious thing because dicks are available for anybody who needs them.
[1407] All you have to do is raise your hand, step outside your house and go, I'm looking for some dick.
[1408] Have a sign on the side of the road looking for dick, and someone will give you dick.
[1409] Someone's going to pull up.
[1410] You know there's people that stop at red lights and they have signs for change?
[1411] Yeah.
[1412] Even that works, okay?
[1413] People will give you what you need.
[1414] But if you have a sign that says I'm looking for dick and reasonably clean, someone's going to fuck you.
[1415] Someone will pull up?
[1416] Yes.
[1417] Any time, any corner.
[1418] But people have the right, the right, they have the right to want a dick without a body attached to it.
[1419] Yes.
[1420] A dick without a relationship or opinions.
[1421] Or even a pulse.
[1422] Anything to say.
[1423] The one of the dick is not even made out of human tissue.
[1424] They want a rubber one.
[1425] Yeah, it's just, just fill this whole up.
[1426] Hard body.
[1427] Get done.
[1428] Let's just get it done.
[1429] But I don't know how I got to that, but our leadership is a joke.
[1430] But it's a joke because you can't expect a person.
[1431] to want anybody that wants to run this entire country has got to be a crazy person you have to be a nut and it's really really shouldn't have one president anyway because the idea is ridiculous that one person's going to be involved in all the decisions for the entire country that's preposterous the funny thing too is people only pay attention like the presidential race when all these other things are going on congressional senate things like it's hard to fucking keep track of though they're all fucking clowns it's impossible it's impossible i don't trust any of them and what's really fucked up is this is like the best spot in the planet Like all the other spots, all the different goofballs all over the world.
[1432] Like, you see what's going on in Brazil?
[1433] Like, Brazil, they're impeaching their fucking president right now.
[1434] The Panama paper shit is crazy.
[1435] Crazy.
[1436] I love it.
[1437] Crazy.
[1438] I'm loving it.
[1439] Tell people about it if they don't know what it is.
[1440] Well, the Panama Papers is.
[1441] Because this is not getting discussed in the news hardly at all.
[1442] It's some, not enough.
[1443] But it's basically people, leaders of countries, like the British Prime Minister's dad.
[1444] and Brazil, the guy Brazil is involved, but there's people, leaders, presidents, prime ministers have been keeping their money in offshore accounts, not paying the taxes that they owe in their country, and keeping this money off the books, and then somebody gave this information from a law firm that does most of these transactions, and it's now being published.
[1445] So you can see where all the money is being hidden.
[1446] Yeah, and influence.
[1447] And it highlights how people are getting influenced to make sure.
[1448] certain decisions and what how much bribery's taking place and how laws only apply to certain people they don't apply to the people making the laws of shit it's shit so the best way to fix this is what give people $30 ,000 yes that's just going to keep people poor that'd be the best way to keep people from competing with you I'll tell you that give them give them 30 grand they're not going to do jack shit with it just sit around kick rocks fucking drink ole do people drink OE anymore?
[1449] Old English?
[1450] Remember those?
[1451] No keytones in them.
[1452] No key tones in old English.
[1453] That stuff will get you fucked up, man. I remember the first time I drank a 40.
[1454] I couldn't believe how drunk you get.
[1455] Yo, are you in town this Thursday?
[1456] Yes.
[1457] We got a premiere.
[1458] You want to come?
[1459] Where's it at?
[1460] When's that?
[1461] Ace Hotel downtown theater.
[1462] What time?
[1463] What time?
[1464] What is it?
[1465] Eight o 'clock?
[1466] Yeah, it's like 7 .30, 8 o 'clock?
[1467] Dan Arroback from the Black Keys.
[1468] He's going to be here at six.
[1469] I was just at Dan's crib last night He's at six He's coming to the premiere Wait wait wait wait no how are you guys doing the show six This motherfucker's supposed to be at the premiere This motherfucker's gonna be late Oh Dan Joe says Don't text while you're on the show This is not good for everybody that's listening We'll talk afterwards I'm not trying to have bad form But the problem is You know this is my favorite podcast Well you're one of my favorite guest Thank you It takes a long time to get from here to downtown Yeah We're in Woodland Hills It'll take you Probably an hour And a half At six Wow Yeah He's coming in at six Yeah If you have to leave Your shit's at seven You'd have to leave You'd have to leave You'd have to say hi And you'd have to go Damn so you took Dan from my I'd have done He probably doesn't know what's going He's a rock and roll star Dude probably doesn't know What he's doing He doesn't He thought he was supposed to be here Yesterday Then he told me He was going to be here today, and I was like, bro, I'm here today.
[1470] Does he do drugs?
[1471] Oh, wait, Thursday.
[1472] No. No, no, it's good.
[1473] How's that possible?
[1474] He smokes weed.
[1475] Okay.
[1476] I don't want it's dry snitch, though.
[1477] I think that's public, right?
[1478] Dry snitch.
[1479] What's dry snitch?
[1480] He brought that up last time here.
[1481] We had to go over this, I think.
[1482] It's like, basically just, like, living that DeAngelo Russell life.
[1483] You know what I mean?
[1484] Like, saying things.
[1485] Who's DeAngel Russell?
[1486] He's the guy that fucking recorded Nick Young talking about other girls.
[1487] Oh, that guy.
[1488] Oh, my God.
[1489] Yeah, that's, he lives the dry, he is.
[1490] America's dry snitch, yeah.
[1491] And do they, has he been ostracized by the rest of the basketball community?
[1492] Yeah, I think the world.
[1493] I think the world.
[1494] He said he didn't mean to let it get out, right?
[1495] Isn't that his words?
[1496] He needs to be on the J .R. You need to fucking grill him about this.
[1497] Not interested.
[1498] I would love to see you grow up.
[1499] I'm not too much negativity, bro.
[1500] I'm not an investigative reporter.
[1501] It's not me, man. I don't care.
[1502] I'm just like, don't hang out with that guy.
[1503] He's terrible.
[1504] He's terrible.
[1505] He's talking off the list.
[1506] He should be.
[1507] be out of the NBA dry snitch well I'm glad people are he doesn't get 30 ,000 in my plan thank you that's so nice I'm glad people are looking at it that way though that they've ostracized him instead of like concentrating only on the guy who is banging other girls you know yes yes yes yes that you're right the priorities are totally definitely solid yeah it's a priorities in that case because regardless of whether or not the guy who did the deed shouldn't have done it or should have done it like whatever your opinions are about cheating that guy's violating a friendship like that guy didn't tell him that because he wanted the world to know yeah he told them that because they're friends i have friends that tell me dark shit all the time what they do when we laugh like pigs and i'll never tell a soul i'll go to my grave with all that knowledge and that's what a friend's supposed to be yeah so any guy would do that's a piece of shit so i'm glad that the the rules and principles of friendship have overtaken the rules and principles of monogamy loyalty yes to homies over to the people you over the people you sleep with yeah but no it was interesting though because that same week it was uh this this girl kalani had supposedly people had assumed she had cheated on her boyfriend who was in the NBA kairi irving right so then this de angelo thing happened but when it was the girl everyone beat her up over cheating or whatever and she actually didn't she didn't even cheat with the de angelo nick young thing everyone was just mad at de angelo which de angelo deserves he's the worst person of that week but then also i was like well if you're going to be mad at kalani you're then you got to be mad at Nick Young or just don't be mad at either one of them because who fucking cares?
[1508] That's the best attitude.
[1509] They're not my friends.
[1510] Also, the girl, I'm assuming, is hot, right?
[1511] She's great.
[1512] I love Kalani.
[1513] Is she hot?
[1514] Yeah, she hot.
[1515] Okay, here's a problem there.
[1516] Guys who can't fuck hot girls are always mad at them.
[1517] Yep, exactly.
[1518] They can't fuck them, they're mad at them.
[1519] Girls who see hot girls wish they could be those hot girls and they're mad at them too.
[1520] Hot girls take more hate than anybody on the planet because the guys who can't fuck them are always going to be upset this, Bitch thinks she's better than me. Boo, blue, blue, blue, blue.
[1521] And then the girl's like, she ain't all that.
[1522] And then the girl's just taking constant negativity.
[1523] Yep.
[1524] That's one of the problems with social media.
[1525] Hot girls get too much heat.
[1526] Too much.
[1527] Way too much.
[1528] Nick Young needs more heat.
[1529] That guy's terrible.
[1530] But then one was great.
[1531] You know, Kobe, so the guy Nick Young asked Kobe to sign his shoes after Kobe's last game.
[1532] Goes up to Kobe with a pair of Adidas.
[1533] Kobe takes his shoes and throws him in the trash.
[1534] Doesn't sign him.
[1535] Whoa.
[1536] I was like, wow, I hated Kobe his whole career, and I love you now.
[1537] He threw him in the trash in front of the dude?
[1538] Just threw him in the trash.
[1539] Whoa.
[1540] Incredible.
[1541] Wow.
[1542] That's some real G shit.
[1543] Just to let you know.
[1544] Yep.
[1545] But didn't Kobe do that shit with Shaq?
[1546] He threw Shaq's shoes in the trash?
[1547] No way.
[1548] Didn't he throw Shaq out of the bus?
[1549] Didn't he throw Shaq out of the bus?
[1550] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1551] Kobe's a little bit of a dry snitch, too.
[1552] Game recognized game.
[1553] That was a game -recognized game situation.
[1554] Dry Snitch is my new favorite word of the month.
[1555] Yeah, it's call people that dry snitch.
[1556] Another good one is a dusty, do you call them a chili pimp?
[1557] What's a chili pimp?
[1558] Chili pimp.
[1559] It's just a broke pimp.
[1560] You ain't got shit.
[1561] Chili?
[1562] Like you eat it chilies?
[1563] No, no, no, you just, you cold outside, you're chili.
[1564] Oh, you don't have a warm fur coat.
[1565] Nothing.
[1566] Nothing.
[1567] You're a chili pimp.
[1568] Dry snitch, chili pimps.
[1569] These are the bottom of the barrel of talk about.
[1570] Chili Pimp sounds cool, though.
[1571] That doesn't seem like, I think that would like to be a chili pimps.
[1572] No, no, no. You don't want to be a chili pimp.
[1573] You don't want to be a chili pimp, Joe.
[1574] But it sounds cool.
[1575] It doesn't sound negative at all.
[1576] That's like you're hopping on one foot and your girls hopping on the other one.
[1577] That's no fine, man. Well, that's not.
[1578] You're cold outside.
[1579] Yeah, I get that.
[1580] But, I mean, it's chilly pimp sounds like, oh, he's just a chili pimp.
[1581] Like, that guy's a good guy.
[1582] Yeah, see, look, the pimp who is shivering because he only has one hoe in his stable.
[1583] This dude in the mall claimed he was pimping.
[1584] His pimpin was big time, but he ain't nothing but a chili pimp.
[1585] That's how to use it.
[1586] Is this the urban dictionary?
[1587] Is that it is?
[1588] What a world we live in here?
[1589] Yep.
[1590] There's an actual dictionary that gives you urban terminology.
[1591] You could also buy the mug.
[1592] You can buy a mug that says chili pim on it?
[1593] Oh, click on that.
[1594] Yeah.
[1595] Let me see what we got here.
[1596] Does it have?
[1597] Oh, wait a minute.
[1598] Oh, wow.
[1599] The mug must have the definition on it.
[1600] Is that what it is?
[1601] Oh, that is so ridiculous.
[1602] Joe, this is going to be a gift from you.
[1603] Oh, my God.
[1604] I'll get you the chili pimp mug.
[1605] I don't want it.
[1606] You don't, no, yeah, you do.
[1607] No. Jamie, I feel like, chili pimp.
[1608] We need him drinking out of it.
[1609] It's some bulletproof coffee out of the chili pimp mug.
[1610] Because they're spelling chili wrong.
[1611] Or what about dry stitching?
[1612] We get you a dry stitching.
[1613] They're spelling chili like the food.
[1614] Yeah, that's fire.
[1615] I like that.
[1616] You like that?
[1617] That's fire.
[1618] Oh, my God.
[1619] Look at who wrote the definition.
[1620] Brooks Badass.
[1621] Yeah.
[1622] Well, this is one person's definition of chili pebble.
[1623] Well, what's a sapiosexual?
[1624] Oh, a sapiosexual?
[1625] Sexual?
[1626] Yeah.
[1627] To fuck anything that's not a monkey?
[1628] That's wild.
[1629] Is that what it is?
[1630] Sapio -sexual.
[1631] One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature.
[1632] What?
[1633] Oh.
[1634] This is the Urban Dictionary.
[1635] I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind.
[1636] I want someone for whom philosophical discussion is foreplay.
[1637] I want someone who sometimes makes me go out due to their wit and evil sense of humor.
[1638] I want someone that can reach out and touch randomly.
[1639] I want someone I can come.
[1640] cuddle with.
[1641] I decide all that means I am sapio -sexual.
[1642] You know what that sounds like?
[1643] That sounds like a really lonely person who needs to get the shit together.
[1644] Like whenever you read like someone's Instagram and it's filled with, I'm looking for this, you know, someone who loves you deeply does not blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1645] And they, like that's a lonely fucker.
[1646] That's true.
[1647] Leave him alone.
[1648] That's true.
[1649] What if mine says, uh, uh, asiatic, single asiatic male seeks ride or die chick.
[1650] Is that perfect.
[1651] I like it.
[1652] Cool.
[1653] Cool.
[1654] But it's funny.
[1655] See, when it's funny, it's cool But if you, this is just For all the boys out there listening Okay, and girls too, if you're lesbians If you go to a girl's page And it's all this stuff about love And what true love is And when you find the one you'll know Fucking run Run from that person Run now Because that person is probably never happy And they just sit around posting memes about what true love is And they're gonna make you go to brunch Those people like brunch They like mimosas Those mimosa drinking cunts.
[1656] I hate brunch.
[1657] Eggs Ben and Dick can suck my dick.
[1658] How about that?
[1659] Huh?
[1660] No, that's right.
[1661] I want to eat chili out of a mung.
[1662] That's what I want to do.
[1663] They go to brunch.
[1664] I like a girl that never wakes up early enough for brunch.
[1665] Like, shit, I miss the call again.
[1666] Yeah.
[1667] You're also an asshole if you got to pay someone to make eggs.
[1668] Like, just fucking have eggs.
[1669] If you want eggs on the weekend, just fucking make eggs.
[1670] You can't make eggs.
[1671] It's so fucking easy.
[1672] You feel like going somewhere, though.
[1673] See, I'll eat dim sum.
[1674] I'll wake up at like two.
[1675] and go eat dim sum.
[1676] Oh, you're racist.
[1677] You're racist.
[1678] I see what's going on.
[1679] No, but I don't want to fucking roll dumplings.
[1680] I'll pay somebody to do that.
[1681] Let me ask you this, because this is an important...
[1682] Or even, you know, like, fucking, I'll eat, I'll eat Mexican food on the more...
[1683] More racism.
[1684] More racism.
[1685] This is what I want to talk to you about, because this is a big subject that's been going on now.
[1686] This term that didn't exist until recently.
[1687] Chili Pipp.
[1688] Cultural appropriation.
[1689] Yes.
[1690] Cultural appropriation.
[1691] That Rick Bayless guy, who's a very famous Mexican chef.
[1692] That guy is taking shit from all these social justice warrior dipshits because he makes Mexican food and he's not Mexican.
[1693] He's a white guy from Oklahoma.
[1694] And there was this whole article about whether or not this guy who is one of the best Mexican cooking chefs.
[1695] You think he's one of the best?
[1696] His food is not flames from.
[1697] I don't think it's good.
[1698] Well, he's widely recognized as a highly respected.
[1699] Well, here, this is what makes people upset.
[1700] This is what makes people upset.
[1701] You're a guy like you're one of those guys that's deep, deep, deep in the world.
[1702] Whereas, like, if you came to me and said, oh, my God, this guy, I don't want to say anybody's name.
[1703] But this guy is hilarious.
[1704] I'd be like, that guy's dog shit.
[1705] He's got writers.
[1706] You know what I mean?
[1707] Yeah.
[1708] Yeah.
[1709] So he's a guy that, like, look, his food's not bad, but it's not great.
[1710] It's definitely not the best Mexican food in America, but he wins tons of awards.
[1711] Is it because he's white?
[1712] I don't think it's because it's complicated, right?
[1713] Because he's white isn't wrong, but it's the Kwan.
[1714] You remember, like, in Jerry McGuire, they're like, the Kwan.
[1715] The thing with a lot of these cheval.
[1716] that win these awards, the food and wine, best new chef, Michelin, fucking James Beard, it's a lot of the times because they can speak English, they can communicate with the writers, and the writers can write a story about them.
[1717] They're not winning because it's the best food.
[1718] They're winning because there's a story to write and a story to tell.
[1719] And Rick Bayless, being a white guy from Oklahoma, cooking maybe slightly above average Mexican food is a story.
[1720] Slightly above average?
[1721] Have you been a border grill?
[1722] It's not fucking good.
[1723] wait a minute border grill though you have a bunch of other people cooking it like what about when he's cooking it wait let me check his restaurant name rick bayliss i remember eating i just don't want to be wrong fucking he's a guy that's got tera grill frontara grill that's frontara grill yeah where's that at i don't have to look and he's in the airports now you got all the airport restaurants but you know what's weird man like if you're a stand -up comedian okay and you open up a comedy club and some whack -ass comedian front tarragil yes if you're stand -up comedian and you open up a comedy club and some whack -ass comedian comes and performs at your comedy club.
[1724] No one says, hey, Joey Diaz's comedy club.
[1725] I went there the other day, and this guy went up and performed.
[1726] This guy sucks, so Joey Diaz must be a bad comedian.
[1727] Like, if you were going to judge Rick Bayliss, you would have to judge him by his own cooking.
[1728] Have you ever eaten his own cooking?
[1729] Yeah.
[1730] You have?
[1731] Yeah.
[1732] Frontera Grill.
[1733] But were you there when he cooked it?
[1734] Oh, no, I didn't meet him.
[1735] But he wasn't there.
[1736] No. But here's the thing.
[1737] Well, hold on.
[1738] Was he there?
[1739] Was he there?
[1740] on the work like it it doesn't matter if he's there not it's your restaurant that's your name on it if somebody comes in a bad house and has a bad meal that's on me i think we're split in harris because this is a restaurant what you're saying his restaurant's no good that i understand but have you ever eaten his cooking i mean i feel like if you're in the restaurant that's his cooking no no no no no is he cooked have you eaten what he cooked i have not sat in front of him and eaten when he's cooking there so what the fuck it's his restaurant if somebody makes a chef right You know what?
[1741] I caught a bad review.
[1742] I was known for catching this bad review at Shaoyah.
[1743] I had a restaurant.
[1744] Sam Sifton came in.
[1745] I was sitting in the dining room.
[1746] I was not cooking.
[1747] And he did not have a great meal.
[1748] And you know what?
[1749] I took it on the face and I owned it.
[1750] And the thing is Rick Bailey, he doesn't make bad food.
[1751] It's just, it's not, for all the accolades he has, it's not the best.
[1752] But also, there's a bit of a thing with food that the literati, the intelligentsia, the blogs, the magazines, they're always electing people that they can tell a story about, speak English, have this she -she dining room.
[1753] They're not, it's not about the food.
[1754] They always talk about the food, but it's not.
[1755] And I think that people of ethnic cultures from the, you know, the background of Mexican food and things that people get upset when there's somebody else that didn't live the life, didn't grow up with it, isn't the best at it representing it.
[1756] You know, like if it's going to be somebody from outside, he better be the fucking best.
[1757] Otherwise, get somebody who lived this life and knows all the history and identity and culture attached to this food and let them speak for their own food.
[1758] Okay, I think part of the problem of this conversation is you want to talk about the restaurant this guy runs.
[1759] I want to talk about him as a chef.
[1760] And I'm saying you haven't had his food as a chef.
[1761] And what I've read is that he makes excellent Mexican food and he really is a student of the culture and is enamored by Mexican culture and Mexican traditions and he's essentially a scholar of Mexican food.
[1762] I don't think he's done anything wrong.
[1763] I want to put that on the right.
[1764] But you've never had his food, right?
[1765] I went to his restaurant.
[1766] But you never had the food.
[1767] But you've never had it from him.
[1768] No, Joe.
[1769] No. But doesn't that mean something?
[1770] But you're saying it like it's not a big of deal.
[1771] It's not because in the restaurant industry, the thing is if you walk in, once you walk in the door, that's that man's food.
[1772] Oh, man. Fuck all that.
[1773] That's that man's food.
[1774] I agree with him.
[1775] I mean, it's his recipe.
[1776] He's putting his whole thing he created on the line and.
[1777] Right.
[1778] But he's not cooking it.
[1779] I just feel like, you know, if you're leaving it to someone else to do it, I mean, you might have had the bat.
[1780] It's like if you're an architect and, you know, you're a builder of a house and someone comes along and does a shitty job building your creation, are you responsible?
[1781] Well, if you were supposed to oversee every single aspect of the construction.
[1782] I'll even get beyond him because I don't think he's done anything wrong.
[1783] And this is the one thing in this discussion that I feel is unfair to some of these chefs, especially the white chefs is it's not their fault that journalists and people want to give them more.
[1784] Somebody wants to give him word.
[1785] I don't expect him to throw it in the fucking ground, you know.
[1786] The problem, though, is the media and the people giving these awards and the ones selecting, saying, this is the best chef, this is the best Mexican food.
[1787] It's really obnoxious to the people of that culture that are like, dude, that's not really representing who we are.
[1788] But now this guy's representing our food in America, and he's the one you go to for information.
[1789] He's a fan of the culture.
[1790] Let me just be honest with you.
[1791] No one who goes to restaurants knows about awards.
[1792] Yeah, they do.
[1793] It's so rare that anyone ever discusses awards.
[1794] But even the platform, they give him the platform to speak for Mexican food in America.
[1795] You know, he's a guy, people go to, on top chef, they always bring him in, you know?
[1796] You've given him the platform and you've given him the megaphone to speak for a culture.
[1797] That's definitely fair, but I think as far as, like, awards, not, you know anybody that wins?
[1798] I don't know what the fucking awards are for food.
[1799] I just know when someone's supposed to be a famous chef.
[1800] But that's the thing.
[1801] He's been elevated as the famous chef.
[1802] When you have the Aztec Harachi restaurant in Highland Park that's fucking fire.
[1803] Where's that?
[1804] Where's that?
[1805] Hold on.
[1806] Say it again.
[1807] Aztec.
[1808] It's the Aztec Harachi restaurant in the Highland Park.
[1809] What is it?
[1810] They sell Harachis.
[1811] They're awesome.
[1812] What's a Harachi?
[1813] They're like a, it's like a, man, it's, I have to pull it before it.
[1814] It's hard to explain.
[1815] It's like a corn.
[1816] It's almost like an open -faced, I would explain it as an open -faced Arapa.
[1817] What the fuck's in a rapeo?
[1818] It's a corn, masa.
[1819] This is not my specialty.
[1820] You know what I'm saying?
[1821] If this is Chinese, it's tamale.
[1822] No, it's corn meal.
[1823] You kind of have to see it to.
[1824] We blow up a Harachi, H -U -R -A -C -H -E.
[1825] But, um, yeah.
[1826] See?
[1827] Okay.
[1828] And that.
[1829] That's what Aztec and Highland Park does really well.
[1830] How the fuck do you even eat that thing?
[1831] It's like flap bread, bro.
[1832] Treat it like flat bread.
[1833] You pick it up?
[1834] Yeah.
[1835] Yeah.
[1836] So it's hard at the bottom?
[1837] You cut it.
[1838] You cut it and eat it.
[1839] Cornmeal on the bottom.
[1840] It's incredible.
[1841] You got to have one of these things.
[1842] I believe you.
[1843] And then also Connie Seafood in Englewood is one of the best Mexican restaurants you'll ever eat at.
[1844] So there's some excellent Mexican restaurants.
[1845] But my point being is like does this guy, so you think it's deserved it, that he's getting shit because not because he's the best, because he's getting all these accolades, not because he's the best, but because it's easy to write a story about him because he's a white guy from Oklahoma.
[1846] Yes.
[1847] And he's very articulate.
[1848] it comes to this and the people that select the gatekeepers and the the people who speak for culture they're picking a guy that they can communicate with easily makes their job easy and can tell a story that's like easily disseminated amongst the masses and i don't think it's rick balas's fault i don't think rick balas has done anything wrong like in this context ever it's the media selecting him as you are now the spokesperson for mexican food in america and it's like this motherfucker.
[1849] Like if you're Mexican, you'd be tight.
[1850] Right.
[1851] You'd be mad at that.
[1852] Yeah.
[1853] Well, so who should be?
[1854] I actually on the show, right?
[1855] So when we went to China, I was craving American food.
[1856] I was in China for 17 days and I was like, you know what?
[1857] I miss fucking hamburgers and a salad and nachos.
[1858] And we went to a place called Deli Burger.
[1859] It was the most popular American restaurant for expats in Hunan China.
[1860] And we went.
[1861] This place had like Pulp Fiction posters, Big Lebowski.
[1862] It was interesting.
[1863] They had like a Phillips, like fucking French.
[1864] dip logo thing in there they collected all these American artifacts they bought on Amazon we ate their hamburger and it tasted like Chinese food it was hilarious it was a delicious hamburger but it wasn't a hamburger it tasted like they had a Philly cheese steak and my buddy was like he's he's from Van Nuys he ate it and he was like listen I have so many friends that are Mexican or Asian growing up in L .A. that get mad when white people or people not of the culture make their food and they're like this isn't representing us this isn't what they said this is not Mapo dofu this is not a soup dumpling this is some chef's creation and he goes I never understood why they got mad until I ate this Philly cheese steak because this is not a Philly cheese steak this is like stir fried beef in bread and they should call it the Hunan Hogi because it tastes good but it is not a Philly cheese steak and I love Philly cheese steaks and I love hamburgers and it's like when you see something that you love being called something else and being represented a different way, it's upsetting because that's your identity.
[1865] But Rick Bayliss, in his defense, does follow traditional Mexican cooking methods and makes food that tastes like Mexican food.
[1866] Yes, yes, yes.
[1867] But the thing is, is that he's a fan and he's a degree removed and it's like, if you're going to go to a source, why not just go to the source?
[1868] For many cultures, you know, like Andy Ricker is a really good friend of mine.
[1869] But when people talk about Thai food in America, they go to him and he's a white guy from Portland to Andy's credit and he is one of my best friends and I love him for this he puts the names of the Thai people that taught him things on his menu as much as he can he pushes the credit and he pushes people towards the Thai people he learned from so they can get it from the source but these journalists are fucking lazy they don't care they don't go talk to those people it's harder because it's easier to call a guy that speaks English and communicate with you but journalists they can write one shitty restaurant review and just take you down They have that power.
[1870] And that power is really intoxicating, isn't it?
[1871] Yeah.
[1872] Have you ever dealt with, like, dushy journalist that you felt like were kind of out to get you?
[1873] Yeah, there's a few people that I've done interviews with in the first five minutes I could tell they're out to get me. But then once they can tell I'm pretty genuine and honest and straightforward, they're like, all right, I'll level with this guy.
[1874] I'll talk to them.
[1875] So, no, I don't, I would not say that there were people that were out.
[1876] There's a couple, but I can't even remember them because I don't care.
[1877] Right.
[1878] Right.
[1879] Well, it's getting, it's harder and harder to do that these days, too, because of the internet.
[1880] Yeah.
[1881] You know, if someone writes a shitty review, it's so easy to out that person and describe what exact it was going on behind the scenes and who that person really is.
[1882] And I respond on IG, Twitter, YouTube.
[1883] People have a problem.
[1884] They want to ask me something.
[1885] I'll answer it.
[1886] So I'm kind of, it's hard to do the hip piece thing on me because it's like, my information's all out there.
[1887] Right.
[1888] People know they can talk to me. I give you the answer.
[1889] Right, right, right.
[1890] You know, that makes sense.
[1891] what do you think is the future when it comes to I think like Yelp reviews have kind of taken away a lot of esteem from journalists reviewing restaurants because a lot of people when they want to find out about a restaurant they'll go to a Yelp review you know they'll say oh well look at this four and a half stars on Yelp let me read a couple reviews and you read a couple reviews and you go see what their other reviews are at other restaurants you find out whether or not they're accurate or that's disturbing when you find someone who's a shill when you definitely can tell that someone was like hired by that restaurant To write some bullshit piece.
[1892] They only have one review and it's of that restaurant.
[1893] It's super obvious.
[1894] Yeah, that's just annoying, man, but I feel people are figuring it all out.
[1895] Like, at the end of the day, the cream rises to the top and you fucking figure it out.
[1896] Right.
[1897] You know, that's why a lot of the stuff you were saying is true is like hard work pays off, you know, fucking the people who deserve it to get it.
[1898] You know, that's right.
[1899] Fucking do it.
[1900] Fuck that 30 grand a year.
[1901] Can't give people money.
[1902] Yeah.
[1903] I love like we started this conversation.
[1904] I love to hate.
[1905] I love to hate.
[1906] because it helps me get better.
[1907] I like hearing the criticism.
[1908] I like to work on my game.
[1909] I like to work on myself.
[1910] But at the end of the day, I don't hold on to it anymore because your destiny is in your hands.
[1911] Whatever you want, you may have to work harder than somebody else, but if you work hard, you can do it.
[1912] You can get there.
[1913] I genuinely believe that.
[1914] What do you like doing better?
[1915] Do you like working as a chef and cooking and owning a restaurant, or do you like doing these TV shows and all this craziness you do?
[1916] My favorite thing is writing.
[1917] I love writing because I think writing it forces me to be the most honest with myself I get to work on myself and get closer to figuring out what life is about like the meaning of life shit and not to be corny but I wake up and I think about it and when I write every morning I get closer and I'm pulling back layers and I love that but cooking basketball when I'm playing or I'm cooking it teaches me things but the place I go to figure it out is writing so I love writing how often you write?
[1918] Every morning I wake up every morning I just do it may not be that much but I'll write something to myself I'll write it down, write ideas I have tons of Google Docs always open Really?
[1919] Yeah Like what kind of writing?
[1920] Screenplays, books Ideas I just I'm always writing I always have a couple projects I'm writing Like I have a fiction book I'm writing right now Really?
[1921] Yeah About what?
[1922] I don't want to you know It's a the last book I wrote Was a romance and it was a nonfiction about my life but the one thing Yeah I have this book coming out May 31st called Double Cup Love and it's about I think you might have met my fiance the first time I came on the show I think she came with me first time anyway Maybe yeah but yeah you know no I wrote about it it was about my journey back to China with my brothers so I wrote that book but I think you know nonfiction it's hard to keep putting yourself out there in the most honest way So I started writing fiction because I want to write about my life, but I want to, like, kind of ground it in other characters and things like that and explore it and work through the ideas.
[1923] So it's been interesting.
[1924] I've been doing that.
[1925] I'm trying to, like, write fiction.
[1926] Wow.
[1927] That's interesting.
[1928] Yeah.
[1929] And you've been doing this for how long?
[1930] The last six months I've been doing fiction, but I've been writing my whole life ever since, like, ninth grade.
[1931] I was in writing.
[1932] Really?
[1933] Yeah.
[1934] Wow.
[1935] So you're a pretty diverse guy, man. That's one of the things I like about you.
[1936] You've always got a bunch of irons in the fire.
[1937] Thanks, man. I wrote a screenplay about a suicidal basketball player, like a kid, teenage kid, going through a lot of shit.
[1938] So I wrote about some of the things.
[1939] I remember me and my friends going through teenagers, put it into a basketball player from Queens.
[1940] So I wrote that screenplay.
[1941] I'm always writing, like picking up pieces from my life and creating characters.
[1942] What do you use to write?
[1943] What program do you use?
[1944] Final draft.
[1945] But I'm an idiot, dude.
[1946] I turned it.
[1947] into my homie that works at MGM I sent him a screenplay in Microsoft Word and he's like this shit is fire but you have to put this in fucking final draft you're a clown so Ken is it not it's not that easy to convert No you have to actually like write the whole fucking thing out You gotta do it again Yeah I really just rewrote the whole thing It was funny but but you could have two windows open At the same time just copy and paste back and forth So it's not that brutal Not too brutal yeah Yeah I wrote some stuff in final draft Final draft's tricky but once you get used to the shortcuts and how to use the commands.
[1948] Yeah.
[1949] You know, but have you, for writing ideas, have you ever used write room?
[1950] Do you know what that is?
[1951] No, what's that?
[1952] It's pretty dope.
[1953] It's a program where you, it blocks out everything in your screen, except for the writing.
[1954] You can't go into your browsers, you can't, you don't get any notifications, you don't do shit.
[1955] It just shows you only the writing and gives you a look like, look out of that like that.
[1956] That's good.
[1957] That's what your screen looks like.
[1958] It's just a black screen with green ink.
[1959] And that's all you get.
[1960] See, that would...
[1961] The green ink would drive me crazy, but what I do, man...
[1962] I feel like I'm in the Terminator.
[1963] I get in the zone.
[1964] I'm really good about getting in the zone.
[1965] I play one song.
[1966] I'll play one song, and I'll loop it, and I'll listen to the same song for, like, 12 hours.
[1967] Just over and over and over.
[1968] Any...
[1969] Like, it'll just be a song that day.
[1970] Like, I've had, like, a random jazz song, or it'll be like Smith & Wesson or Lana Del Rey or Camp Lo, and I'll just play that song looped for hours.
[1971] and hours and hours and it gets in a trance because you stop listening to the song it's just noise right right right right right and it's just yeah I've done that before yeah yeah I've done that on airplanes in particular I like I like to write on airplanes for some strange reason you get focused also you're positive it's like the altitude thing altitude helps makes you positive there's like studies you do that it's like you get euphoria in the air when you're that high up it's because there's no air up there brain's falling asleep something It's something, some shit about altitude gives you euphoria.
[1972] There's another great program called Scrivener.
[1973] You ever tried that?
[1974] You know what that is?
[1975] It's a program that allows you to have like a virtual chalk, cork board, and it has all these little index cards, and you move around the cork board.
[1976] So I'll show you here.
[1977] I've got it open up here.
[1978] And when you, you could take some of your ideas, and you could write them on these little cork board things, and then as you, I'll show you, when it loads up.
[1979] Oh, there, Jamie's got it.
[1980] Yeah, see, like that.
[1981] So it gives you this option to do these little...
[1982] So I got it like here.
[1983] And you put these little notes, like these little tiny little fake index cards, and you can move these suckers around on this virtual...
[1984] It's called Scrivener.
[1985] So you write a lot of screenplays, huh?
[1986] No. Oh, no, I don't.
[1987] I used to write a bunch of different stuff, but now primarily what I do is I write essays, and out of those essays, I take stand -up ideas.
[1988] I used to write a lot of.
[1989] lot of blog entries but I found out that a lot of those blog entries would eventually become stand -up and it was always like I was giving people a preview with a stand -up yeah I'm like better to write them for myself and then just steal from them also I'm way into I used to do a blog too I love blogging but I'm at a point now where I feel people are such exhibitionist you do something you just immediately put it I want to see what people think read my shit I'm like you know what man unless I made a samurai sword I don't want you to see it because I don't want to waste your time I want you to see the most fire shit I made and I've worked hard on it It's worth your time That's a good attitude Sometimes though I like reading people's blogs Sometimes someone will write a blog And it'll change your day You know just to change the frequency The way you think And just for whatever reason Their thought just makes it into your mind And bounces around in there And it changes some things Yeah I don't think it's bad to write blogs I just think everybody's doing it And for me personally I'm like You know what I'd like to be in the lab And just only put something out I put out a lot of shit about my life in the last few years So I'm kind of making sure I really want to share these things now Right, yeah That's a thing about sharing You can't unshare You can't unshare Yeah And it's it's an interesting psychological thing This constantly giving yourself up to the internet Well so there's a lot of people that live inside their phone Yeah They live inside their laptop and their phone They live in it And their interaction with the world Comes directly through that That's their filter That's their condom for, you know, intimacy with the world.
[1990] Yeah.
[1991] It's very strange.
[1992] Yeah, we're going to learn a lot about ourselves constantly.
[1993] And then, I mean, we're always learning about ourselves.
[1994] But I think this Internet thing, it's people are starting to see, wow, I put a lot of my shit out there.
[1995] Yeah.
[1996] Like, I'm kind of naked out there.
[1997] And then, is this really who I am?
[1998] Is this some fucking alter ego?
[1999] So I'm interested to see how this starts to affect psychology and identity.
[2000] Well, it's definitely affecting young kids.
[2001] I mean, young kids today are so much more exposed.
[2002] we were when we were kids it's not even close if you're going to high school today i mean everything is on instagram everything is on facebook anything that happens it's even remotely interesting in school gets put out there yeah i mean this this is the world we live in today it's very different when i was going to school nobody knew shit yeah you heard a rumor about some girl across town that jerk some dude off and you're like whoa whoa hot let me go jerk off and think about that but nobody you know nobody like put it out there in that way where the rest of the world could look at it and the rest of the world can see virtually anything that you put online today it's just a strange thing because when you're young you also don't understand the consequences no when you're talking shit or saying something or posting something you really have no idea what what that's going to do to people we look at these things it's like oh you got 10 ,000 followers 20 ,000 100 ,000 million right I don't think it registers like 10 ,000 people is a lot of fucking people well all you need is college campus all you need is need is one.
[2003] And that one to get to someone who has 10 ,000.
[2004] And that 10 ,000, one of those 10 ,000, someone in that group has 20 ,000.
[2005] And that person knows someone who's got a million.
[2006] And in three or four steps, all of a sudden, a million people have seen that.
[2007] And then if it's funny or it's crazy or it's interesting, like here's another cultural appropriation story.
[2008] There's this kid who was taking shit from this girl because he's a white guy with dreadlocks.
[2009] And I don't know if you this but there was this black girl and there's this college in northern california and uh she was giving this little tiny white dude a hard time she was just bullying him man it was gross and she was telling them you know cut your hair you have any say to a friend you have any scissors i'm gonna cut your hair and he's like why can i wear this she goes because you're stealing from my culture which is ignorant on her part she doesn't even know any better because the greeks had dreadlocks the vikings had dreadlocks dreadlocks what happens when you have dirty hair when you have dirty hair and it knots up in these loops.
[2010] Well, anyway, that video, someone was filming her bullying, he's a little tiny dude, and this video of this black girl bullying this tiny little white guy got fucking millions and millions of hits within a day.
[2011] Because people recognized it and they were disgusted by it.
[2012] And then people are also tired of all these self -appointed gatekeepers, self -appointed people that can tell people one of the beautiful things about culture is that culture can be shared and that people Ken, like me, I grew up learning Taekwondo and teaching classes in Korean because I grew up.
[2013] That's what I spent my life doing.
[2014] And so that culture became a part of my culture.
[2015] It's not like I was stealing it or culturally appropriated it.
[2016] I was doing it on it and trying to do it justice.
[2017] But people have decided it's another new way for someone to stand above them and take the moral high ground and try to control people's behavior.
[2018] Yeah, I would say this, race is a social construct.
[2019] when your only basis for an argument is your race versus somebody else's race, you got a fucking shitty argument.
[2020] Do you know what I mean?
[2021] When it becomes something about intention and we're talking about intentions, and we're talking about like, are you trying to take a culture, are you trying to support it?
[2022] Are you a fan of this culture?
[2023] Are you giving back to this culture?
[2024] Those are productive conversations.
[2025] Like the one we had about Rick Bayliss, look, dude, I'm not out here to try to slam dude's food.
[2026] Like I know a lot of people love his food.
[2027] So I'm not saying, oh, I know this shit.
[2028] I know Mexican food.
[2029] I'm a fucking Chinese guy.
[2030] Do you know what I mean?
[2031] Like my opinion about Mexican food doesn't matter, shouldn't matter, you know.
[2032] But my opinion about this appropriation, co -optation stuff is I wish people didn't have to have a gaykeeper or a tour guide or somebody culturally similar for them to try this food or go to this neighborhood.
[2033] Right.
[2034] I would love if people didn't have to have a shi -she -dine.
[2035] room with like American style service or a white face or great article to try this Mexican food.
[2036] Like I wish they would just go to the neighborhood and go to the source.
[2037] And then there's no problem with Rick Bayless's food if we're all informed about it.
[2038] Right.
[2039] It's just tough when he is the point of entry.
[2040] Well, cultural appropriation to me is really when you're pretending you're a part of a culture.
[2041] Like if a dude pretends he's Native American and starts wearing feathers in his hair and shit like that and like that's a nutty person.
[2042] That's real.
[2043] That's legit.
[2044] Yeah.
[2045] Well, it's also real cultural appropriation if you're wearing something that's supposed to be sacred.
[2046] Like there's certain articles of clothing that in some cultures are considered sacred and you're not supposed to be just walking around on them.
[2047] Like, you know, what are those things called?
[2048] Is it a bindi?
[2049] What are they with Indian people, Hindu people wearing their forehead?
[2050] You know, I mean, that was like girls were wearing those things.
[2051] But I think those are supposed to mean something in certain cultures.
[2052] And like, and I get it.
[2053] It kind of looks cool.
[2054] You want to wear it because it looks cool.
[2055] I get that.
[2056] Yeah.
[2057] But things get sketchy when you're pretending to be a different.
[2058] culture or you're lying about where you're from or you're lying that's in my eyes more cultural appropriation or you're taking it to give yourself an identity that is not yours yeah see all that is though it's just dishonesty it's like not a white dude wearing dreadlocks you know he's not pretending to not be white or like that rachel dolazel person that was the NCAA NDACP person in Spokane washington who turned out to actually be white yeah that was the most insane thing it was awesome and then the funny thing is she she actually like her intentions were like yeah well she really does love black culture and black people and she was doing a great job apparently or running the nbacp up there she was she was insane right she was totally insane but then i was like but when i listened to her intentions i'm like i don't think you're a bad person you're just really confused and this is like i don't know how you got to this place i think some black dude dicked her into delirium.
[2059] That's probably what happened.
[2060] He just fucked her so good.
[2061] She was just running around with Tweetybirds flying around her head.
[2062] She had no idea what she was doing while she was doing it.
[2063] That's just my thought.
[2064] She was a tough one.
[2065] Well, there's crazy people out there.
[2066] And there's a broad spectrum of crazy activity.
[2067] You know, some of it that's logical and some of it that's not.
[2068] Some of it is a little tiny white lies and some of it that's just pretending to be a different race, you know?
[2069] Yeah, man. That's strange.
[2070] And in that strange shit, is like what we were talking about before.
[2071] We can all learn.
[2072] Like anybody that tells like little white lies maybe, they'll watch Rachel Dollazelle or someone else who got busted in some gigantic cataclysmic lie and go, oh, that's why you shouldn't lie.
[2073] Oh, that's why honesty and integrity are very important to people because we communicate through noises that we make with our face that's supposed to level out the intent of your mind.
[2074] What people also don't realize is a lot of the times, they think that we're friends.
[2075] with them for the peripheral shit but I think most people like good people that you actually want to be your friends they're not your friend because you have dreadlocks they're not your friend because you're aping or you're doing this shit they're your friend because they fucking like you and you don't have to pretend you don't got to pretend you don't got to fucking fake just be who you are unless who you are sucks and then you should probably pretend you should work on no then you can work on it no just pretend to be black the move is orange spray tan and dreadlocks and no Yeah.
[2076] Well, honesty is always better.
[2077] And then if people don't like you, we'll figure out why they don't like you and improve upon whatever aspect of your life that needs improving.
[2078] Don't pretend.
[2079] It's like, here's a perfect example of something that just never works.
[2080] Name dropping.
[2081] Name dropping is always gross and never works.
[2082] But yet, dummies still try name dropping.
[2083] There's a lot of people that still think, you know, we were over hanging out with Tom.
[2084] I told you I was hanging out with Dan last time.
[2085] Tom Cruise.
[2086] You said Dan first.
[2087] Oh, Dan, I already Yeah, but that's different I brought him up first Because I was saying that he was going to be here When I couldn't go to your shit Well, you brought up Shane Smith too But we're friends too We're all friends Yeah, we're all buddies That's different You can't name drop someone Who we're both friends with That's true Yeah, that's different That's true But to other people listening Oh, you know Shane Smith from Vice Must be so cool The worst is when people name drop And they use only one name And we're supposed to know who it is Yeah, we were over Eddie's house Who's Eddie?
[2088] Eddie Murphy What?
[2089] You were just going to say Eddie And I'm supposed to know Yeah Or it's somebody famous And they want to drop the name And they'll say the real name And you're like shut the fuck up dude Really?
[2090] Like the real name Instead of like a rapper name?
[2091] Like it'll be a rapper or a DJ And they'll use their real Yeah I was with you know Like I'm friends with A track And people Oh I was at a lawns I'm like A track fam Just whatever Like I also know It's real name Whatever you want to do Man drop one of them You know drop both of them Yeah Yeah, what is name dropping?
[2092] How does that, why does that, why do people still try to do that?
[2093] I don't know.
[2094] It's like a magic trick that just everybody knows.
[2095] It's just terrible.
[2096] It's terrible.
[2097] It's terrible.
[2098] It doesn't work.
[2099] It doesn't work.
[2100] It's like you play in three -card Monty and you only got one card.
[2101] Like, listen, bitch, it's the same fucking card.
[2102] You can't do it.
[2103] You can't play that game.
[2104] That's super funny shit, right?
[2105] Yeah, well, it's just weird behaviors, man. It's like we were talking about before.
[2106] We learn from each other.
[2107] We learn from really great stuff.
[2108] and we learn from shit too we learn from dumb shit I learned yeah it's a fucking wise man learn more from fools thing yes I'm a student of fools that's why I'm in the YouTube comments man learning from these fools get in there dude get in there with anonymous 69 205 up your ass whatever their name is dumb ass university well there's definitely I mean I'm joking around a lot about YouTube comments there's actually some people that get involved I mean I go to science pages and you look at the there's some interesting YouTube comments where people debate the actual ramifications of certain like I'm fascinated by this planet nine things they're trying to observe now because this is something I've been studying for a long time that they've been thinking it was very little evidence of it up until recently but that there was another planet outside the Kuiper Belt somewhere outside of Pluto it's one of the reasons why they declassified Pluto as a planet but now they're almost positive that there's a planet out there they said I think that the They said within 99 % certainty That there's a gigantic planet Somewhere around four to five times the size of the earth That is out way, way, way past Jupiter And so I was going to a lot of these YouTube videos That were describing it And then reading the comments, the comments were fascinating So that's a totally different sort of world You know, people are debating like the ramifications And then every now and then One of the Zacharias Hitchin people would jump in there Do you know who Zechariah Sitchin is?
[2109] No. Zachariah Sitchin was a guy who actually, ironically enough, predicted this in the 70s.
[2110] But he called it the 12th planet because that's when they thought Pluto was still a planet, and then they thought the moon was a planet.
[2111] Like this is all based on the Sumerian text.
[2112] This is all getting real convoluted now.
[2113] But Zachariah Sitchin, he is a biblical scholar.
[2114] He's dead now.
[2115] But he wrote all these books about this culture from another planet called the Anunaki.
[2116] and this is transcribing the ancient Sumerian text.
[2117] The Sumerians were the oldest.
[2118] There he is.
[2119] See that thing that he's holding up in front of him?
[2120] That is a piece of Sumerian art that depicts these...
[2121] That looks like some fucking transformer shit.
[2122] Well, it does, right?
[2123] Well, what's interesting is you see that star, see the star, the sun with all the planets?
[2124] That is our solar system.
[2125] It's not just our solar system.
[2126] That is all the planets and all the right sizes, which is kind of fucking crazy.
[2127] Wow.
[2128] Yeah, and this was 6 ,000 years ago when a lot of people didn't even think that the world, they thought the world was flat, right?
[2129] But it also depicted this orbit, this, what they believe is this is one of the things that the Sumerian text described, is this elliptical orbit of this planet called Nibiru.
[2130] And this planet is the outside edge of our solar system.
[2131] It comes between Mars and Jupiter.
[2132] In their, in this Zechreis -Hitchin translation, I think it was every 3 ,600 something year.
[2133] and that this is where the Anunaki came from.
[2134] And then what they did is they came down here.
[2135] They studied some lower hominids.
[2136] They introduced their DNA into these lower hominids and made human beings.
[2137] And so he had predicted this planet being outside of our solar system for a long time.
[2138] It's different.
[2139] And it's there.
[2140] Yeah, it is there.
[2141] Do we know what's on this planet?
[2142] Well, the orbit is different.
[2143] The size of the orbit is different compared to what he described.
[2144] No, we don't even have a picture of it.
[2145] We definitely don't know what it looks like.
[2146] But the Anonaki, as described by Zechariah Sitchin, is the same thing as in the biblical term of the Elohim.
[2147] Like, there's also different descriptions of these giants that came from somewhere else.
[2148] Like those, I think the description of Ananaki, what it means is those from heaven to earth came.
[2149] And the idea is that there's advanced beings came down here and genetically engineered human beings.
[2150] It's widely discredited by other scholars of ancient Babylonian and Sumerian culture, but fun as shit to pretend and read and wonder, well, what if he's right, man?
[2151] But see, when you do look at some of the stuff, though, you go, okay, well, how did they know about the solar system?
[2152] How did they know about all those planets?
[2153] Not only that, they had the caduceus, you know, the caduceus, the symbol for medicine.
[2154] It's also the double helix of DNA, and that's what he believes it represents.
[2155] He believes that that caduceus symbol that they had represents DNA and that that's what the what the ancient Sumerian people were trying to describe when they carved these things into clay tablets.
[2156] They were trying to as best they could make some sort of a rational logical depiction of what they are being told by these these ancient people.
[2157] Damn So we might have already figured it out once And then we're figuring it out again Or not Or there's just a giant Or they just have decorations that look like DNA There's the double helix See you look at the double helix of DNA And then you look at the caduceus Where this intertwined You see the top one with the two eagles If I was six thousand years old man And I was gonna design some shit with snakes Six thousand years ago Yeah I mean it would kind of look like that Well that but it does look like a double helix of DNA.
[2158] I mean, it's very, very similar.
[2159] But it also looks like a guy was just like trying to decorate with two snakes doing the tango.
[2160] But why does it represent medicine?
[2161] And why does it still represent medicine today?
[2162] That caduceus, that symbol still represents medicine today.
[2163] True.
[2164] That's all...
[2165] That one I'm having trouble explaining.
[2166] There's some weird shit.
[2167] There's also some weird shit in terms of some of the imagery that they had of, the solar system one is one of the most telling, because it's really bizarre that without a telescope, they were able to draw a detailed image of the solar system.
[2168] Like, how the fuck did they do that?
[2169] How did they know that there was that many planets out there?
[2170] How were they able to differentiate between stars and planets?
[2171] How did they know the right number of planets?
[2172] Not only that, they also had a detailed depiction of the creation of the moon.
[2173] They have two, you know, scientists and astronomers, they have Earth 1 and Earth 2, meaning that Earth was a certain size and a certain shape in the beginning, and then it was hit by another planet.
[2174] That's also in the ancient Sumerian depiction of how the universe was created, or how the solar system was created.
[2175] There's a planet called Marduk and Tiamat, and Tiamat collided with Marduk or something like that.
[2176] I don't forget exactly what the...
[2177] But essentially, it's Earth 1 and Earth 2.
[2178] It's the same model that actual astrologers, astronomers use today when they're describing the Earth.
[2179] But he thinks these people from the other planet came here and created humans.
[2180] He does.
[2181] He thinks...
[2182] Well, he's dead.
[2183] He did.
[2184] He believed that that's what the ancient...
[2185] Sumerian text was trying to describe.
[2186] But there's a whole website called sitchin is wrong .com, and sitchin is wrong .com is from other scholars who were tired of listening to all this, what they felt was nonsense, and they, you know, they sort of laid out what they think is incorrect about his translations.
[2187] But at the end of the day, put the translations aside, and you look at a 6 ,000 -year -old depiction of the solar system.
[2188] It's like, what the fuck is that?
[2189] Not only that, there's these also depictions of these enormous people with these, little monkey people sitting in their lap.
[2190] And this was what he believed was describing the Anonaki's genetic alterations of monkeys, of taking these lower hominids introducing their superior advanced DNA into these monkeys and creating something that's very different.
[2191] Do do do do do.
[2192] I know we would do it.
[2193] I'll tell you that.
[2194] For fuck sure.
[2195] Right?
[2196] If we found another planet, there was a bunch of dumb monkeys on.
[2197] We did a detailed audit of the planet and found.
[2198] on no higher animals, nothing that had a computer.
[2199] We would drop our seeds.
[2200] Fuck, yeah.
[2201] I mean, we're probably already looking for those places to just...
[2202] Yeah, for sure.
[2203] At the very least, someone would fuck one of those things.
[2204] Like Avatar, right?
[2205] That was, like, one of the most realistic things about Avatar, that that dude wanted to fuck one of those blue people.
[2206] I would be scared to put my dick in a blue person.
[2207] Yeah, you never know what's going on there.
[2208] Yeah, I don't know, man. That's fucking...
[2209] That shit probably burns through condoms.
[2210] Especially if they're big.
[2211] Blue people.
[2212] They're so much bigger than us.
[2213] Yeah.
[2214] And like, you know, especially when you look at the mating habits of things that we know on earth.
[2215] What is this?
[2216] The skeletons they found?
[2217] A 36 foot tall.
[2218] What are you going to?
[2219] I'm not going to talk about a 36 -foot -tall blue person.
[2220] Well, if you do, you're going to need some help.
[2221] You're not going to do it alone.
[2222] 36 foot tall.
[2223] That shit is so not real.
[2224] Well, it's just, it's fun.
[2225] Most of it is fun.
[2226] But if you look at that image that you had pulled up before, Jamie, there's an image that you had pulled up before.
[2227] image of one of those Anunaki having a person, having a little monkey -like person sitting in their lap.
[2228] It's not on this page.
[2229] It's before when you had it, uh, look at some of those other images.
[2230] There's, uh, these ones where these guys, these enormous looking characters have these little tiny monkey people with thumbs on their feet.
[2231] And they're sitting on this guy's lap.
[2232] They have thumbs on their feet.
[2233] Yeah, in the drawing.
[2234] Yeah, they're smaller and they have thumbs on their lap.
[2235] And according to the text, this guy described, the text is very confusing too because it's something called cuneiform and cuneiform it's like have you ever been in an old building that has like those old school nails do you know what those old school nails looks like like in the turn of the century they were like a flat top but it was almost like a wedge and that's what nails looked like oh that's how they that was their writing that's not it jamie but that's that's one of them that's similar though but this is egyptian you're looking at something that's Egyptian um but the onanaki one uh you had had it from If you go back to that window that you had before, go back to that window that you had before that had the depiction of the solar system.
[2236] Clicked around all on that one, okay.
[2237] Yeah, because when you would went, whatever search that you use for that, there was one of them that had one of those homeboys had one of them sitting on his lap.
[2238] Right up there, right up there at the top.
[2239] See, right there, bam.
[2240] See that?
[2241] Oh, like look at that.
[2242] With the thumb foot.
[2243] Yeah.
[2244] It's, there's a few of these that have little weird that people think are depictions of things.
[2245] things with tails.
[2246] It's very strange stuff, man. It's very strange.
[2247] At the very least, they had an advanced knowledge.
[2248] That guy looks like a telotubby, the one he's holding up.
[2249] It kind of looks like a telotubby.
[2250] Well, it doesn't look like a monkey in that picture, but in some of them, they actually look like they have tails.
[2251] He got the fuck boy not haircut, too.
[2252] There's all sorts of weird stuff involved in it.
[2253] Their knowledge of the solar system was one of the most disturbing things, because you're talking about 6 ,000 years ago.
[2254] Like, how did they know about all those planets?
[2255] how do they know that they knew the right orbit you know they knew that jupiter was like far larger than mars they had mars smaller than earth they had like all the orbits correct it was really strange stuff yeah it's it it's too good to be a coincidence but then i'm like i don't know if i believe the whole shebang yeah you know almost always the whole shabang's wrong but it would be awesome if somebody just showed up on this planet like optimist prime one day was like hey i created you guys We've been over here I've been wondering where you guys were Would you think that that would be fun though It would be awesome Isn't it better to be at the top of the food chain Than to be waiting for our galactic overlords To tell us how much we suck It would just be it would be just awesome If somebody showed up like This is what life's about This is what you're supposed to do Eddie your fucking ideas are terrible Please fucking do this It would be devastating to the self -esteem Of people living on Earth I'll tell you that Because they would realize We would be like very Lord of the Flies asked like we were a bunch of kids left alone to our own devices and then when the adults showed up they're like what the fuck are you doing yeah you know and you realize everybody's just acting like a psychopath because they have no one to look over them it would be cool though if if i've been doing it all wrong i kind of want to know what the hell we're supposed to do well we're definitely doing it all wrong but i think we're supposed to figure it out on our own yeah look if we've got ted cruz Donald trump Hillary clinton and bernie sanders there are only hopes to be the commander in chief for the greatest army of the world has ever known for fuck sure we're doing it wrong we're 100 % doing it wrong this is these are not the great scholars and the great intellectuals that we need to help run this world there's no one amongst them that has like a brilliant philosophy even when you're looking at you're looking at burney and hillary and bernie as much as i love him and as much as i love some of his ideas you see that guy and and hillary and they're bickering back and forth during these debates that's so unbecoming of someone who's supposed to be the president.
[2256] The leader.
[2257] Yeah.
[2258] Yeah, especially a dude who's in his 60s and some lady who, you know, she covers everything except the very top of her neck.
[2259] I mean, it's bizarre.
[2260] It's bizarre.
[2261] Like, you're supposed to be further along in this crazy journey than us.
[2262] If you want to be the president, you should be so far ahead that you have some lessons that you can impart upon the rest of us.
[2263] You have some ideas about how we can improve our policies.
[2264] You have some ideas on what laws that we can establish that would probably better to protect us from greed and from evil corporations and from people that are raping the world of all its natural resources all those ideas well the thing is the really smart people do they they have other ways to control and fucking rule the planet you know like i don't think the president is actually the most powerful person you're going eliminate on me right now bro i think so do you believe in the illuminati not illuminati but i just think that i mean if for for some of these people like would i like Michael, like Bloomberg, like Bloomberg, why would Bloomberg run?
[2265] Bloomberg can already fucking call shots from where he's at.
[2266] He has more money than fucking anybody.
[2267] Well, maybe he feels like the system is broken and he's in a potential, he's in a situation to give his life meaning and maybe enhance the lives of other people by helping.
[2268] I don't know, because I don't know him.
[2269] I'm not even familiar with him, but I'm just playing devil's advocate.
[2270] Yeah.
[2271] Devil's advocate would say that that, I mean, if you have all that money and you have all that freedom, why wouldn't you try to make the world a little bit of a better place?
[2272] Yeah, I agree.
[2273] I think that they can do it in a different way.
[2274] I mean, look, the Koch brothers, I mean, they're using their means to mold the world the way they see it.
[2275] I think the people who really have power that are, like, looking at the president, is like, that guy's a puppet, you know?
[2276] Well, it's definitely been shown to be a puppet more than once.
[2277] More than one different administration has been shown to be completely at the influence of the people that got him in the office in the first place.
[2278] Yeah.
[2279] It's all disappointing, you know?
[2280] Yeah.
[2281] And that would all be wiped out if the Ananaki showed up in a gigantic gold dish.
[2282] disc came out levitating telling us how stupid we are We need the Ananaki to come fucking But we're going to be that someday That's my thoughts Captain Sabahoe Save these Save these homes Well yeah They would totally be Captain Save a Ho The rest of the other aliens We're like bitch what are you doing Get the fuck off Earth Are you going to Earth This planet of heroin addicts Have you not watched TV Have you not gone on Earth And look at the YouTube comments They're fucking savages Get out of there man They're gonna eat you And fuck you And not necessarily in that order They're going to come on your tits, bro Dude, run!
[2283] They're going to come on your grandma's tits.
[2284] Get out.
[2285] Get out of that planet.
[2286] If someone could be the first person of fucking Ananaki, you don't think that would be a contest.
[2287] That would be a radio contest.
[2288] I feel like if it was between humans and Ananakis, it's not a human fucking Ananaki.
[2289] It would be the Ananaki fucking the human.
[2290] You say that, but what if it's a really smart, clever, crafty person and an Anunaki that's been getting $30 ,000 a year and really doesn't have any motivation and they're weak.
[2291] I think even the shittiest Adonaki is going to fuck a human through a wall.
[2292] You say that.
[2293] Through that brick wall.
[2294] You say that, but take one of the dumbest people of today and put them in a room with one of the smartest people from ancient Rome and who would be running shit.
[2295] Smartest dude from ancient Rome.
[2296] Yeah.
[2297] Right?
[2298] Yeah.
[2299] Well, don't you think that would be the case as far as like advanced intelligence?
[2300] Like if you get a really dumb, I mean, unless they figured out a way to eliminate stupidity, which it seems like you're always going to have conflict and resolution that seems like what the universe is supposed to be all about the universe is all about is about problems and solutions for those problems and that's how things advance and that's what the universe of thought is in this world it's always constant conflict and resolution of that conflict and trying to figure out how to never have this conflict again and what's the best way to get out even natural disasters and all this thing there are opportunities to innovate there are opportunities to figure out of well okay we saw what happened in Fukushima, how do we get power and not have this problem and what do we do?
[2301] And then all these minds converge and they try to figure out solutions.
[2302] I think that's just always going to be the case.
[2303] I think that's always going to, that's what causes things to improve is this constant battle.
[2304] If everything was groovy and perfect, nothing would get done.
[2305] Yeah, it seems like there's a struggle.
[2306] Yeah, there's a dilemma that always has to be addressed.
[2307] Which is dope.
[2308] It gives you.
[2309] It is dope.
[2310] I like it.
[2311] Should we end on that?
[2312] Yeah.
[2313] It's fucking good.
[2314] It's dope.
[2315] Yeah, it's good.
[2316] Tell everybody about your show.
[2317] Where can they get it?
[2318] When can they get it?
[2319] And tell everybody about your book.
[2320] April 28, Vicerland.
[2321] Wong's World comes out.
[2322] You're going to get the Jamaica episode.
[2323] It's going to be incredible.
[2324] The book, Double Cup Love, May 31st.
[2325] I went back to China with my brothers.
[2326] Brought a white woman with me. It's a love story.
[2327] It's incredible.
[2328] Eddie Hoong.
[2329] Yes.
[2330] And you could follow Eddie on Twitter.
[2331] It's Mr. Eddie Huang.
[2332] And on Instagram, it's the same, right?
[2333] Same thing.
[2334] Mr. Eddie Wong.
[2335] Thanks for having me. My brother, anytime.
[2336] Best podcast in the world.
[2337] Oh.
[2338] My friend.
[2339] Yes, even on Ananaki Planet.
[2340] I'm sure it's better than any Ananaki podcast.
[2341] I think they might have us beat.
[2342] All right, we'll see you guys on Friday, and I'll see you guys tomorrow night, 420 in Seattle.
[2343] Two shows at the Moore Theater.
[2344] Hala!
[2345] Do you think the JRE is better than the worst on a Rocky podcast?
[2346] We're better than those.