MFM Minisode 183

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] And welcome.

[2] To my favorite murder.

[3] The minisode.

[4] It's so teeny tiny.

[5] Look how cute it is.

[6] Oh my God.

[7] It's just, it's like it goes right on a top of your pencil.

[8] I was trying to make, George, I was trying to make your picture bigger on the Zoom, and instead it looks like I'm trying to start a chat.

[9] I'm still like someone's old aunt.

[10] Oh, it's impossible.

[11] And now I just need to close it before.

[12] Now, press on mute.

[13] Press on mute.

[14] Now, what was that thing, the Grandmaster Flash thing, love Grandmaster Flash?

[15] And it was on Facebook when people would tag pictures, they would put grandma, but they wouldn't see that it actually auto -filled Grandmaster Flash.

[16] So many grandmasters tagged themselves as Grandmaster Flash.

[17] The most amazing thing that's ever happened.

[18] Do you know the one guy who, like, changed his mom's auto -fill?

[19] So anytime she wrote, I love you, it said, like, I shit you.

[20] So love was changed to shit.

[21] And then I kept going, love, shit, shit, shit, over and over.

[22] There's nothing better because I'm right on the precipice of being totally in the mom's camp of just like, I don't know how these machines work.

[23] I'm good.

[24] There's a lot of blind faith involved.

[25] Yeah.

[26] And at this point in our lives, I refuse to learn.

[27] Look, if AIM was good enough for us, kids.

[28] Hey, I'll go back to Angel Fire.

[29] Any fucking day of the week.

[30] Tell me. And I'll go.

[31] Please there.

[32] I want to go first?

[33] Yes.

[34] do.

[35] Okay.

[36] Okay, but I did make this way too big.

[37] And now, get away both of you.

[38] Here we go.

[39] I'm so excited about this.

[40] A hometown dump story.

[41] I got one of those too.

[42] I got a few of them.

[43] I've never been more excited about it.

[44] So exciting.

[45] Hey, MFM fam.

[46] I live in NYC, but I've been staying with my parents in Wisconsin since March, waiting to see if I have a job when my restaurant reopens.

[47] I went with my dad to drop off some stuff at the dump when he can.

[48] casually said, did you hear about the man they found last summer who lived in a bunker behind here for three years?

[49] To which I replied, tell me everything.

[50] I just love the idea of someone doing that to their dad.

[51] Tell me everything.

[52] Girl, open your mouth.

[53] Spill it.

[54] In 2014, a man from Stevens Point, Wisconsin, which is very strange because my friend Bradford is from Stevens Point, Wisconsin, which isn't, it's not a big town.

[55] It's very northern Wisconsin.

[56] Wow.

[57] 2014, a man from Stevens Point, Wisconsin, named Jeremiah Button, was arrested for sexual assault of a child and child pornography.

[58] Realizing he faced decades in prison, he decided it was time to move.

[59] While out on bail, he biked 30 miles north to a rustic wooded area close to Marathon County's landfill.

[60] He dug out a bunker, lining the walls with tarps and cardboard, and brought in food and supplies one backpack load at a time.

[61] In 2016, right before his court date, Button left.

[62] his car wallet and a note saying he was moving to Florida for the next three years button hid in that hole in the ground getting all of his necessities from the landfill nearby can you smell it would be I mean and the food like what are you eating like it's never it's a it's all pine cones and peanut butter you're just like a bird you're a bird boy scout project is what you are friend you can just eat bird seed off a pine cone for all I care okay uh He dug a well in a wet area of the woods, and he had a fire pit with a tin can chimney for warmth.

[63] Button even attached an antenna to a tree and used a system of eight solar panels and numerous car batteries to power a TV lights and fans.

[64] Holy shit.

[65] Yeah, this is insanity.

[66] Oh, wait, we can't leave this out.

[67] He planted marijuana in the woods harvesting up to a pound a year.

[68] What the fuck.

[69] Jesus.

[70] If he was not a fucking pedophile, I would.

[71] be in awe of this person.

[72] But I hate him.

[73] He, it's like, yeah, if you only had put your energy toward good, you could have been like the greatest camping dude in the world, but instead you're just a coward.

[74] But all this came to an end when a hiker came upon the well -concealed door of the bunker and curiously went inside to find button.

[75] Could you imagine?

[76] No, don't open the door in the woods.

[77] Don't open a door in the fucking woods.

[78] If you see a door and it's been well -concealed.

[79] get the fuck away from the door Don't open.

[80] There's a reason.

[81] That is not a murdering out right fucking there, I'll tell you what.

[82] And there's not a cute bear in a, like, a ballet tutu inside.

[83] It's a well -concealed door.

[84] It's a well -concealed pedophile.

[85] Not a fucking dancing bear.

[86] That's pretty much like one of two choices you have of what's in behind a well -concealed door.

[87] It's either that or the what's in from the Princess Bride, the machine of Oh, of something pain.

[88] The song.

[89] God damn it.

[90] It's like the apocalypse machine.

[91] Yeah.

[92] It's been too long.

[93] Anyhow.

[94] Don't say who cares, Stephen.

[95] We can't.

[96] There's nothing I care more about than the movie The Princess Spide.

[97] Me too.

[98] It's the greatest thing of all time.

[99] It's the greatest.

[100] Those scenes with Peter Falk and Fred Savage are so perfectly executed family film, a child being actually a very realistic child.

[101] for the 80s especially.

[102] Like kind of a dick.

[103] Touch braddy.

[104] Braddy at first, broken down by the grandfather who's seen it all.

[105] Yeah.

[106] Seems like a goofball, but actually is telling the greatest story anyone's ever heard.

[107] It's one of my favorite movies.

[108] And the turn of when he's like, it's okay, you can tell me the kissing.

[109] Yeah.

[110] The end is the best thing it's ever happened to America.

[111] Oh, grandpa, you come over and read it to me again tomorrow.

[112] Oh, it's the cutest.

[113] Also, I just have to say, met Fred Savage when I worked in episodic.

[114] That's right.

[115] television.

[116] He's everything you want him to be in more.

[117] Thank God.

[118] He's exactly the same looking and sounding.

[119] The first time I heard his voice, I got weird, like, chills he was like, wonder, you?

[120] Like, grew up with you.

[121] Yeah, right?

[122] And he's super nice.

[123] He is, it's like he knows the responsibility on his shoulders of being Fred Savage, and he's delivering just hand over fist.

[124] Love it, and has great taste in comedy.

[125] He's, like, so, like, talented.

[126] Very talented.

[127] And now very, very hilarious.

[128] Of course, and like doing it been great since he was eight years old but then also now can direct like three camera television which is very difficult this took a weird turn okay guys we're still in the middle of this can you please shut up so I can read the rest of the story guys stop it uh it's just the door in the door in the forest is just we need in a minute I had to talk I had to talk my way out of the panic of that okay so the bunk This hiker went inside, curiously, and found Button sleeping on a cot.

[129] So the hiker called 911, and after a standoff with police, Button finally came out and stated, I'm a wanted man, and remarked that it was, quote, nice to talk to human beings.

[130] Last October, Button received 30 years in prison for his crimes, but the judge gave him a bonus 230 days already served for his life on the lamb.

[131] Thank you, ladies, for keeping me saying through this pandemic, my mom is now a big fan.

[132] hi despite all the swearing sorry mom sorry in parentheses says oh well she says the same thing to me i look forward to the day that i can bring her to a live show oh so do we stay sexy and for the love of god's day out of the forest marie absolutely okay this okay all three of mine this week are grandparents stories which we always love always dear karen georgia and co this isn't a murder story but does fall under some of your categories of interest namely badass grandparents survival stories and flash floods in the summer all our favorites you know flash floods are our interest they are now they are now no it's true it's just you know my one more thing to put on the dating profile in the summer of 1976 my grandparents who by the way karen she gave us their names and they live up to the hype irvin and nancy Irvin Not enough Irvin's anymore Wait, is this story about Magic Johnson They had driven up to Estes Park A small mountain town in Colorado To go to their regular square dancing group Of course The way my grandpa used to tell it On the way home A huge thunderstorms developed over the mountains And the night was quote Blacker than the inside of a cow Irvin You old bulls are you?

[133] It was the kind of Western state summer thunderstorms that are so intense that windshield wipers can't move fast enough to see clearly out of the windshield.

[134] Eventually, they had to pull over.

[135] They stayed in the car until a man started banging on their window and yelling at them to get out of their car and head for higher ground.

[136] Oh, shit.

[137] My grandparents ended up having to climb the steep canyon walls in their square dancing outfits in the pitch dark and pouring rain.

[138] I could fucking picture it now.

[139] Shit.

[140] Yeah.

[141] Swinger partner up the hill.

[142] And docee do.

[143] And dozy do.

[144] As they climbed a huge wall of water came down the canyon and swept away cars, houses, and parts of the road.

[145] Eventually, they had found a group of other people who had climbed up the canyon and took shelter in a van.

[146] They spent the night that way, stranded and waiting for the morning to be rescued.

[147] Down on the planes, my 19 -year -old mom and her older brother had no idea what happened, except that their parents were supposed to be.

[148] driving back through the flash flooded canyon and they hadn't arrived home.

[149] They waited out most of the night with their own grandmother until finally getting a call late the next morning that their parents had been rescued by a helicopter and taken to one of the local high schools.

[150] The Big Thompson flood was one of the worst natural disasters in Colorado history.

[151] The storm that caused it dumped 12 inches of rain over the canyon in four hours.

[152] That's a foot.

[153] Huh?

[154] That's a foot.

[155] You're fucking right.

[156] 12 inches?

[157] That's not right.

[158] 12 inches is a foot.

[159] Did she mean 12 feet?

[160] No. I don't know.

[161] That's almost the yearly total of rain.

[162] I don't think they could, I don't think he could rain 12 feet in four hours.

[163] I don't think.

[164] But 12 inches of rain is like up here.

[165] You're like calf.

[166] Well, I bet it's enough.

[167] I'm from California, you guys.

[168] We don't, rain is cute here.

[169] Listen, listen, you can do a flood.

[170] I think of 12 inches of rain.

[171] There's plenty to do a flood.

[172] Well, a flood doctor, please email us and tell us what is a lot of rain.

[173] Yep.

[174] That seems like a ton.

[175] Great.

[176] But they do say that that's almost a yearly total of rain for the area that they got it all in one night.

[177] Oh, shit.

[178] So they weren't able to handle it.

[179] No. On top of that, in the steep canyon, all of the water that fell on the hillsides collected in the big Thompson River, which is why the flood was so swift and devastating.

[180] 143 people died and many homes were destroyed some of the cars were washed down the river were only identifiable by their VIN number the sediment in the water had completely stripped off the paint wow shit my grandparents car was never found in 2006 three years before she died my grandma got to meet the man who saved their lives the guy who banged on the window really butch hutch hutchons of course that's his name he said he had stayed away from the flood memorials because he was afraid to learn that he could have done more.

[181] Oh.

[182] But it's because of him that I got to meet both my grandparents.

[183] SSDGM.

[184] Maya.

[185] Wow.

[186] Butch Hutchins.

[187] Was that the name?

[188] Butch Hutchins and Nancy and Irvin are best friends.

[189] See, you know what?

[190] It's true.

[191] We don't take, like, because flooding doesn't affect us that much, it is hard to imagine.

[192] But like, the idea that cars were like unrecognizable and like, that's, I mean, that's don't make me say that's the power of water you don't need 12 feet so you're the water doctor that's what you're saying it's me ask me AMA water my um do you know my first boyfriend died in a flash flood no yeah that's real sad that's horrible I know well he was we were we weren't together I was you know I was like young at the time when he dated but then we got older as you do and he went off to go to college and he and his best friend just got caught up in a flash flood swept under a fucking semi and oh my god died it's he was such a wonderful person it's really tragic that's horrible mike lewis we met at jewish camp oh no sad oh it's so sad and people die young i know okay okay ready for more about stuff always cool this is new jersey's bermuda triangle underwater ghost town yep there we go hey you You did Lady of the Lake Live show, right?

[193] I believe so.

[194] Is that the...

[195] Is that in one of the Carolina?

[196] Atlanta, maybe?

[197] Oh, maybe.

[198] Elena?

[199] I did like Lillane, but that's not Lady of the Lake.

[200] Right.

[201] It is a haunted lake, though.

[202] I got sent that, and I...

[203] But I thought you did it.

[204] I think I did, but...

[205] I can check.

[206] Okay.

[207] Okay, it says, this title is intriguing enough.

[208] After hearing about a fellow murdererunos underwater ghost town in Minnesota 181, I immediately thought of a similar underwater ghost town near my hometown that is also referred to as New Jersey's Bermuda Triangle.

[209] Round Valley Reservoir was built in the 1960s in the small town of Lebanon, New Jersey.

[210] The state built two dams and flooded the small farming community that once existed at the bottom of the Cushatunk Valley.

[211] This included an old schoolhouse and several homes.

[212] As water poured in, the remains of the town sank more than 150 feet to the bottom of the reservoir to be forever lost.

[213] or so many thought in the 70s the reservoir and surrounding area became a peaceful place for boating, fishing, swimming, hiking, and scuba diving.

[214] There are videos from divers that have gone to the bottom of the reservoir and filmed the old building foundations that still exist below the surface.

[215] As many have enjoyed the waters, boaters began to go missing.

[216] Over the past 50 years, more than two dozen people, that's 24 people, have gone missing and have died while boating and fishing in the reservoir.

[217] Oh, my God.

[218] Yeah.

[219] That's a lot.

[220] I know.

[221] I believe the first disappearance was in the early 70s when two men and their boat went missing.

[222] All of them.

[223] Everything goes down together.

[224] Their bodies were never found again, but their boat hit the shore a few days after.

[225] Four years later, two friends that went fishing were reported missing by their families.

[226] They were last seen sailing on the northern shore of the park when their empty canoe came to shore a few days after they were reported missing.

[227] What?

[228] The oddest story from the reservoir happened in the late 1980s.

[229] Two friends vanished on a fishing trip on March 18, 1989.

[230] After submarine searches of the water, neither of the men were found flashed forward to 1993, so like four years later.

[231] And the body of one of the men was found preserved, still fully dressed with boots on when a fisherman caught the body with his hook.

[232] Although it's believed that most of the deaths were from drowning, locals suspected a wind vortex or bad energy from the former farm town are responsible for the strange deaths pulling boats under the water.

[233] There are still bodies and boats that have yet to be found.

[234] Mystery of the reservoir still remains when a human foot without an owner was found in 2012.

[235] The FBI and the New Jersey State Police have scraped the bottom of the reservoir looking for human remains of the many who have perished there with no results.

[236] Growing up, my friends and I would go to this park all the time and often to do the nefarious often to do the nefarious activities that high schoolers do.

[237] Fun.

[238] Meaning have fun.

[239] Just like hanging upside down like bats and trees and stuff.

[240] Boating, hiking, and camping around the reservoir myself, I was constantly on the lookout for ghost canoes or body parts.

[241] Sadly, nothing that crazy has ever happened to me there.

[242] My sister lived down the hill from the reservoir for a few years and said it became quite annoying when she would hear helicopters hovering over the part.

[243] constantly.

[244] You would think they wouldn't allow boating anymore.

[245] Thank you for being two voices that I listen to.

[246] I'm in the midst of anxiety attacks and I need to calm myself down or, hey, or accompanying me on a long drive.

[247] Despite a pandemic, my partner and I are moving from NYC to Los Angeles and I will need you to go across the country.

[248] Stay out of the forest, but also stay out of the water.

[249] Bree.

[250] That's crazy to me because I feel like people who fish regularly and people who boat are pretty like experienced you know what I mean like they're not just going to like whoa woo woo tip out of their boat like probably you and I would do they're like they know the rules and they know what to do and what not to do and the you know the aka the rules and so that's just creepier you know what I mean it's yes and it's also when you think of like if two fishermen go out in the really early morning something could happen and it's like Just say it's a rogue wave on a lake, which I don't even know if that's possible.

[251] Rogue wave on a lake, boom, they're in the water.

[252] It's over and no one saw it or heard it.

[253] Like that idea, and I won't even get into the reality of the Loch Mess Monster, absolutely coming up and knocking you out of your...

[254] Totally.

[255] I mean, that's what I thought.

[256] Water.

[257] Lake experts, lake doctors, is a rogue wave possible?

[258] Lake exports.

[259] Experts.

[260] Experts.

[261] Jesus, I can't speak today.

[262] All right.

[263] This is another grandpa story, and it starts, hey, sexy ladies, mustache, and pets.

[264] Kind of reductive, but I like it.

[265] I like it.

[266] I recently got hooked on your podcast after my baby sister bought me an MFM logo pin, the proceeds of which go to beam.

[267] My story has to do with the day I found out that my grandfather killed a man. Grandpa was born in 1929 in a tiny town in Kentucky and dropped out of school in seventh grade, Because back then, it was a totally legit thing to do.

[268] From what I know of my grandpa, he was a hands -on learner who could do just about any job you threw at him.

[269] This man taught himself how to repair lawnmowers.

[270] Who even does that these days?

[271] Amen.

[272] Yeah.

[273] He worked hard his whole life and had some amazing stories about being a ranch hand for a bit.

[274] And I will never tire of repeating his, quote, you could get yourself a quarter and buy a Coke and a bag of peanuts and see a movie stories.

[275] Simpler times.

[276] Anyway, in 2009, my grandpa had a sudden decline in health and needed hospice care.

[277] Our family had been at his house for the past several days keeping my grandmother company as my grandpa passed and when my dad suggested we'd go to lunch.

[278] While at lunch, my dad somewhat casually mentioned that my grandpa had accidentally killed his best friend when they were young adults.

[279] Apparently, my grandpa and his friend would run moonshine because of fucking course they did.

[280] It was Kentucky.

[281] And on one such run, my grandpa was driving after drinking some of them.

[282] their product.

[283] He crashed the truck and ended up killing his friend in the accident.

[284] Oh no. I know.

[285] My dad told me that grandpa never drank again and was, of course, heartbroken over his friend's death.

[286] Hours after my dad told me this tale, my grandpa ended his time on this earth.

[287] It was a totally wild experience for me to hear that my sweet grandpa had lived with this guilt and pain for 60 plus years.

[288] I was a sophomore in college when he passed in this family story directly influenced my strong stance on drinking responsibly.

[289] Stay sexy and for the love of God, don't drink and drive.

[290] Oh, wow.

[291] I know.

[292] I thought of like carrying that with you your whole life.

[293] Horrible.

[294] Sad thing.

[295] Because of what, I mean, we used to talk about that all the time that I made so many incredibly irresponsible decisions in the 90s.

[296] And the, I could have very easily killed someone with my car, very easily.

[297] Totally.

[298] So many times.

[299] Or even just gotten a DUI or just like.

[300] ruined your own life yeah oh like you're not i was trying my hardest you're not special you're not going to get away with something like that if you oh chance it it's crazy and sometimes if you do get away with that that you live with that yeah horrible feeling of like Jesus Christ it's so irresponsible totally i'm sorry i said that you're not special everyone you're all special to me it hurt it hurt me deeply Karen you know i'm all about vintage shopping absolutely and you say vintage, you mean when you physically drive to a store and actually purchase something with cash?

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[318] Goodbye.

[319] Okay, well, this is a grandpa one, too.

[320] And we're going back to Wisconsin.

[321] Okay, ready?

[322] Hello, all, human and animal.

[323] This isn't so much a hometown murder, but a connection to a serial killer.

[324] First, a little background.

[325] I grew up in a small town in rural southwest Wisconsin, and my grandpa is a funeral director.

[326] Growing up in a funeral home is probably what made me the murderer I am today.

[327] I swear, it's not really as weird as it sounds.

[328] One day when I was at home for a visit, my mom and I started talking about true crime, as one does.

[329] I asked her if grandpa had ever dealt with any murders in our town.

[330] She paused for a moment and then proceeded to tell me the best story I've heard about my grandpa.

[331] When my grandpa was in mortuary school, he and his classmate were called out to a crime scene to help with some bodies.

[332] That crime scene was none other than Ed Gein's house.

[333] Holy shit.

[334] Right?

[335] My grandpa was there when they arrested Ed Gein.

[336] What he says he remembers most of the house was that the normalness of the scene.

[337] There was a pot boiling on the stove like he was getting ready for lunch, super creepy.

[338] No, that's not the creepy.

[339] Wasn't he boiling my head or something?

[340] I mean, that's, I don't know, he could have all.

[341] It could have been like top ramen in one pot and then his mother's skull and another.

[342] I can't remember.

[343] Now, because my grandpa was in mortuary school, he was there to deal with any dead bodies.

[344] He and his classmate had to collect.

[345] bag all the body parts that were found in Ed Gein's home, including the skin lamp and the nipple belt.

[346] Ew.

[347] To make it worse, they found the body of his last victim.

[348] Yep, that's the one I was thinking of, which is the woman that was in the out in the garage.

[349] To make it worse, they found the body of his last victim, Bernice Warden, but had not found her head.

[350] Again, my grandpa had to help search the whole house for her head.

[351] Eventually, they found it wrapped up in a sailor, a wool sailor coat in a trunk.

[352] My grandpa still has a scrapbook of all the news clippings of Ed Gein's case and arrest.

[353] If you ask him, he'll tell you about it.

[354] Holy shit.

[355] My grandpa is such a sweet, quiet, kind man. Hearing this story about him just makes me love him all that much more.

[356] Anyway, I love you and your podcast.

[357] It helps me through times of depression and makes me feel like I wasn't a weirdo for liking crime.

[358] Thanks for all you do.

[359] A bonus story.

[360] There was once a farmer that came into the funeral home, having died of a supposed heart attack.

[361] When they were preparing the body, my grandpa found that there was actually a bullet in the man's heart.

[362] The police investigated and discovered the hired man that worked on the farm had actually shot the farmer.

[363] I can't remember the motivation, but he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't from my girlfriend.

[364] That was from E .J. Thank you.

[365] Wow.

[366] Unbelievable.

[367] Horrible.

[368] I mean, like, I don't care what business you decided you wanted to go into.

[369] Nobody was like, and this is where I'd like to end up.

[370] totally at gine's house ed gain's a mental meltdown home yeah there's nothing that prepares you no matter how much like how comfortable you are working with dead bodies there's nothing that's going to like mentally prepare you for that probably hopefully yeah because you you're supposed to work with dead bodies some guy on a farm is not supposed to have a house full of dead bodies totally that's that's look i'm going to go out and a limb and say it it was wrong i think that was from buddha who said that it was wrong it was wrong what ed gine did slash Buddha.

[371] Strong stance by Karen Kilgariff.

[372] Dash O'Sho.

[373] That's the old quote.

[374] Okay.

[375] Here's another dumpster...

[376] Pinterest quote.

[377] What?

[378] I said that's my Pinterest quote.

[379] Oh, got it.

[380] Okay.

[381] This one's a grandparent story and a dumpster treasure story.

[382] This is full circle.

[383] Uh -huh.

[384] Hello, friendos.

[385] Thank you.

[386] We sound like a cereal.

[387] I love it.

[388] I just listened to Minnesota 182 where you all asked for dumpster treasure stories, and I had a write in.

[389] My grandfather was the most influential person in my life and was such a steadfast source of advice and support during my challenging high school and college years.

[390] When he died two years ago, after a two -year battle with ALS, I asked my grandmother if I could take his favorite blue cardigan, and she said yes, and then asked if I knew the story behind it.

[391] When her grandfather, my great -grandfather, was dropping off their garbage at the local dump in Wakefield, Michigan, he came across a box.

[392] filled to the brim with old clothes.

[393] He dug through it and found the blue cardigan.

[394] After trying it on, he decided to keep it.

[395] My great -grandmother was appalled that he would take home a, quote, dumpster sweater and insisted that he get rid of it.

[396] However, my incredibly strong -willed Finnish great -grandfather decided to keep it and only wear it when he went to work.

[397] A couple years later, my great -grandmother found the cardigan sitting in his workcase, and she tried to get rid of it again, but he found out and told her that he would give it away instead.

[398] And I could fucking imagine, like, picture this grandfather cardigan, blue cardigan, can't you?

[399] Yep.

[400] Yeah.

[401] Oh, yeah.

[402] We probably have had it in our closets at some point in our lives.

[403] Like the oyster shell button.

[404] Uh -huh.

[405] Four of them.

[406] Maybe there's like a little bottom V. Crocodile or on the lapel.

[407] Sure.

[408] My grandmother had just met my grandfather a few months prior and they had just started dating.

[409] My great -grandfather loved my grandfather and decided to give him the cardigan.

[410] My grandfather came from a very, very poor family and decided to take it because most of his clothes were filled with holes and old.

[411] Fast forward 60 years and that same blue cardigan is now sitting in my closet.

[412] I love that he gave it to somewhere like that the great grandmother would have to see regularly.

[413] It's pretty great.

[414] Also, it's like a gift until you go like, I got that at the dump.

[415] Here, take this gift.

[416] You thought it was a gift.

[417] wonderful gift.

[418] It's crazy to think that my favorite blue cardigan was discovered in the early 1950s at a dump in Wakefield, Michigan, but I'm so glad I have it now.

[419] It makes me feel so much more connected to my grandfather and even my great -grandfather who passed away a few weeks before I was born.

[420] Thank you guys for all you do.

[421] I am going on to school to get my master's in nursing, and I wouldn't be where I am today without you both normalizing getting help for my crippling, anxiety, and depression.

[422] Yay!

[423] Oh, nice.

[424] Y 'all rock.

[425] Stay sexy and socially distance, y 'all.

[426] kindly live.

[427] Amazing story.

[428] I love it.

[429] I miss thrifting so much.

[430] It's very sad.

[431] I miss thrifting in the late 80s, 90s when there was actually true treasure to discover.

[432] Before the, before eBay.

[433] Yeah.

[434] I mean, you had to do it yourself.

[435] Yeah, and all the, like, all the old stuff was there.

[436] Yeah.

[437] And you could really find.

[438] Trazier.

[439] True treasure.

[440] True treasure.

[441] True.

[442] sometimes it smelled sometimes he brought moths home to your look sometimes you were genuinely poor and just needed a shirt 50 cents for a shirt sometimes you weren't being cute no you needed it but you also look cute while you did it but you look cute because you were young and you have no idea um send us any story complimentary at this point yeah you know what's good yeah you know what's compelling right my favorite murder at gmail or you can go on our website my favorite murder .com.

[443] There's a place to send in your hometowns or there's like a forum on the fan cult too where everyone just shares each other's stories.

[444] It's cool.

[445] Stay sexy.

[446] And don't get murdered.

[447] Goodbye.

[448] Elvis, do you want a cookie?