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[14] The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast.
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[16] In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
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[18] That hasn't happened to you guys?
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[22] Let's go to our guest line where we have David Samson, nothing personal with David Samson, and Adnan Verk of MLB Network and Cinephile.
[23] And gentlemen, I want to start with just this question.
[24] Have you guys heard of, what are they called, Big Justice?
[25] AJ and Big Justice.
[26] A .J. and Big Justice.
[27] Yes.
[28] We're excited at that.
[29] Sadly, I'm unaware of AJ and Big Justice, unless that's the new nicknames of Juan Soto and Aaron Judge.
[30] David?
[31] We're excited to have Adnan and David.
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[34] Really excited to have them aboard and Adnan and Samson aboard.
[35] That would be a good nickname for Juan Soto and Aaron Judge.
[36] David.
[37] AJ and Big Justice.
[38] Are you familiar with AJ and Big Justice?
[39] Can we start with it?
[40] I am despond to tell you that in my demographic currently where I sit, I've not heard those names and I feel like this could just be a. tiny little setup.
[41] It's not.
[42] It's real.
[43] Like, they showed the video on the screen for us here in the studio.
[44] I don't know this either.
[45] It's not my demographic either, but apparently it's a big deal.
[46] And David, I want to start there just by asking you, in the modern sports business space, where do these kind of internet celebrity influencers fit in?
[47] Is this something that teams should or do?
[48] utilize as far as bringing them for marketing or is this just a waste of money well i sure as heckfire wouldn't do it on camp day i can tell you that so if you know you know and i would say that we're always looking to be cooler than we are and that's not just running the baseball team that's doing anything you're always trying to be who you're not i think the most successful people in business understand exactly who they are what product they're selling and who they're selling it to And until you know that, you can't really start a business or run a business.
[49] But when you're doing a baseball team trying to entertain, you're trying to entertain old school baseball people and get them to bring their kids and grandkids who may want to see, you know, Haley Welch.
[50] So it's a difficult line to walk.
[51] David's right.
[52] But then there's moments like at the Mets where they have Hock Tua throwing up the first pitch.
[53] You're like, who the hell is Hock Tua.
[54] And then you know who Octua is.
[55] I mean, Cody, I'm just saying the majority of the baseball fans.
[56] I clearly know.
[57] as Roy Wood knew on your show.
[58] But I just sometimes, David's Roy, you think outside the box, and then you wind up with Hocktoa.
[59] Not sure if that's the best look for the Mets.
[60] Well, speaking of thinking outside the box, I over the weekend went to the cinemas, and I saw Alien Romulus, and I was really impressed with this film.
[61] Only an $80 million budget made that back and more in the first weekend.
[62] I think since it places itself on the alien timeline between alien and aliens, and mean, cover your ears because you're going to take issue with this, I think the Alien franchise, those three films, Alien, Alien, Romulus, and Aliens, that is now the cream of the crop when it comes to sci -fi trilogies.
[63] It was, I know you're a Star Wars guy.
[64] I don't mean any disrespect.
[65] I don't mean any disrespect, but I thought this was a Marvel and movie -making, practical effects, practical makeup, practical set design.
[66] I loved it.
[67] It was refreshing to see movies made like this again.
[68] I don't know if either of you had the opportunity to see Alien Romulus, but I'm curious your thoughts on that take, that if it is what?
[69] the reviews say it is and what I'm telling you it is.
[70] Where do you rank this franchise in terms of all -time great trilogies both in sci -fi and just generally?
[71] It's fantastic.
[72] I haven't seen the latest one, Mike, but I'll say this to your point.
[73] When people point it generally sequels are wasteful and unnecessary and redundant, I look at aliens.
[74] Like if you look at the Ridley -Scott James Cameron 1 -2, those are two premier directors who had two excellent sci -file films with Alien and Aliens.
[75] It's the rare time that you could argue the sequel is barely the original.
[76] I haven't seen Alan Romulus.
[77] That sounds like blast me to say it's better than the Star Wars trilogy.
[78] I mean, he's going to fight you.
[79] David Floor is yours.
[80] So as you know, Mike, we've been doing this a long time.
[81] You know the odds of me having seen any of those three movies is very small.
[82] I haven't seen any of them.
[83] I'm too scared.
[84] Wait.
[85] I thought they were horror movies, not sci -fi movies.
[86] You've never seen aliens?
[87] No. So there are - We're talking about the Seguerney, the Seguerney -Weaver movie.
[88] Yeah, which is probably, yeah.
[89] Ripley, Ripley is one of the greatest heroes in the history cinema, certainly one of the strongest women characters.
[90] James Cameron's actually done a really good job with really strong women characters in his films.
[91] Linda Hamilton.
[92] Yeah, but I think that you have to see this.
[93] I mean, these are great filmmakers that we're talking about, Ridley, Scott, James Cameron.
[94] And while there are elements that are jump scares, it's really far beyond that.
[95] These are really masterful achievements in movie making, and you're missing out by not watching any these films.
[96] This is my pushback gentleman to what Mike said beyond me being a big Star Wars fan.
[97] Like you said, this is a great trilogy.
[98] I'm sorry.
[99] They made a shit ton of alien movies.
[100] Alien three that was trash.
[101] Alien three was terrible.
[102] Alien's awful.
[103] Yeah, which is why I gave it that qualifier.
[104] If you're adhering to the timeline that it establishes that the events of this film take place between alien and aliens, then you take David Fincher's and I love David Fincher, who was a misfire.
[105] I know he was kind of brought in late to save that movie.
[106] Alien three terrible film.
[107] I'm not arguing the merits of Alien 3.
[108] It was a really bad movie, but it made me, I revisited the franchise in anticipation for Alien Romulus.
[109] And I dug deep, did you know that Jesus was originally canon in the alien franchise?
[110] That's how they made in canon, huh?
[111] In the original, in the original script of Prometheus, the engineers argued that they sent Jesus and they had to destroy humanity because of what they did to Jesus.
[112] They tested it and it.
[113] Do you mean the actual Jesus?
[114] The actual Jesus was a part of the alien kind of franchise.
[115] Never heard that one.
[116] And the reason why there are aliens in the first place that are just sent to destroy humans is because of what happened to Jesus.
[117] But they took that part of the original script out.
[118] New Rock Stars as a whole, like, I was watching this thing for 35 minutes explaining the whole alien lore.
[119] But I love this franchise.
[120] I revisited these films.
[121] They hold up.
[122] And what I loved about Alien Romulus, though, there have been a bunch of technical advancements, right?
[123] If you watch Alien and Aliens, you wonder, why are all these buttons?
[124] Why is everything analog?
[125] Why is there everything standard deaf?
[126] Surely, if they make a new alien, they'd fix that.
[127] No, they honor the legacy of the original films.
[128] All the technology is that of the original alien world, which I loved.
[129] It's always fascinating, too, to Mike's point, stuff that's taken out.
[130] He mentions the fact Jesus could have been in there.
[131] At one point, Ripley was going to hold up a sign that said John 316.
[132] They took that on as well.
[133] With the rainbow wig?
[134] now we're aging ourself.
[135] So kids don't get that reference.
[136] But what I would say is I highly endorse Alien Romulus.
[137] It's a great achievement in technical movie making, and I think more films, especially in sci -fi, there have been these wonderful stories in lower -budget sci -fi movies, Godzilla, the most recent Godzilla movie that won an Academy Award for the Visual Effects, only famously had a $15 million budget.
[138] There are a lot of filmmakers that realize I can really make a great science fiction movie, and typically that's a genre that leans on visual effects, and has an immense visual effects budget.
[139] These have really stripped it down and gone to practicality, and I think it's really benefited the genre and I hope for more of it.
[140] I think you're bugging.
[141] Okay.
[142] Because people want to see crazy lasers destroying things.
[143] That stuff doesn't stick out.
[144] It's just all like, it's like the Avengers movies.
[145] Why is everything purple?
[146] Like, it's just, why is everything imposed?
[147] Because they want to be able to fix everything afterwards.
[148] They don't want to actually build these sets and realize this didn't come out the way that we wanted it.
[149] Take the change.
[150] Bank on the director.
[151] Practicality, it goes a long way and really makes the entire movie here with Alien Romulus.
[152] That and it's just a really good movie, Suspensal, kind of a throwback to what Alien used to be, which really honors the scares and some of the horror elements that probably David shies away from.
[153] That's probably a little too much on Alien.
[154] I know you're here for a top five.
[155] As our time honored tradition, we begin with Adnan, and we leave David 30 seconds, right?
[156] At the end, that's how we do it.
[157] Excellent.
[158] I nailed it.
[159] David, you go ahead.
[160] You take the ball in love it.
[161] I'll finish.
[162] David, what is your top five?
[163] Explain to the audience what we're doing here.
[164] Well, today is Kobe Bryant's birthday.
[165] And so we wanted to honor Kobe Bryant by doing our top five basketball movies.
[166] And we left it open to you to decide what is the definition of a basketball movie.
[167] And I will start my list with something that you'll be upset with.
[168] But I associate number five, Father of the Bride as one of my best basketball movies.
[169] You know what?
[170] I'll allow it.
[171] I'll allow it.
[172] I'll allow it.
[173] Good job, David.
[174] That's a very strong went out of the gate.
[175] That's excellent.
[176] It's inspired.
[177] I have always dreamt of having a basketball game with my daughter the way that Steve Martin did with Kimberly Williams Paisley.
[178] And it just has never been meant to be.
[179] Number four, Hoop Dreams.
[180] It is not found behind the counter in the dark.
[181] Hoop Dreams is a movie actually about two young basketball players from the inner city following their career.
[182] the assumption that they would make it.
[183] They don't quite make it.
[184] It is a phenomenal documentary.
[185] Maybe the best basketball documentary ever made.
[186] One of the greatest sports documentaries ever.
[187] Not a movie.
[188] I don't feel like documentaries count because this is real life and movies are kind of like telling us.
[189] There are ways to make documentaries cinematic.
[190] When we were kings was a film, I think.
[191] And every sense of the word, even though it documented something, I felt like an actual cinematic experience.
[192] David, do you disagree?
[193] No, I completely agree.
[194] but, I mean, documentaries are movies.
[195] There are a subset of movies.
[196] Horrors are a subset.
[197] They're a genre of movies.
[198] Docs are a genre of film.
[199] Yeah, but there are also ways that you can present a documentary that's a little bit more cinematic than most.
[200] Like, not having someone speak directly to camera as I'm speaking to you right now and essentially break the fourth wall.
[201] Like, there are just narrative -built documentaries that go start to finish without anyone ever speaking directly to camera, and that's more cinematic.
[202] I think it's irresponsible to have a topic.
[203] five basketball list and not have hoop dreams on it.
[204] Adnan, I don't know what your list is, but I can tell you that if it doesn't have hoop dreams, I will be shocked.
[205] That's a good guess.
[206] I love hoop dreams.
[207] I'm going to save my hoop dream comments from my list.
[208] Go ahead.
[209] Number three, white men can't jump.
[210] It made it okay to talk about white men and black man and look at Wesley Snipes.
[211] My favorite Marcus Johnson, who was a Milwaukee buck.
[212] If you remember that movie, if anyone remembers Marcus Johnson, it was a great player.
[213] He was an actor in this movie.
[214] Rosie Perez, who's in my favorite movie of all time called Fearless, but what a job that she did.
[215] And you looked at what Woody Harrelson did with Wesley Snipes.
[216] And you said, I dream of doing that, but it doesn't work in real life.
[217] That's white men can't jump.
[218] Did you ever see the remake?
[219] Don't watch the sequel.
[220] All right.
[221] Do not watch the remake.
[222] It was so bad.
[223] It was the worst I've ever seen.
[224] Number two, it's a movie called Forget Paris.
[225] Oh, great Bill.
[226] This is a forgettable pick.
[227] I mean, this is terrible.
[228] I would legitimately think about kicking him out of the Zoom.
[229] Forget Paris is...
[230] That's a great movie.
[231] Well, deserving of this list.
[232] And one of the greatest romantic comedies ever made, you stop it right now.
[233] You stop it.
[234] Adnan, you're just doing that for clickbait, and that's fine.
[235] But a little thing you may not have known is that in my career, when I wasn't able to grow taller, I wanted to be an NBA referee.
[236] That was my dream when I knew I wouldn't be in the NBA.
[237] And after that movie, I actually thought about going to referee school.
[238] Something I still think about to this day.
[239] Really Crystal's life seemed that appealing to you?
[240] There's something about being an NBA referee that just made me, I wanted to be Earl Strom, I wanted to be Daryl Garrison, I wanted to be, anyway, it's all good.
[241] Number one, this is a runaway number one.
[242] I assume it's number one with Adnan, the greatest basketball movie ever made, Fast Break.
[243] Wow.
[244] Fast Break with Gabe Kaplan.
[245] Welcome back, Cotter.
[246] Bernard King.
[247] Fast break was doing gender issues.
[248] Back when gender issues were not something that you could do.
[249] Fast break is a movie that will, it has drugs, it has sex, it has basketball, it has all the things you could want in a movie.
[250] That's a staggering number one.
[251] That is a tepid reaction from the audience.
[252] David, you were doing so well.
[253] It was a list very personal to you, which I appreciate very.
[254] amusing but fast break at one that's egregious it can't be it can't be that you feel that way because i think that if we weren't on the show you would tell me that fast break is your favorite basketball movie of all time you'd have to say it well listen i appreciate that your list is very personal to you number five and i appreciate that you said basketball movie is a broad term cable guys at number five both you guys went a little nutty with your uh your fifth overall how great is that scene.
[255] Jim Carries the headband the gap of the two.
[256] The suicides.
[257] Add that the suicides as it gets shorter and shorter.
[258] Yeah.
[259] Or were they playing Hey man, nice shot during that scene?
[260] That's right, filter.
[261] Great song.
[262] We know who had a cameo in that in that scene?
[263] Jack Black.
[264] Well, it wasn't a cameo.
[265] He actually had a role, but there was like smaller like Paul Rutt.
[266] Wasn't Paul Rudd?
[267] No, Owen Wilson.
[268] Owen Wilson was a dude that was beat up in the bathroom.
[269] Yeah, there was a lot of Judd -Apital universe characters there.
[270] Cable Guide 5.
[271] Number four, this one's for Cody.
[272] Along came Polly.
[273] Hell yeah.
[274] Make it rain.
[275] Great.
[276] These are, you're doing like a greatest basketball scene, top five right now.
[277] I'm down with it.
[278] Number three, I am going to go with white man can't jump.
[279] And I agree with Samson.
[280] Again, please avoid the reboot remake.
[281] Horrific.
[282] Number two, Amin's going to be offended.
[283] Hoop Dreams.
[284] I'm not offended.
[285] I just think it's unfair.
[286] Arthur A .G. William Gates, inspiring story.
[287] I mean, people had not seen a story like this before, right?
[288] Inner City Life, in Chicago, the bleakness, the sadness, the tragedy, and yet the hope and inspiration, a remarkable film.
[289] There's no question about it.
[290] And number one, surprised it wasn't on David's list, but I'm kind of thrilled neither of us mentioned Hoosiers in our top five list.
[291] Number one, Jesus, Shuddlesworth, he got game.
[292] I was really surprised that Hoosiers didn't end up in this.
[293] Whatever you think of Hoosiers, like, universally, anytime you look at basketball movies or sports movies, Gene Hackman's Hoosiers usually ends up in there.
[294] That's because people are hacks and also racist.
[295] I've got my own top five list, gentlemen.
[296] Some of the movies have been named on your list, but a couple haven't.
[297] Two OLLIs, OLLI number one, above the rim.
[298] Boom.
[299] Big soundtrack.
[300] OLLI number two.
[301] Air, I know it's a commercial.
[302] But it was a good, it was a fun commercial.
[303] Number five, semi -pro.
[304] Boom.
[305] Great one.
[306] Have you read Terry Pluto's loose balls?
[307] It's a book about life in the ABA back then.
[308] it is an excellent depiction of that book.
[309] If you see a possum, try to kill it.
[310] There you go.
[311] Number four, he got game.
[312] Little boys.
[313] Number three, forget Paris.
[314] Love that movie.
[315] I love that movie.
[316] I know you're not going to say anything bad.
[317] That's unbelievable.
[318] Number two, this wasn't on either of you guys list.
[319] Blue chips.
[320] Nolte, great in that movie.
[321] Nolte was great.
[322] Shack.
[323] Pennie Hardaway.
[324] Bobby Knight was actually coached.
[325] And when they told him in this play, they got to give up an alley -up, he refused.
[326] They had to, like, talk, like, no, this is a movie.
[327] We're not actually playing a basketball game.
[328] And number one, the greatest depiction of basketball ever on screen in a fictional vehicle.
[329] Air bud.
[330] White men can't jump.
[331] That's basketball.
[332] White men can't jump on all three lists.
[333] Fantastic.
[334] Where the actual space jam?
[335] Where is space jam?
[336] Thank you, David.
[337] Where the fuck is space jam?
[338] Oh, jeez.
[339] It's a little excessive, Jeremy.
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[355] Go peepat.
[356] This is the Dan Lebetar show with the Stugats.
[357] So we teased this earlier, Jeremy, you have a list of things that happened between when the Phillies.
[358] One 30 games earlier this season.
[359] They were the first team to win 30.
[360] And the White Sox, the last horse, crosses the finish line.
[361] Grady Seismore and the Chicago White Sox.
[362] Yeah, for those who don't know that, that's one of my favorite pieces of trivia now that you could ask anyone who the White Sox manager is.
[363] And if you said Grady Seismore and they didn't know, it would be mind -blowing.
[364] But, yeah, the Phillies were the first team to win 30 games.
[365] They're one of the best teams of baseball.
[366] That was May 14th.
[367] It took until August 16th for the White Sox who were on pace for the worst season ever.
[368] So 94 days, 94 days in between when the Phillies won and the White Sox won their 30th game.
[369] So I tried to compile some things that happened from the time that the Phillies won.
[370] their 30th game until the White So Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese made their WMBA debuts.
[371] Remember that?
[372] That was a while ago.
[373] The Cavaliers season ended.
[374] Damn.
[375] Yeah.
[376] Didn't a lot of NBA seasons end in May?
[377] Well, they played into the playoffs.
[378] So yes, I was just picking a team that made some sense there.
[379] That made it to the second round.
[380] Donald Trump became a convicted felon.
[381] That happened in the time in between.
[382] We lost Bill Walton, Jerry West, and Willie Mays.
[383] And Al Adels the other day, rest in peace.
[384] Will Smith rehabbed his entire image in the Bad Wars Ride or Die press tour.
[385] Did he?
[386] It wasn't even the movie.
[387] It was the press tour.
[388] Absolutely, he did.
[389] Absolutely.
[390] He was doing videos with Kev on stage.
[391] He was doing videos with everyone, like tried mac of cheese.
[392] It was like, it was amazing.
[393] It's so odd for me. Still my word association.
[394] I know.
[395] I'm with it.
[396] Kendrick Lamar played not like us six times and really ended Drake his live stream on Juneteenth.
[397] He didn't end it.
[398] By the way, Drake last month became the most streaming artist again.
[399] He took over the lead.
[400] I'm just saying the numbers don't lie.
[401] There aren't consequences anymore.
[402] Panthers won the Stanley Cup.
[403] Oh, yeah.
[404] I remember that guys.
[405] Someone won the NBA finals, but I don't remember who.
[406] Congrats on that, by the way.
[407] I mean, I know you're a big Panther guy.
[408] That's his team?
[409] Dan went to and returned on a trip to Africa?
[410] He did.
[411] Just like Nas and Belly.
[412] And since now the Rocky, The Rockies were the last team to win 30 games before the White Sox, and that was in early July.
[413] So since the Rockies won 30 games, between then and the White Sox winning, there was an attempted assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
[414] Right.
[415] Joe Biden dropped out of the race.
[416] All of Brat Summer happened.
[417] The entire Summer Olympics happened.
[418] Tim Walls was named Democratic VP nominee.
[419] Also, Skip Bayless, or ended his tenure at box.
[420] Two drawstrings in interview?
[421] Wait, is Brat Summer done?
[422] What is that?
[423] Can somebody explain that to me?
[424] A tier two guy explained that to me?
[425] Brat Summer?
[426] Yeah.
[427] Charlie XEX released an album called Brat.
[428] There's a whole attitude associated with it.
[429] He did a bored about it.
[430] I know, but I was in here.
[431] Just go back and watch it.
[432] No, I can watch the clip.
[433] What's the attitude?
[434] How am I supposed to, like, what's my vibe supposed to be?
[435] You're not a brat.
[436] Are you supposed to meet demure?
[437] I mean, you are very demure.
[438] You're very...
[439] Cutsy?
[440] No, cutesy is not how I would say.
[441] Yeah, you're feeling yourself.
[442] You're at the club.
[443] You're bumping.
[444] Yeah, you say boom.
[445] You're doing bumps?
[446] Yeah.
[447] I mean, yeah, if we're being real.
[448] Bump's in the club.
[449] Yeah, that's what's happening.
[450] So, yeah, Brad Summer, it's the best.
[451] Is it done?
[452] So nobody can explain.
[453] I mean, it's continuing until the summer's over.
[454] But, yeah, it's just party, man. I don't know.
[455] I'm not exactly the best representative here.
[456] I love the idea.
[457] You said it.
[458] You've said it a million times, Brad Summer.
[459] Yeah, because I know what it is, but you got to know what it is, you know what it is.
[460] You know what I mean?
[461] That's why I'm asking you to explain it to me because you know what it is.
[462] Charlie X, X, X, X, couldn't even really truly explain the definition yourself.
[463] You just got to feel it.
[464] Jeremy, I love the idea.
[465] It's like, you know, we're just party.
[466] I'm like, oh, we're going to do that this summer as opposed to what we do every other summer.
[467] It's like when Justin Timberlake sang, I'll bring it sexy back.
[468] Where to go?
[469] No, that was, no, that was, that was legit, though.
[470] No, sexy had one way?
[471] No, it did.
[472] It did, and he brought it back.
[473] That was legit.
[474] Future sex love sounds.
[475] That was a banger album.
[476] It was a great album.
[477] It was a great album.
[478] And it was a great song, but also.
[479] And then sonically, he just stayed there.
[480] It's like, Megan Trayner.
[481] Megan Trayner said, I'm bringing booty back.
[482] I'm like, who the hell are you?
[483] And it's certainly not you.
[484] I have always been here.
[485] I'm on the Today Show covered this.
[486] And there's an article here that says, while the word brat usually invokes feelings of middle school angst, Brat Summer is all about accepting your imperfections while embracing the chaos.
[487] I would say that Brat is not middle school angst because Brad is more like adults talking about little kids as little brats.
[488] They're being braddy.
[489] But Michael Jackson once changed the definition of bad.
[490] So Charlie XX can change the devil.
[491] Charlie X -DX described the Brat album ethos as, quote, me, my flaws, my F -Ups, my ego, all rolled into one.
[492] Shut up.
[493] It's a fun, man. It's a banger of an album, though.
[494] By the way, a baseball talk got us here.
[495] But later today, in our offering, there's going to be some more baseball content.
[496] And I've been in heated discussions with our post -production crew.
[497] They are not able to turn around graphics.
[498] What you're going to hear is a fallacy.
[499] I lost a competition that I genuinely won.
[500] So there's a game that we play where Taylor pulls out a card and the cards are from in this example the year 2004 and you're supposed to say which team that player was playing on in the year 2004.
[501] Technically.
[502] Did this happen again?
[503] Because this happened the last time we played it too where there's two published cards for one player.
[504] Exactly same thing happened to me thrice.
[505] Thrice in the same competition.
[506] Happened to me thrice, twice for points.
[507] And twice, it was happening with trades that happened in the winter.
[508] Yeah.
[509] In the winter.
[510] I don't think there were, were there winter trades or were there trades just pre -deadling?
[511] I'm not going to give it away.
[512] There was a winter trade.
[513] I mean, what's the cutoff for making Tops cards?
[514] I guess we'll have to find that out.
[515] Winter trade.
[516] Either way.
[517] I'm pretty sure the question was, what team are they on in the card that is being presented to you?
[518] Now, I say all of that to cover up the tracks because I do kill Sidney Ponsone.
[519] Oh, yeah, RIP.
[520] He's not dead.
[521] You asked the question.
[522] Yeah, I asked it, but I killed him.
[523] You asked it with a little bit of certainty.
[524] No, I did.
[525] I confused him with Steve Belcher.
[526] I confuse him with Steve Belcher.
[527] I think he hit us with it.
[528] Is he still with us?
[529] No, I think I probably had a little bit more conviction about it.
[530] Stay tuned to find out.
[531] Stay tuned.
[532] But when you listen to this, just know there are three times, thrice, twice for points, thrice that it happened, that I'm pretty bang on the money.
[533] So just warning you now.
[534] Now, everything that you're about to hear is just BS.
[535] On today's episode of the pitch clock, bullshit for Mike Ryan.
[536] It is.
[537] It's BS.
[538] Formal protests.
[539] And they do that in baseball.
[540] So I am issuing a formal protest.
[541] Great.
[542] We have to go like this.
[543] You have to do a P. P. Yeah.
[544] When you do a protest, you stand behind home play and then the party does a big P. I thought that was theatrical.
[545] Is that like the protocol?
[546] Is that the actual protocol?
[547] I think that's how they let them know like in the box that there's the games being paid under protest.
[548] It looks like a big P. Has anything ever come from a protest in any?
[549] No, I think we're still waiting to figure out if that Knicks game is going to have the last play played.
[550] So it would have been really interesting to see in the Ray Allen game, there was an illegal substitution made.
[551] Like, genuinely.
[552] I think I remember this.
[553] Yeah, there was an illegal substitution made with regards to, I believe it was Tim Duncan.
[554] Yeah, Tim Duncan was out on the play and then they subbed him back in.
[555] And the talk was, I think Dan did the reporting on this, that had the heap lost that game and didn't have this iconic.
[556] They would have been in the right to formally protest that.
[557] And there was a chance, if you're following letter of the law, maybe in the interest of sport.
[558] It's ultimately on the commissioner.
[559] The commissioner can decide whatever he wants there.
[560] But letter of the law, the heat would have had every right to formally protest that game.
[561] And there were some people that said they actually would have won that protest.
[562] So, like, it's not unheard of.
[563] It does happen.
[564] It happened in the Olympics, obviously, with Jordan Childs.
[565] They protested.
[566] They got her a medal.
[567] and then they protested again, and they took the medal away, which is really dumb, I think.
[568] It's also happened in the NBA.
[569] I talked about this before earlier this season, where the Heat and the Hawks had a game where Shaquille O 'Neal fouled out, and it turned out he only had five fouls.
[570] So they went back and they replayed, like, the last minute of the game.
[571] I had forgotten about that.
[572] And before they played the next time.
[573] They had another game, so they said, we're going to start this game and play the last, like, 90 seconds of the last game.
[574] Did it change anything?
[575] Yeah, I think the heat ended up winning.
[576] And then they played the next game.
[577] game right afterward and they lost that game or something like that.
[578] So it does happen, it is rare, but I, when Billy says they throw up a big pee, you know what?
[579] I don't know if he's messing with me or not, but I like it.
[580] I think it should happen.
[581] What do you mean?
[582] I think it should happen.
[583] It's quite the brand you've carved out for yourself, Billy.
[584] That you're trying to be helpful and people wait, are you lying?
[585] Because here's the thing.
[586] Here's the thing, Mike.
[587] What other hand gestures We have VAR, which is, oh, look at this big screen here I'm making, right?
[588] Yeah, that's a good one, though.
[589] You think that's a good one?
[590] Yeah, it's become a good one.
[591] I like field goals good.
[592] I don't like NBA review, replay.
[593] Like, oh, they twirl their finger.
[594] Like, guys, we've got to replay it.
[595] Because every play, I love it was like two seconds to the game, ball goes out of bounds.
[596] And someone like Patrick Beverly was like, replay that, replay.
[597] We're like, we're not burning a replay on this.
[598] Oh, here's another good one.
[599] This comes from Ozzie Rules football.
[600] You know how they do their field go good?
[601] it's like finger guns that's a yeah man it's mad cool i don't know if the video team could look that up christ no the video team is done chris has told me informed me in my ear that hey we have a clip of you killing sidney ponson i don't want that little teaser clip i don't want that clip i want the clip of me being right three times a little taste of what's coming up i want the clip of me being correct thrice that's what i want guys hit the ponson clip sidney ponsone oh come on i mean come on rest and peace right Ethan, talk to him.
[602] Wow.
[603] He's not dead?
[604] I said rest in peace, right?
[605] This be $50.
[606] Wait, Sydney Ponson's still alive?
[607] Yeah, he is.
[608] Sydney Ponsone, very bad.
[609] No, yo.
[610] That's fine.
[611] Damn.
[612] 47.
[613] Yeah.
[614] Ah, f***.
[615] Have you Googled Sydney Ponson?
[616] Just that.
[617] I just, I just Googled Sidney Ponsone, and I'll tell you, I would not have gotten the team that he was with in 2004.
[618] Oh, he's from Aruba.
[619] That's where I was going.
[620] that's where you So it's much worse than we thought He's dead, right?
[621] No, you know, he said RIP.
[622] Right?
[623] RIP, right?
[624] But no, right is like, is not doing a whole level of work.
[625] I see what you guys are trying to do.
[626] No, you killed them.
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[648] Don Lebertard.
[649] I went in the margins.
[650] I'm like, I'm like, you're moneyball of sex?
[651] I'm basically Scott Hattabur.
[652] A lot of walks, but I'm on base.
[653] When it comes to sex, I'm Scott Hattberg.
[654] Other dudes, they can be Giambi.
[655] You know your role you play well?
[656] I know my role.
[657] This is the Don Levitar show with the Stugats.
[658] I have 15 examples of protested games in Major League Baseball that were then resumed.
[659] Did they do the baseball up to 2019?
[660] I don't have info on that yet.
[661] I do know that eight of those 15 games, the team that protested, did go on to win.
[662] And most famously, it was the George Brett Pintar game, where the Royals had protested in the top of the ninth.
[663] They were down 4 to 3.
[664] They ended up winning 5 to 4.
[665] The last one, I believe, was in 2014.
[666] It was the Giants and the Cubs, and this was because of a rain delay where the Cubs field crew couldn't get the tarp on in time.
[667] So they ended up finishing the game later.
[668] I am genuinely sorry that live and in the moment, 22 years after the fact, I confused one Orioles pitcher for another in Steve Belcher.
[669] That was my mistake.
[670] But I'm man enough to admit my mistakes.
[671] Taylor, Jeremy, Chris, you can be man enough to admit yours in that I was correct thrice.
[672] I can't be man enough.
[673] I'm tier two.
[674] That's good point.
[675] I love how you use Aruba as the reason.
[676] Oh, Aruba, that's why.
[677] I mean, that's just me to admit.
[678] Listen, I appreciate the banner.
[679] I do want to talk about football real quick, guys.
[680] More football.
[681] Yeah, actual, like, sports.
[682] So last year when the Chiefs won, I think it crossed everybody's mind like, damn, if you're not going to get the Chiefs that year.
[683] I mean, they lost at home to the Raiders.
[684] Their offense was struggling.
[685] They didn't have any wide receiver help.
[686] If you're not going to get the Chiefs last year, are you ever going to get them?
[687] As long as this core is around.
[688] And I thought long and hard, and I thought for a while, yeah, I think that this is a run and they're the weird, lovable dynasty.
[689] but then yesterday I was reminded there was someone that was able to stop them at the height of their powers Joe Burrow Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals went into Arrowhead they beat them now Joe Burrow has a lot of questions to answer about his health for whatever reason it doesn't really stick to him as much when you talk about fragile quarterbacks he's not really invoked all that often I'm not sure why people talk more about Tua if you stack up the injuries Joe Burrow is right there I understand you have the neurological stuff going on and the concussions with 2 -0 where you genuinely think he's one hit away.
[690] Everybody's a -hit away.
[691] But I think that Burrow and the Bengals have proven against more superior offense from Kansas City that they can do it.
[692] And I actually think they will.
[693] I think people are really sleeping on the Cincinnati Bengals, provided, of course, Joe Burrough can say healthy.
[694] I think the thing that people think of is the catastrophic and the severity of the hip injury for Tua.
[695] So I think they associate that with that was a way worse injury because Burroughs had a knee injury where he tore his ACL.
[696] That's pretty commonplace in the NFL.
[697] He has a wrist injury for a quarterback.
[698] I mean, you fall the wrong way.
[699] Something happens.
[700] Like, it's kind of things that are - There's a thumb last year.
[701] Keep in mind, last year, when he went out, Bengals are kind of grooving.
[702] Like, they were - Browning and Dead Boys.
[703] Yeah, they were.
[704] Well, Browning actually played well, but it kind of got the vibes that, oh, the Bengals are going to do this again.
[705] to the Chiefs, and he gets hurt.
[706] I think that in the NFL right now, Patrick Mahomes, you want to talk about tier one guys.
[707] He's in a – the only guy that came close in terms of skill is Aaron Rogers, in terms of what they are able to do throwing the football.
[708] Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback of all time.
[709] Tom Brady was never – when it came to physical attributes, the best in the league at anything.
[710] Well, Tom Brady's greatest quarterback of all time in the NFL.
[711] I just want to make that clear.
[712] There are other forms of football out there where he's not.
[713] Well, I do want to play that video momentarily.
[714] But what I'm saying is, like, Tom Brady found a way to be the greatest ever without ever in any of his areas being physically the best at anything.
[715] It was all intangibles with him.
[716] Joe Burroughs a lot like Tom Brady.
[717] He's the closest comp that I have in that he's not top of the line at anything in the NFL.
[718] But if it's a game, we all know that dude's a gamer.
[719] And he can win it.
[720] He can beat Patrick Mahomes on Patrick Mahomes' best day.
[721] So provided that he stays healthy, that's a team that I trust the most inside that conference.
[722] But their defenses have gone in different directions last couple of years.
[723] In 2022, the Bengals had an elite defense last year.
[724] They took a step back.
[725] The Chiefs defense was one of the best in the league last year.
[726] So I think the question mark for the Bengals is the defense.
[727] Yeah, and the owner spending money.
[728] And they've lost pieces.
[729] I noticed the other day, Tyler Boy, not there anymore.
[730] He's a Titan.
[731] Yeah, he's a titan.
[732] And Higgins is, I believe Higgins got franchise, right?
[733] So this is probably, they have an owner famously, does not like to spend money.
[734] Did spend it on Joe Burrow.
[735] But as long as that dude's on their center and healthy, it's kind of like a Tom Brady thing for me. And this is going back years now with Joe Burrow, dating back to college.
[736] I trust that guy.
[737] He showed you, again, against a more superior team than the eventual Super Bowl champion than we saw him last here with Kansas City.
[738] He goes in there.
[739] He wins big games.
[740] I will say this, though.
[741] Jamar Chase is in a bit of a contract dispute with the owner.
[742] And the owner says, hey, I think Mike Brown is the owner, right?
[743] Yeah, they lost Joe Mixon.
[744] They lost mixing, but they said, I'm not paying somebody before your time is up.
[745] Like, you're going to play out the entirety of this contract, and then we'll talk about a contract negotiation.
[746] Chase still at camp, but kind of in a hold -in, not really doing anything.
[747] We've never seen – think about this for a second, guys.
[748] We've never seen Joe Burrow do it without guys like Chase, Justin Jefferson, T. Higgins, right?
[749] The thing with Brady was, you could throw Wes Welker, who was 5 '8, and he would make him a 1 ,500 -yard receiver.
[750] You could throw Dion Branch out there and he can make him somebody who's a legitimate Y -Receiver 1.
[751] We've never really seen Joe Burrow do it without monster talent across the outside.
[752] That's certainly a great point.
[753] We never saw Brady become prolific until he had those guys.
[754] He became an all -time great and not a game manager the second that he got Randy Moss.
[755] Exactly, but he had him for 14 seconds.
[756] Yeah, but he had Grunk, which is the greatest tight end of all time.
[757] He had his weapon.
[758] The real question is, what is Joe Burrow, saying with this new hair look.
[759] Like, what is he, what's the message he's trying to convey to us?
[760] Brat Summer.
[761] He was asked yesterday.
[762] He does look like Ken there.
[763] Oh, who's going to the Barbie game today?
[764] Baseball.
[765] There's a Barbie game.
[766] He looks like Cody Rhodes.
[767] It looks really cool.
[768] He does, right?
[769] Tier 2 guy.
[770] Yeah, I really want it.
[771] Billy, are you going to the Barbie game?
[772] No. That's why you're a tier one guy.
[773] They're also having a Swifty DJ after one of the games in, I think a week or so.
[774] They're having a Taylor Swift themed post -game celebration.
[775] like that she like performs little concerts and she just looks just like taylor and plays all the songs very weird just kind of want to do that for a moss my i'm on an algo i mean knows about my algos but i'm on an impression impressionist algo right now there is like a really good fake m &m out there across the pond i essentially just want to for the next moss miami hire a bunch of fake pop stars can we get fake drake i want to get fake he's around here somewhere he's amazing Sub 500 seasons it's been lonely Now the best player is on our side Been losing and losing for much too long But now we're back with New York Pride Stugats Jalen You've got us on our feet Jalen We're going to win the East Jalen Without Randall we're still doing fine.
[776] This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.
[777] As we mentioned, college football is here.
[778] College game day is here.
[779] Your Saturday traditions are back.
[780] Super excited.
[781] Great sports weekend.
[782] Huge sports weekend.
[783] Motorsports too.
[784] We get Daytona under the lights.
[785] But Seamus, I believe, has been announced.
[786] The WWE star has been announced as the special Game Day picker.
[787] He's from Myrland, Game Days in Dublin makes perfect sense, especially with McAfee over there.
[788] But we always kind of theorize who would make you, you mentioned AJ and Big Justice, they'd be great for Game Day.
[789] Guys, they would, like, I'm as big a fan of them as anyone that they don't fit.
[790] They don't fit.
[791] Wow.
[792] How do they not fit?
[793] They're perfect.
[794] When have they ever just done the internet person?
[795] They put Stugats on the show.
[796] Stugats was like the fourth guy in the depth chart because the rock canceled and then.
[797] Like, Dan can't They're here at UM, guys.
[798] That was a break glass in an emergency, okay?
[799] Everyone keeps holding up Stugats.
[800] I'm just like...
[801] That's the standard.
[802] They don't go for like internet joke of the way.
[803] They're going for like A -list celebrities.
[804] Man, do you remember when Mark Harmon was on there?
[805] It was just painfully awkward.
[806] Mark Harmon was probably the worst celebrity that they ever had.
[807] But Jeremy's put together, he's curated the list of people that he anticipates might be in the mix for game day picker of the week.
[808] Yeah, this is a combo of either people.
[809] that I would like to see and or people that I think make sense given what teams could have a college game day as well.
[810] So this really came up because of my number five here, a player who just recently retired, who could end up being a really good TV personality.
[811] Number five, Joey Votto.
[812] He's Canadian, though.
[813] What's a tie -in?
[814] Well, he played for the Cincinnati Reds.
[815] So anything in Ohio could end up being good.
[816] They could have him in Ohio State.
[817] They could have him at a Cincinnati Bearcats game there in the Big 12.
[818] You never know what could happen there.
[819] We neglected yesterday to inform the audience.
[820] You know, we said he's retiring.
[821] We didn't say, talk about the tweet he had, which is he tweeted about riding in the Uber on the way to the ballpark.
[822] And the guy, the driver asking him, are you a ball player?
[823] And Joey said, no. That's so great.
[824] It used to be.
[825] It used to be.
[826] You guys just ruined my number four, so I'll get to it, AJ and Big Justice.
[827] Great.
[828] I'll bet anyone $100 they don't.
[829] I'll take that.
[830] Number three, he's now doing country music, so it makes sense to do college game day.
[831] Post Malone.
[832] Post Malone.
[833] That one I can see.
[834] What if they're on college game day in another capacity?
[835] See, no, no, I can see.
[836] Like, Jelly Roll is absolutely going to be a game day picker, but he's also doing the song.
[837] I could see them incorporating AJ and Big Justice into game day somewhere.
[838] The bet is that they're going to be a guest picker.
[839] They're going to be on Saturdays at some point.
[840] Our bet is that they will not be the picker.
[841] They might be, if Miami is good this year.
[842] That's what I'm saying.
[843] Like, they could.
[844] If Miami gets a game.
[845] Our bet is picker.
[846] Picker.
[847] All right.
[848] Number two, former high school football coach, current vice presidential nominee for the Democrats, Tim Wals.
[849] They are not doing that.
[850] He will try to do it.
[851] Nope.
[852] Republicans watch Game Day 2.
[853] And number one.
[854] Maybe they'll have Waltz and Vance.
[855] Maybe Vance and Waltz together.
[856] They have to offer the same amount of time.
[857] They'll offer it.
[858] I'm just letting you know.
[859] Number one, if and when Georgia hosts a game, Anthony Edwards.
[860] That's definitely.
[861] That's good.
[862] Early on in the season before the NBA starts, Anthony Edwards is so good at TV, went to Georgia, feel like it's a good tie -in.
[863] Camp reports at the end of September, so he's got, what?
[864] That's a good one, first couple of weeks?
[865] I can see that one.
[866] Georgia, best thing in the country.
[867] Post Malone is the one I would, of all those, that's the fate.
[868] That's for sure going to happen.
[869] He's probably done it.
[870] He was the song last year.
[871] I'm so old that I thought, Anthony Edwards from E .R. He hasn't done anything in ages.